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Modern Economics: Natural or Social Science?

Economics is a natural science because natural science is about the study of objects rather than subjects. Labor, land, and money, the basic elements of economics, are all commodities of modern economics (objects of commerce), i.e. humans are reified (made into objects) thus losing any consideration as subjects.

“A market economy is an economic system controlled, regulated, and directed by market prices; order in the production and distribution of goods is entrusted to this self-regulating mechanism.”

Such a system contains the following assumptions:
1) Human behavior is such as to seek maximum money gains
2) The supply of goods and services are available based on demand at market prices
3) Money, functioning as buying power, is in the hands of prospective buyers
4) Nothing beyond prices must interfere with markets
5) All incomes are supplied through markets
6) Prices, supply, and demand respond only to market forces

Production and distribution will thus depend upon market prices alone. “Self-regulation implies that all production is for sale on the market and all incomes derive from such sales.”

Under feudalism and the guild system land and labor formed a part of the social organization: the status and function of land were determined by legal and provincial rules, all questions about land were removed from any organized market of buying and selling and subjected to various institutional regulations; the same was true regarding matters of labor, the relations between journeymen and apprentice, the terms of craft, and the wages were regulated by the custom and rule of the guild and the town.

“The self-regulating market demands nothing less than the institutional separation of society into an economic and a political sphere…It might be argued that the separateness of the two spheres obtains in every type of society at all times. Such an inference, however, would be based on a fallacy…normally, the economic order is merely a function of the social order…Nineteenth-century society, in which economic activity was isolated and imputed to a distinctive economic motive, was a singular departure.”

A self-regulating market cannot exist unless society is subordinated to its requirements; a market economy can exist only in a market society.

Quotes from The Great Transformation: The Political and Economic Origins of Our Time by Karl Polanyi




Rick
The assumption that government regulation is unnecessary is a falacy. For example, some extremists say that an institution such as the Food and Drug Administration is unnecessary because the market will see that food and drug adulterers will fail in the market. Such a scheme actually requires that consumers die in order to get bad companies to fail and go out of business in a free market. Such a system is an absurdity.
Hey Hey
QUOTE(Rick @ Jul 01, 2010, 11:44 PM) *

The assumption that government regulation is unnecessary is a falacy. For example, some extremists say that an institution such as the Food and Drug Administration is unnecessary because the market will see that food and drug adulterers will fail in the market. Such a scheme actually requires that consumers die in order to get bad companies to fail and go out of business in a free market. Such a system is an absurdity.
Survival of the fittest always rules. Take it how you will.
free thinker
"The assumption that government regulation is unnecessary is a falacy. For example, some extremists say that an institution such as the Food and Drug Administration is unnecessary because the market will see that food and drug adulterers will fail in the market. Such a scheme actually requires that consumers die in order to get bad companies to fail and go out of business in a free market. Such a system is an absurdity."

Thats true, although your know making an assumption that the people who supervise the regulation of safety checks in those bad companies are moral and ethical as well Unfortunately with everyone in America getting sick because of the absurdly poor sanitation of these companies distribution systems we might need a new change as to how we appoint these people. Especially in such a position so crucial to our physical well being.


"Survival of the fittest always rules. Take it how you will."

Wow your not seriously considering Social Darwinism...

Im sure that making you feel "evolved" is so important to your ego that you completely disregard how F**KING vain and stupid of an idea like "Social Darwinism" really is. If your interested on how "modern" social darwinism plays out, look up "Eugenics" and wake up to how seriously wrong it is.

In my opinion, I think darwin had no place to compare the evolutionary aspects of animals to the social aspects of humans. He only observed nature and had no previous credentials to any form of social psychology. Unfortunately those with great wealth have historically abused this idea to allow them to continue exploiting humanity for greater wealth with little to no guilt at all (Sweatshops) because social darwinism permits them to do so. The social hierarchy and egotistical aspects of society are indeed too complex and diverse to compare to the primarily instinctual evolution of animals with no expanded consciousness and ability to socialize critically.
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