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Joesus
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Brooke said Einstein believed "there is some kind of intelligence working its way through nature. But it is certainly not a conventional Christian or Judaic religious view."

That would be relevant to the spiritual superstitions of a jealous and judgmental God or the idealization of God in any form.
Conventional religious views are somewhat egotistic.
Lindsay
QUOTE(Trip like I do @ May 14, 2008, 05:59 PM) *

About Einstein's view of religion: From what I have heard and read he was not a follower of any doctrinaire religion. He had little time for what I call the bunk uttered by certain religionists--the ones who speak of God as if he is a three-dimensional and human-like being.

THE IMPORTANCE OF IMAGINATION
Those who have studied the lives of great thinkers say that it seems that in order to be great it is not enough just to be smart. For example, Einstein's attitude was one of reverence and awe.

Einstein's religion? "He was religious, and definitely not an atheist." says a recent biographer, Walter Isaacson. It was expressed by the way he lived his daily life and the awe he felt as he explored the nature of the atom and the universe. In his search for knowledge he greatly admired and valued the human imagination, which he said was more important than knowledge.

I wonder if he was aware of the work of A.N. Whitehead and development of process philosophy and theology? IMO, Einstein was more of a panENtheist/unitheist--GOD in and through all that IS--as was Whitehead.

At http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24579466#24579466
view a video of Einstein on NBC. "May 12: Walter Isaacson, author of "Albert Einstein: His Life and Universe," takes Mika Brzezinski and Chris Matthews inside the mind of the genius who was able to combine intelligence and creativity."
Lindsay
This just in:

One of my atheist friends at ScienceAgogo writes
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I attended a talk by Stuart Kauffman two nights ago.
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/kauffman06...an06_index.html

He talked about some of his ideas from his new book "Reinventing the Sacred."
More information about him here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Kauffman

He was on the dissertation committee for a friend and colleague who introduced me to him.

Pretty interesting talk. Not sure I buy into the whole idea. He's an atheist, to be sure, but he has a conception of God, or something we can call God. God is not "the creator," but the "creativity" in the universe.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum/ubbthrea...26076#Post26076

I responded
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TFF, thanks for telling us about Stuart Kauffman (Reinventing the Sacred) and about his, "conception of God, or something we can call God. God is not "the creator," but the "creativity" in the universe."

Based on my reading of Alfred North Whitehead's Process Theology in the 1970's--introduced to me by my assistant--I have been preaching and teaching about this creativity which I believe is going on, in through and around us, all the time. This is what led me to concoct the acronym, GØD and to call myself a unitheist http://www.unitheism.org It got me away from thinking about a God, out there--a creator separate and apart from the process going on all the time.

Here is what is important to me now: What is the practical value of being aware of this "Creativity"--GØD?


Sam, a fellow Process Thinker added:
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"This emerging view finds a natural scientific place for value and ethics, and places us as co-creators of the enormous web of emerging complexity that is the evolving biosphere and human economics and culture."

...a quote worthy of Whitehead's Metaphysics certainly (if not plagerized -LOL).
Process philosophy, concresence, prehension....

Emphasis on Creativity (the process) ...and us as "co-creators."

I love his direction; to apply this to "the evolving biosphere and human economics and culture."

Cool stuff.... Thanks!
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