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Lindsay
Using the article in Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernetics
this thread is an attempt to bring together the pros and cons we have been discussing under the general topics, philosophy, theology and critique--positive and negative--of world religions.

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Cybernetics is the study of feedback and derived concepts such as communication and control in living organisms, machines and organisations. For example, in sociotechnical systems, it includes the study of computer controlled machines such as automata and robots.

The term cybernetics stems from the Greek Κυβερνήτης (kybernetes, steersman, governor, pilot, or rudder — the same root as government). It is an earlier but still-used generic term for many of the subject matters that are increasingly subject to specialization under the headings of adaptive systems, artificial intelligence, complex systems, complexity theory, control systems, decision support systems, dynamical systems, information theory, learning organizations, mathematical systems theory, operations research, simulation, and systems engineering.

CYBERNETICS AND PHILOSOPHY
A more philosophical definition, suggested in 1956 by Louis Couffignal, one of the pioneers of cybernetics, characterizes cybernetics as "the art of ensuring the efficacy of action".


IMO, it could l be valuable to keep some of the other threads active and refer to them as we discuss
particular matters. For example, what we eat does affect how we think and how we feel. But which comes first? The food, or the thought? Is there an over-all guiding principle to which we can all relate?
Lindsay
This brings us to SOCIOCYBERNETICS--the good, the bad, and the whatever:
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Sociocybernetics is an independent chapter of science in sociology based upon the General Systems Theory and Cybernetics. It also has a basis in Organizational Development (OD) consultancy practice and in Theories of Communication, theories of psychotherapies and computer sciences. The International Sociological Association has a specialist research committee in the area – RC51 – which publishes the (electronic) Journal of Sociocybernetics www.unizar.es/sociocybernetics.

The term "socio" in the name of sociocybernetics refers to any system that consists of subsystems of interacting partners. Therefore atoms, or subatomic particles are sociocybernetic entities as well as galaxes, ecological systems (e.g. forest) or human groups and societies, industrial products, and stock market indexes. The basic goal, why sociocybernetics was created, is to produce a theoretical framework as well as information technology tools for responding to the basic challenges individuals, couples, families, groups, companies, organizations, countries, international affairs are facing today: giving software and database solutions of problems mostly coming from the competitive nature of human relationships.


Sociocybernetics analyzes social 'forces', including belief systems.
maximus242
Psycho-Cybernetics is a wonderful look into intertwining Psychology with Cybernetic theorum, buy it if you get the chance.
Lindsay
PSYCHO-CYBERNETICS--A New Way to GET MORE LIVING OUT OF LIFE, by Maxwell Maltz, M.D., F.I.C.S. (plastic surgeon) was first published in 1960 by Prentice-Hall. The pocket book edition was published in 1969. In the early 1970's, I had the opportunity to meet and chat with Dr. Maltz when he visited and gave lecture in Toronto. I was impressed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Maltz (1899-1976)
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And here is some more wonderful stuff:
http://www.psycho-cybernetics.com/maltz.html
http://www.psycho-cybernetics.com/zrlcourse.html
http://www.psycho-cybernetics.com/index.html
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Without any kind of cash charge--not to be confused with barter--I am prepared to spend some time...
Well, only if there is some interest ... We can talk about what is involved, later.

IMHO, this is the kind of dynamic concept which needs to be made available to anyone who is interested in taking the time to learn it. It ought to be made available as public knowledge.

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