Calm is the mind
Serene is the world
Vast are the space
Eternal is the time
Love is the sense
Truth is the life
Heaven is made,
Here in the mind
If this is the way,
ever life is.
Should there be,
a need for god?
Full Version: Heaven is made
when typhoons strike the mind
when the world say insane words
when love tricks disasters
when heavens fall
God the almighty
takes the stage
omniscient,omnipotent
HE TAKES US TO HEART
AND CONSOLES FOR LONG
regards
urs
Supani123@yahoo.com
when the world say insane words
when love tricks disasters
when heavens fall
God the almighty
takes the stage
omniscient,omnipotent
HE TAKES US TO HEART
AND CONSOLES FOR LONG
regards
urs
Supani123@yahoo.com
Incredible. Your poem resonates my own spiritual philosophy. I sort of believe that the Holy Spirit does in fact reside in us. What we do, what we create, is fundamentally our own choice, so we have the almighty power to change, uh, things.
There are only three types of spiritual philosopies.
1) There is God and There is Me. God helps me whenever he feels like.
2) There is God and There is Me. One day I will reach(merge with) God.
3) There is God and That is Me (alternately, There is ME and That is God.)
And the incredible part is that all of them are true. It just depends on what one believes in.
1) There is God and There is Me. God helps me whenever he feels like.
2) There is God and There is Me. One day I will reach(merge with) God.
3) There is God and That is Me (alternately, There is ME and That is God.)
And the incredible part is that all of them are true. It just depends on what one believes in.
How can anything be true if it is only based on belief?
Good poetry, and thought provoking!
If you think back to the time when most people believed the earth was flat, those who believed it was not flat, but 'spherical' believed in the Truth until it was proved by someone.
So, a belief can be a Truth!
However, Rajesh does not consider the possibility that God does not exist.
Since it is not possible to prove Gods' existence or otherwise, all statements about God are beliefs which may be true or false or somewhere in between.
Some people 'know' that God exists and have no requirement to prove it.
I believe that God does exist, but only as a concept in the minds of humans. I also believe that no human will ever be God. I believe we each have a tremendous responsibility to behave well for the good of ourselves, but not at the expense of everybody else or everything else provided by Nature, (whatever that is).
I also believe that we should be more considerate of those who are less able to contribute to Society (excluding those who choose to be so, when they know better).
If you think back to the time when most people believed the earth was flat, those who believed it was not flat, but 'spherical' believed in the Truth until it was proved by someone.
So, a belief can be a Truth!
However, Rajesh does not consider the possibility that God does not exist.
Since it is not possible to prove Gods' existence or otherwise, all statements about God are beliefs which may be true or false or somewhere in between.
Some people 'know' that God exists and have no requirement to prove it.
I believe that God does exist, but only as a concept in the minds of humans. I also believe that no human will ever be God. I believe we each have a tremendous responsibility to behave well for the good of ourselves, but not at the expense of everybody else or everything else provided by Nature, (whatever that is).
I also believe that we should be more considerate of those who are less able to contribute to Society (excluding those who choose to be so, when they know better).
rhymer
But those that believed the world was flat were wrong. So how can a belief be the truth? There are thousands of other examples of this type but I hope you get the point.
I did not mention the issue of the existence of God or criticise the belief in God. I was merely pointing out that belief in something does not make it true.
Being considerate does not have to include accepting misconceptions or misinterpretations. Pointing them out and educating is being more considerate. For example, by spending the time to do so.
Notice my care in capitalisation of God, in respect of the beliefs of others. This was not the case in the poem. The poem is presented here in the critique board with the implication that it will generate opinions. It is a nice poem.
But those that believed the world was flat were wrong. So how can a belief be the truth? There are thousands of other examples of this type but I hope you get the point.
I did not mention the issue of the existence of God or criticise the belief in God. I was merely pointing out that belief in something does not make it true.
Being considerate does not have to include accepting misconceptions or misinterpretations. Pointing them out and educating is being more considerate. For example, by spending the time to do so.
Notice my care in capitalisation of God, in respect of the beliefs of others. This was not the case in the poem. The poem is presented here in the critique board with the implication that it will generate opinions. It is a nice poem.
Hello Hey Hey,
As you say those who believed it was flat were wrong, ie., that belief was based on falsity.
But as I said in my post, "those who believed it was not flat, but 'spherical' believed in the Truth until it was proved by someone." What they believed in was a Truth!!
Forgive me if you thought I was criticising your words, other than to point out that abelief can be a truth. Having started thinking about beliefs I wandered off in 'thinking' mode, expressing some of my basic thoughts rather than commenting on your post.
And I agree with your choice to respect those with Faith and their beliefs - they may after all be right so to do.
namaste, friend
As you say those who believed it was flat were wrong, ie., that belief was based on falsity.
But as I said in my post, "those who believed it was not flat, but 'spherical' believed in the Truth until it was proved by someone." What they believed in was a Truth!!
Forgive me if you thought I was criticising your words, other than to point out that abelief can be a truth. Having started thinking about beliefs I wandered off in 'thinking' mode, expressing some of my basic thoughts rather than commenting on your post.
And I agree with your choice to respect those with Faith and their beliefs - they may after all be right so to do.
namaste, friend
But they did not know it was true at the time they simply believed. They only knew it was true when empirical evidence was available. You cannot know it is true without evidence, you can only assume it is, or hope it is. Of course there is a view that spiritual belief requires no proof. I, however, look forward to a time when there could be proof that God exists and will not simply accept belief as enough.
Let's sidetrack this discussion now and get back to Peace on Earth, dear rhymer. In the end, you and I, wish only the best for our fellow humans and our fellow poets.
Let's sidetrack this discussion now and get back to Peace on Earth, dear rhymer. In the end, you and I, wish only the best for our fellow humans and our fellow poets.
HO HO Hey Hey,
Agreed - Peace to all.
May all obtain a piece of Peace apiece, and retain it as it grows into a full-blown experience. I appreciate the peace I have been lucky enough to live in during my lifetime and sincerely wish it for all peace lovers.
Agreed - Peace to all.
May all obtain a piece of Peace apiece, and retain it as it grows into a full-blown experience. I appreciate the peace I have been lucky enough to live in during my lifetime and sincerely wish it for all peace lovers.
| QUOTE (Hey Hey @ Dec 18, 09:25 AM) |
| rhymer Notice my care in capitalisation of God, in respect of the beliefs of others. This was not the case in the poem. The poem is presented here in the critique board with the implication that it will generate opinions. It is a nice poem. |
This is my personal convention
God - God that exists
god - god that exists as a concept in mind or god that is conceived by mind.
(Similar to the convention, perceived-'self' and the real-'Self')
There is no way for the mind to know God, it can only know god.
| QUOTE (Rajesh @ Dec 17, 08:24 AM) |
| There are only three types of spiritual philosopies. 1) There is God and There is Me. God helps me whenever he feels like. 2) There is God and There is Me. One day I will reach(merge with) God. 3) There is God and That is Me (alternately, There is ME and That is God.) And the incredible part is that all of them are true. It just depends on what one believes in. |
All the above three statements say "There is God". What is changing in every line is one's belief about himself, and there is no change in God. It is just what you see as yourself.
| QUOTE (Hey Hey @ Dec 18, 08:52 AM) |
| How can anything be true if it is only based on belief? |
If someone blindly believes in something then it cannot be true. I am not talking about blind belief.
If someone is saying that earth is flat, he is not believing it, he is seeing it that way. From his perspective he is correct. It is true in a limited sense.
If somebody else is saying that the earth is sphere, he too is correct from his perspective.
Only their perspectives are different.
How to handle this difference in perspective is a different issue altogether.
| QUOTE (Hey Hey @ Dec 18, 12:47 PM) |
| Of course there is a view that spiritual belief requires no proof. I, however, look forward to a time when there could be proof that God exists and will not simply accept belief as enough. |
There is a difference between the equation E=MC2
and the spiritualists claim that the Matter is just Energy.
Though both of them mean the same thing, the first is understood through an objective perspective and second is one understood through the subjective perspective.
In Objective science anyone can find the truth and share it with others.
In Subjective science one has to observe for himself to know the truth.there is no way to share (intellectually).
Once again, when I say belief, I donot mean blind belief.
I mean what one sees for himself... what one observes...
Beautiful poetry and definitely an interesting thought to pursue.
Depicts the clarity and conviction of yours with your beliefs.
write more...
- ilimow
Depicts the clarity and conviction of yours with your beliefs.
write more...
- ilimow
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