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Trip like I do
What are they and how can I make/take one?

Are they macrocosmic or microcosmic or both?
Dan
'quantum jumps' refers to discrete shifts in energy at small scales; i.e., the electronic states of an atom or molecule. The electron can only occupy a finite number of available states, and 'quantum jumps' from one to the next when absorbing or emitting the appropriate energy quantity.
Trip like I do
What about at the macrocosmic level?

Jumps between dimensions/worlds/realities?
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How do these jumps occur at this level?

Outside the box? Make the jump?
Dan
QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 06:15 PM)
What about at the macrocosmic level?

Jumps between dimensions/worlds/realities?

who says such things/actions exist?
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You believe that they do not?
Dan
there's no evidence that they do
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Shouldn't occurances at microcosmic levels be repeated at macrocosmic levels?
Dan
why?
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WHY?
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As above, So below? The dictum of RTB via Hermes.
Dan
yeah, why? Why should occurrances at the microscopic levels be repeated at macroscopic levels?
Dan
QUOTE
As above, So below? The dictum of RTB via Hermes.


voodoo explanations don't cut it in science, sorry
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Your the scientist I'm the artist.

String Theory? Quantum loop theory?

Eleven-dimensional universes and all.

How does one make the jump between these dimensions?
Dan
that's just fancy speculation, made by career theorists who need to produce
Dan
evidence is the key, and so far there isn't any evidence that string theory or quantum loop theory is necessarily true. It is basically inventing mechanisms that could do what the unseen mechanisms are doing. We still haven't seen the unseen mechanisms, so the invention is nothing more than speculation
Trip like I do
Quite convincing speculation at that!

Have you read any Brian Greene?
Dan
evidence is convincing, speculation is interesting

green's just a popularizer of his field
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Can quantum jumps be made psychologically where thougts are made and processed at the speed of light?
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What is Quantum consciousness?
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QUOTE (Dan @ Nov 25, 06:56 PM)
evidence is convincing, speculation is interesting

green's just a popularizer of his field

What is your field in the realm of science?
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If speculation is interesting then RTB should be one of the most interesting guys that you've met?
Dan
QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 07:11 PM)
If speculation is interesting then RTB should be one of the most interesting guys that you've met?

he misrepresents his speculation as fact
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What is your field in the realm of science?
Dan
physics generally and atmospheric electricity specifically
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Atmospheric electricity eh? Sounds interesting. Finding, researching, or creating?
Dan
research, of course. this involves creating apparatuses to find the patterns
RobertBruceBaird
Dan wouldn't know a fact if it bit him during his night tremors or LSD trips.
Dan
a few more of those, and we might be even wink.gif
Trip like I do
QUOTE (Dan @ Nov 25, 07:49 PM)
research, of course. this involves creating apparatuses to find the patterns

What kind of patterns have you found?
Dan
I am working on the problem of lightning initiation, which amazingly remains unsolved
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Theoretically speaking - could there be some sort of similarity/connection between lightning initiation and the Big Bang?
Dan
they are both physical events
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That seemingly arise out of nowhere, no?
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I heard a U.S. politician talking about 'Quantum jumps and quantum leaps of thought' a couple nights ago.
Dan
QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 08:11 PM)
I heard a U.S. politician talking about 'Quantum jumps and quantum leaps of thought' a couple nights ago.

he's just making analogies. The common feature being a sudden shift from one distinct state to another
Trip like I do
macrocosmically or microcosmically or somewhere in between?
Dan
the feature of interest is 'sudden shift from one distinct state to another'. Any process which exhibits such a feature may be said to be a member of a class of processes that exhibit this feature.
Trip like I do
Sudden? Instantaneous? At the speed of light?

Class of processes that exhibit this feature? Members?

Please enlighten further.
Dan
QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 09:10 PM)
Sudden? Instantaneous? At the speed of light?

when the time scale of the transition is very small compared to the time scale of the ordinary states.
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Minutely minute?
Dan
something like that
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Wave Theory - The grand unified theory of everything.
Dan
huh?
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Duh!
Dan
okeydokey
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smokie?
rhymer
Dan,
I thought lightning was initiated by charged clouds reaching approx. 30k per cm and breaking down the air between those potential sources. This is based on my science learning from 55 years ago!
Has the info moved on?
Dan
observations of e-fields show that the fields are usually less than 1.5kV/cm. The trick is that there can be intermediate discharge processes that can occur in such weak fields such as cosmic ray-initiated runaway breakdown and positive streamer discharges from hydrometeor extremities.
rhymer
Thanks for that- such low voltages surprise me.
It's no wonder I used to get belts when repairing tele's, even after discharging tubes!!!
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