Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 05:45 PM
What are they and how can I make/take one?
Are they macrocosmic or microcosmic or both?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:11 PM
'quantum jumps' refers to discrete shifts in energy at small scales; i.e., the electronic states of an atom or molecule. The electron can only occupy a finite number of available states, and 'quantum jumps' from one to the next when absorbing or emitting the appropriate energy quantity.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:15 PM
What about at the macrocosmic level?
Jumps between dimensions/worlds/realities?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:17 PM
How do these jumps occur at this level?
Outside the box? Make the jump?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:23 PM
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 06:15 PM) |
What about at the macrocosmic level?
Jumps between dimensions/worlds/realities? |
who says such things/actions exist?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:27 PM
You believe that they do not?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:35 PM
there's no evidence that they do
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:37 PM
Shouldn't occurances at microcosmic levels be repeated at macrocosmic levels?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:38 PM
why?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:41 PM
WHY?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:42 PM
As above, So below? The dictum of RTB via Hermes.
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:42 PM
yeah, why? Why should occurrances at the microscopic levels be repeated at macroscopic levels?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:42 PM
| QUOTE |
| As above, So below? The dictum of RTB via Hermes. |
voodoo explanations don't cut it in science, sorry
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:46 PM
Your the scientist I'm the artist.
String Theory? Quantum loop theory?
Eleven-dimensional universes and all.
How does one make the jump between these dimensions?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:47 PM
that's just fancy speculation, made by career theorists who need to produce
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:50 PM
evidence is the key, and so far there isn't any evidence that string theory or quantum loop theory is necessarily true. It is basically inventing mechanisms that could do what the unseen mechanisms are doing. We still haven't seen the unseen mechanisms, so the invention is nothing more than speculation
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:53 PM
Quite convincing speculation at that!
Have you read any Brian Greene?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 06:56 PM
evidence is convincing, speculation is interesting
green's just a popularizer of his field
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 06:59 PM
Can quantum jumps be made psychologically where thougts are made and processed at the speed of light?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 07:09 PM
What is Quantum consciousness?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 07:10 PM
| QUOTE (Dan @ Nov 25, 06:56 PM) |
evidence is convincing, speculation is interesting
green's just a popularizer of his field |
What is your field in the realm of science?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 07:11 PM
If speculation is interesting then RTB should be one of the most interesting guys that you've met?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 07:28 PM
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 07:11 PM) |
| If speculation is interesting then RTB should be one of the most interesting guys that you've met? |
he misrepresents his speculation as fact
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 07:34 PM
What is your field in the realm of science?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 07:37 PM
physics generally and atmospheric electricity specifically
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 07:41 PM
Atmospheric electricity eh? Sounds interesting. Finding, researching, or creating?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 07:49 PM
research, of course. this involves creating apparatuses to find the patterns
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 07:55 PM
Dan wouldn't know a fact if it bit him during his night tremors or LSD trips.
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 07:58 PM
a few more of those, and we might be even
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 07:58 PM
| QUOTE (Dan @ Nov 25, 07:49 PM) |
| research, of course. this involves creating apparatuses to find the patterns |
What kind of patterns have you found?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 07:59 PM
I am working on the problem of lightning initiation, which amazingly remains unsolved
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 08:01 PM
Theoretically speaking - could there be some sort of similarity/connection between lightning initiation and the Big Bang?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 08:03 PM
they are both physical events
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 08:07 PM
That seemingly arise out of nowhere, no?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 08:11 PM
I heard a U.S. politician talking about 'Quantum jumps and quantum leaps of thought' a couple nights ago.
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 08:56 PM
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 08:11 PM) |
| I heard a U.S. politician talking about 'Quantum jumps and quantum leaps of thought' a couple nights ago. |
he's just making analogies. The common feature being a sudden shift from one distinct state to another
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 08:59 PM
macrocosmically or microcosmically or somewhere in between?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 09:02 PM
the feature of interest is 'sudden shift from one distinct state to another'. Any process which exhibits such a feature may be said to be a member of a class of processes that exhibit this feature.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:10 PM
Sudden? Instantaneous? At the speed of light?
Class of processes that exhibit this feature? Members?
Please enlighten further.
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 09:13 PM
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 09:10 PM) |
| Sudden? Instantaneous? At the speed of light? |
when the time scale of the transition is very small compared to the time scale of the ordinary states.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 10:04 PM
Minutely minute?
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 10:05 PM
something like that
Trip like I do
Nov 26, 2004, 02:28 PM
Wave Theory - The grand unified theory of everything.
Dan
Nov 26, 2004, 04:11 PM
huh?
Trip like I do
Nov 26, 2004, 04:26 PM
Duh!
Dan
Nov 26, 2004, 04:27 PM
okeydokey
Trip like I do
Nov 26, 2004, 04:30 PM
smokie?
rhymer
Nov 26, 2004, 04:40 PM
Dan,
I thought lightning was initiated by charged clouds reaching approx. 30k per cm and breaking down the air between those potential sources. This is based on my science learning from 55 years ago!
Has the info moved on?
Dan
Nov 26, 2004, 04:59 PM
observations of e-fields show that the fields are usually less than 1.5kV/cm. The trick is that there can be intermediate discharge processes that can occur in such weak fields such as cosmic ray-initiated runaway breakdown and positive streamer discharges from hydrometeor extremities.
rhymer
Nov 27, 2004, 04:03 PM
Thanks for that- such low voltages surprise me.
It's no wonder I used to get belts when repairing tele's, even after discharging tubes!!!
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