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Trip like I do
This poll is aimed at bringing RTB and his 'ramblings' back, for those of us who do attempt to communicate with him.

Shawn
RTB is welcome to post so long as he does not engage in abuse. Contrary to appearances, the 'Realm of the Ridiculous' was not targeted at RTB in any way; I impartially went through all threads in the Mind & Consciousness forum and moved those to the Realm of the Ridiculous if they didn't belong on the boards they were posted on or any other available boards for reasons given in the opening post that started the board. Standards should be enforced to ensure the quality of the boards. Many of RTB's posts are good and thought-provoking. Also, note that RTB threads comprise less than 40% of the total threads on the 'Realm of the Ridiculous', which may be due entirely to his large number of posts. RTB is welcome to post here as and when he pleases so long as he does not engage in abuse. Yes, some of his opponents have intentionally or unintentionally brought ruin to some of his threads, but maybe that is due to not enough moderating on these boards. I am not referring to critical comments directed towards RTB's posts since it's good to be critical of many of RTB's posts, but rather unwarranted or irrelevant mud-slinging, or mud-slinging that was otherwise provoked by RTB's name-calling or belittling. I am not pointing any fingers; All I'm saying is that having standards enforced should begin addressing these issues.
Soma
I have drifted in and out of here over the past 2 years ( paradox / ajarnsoma ) and have enjoyed the banter, information, knowledge and at times the pedantic people. Those opposed to RTB can do two things, stand up and be counted when you disagree, and also try and think before hitting that "post" button.

Shawn
I have modified my above post because I was reminded of the many cases in which RTB provoked others through his name-calling or blowing people off when they responded critically to his posts or requested that he backed up what he posted. I do not think that such reactions to people's earnest requests for proof or clarification are just cause for belittling or blowing them off. So if many people have attacked RTB, then RTB should realize that he has been the cause in many cases and seek to avoid future conflict by his better use of interpersonal skills, compassion, and understanding. So long as he does this, then he is free to post and expect worthwhile and rewarding discussion from others; otherwise, no doubt the attacks will continue and his threads will be bumped into the Realm of the Ridiculous.
Trip like I do
Yes, I believe interpersonal skills is the key. From what I understand of RTB's daily environment in the group home his reactions may seem acceptable to him because he is probably under constant barrage of similar interpersonal dialouge and it seems some may have spilled over into his computer persona and how he conducted dialouges. Mimic, regurgitate and get it out of your system.

RobertBruceBaird
Dear Shawn

If you were to have read the posts you would inevitably find that I had created many threads with proof abundant for many months before it became obvious that you were not interested in fair dialogue or you were away and leaving others to allow the unsubstantiated charges that I did not provide the very things you are saying I did not provide.

Needless to say you have your own opinions and you are entitled to them. I however, know the truth is on my side and I see others do as well.

Dear Trip

Yes, I do have to perform functions such as being the bouncer to protect the victims of society against the system and the criminals who the system allows to continue to victimize the poor unfortunates in my group home. However, I take special pride in knowing how to handle myself and I have no qualms about having blown off all those who were using ridicule and never addressing the facts or the opinions of the Nobel Laureates who agree with me.

You see it again with Shawn kowtowing and changing his post or opinion because he is another gutless paradigm minion or becoming part of that system that avoids the truth of the soulful sciences. Thus you can be assured it will be a frosty Friday before I attempt to enlighten the dark and un-holy minds that frequent this place.
Trip like I do
QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 05:04 PM)

You see it again with Shawn kowtowing and changing his post or opinion because he is another gutless paradigm minion or becoming part of that system that avoids the truth of the soulful sciences. Thus you can be assured it will be a frosty Friday before I attempt to enlighten the dark and un-holy minds that frequent this place.

As Shawn was addressing.

Are the soulful sciences the only truth?
Trip like I do
I vote Robert returns with his informative 'nonsense'.
Dan
he's not banned, dude
Dan
here's his problem

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe07.html
Trip like I do
No, but he seems to have banished himself. And that's sad because I enjoyed the occasional banter with Robert. I think maybe his ego has been harmed.
Trip like I do
We are all a bit narcissistic are we not? True, Robert's level of narcissistic feedback seems to be set at a higher level than most.
Dan
I'm sure he's done his share of harming
Trip like I do
tuche!
Trip like I do
Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
requires excessive admiration

has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


Can anyone have these symptoms without being classified as a narcissistic?
Unknown
QUOTE (Dan @ Nov 25, 06:18 PM)
here's his problem

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe07.html

besides narcissism, RTB could have Histrionic Personality Disorder, Antisocial Personality Disorder and/or Borderline Personality Disorder
RobertBruceBaird
Dear Dan

Doing the projection thingy again I see.

Actually if I needed attention I would still be here and showing you for the fool you are. As it is I have deigned the cretins here are not deserving of my attention. On the other hand you are an admitted sufferer of night tremors and this is the fear-oriented paranoia that is shown in your link herewith.

You are unable to argue except by ad hominems as we have been witness to for many months - and I will continue to drop by as you continue backing out of your committment to stop your slander and lies.

Dear Trip

You are sadly mistaken if you think my ego has been harmed. I have explained my reasons and they are explanations from an adept who knows himself full well.
Unknown
QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 06:19 PM)
I think maybe his ego has been harmed.

or maybe his big bubble burst?
Unknown
QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 06:22 PM)
We are all a bit narcissistic are we not? True, Robert's level of narcissistic feedback seems to be set at a higher level than most.

narcissism or insecurities? I'm inclined towards insecurities since true narcissism is usually secure in itself and does not feel the need to lash out without provocation. All of RTB's lashing out screams "hey look at me everyone, I'm insecure!".
RobertBruceBaird
Dear Chicken (Unknown)

Ah - the erudite words of wisdom that flow from your pen simply astound my sensibilities and I bow in honor of having shared what little (!) you have deigned to bless me with.
Unknown
QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 06:25 PM)
Can anyone have these symptoms without being classified as a narcissistic?

megalomaniacs are not usually narcissistic
Dan
QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 07:14 PM)
Dear Dan

... if I needed attention I would still be here ...

here you are!
Dan
QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 07:14 PM)
I will continue to drop by as you continue backing out of your committment to stop your slander and lies.

awesome, I was worried about things getting boring around here wink.gif
Unknown
QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 07:18 PM)
Dear Chicken (Unknown)

Ah - the erudite words of wisdom that flow from your pen simply astound my sensibilities and I bow in honor of having shared what little (!) you have deigned to bless me with.

you prove my point RTB. You're insecure which is why you feel the need to lash out. If you had true strength you would not feel the need to attack others unless for good reason and you would use such strength responsibly. However, you are very irresponsible in your dealings with others which is a sign of weakness. You are weak, RTB. If you had real strength you would be able to exhibit better self control and have better dealings with others without feeling the need to lash out every chance you get.
Unknown
RTB is not wise nor knowledgable enough to be aware of the vastness of his ignorance and delusion, for those who are show more respect towards others. Either that or he's just a misanthrope and doesn't care about interpersonal relations though his whole survival and manner of life is dependent on the work of countless others.
Trip like I do
RTB, ignore this sh*t and just post a thread worth delving into and we will monitor where, if any, the insults begin.
Trip like I do
Why do you hide behind the Unknown tag?
Unknown
because I'm unknown
Unknown
why do you hide behind your Trip like I do tag?
Trip like I do
I'm not Unknown. My name is Don Allain and I'm a struggling artist. The 'trip' tag is an artistic persona that I've created.
Unknown
why do you hide behind your Don Allain name? Why do you hide behind a human form? Does it make a difference if I say my name is Allen Domino and that I'm a corporate manager? Does that say anything about me or is it just a useful mask to wear?
Trip like I do
It provides a representation of what angle you view the world/reality from. I'm proud to be who I am. Are you not?
Dan
labels allow others to maintain a historical account of a voice, enabling the development of context through which to interpret new statements
Trip like I do
Exactly. Not stereotyping.
RobertBruceBaird
Dear Trip

No new posts from me - I only attend this place to correct any slanders against me from the sick and unfortunate close-minded liars who occasionally do that here.

I am freely and openly available in numerous sites that you can find by browsing for me under my name or looking at some of the posts in this site, as I have said.
Trip like I do
One more. Let's see where it leads?
RobertBruceBaird
QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 07:18 PM)
Dear Chicken (Unknown)

Ah - the erudite words of wisdom that flow from your pen simply astound my sensibilities and I bow in honor of having shared what little (!) you have deigned to bless me with.

you prove my point RTB. {No actually it proves where you are coming from. You attacked and I used sarcasm in response in a nice way.} You're insecure {No evidence of that is here.} which is why you feel the need to lash out. {Just responding in kind.} If you had true strength you would not feel the need to attack others unless for good reason {Ample has been provided} and you would use such strength responsibly. However, you are very irresponsible in your dealings with others which is a sign of weakness. You are weak {Projection from a coward unwilling to use their real name - HMMM.}, RTB. If you had real strength you would be able to exhibit better self control and have better dealings with others without feeling the need to lash out {Look at that mirror} every chance you get.




Unknown Posted: Nov 25, 07:30 PM Quote






RTB is not wise nor knowledgable enough to be aware of the vastness of his ignorance and delusion, for those who are show more respect towards others. Either that or he's just a misanthrope {A big word - do you know what it means and can you provide evidence for it applying to me?} and doesn't care about interpersonal relations though his whole survival and manner of life is dependent on the work of countless others. {A total fabfication of a fevered and cowardly person who has never achieved anything to compare with my works in many fields of endeavour.}

Trip like I do
Your absolutely right RTB. My question is why do YOU always have to point these facts out when anyone who knows knows?
Unknown
RTB, have you made any significant contributions to society? Publishing a few esoteric books that no-one has ever heard of nor read doesn't count.
Unknown
QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 08:05 PM)
Your absolutely right RTB. My question is why do YOU always have to point these facts out when anyone who knows knows?

because little men make big noise
Unknown
or more accurately, little men like to make a lot of noise in a futile attempt to compensate.
Trip like I do
? was directed at RTB, or are you a little man trying to make big noise?
Trip like I do
What is it that you are compensating for? Please project somemore.
Unknown
I have little incentive for making big noise since I'm unknown. I'm only pointing out the facts here.
Trip like I do
Do you feel that we here are unable to discern the facts for ourselves? Thank you for informing the uninformed.
Unknown
It's really quite simple: RTB is delusional. Read his posts. Read his replies to others. There is no other conclusion a rational person can reach. My own interpretation is that he's incredibly insecure about his achievements and feels worthless, so a part of his mind attempts to paint a pretty picture for his consciousness. His consciousness, all to eager to escape from his feelings of worthlessness and pettiness, readily accepts the delusion. In the end, it's a coping mechanism that RTB employs. He can't deal with reality so he fabricates fantasies and tries to live them out, though reality prevents him from living out his fantasy, and so he rationalizes the difficulties that reality presents to him by believing that everyone else is wrong and that he's somehow above everyone. It's really quite funny. I can't imagine RTB fares too well in real life which is probably why he spends so much time on the internet. He can't live out his fantasy in real life, so he tries to live it out online. Why else does he spend so much time online, not only in this forum but also in dozens of others? This RTB's life revolves around the internet fantasy he's created for himself. Reality was too much for him, so now he's trying to live out his delusion on the internet. You can't argue against it. The evidence is all online. Read his posts and his replies. The evidence is all there, and it's incontrovertible.
Trip like I do
And does it matter whether he is rational or irrational?
Trip like I do
Personally, I like RTB. I find him to be quite insightful and to be a breadth of knowledge, proven or not.
Unknown
my own opinion is that RTB's misinformation outweighs his correct information, and he's obnoxious and disrespectful to boot.
RobertBruceBaird
Dear Coward


You say:

It's really quite simple: RTB is delusional. Read his posts. Read his replies to others. There is no other conclusion a rational person can reach. My own interpretation is that he's incredibly insecure about his achievements and feels worthless, so a part of his mind attempts to paint a pretty picture for his consciousness. His consciousness, all to eager to escape from his feelings of worthlessness and pettiness, readily accepts the delusion. In the end, it's a coping mechanism that RTB employs. He can't deal with reality so he fabricates fantasies and tries to live them out, though reality prevents him from living out his fantasy, and so he rationalizes the difficulties that reality presents to him by believing that everyone else is wrong and that he's somehow above everyone. It's really quite funny. I can't imagine RTB fares too well in real life which is probably why he spends so much time on the internet. He can't live out his fantasy in real life, so he tries to live it out online. Why else does he spend so much time online, not only in this forum but also in dozens of others? This RTB's life revolves around the internet fantasy he's created for himself. Reality was too much for him, so now he's trying to live out his delusion on the internet. You can't argue against it. The evidence is all online. Read his posts and his replies. The evidence is all there, and it's incontrovertible.

I say:

I have explained my mission and circumstances in many places and it has been re-ieterated in small part here by Trip again today. But you probably are no more able to read than you are able to write - this stuff is utter raving.

You're projecting - check the clinical term or meaning of that word. You will find it under paranoid.
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