Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 08:51 PM
Everybody has opinions and you are entitled to yours.
I believe RTB is just an extremely pragmatic individual, a no non-sense individual.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 08:56 PM
I been gone for awhile but now Im back again. I've been discussing various insightful topics with Robert since I joined this site back in August and this whole mess arrived with the introduction of Enki and his word matrix thread. I can't fathom how you, RTB, cannot see how that specific thread was implimented and proven with you as the guinea pig.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 08:57 PM
A lot of his misinformation no doubt is ignorance, but I can't help thinking that some of it is also disinformation and involves the deliberate dissemination of false information. The fact that he rigidly maintains his correctness even in matters where he's been proven wrong suggest a falseness in him that should be of concern to anyone who bothers to read his posts. In similar situations, reasonable people will admit to being wrong or will plead ignorance or misunderstanding when presented with facts proving them wrong, but not RTB. This suggests a complete detachment from reality, a schism in his mind, and an inability to deal with reality.
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 08:57 PM
| QUOTE |
| this whole mess arrived with the introduction of Enki and his word matrix thread. I can't fathom how you, RTB, cannot see how that specific thread was implimented and proven with you as the guinea pig. |
I don't think it wasn't intentional, therefore (if I am right) the 'Enki' thread was not proven
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 08:58 PM
Coward says S/he/it has no incentive to lie because of the anonymity. Actually most people wear masks and are playing games in their lives and they get a real charge out of trying to appear big.
Then Coward says s/he/it is presenting facts.:
I have little incentive for making big noise since I'm unknown. I'm only pointing out the facts here.
But Coward has shown s/he/it has not even read where Trip expalined I live in a groups home (where I preform a function society should honor while refusing to be paid - and I was a millionaire more than once having built my own unique business). But I suspect Coward has not read any posts I made when I was in fact making posts to show something to the close-minded or some who might actually be interested in learning.
If Coward would bless us with an analysis of those posts (say Semiotics or The Thalami and Third Eye) then we might see how thoroughly wise and insightful Coward is. However, I will leave it to others to critique said comments unless Coward deviates from proper etiquette and makes further rude and unfounded remarks and I will only address those remarks.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 08:59 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 08:50 PM) |
| You're projecting |
I knew you'd say that, RTB. How lame. In other words, you're saying "I know you are but what am I?". Doh!
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:01 PM
| QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 25, 08:57 PM) |
| A lot of his misinformation no doubt is ignorance, but I can't help thinking that some of it is also disinformation and involves the deliberate dissemination of false information. The fact that he rigidly maintains his correctness even in matters where he's been proven wrong suggest a falseness in him that should be of concern to anyone who bothers to read his posts. In similar situations, reasonable people will admit to being wrong or will plead ignorance or misunderstanding when presented with facts proving them wrong, but not RTB. This suggests a complete detachment from reality, a schism in his mind, and an inability to deal with reality. |
Have you read any of his posts?
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:01 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 08:58 PM) |
| If Coward would bless us with an analysis of those posts (say Semiotics or The Thalami and Third Eye) |
critical analyses have already been made of said threads and what you posted there proven false. It's all there if you bother to read.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:03 PM
| QUOTE (Dan @ Nov 25, 08:57 PM) |
| QUOTE | | this whole mess arrived with the introduction of Enki and his word matrix thread. I can't fathom how you, RTB, cannot see how that specific thread was implimented and proven with you as the guinea pig. |
I don't think it wasn't intentional, therefore (if I am right) the 'Enki' thread was not proven
|
I believe it was done more on an unconscious level, sitting there perculating just under the surface.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:03 PM
RTB has no credentials yet claims to be expert in many fields. What are your credentials RTB? As I said above, being the author of a few unpopular vanity books that no-one reads nor hears about doesn't count.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:04 PM
He opened the gates after all, and RTB boldly or ignorantly walked through.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:04 PM
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 09:01 PM) |
| Have you read any of his posts? |
unfortunately, yes
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:05 PM
Dear Trip
You say:
I been gone for awhile but now Im back again. I've been discussing various insightful topics with Robert since I joined this site back in August and this whole mess arrived with the introduction of Enki and his word matrix thread. I can't fathom how you, RTB, cannot see how that specific thread was implimented and proven with you as the guinea pig.
I say:
I doubt you are being honsest or recalling that thread. Enki was onto something and I brought people like The Fetch to further that discussion in case Enki was in fact interested in learning. I provide the to people in the field of Semitiotics and even Lindsay attempted a few decent stabs at understanding it - and then we went on to Heidegger and Hegel and the nature of the programming that people like Dan are victims of and continue to foment upon the minds of our children or the future of society.
Enki then continued to lie and state his religious convictions that I was a pagan heretic worthy of the stake and other vile effluent with threats galore. You yourself were threatened by Enki. No moderator stepped in to protect anyone or make it possible for a decent discourse to occur as Enki hounded me across all threads making threats and uttering his fundamentalist dogma.
Enki is not the problem but he is a symptom of society that exposed the nature of the moderators on this site.
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 09:07 PM
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 09:03 PM) |
| I believe it was done more on an unconscious level, sitting there perculating just under the surface. |
I would say it was an accident. The feature that Enki was most interested in was how to cause such a result intentionally
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:08 PM
Dear Unknown Comic
Credentials are in the acts of people and not in the acceptance of those acts. I defer to your magnifence and I know you do not know what I have done, what I do, or anything about me. I also know you illustrate no understanding or offer any analysis but rather continue to act as a punk with nothing to back it up.
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 09:09 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:05 PM) |
| ... and the nature of the programming that people like Dan are victims of and continue to foment upon the minds of our children or the future of society... |
lol
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:11 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:05 PM) |
| Enki then continued to lie and state his religious convictions that I was a pagan heretic worthy of the stake |
a pagan heretic worthy of the stake? Hardly. More like he's a has-been and/or wannabe worthy of a good reality-check and maybe a visit with the good old psychoanalyst.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:11 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:08 PM) |
Dear Unknown Comic
Credentials are in the acts of people and not in the acceptance of those acts. I defer to your magnifence and I know you do not know what I have done, what I do, or anything about me. I also know you illustrate no understanding or offer any analysis but rather continue to act as a punk with nothing to back it up. |
ditto!
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:13 PM
| QUOTE (Dan @ Nov 25, 09:07 PM) |
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Nov 25, 09:03 PM) | | I believe it was done more on an unconscious level, sitting there perculating just under the surface. |
I would say it was an accident. The feature that Enki was most interested in was how to cause such a result intentionally
|
Or was he?
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:13 PM
in other words, RTB, you have no credentials. You are no expert in any field. Everything you've been telling us is a lie.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:16 PM
| QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 25, 09:11 PM) |
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:05 PM) | | Enki then continued to lie and state his religious convictions that I was a pagan heretic worthy of the stake |
a pagan heretic worthy of the stake? Hardly. More like he's a has-been and/or wannabe worthy of a good reality-check and maybe a visit with the good old psychoanalyst.
|
Thank you.
Enki is less deserving of tapping into this site than RTB and RTB has provided much more informative data than Enki ever has.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:16 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:08 PM) |
| I know you do not know what I have done |
if it was any worthwhile contribution to society I'd love to hear about it
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:16 PM
Dear Trip
You are obsessing or something. Again I say Enki is not the problem - he is a symptom that exposed the nature of the moderators here.
Enki was indeed trying to politic and sell his dogma in a unique way (he thought) but I exposed that thought line and demonstrated the fields of NLP and Semiotics, Gematria and other relevant things to his so-called unique designs. He even admitted he was not able to follow what the experts in the field said and at times indicated he very much liked the information. He suggested I was MI 6 and had many other wild theories to explain how I could possibly know so much. He had things about my father and a diary of a friend of Bacon's and many things too numerous to recount. You should read the stuff.
But all those things are not cause for me to do what I have done - again I say (imagine some capital letters here) he is a symptom and even a victim - he is not the problem or the cause! He is a lot like his mother or the Unknown who has followed me here from another site (I believe) where she has been reprimanded and demoted and then left - even her gang is turning on her there. Go to FortuneCookiePhilosophy and see the thread Curious.
Dan
Nov 25, 2004, 09:18 PM
Enki is more deserving of tapping into this site than RTB as RTB has provided much more disinformative data than Enki ever has.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:18 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:05 PM) |
Dear Trip
You say:
I been gone for awhile but now Im back again. I've been discussing various insightful topics with Robert since I joined this site back in August and this whole mess arrived with the introduction of Enki and his word matrix thread. I can't fathom how you, RTB, cannot see how that specific thread was implimented and proven with you as the guinea pig.
I say:
I doubt you are being honsest or recalling that thread. Enki was onto something and I brought people like The Fetch to further that discussion in case Enki was in fact interested in learning. I provide the to people in the field of Semitiotics and even Lindsay attempted a few decent stabs at understanding it - and then we went on to Heidegger and Hegel and the nature of the programming that people like Dan are victims of and continue to foment upon the minds of our children or the future of society.
Enki then continued to lie and state his religious convictions that I was a pagan heretic worthy of the stake and other vile effluent with threats galore. You yourself were threatened by Enki. No moderator stepped in to protect anyone or make it possible for a decent discourse to occur as Enki hounded me across all threads making threats and uttering his fundamentalist dogma.
Enki is not the problem but he is a symptom of society that exposed the nature of the moderators on this site. |
I never felt threatened. I looked at Enki as comical relief during some serious intellectual intercourse. Stenki little asian dwarf.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:19 PM
RTB likes to go around the internet selling snake oil to gullibles.
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:20 PM
Coward says:
QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:08 PM)
I know you do not know what I have done
if it was any worthwhile contribution to society I'd love to hear about it
Sorry - not going to respond to this - you can do your own research.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:22 PM
RTB, maybe your third eye can help you and you can use your pituitary thalami to astrally project an answer to my question about what your credentials are?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:25 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:16 PM) |
Dear Trip
You are obsessing or something. Again I say Enki is not the problem - he is a symptom that exposed the nature of the moderators here.
Enki was indeed trying to politic and sell his dogma in a unique way (he thought) but I exposed that thought line and demonstrated the fields of NLP and Semiotics, Gematria and other relevant things to his so-called unique designs. He even admitted he was not able to follow what the experts in the field said and at times indicated he very much liked the information. He suggested I was MI 6 and had many other wild theories to explain how I could possibly know so much. He had things about my father and a diary of a friend of Bacon's and many things too numerous to recount. You should read the stuff.
But all those things are not cause for me to do what I have done - again I say (imagine some capital letters here) he is a symptom and even a victim - he is not the problem or the cause! He is a lot like his mother or the Unknown who has followed me here from another site (I believe) where she has been reprimanded and demoted and then left - even her gang is turning on her there. Go to FortuneCookiePhilosophy and see the thread Curious. |
I am obsessing about you having left this site, but I see I've lured you back in, at least momentarilly. Mission accomplished. Now if I can only figure out a way to get you to post topics again. Hmmmmmmm. Let me count the ways.
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:25 PM
Dear Trip
You say:
I never felt threatened. I looked at Enki as comical relief during some serious intellectual intercourse. Stenki little asian dwarf.
I say:
Yes, he was a lot like his mother the unknown comic or coward. But are you saying he did not threaten you? Why did you respond with an offer to meet him and show what your martial arts training would prove?
And of course, I did not 'feel' threatened. I laughed at his energy and demons or whatever gods he said he would send to deal with me. But it was interesting that that very night I was offered a part in a TV Documentary that is being negotiated in England by the agent of Philip Gardiner whose work can be seen at gardinerosborn.com
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:25 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:20 PM) |
| Sorry - not going to respond to this |
You didn't need to since I already know that you have not made any worthwhile contributions to society. Just like I already know that you have no real credentials and are not an expert in any field.
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:27 PM
Dear Trip
You have not lured me back - you are encouraging the nonsense and people like Dan and the Unknown Coward to further slander and defame me - thus I have to defend myself because the moderators here are without morals or any modicum of decency.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:27 PM
| QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 25, 09:19 PM) |
| RTB likes to go around the internet selling snake oil to gullibles. |
Gullible I Yam, for that's what I am.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:28 PM
RTB is just a pedaler of disinformation.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:29 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:25 PM) |
Dear Trip
You say:
I never felt threatened. I looked at Enki as comical relief during some serious intellectual intercourse. Stenki little asian dwarf.
I say:
Yes, he was a lot like his mother the unknown comic or coward. But are you saying he did not threaten you? Why did you respond with an offer to meet him and show what your martial arts training would prove?
And of course, I did not 'feel' threatened. I laughed at his energy and demons or whatever gods he said he would send to deal with me. But it was interesting that that very night I was offered a part in a TV Documentary that is being negotiated in England by the agent of Philip Gardiner whose work can be seen at gardinerosborn.com |
Good memory. I was just calling his bluff. He immediately backed off.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:30 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:27 PM) |
Dear Trip
You have not lured me back - you are encouraging the nonsense and people like Dan and the Unknown Coward to further slander and defame me - thus I have to defend myself because the moderators here are without morals or any modicum of decency. |
where is the slander and defaming, RTB? I simply asked you what your credentials are since you stated that you were an expert in many fields, and you fearfully withheld answering.
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:31 PM
Coward says again (with no facts)
You didn't need to since I already know that you have not made any worthwhile contributions to society. Just like I already know that you have no real credentials and are not an expert in any field.
I say again:
Acts are what count and credentials given by liars and war mongers who have duped you never were of interest to me.
- I have DONE and achieved great things that include being written up in the media as something far more than I care to re-iterate. Because the media is sensationalistic trash generally.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:31 PM
Why do you feel the need to defend yourself. Let these people project and dissuede from chomping at their bits.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:31 PM
talk about cowards, RTB!
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:34 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:31 PM) |
| I have DONE and achieved great things that include being written up in the media |
You must be joking? Being written up in the media does not count as a worthwhile contribution to society, and neither does authoring unpopular and unread vanity books. What have you actually done that's a worthwhile contribution to society?
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:34 PM
Dear Trip
Have you not read why I am defending myself?
I am an author attempting to bring alternative history (true history) to the consciousness of society. It is an uphill battle without nonsense like this appearing on Google and drawing people here to see this crud. You are NOT helping the cause - not one iota. Please cease this constant garbage - even though I know you mean well. Maybe then I will only have to deal with this once or twice a week such as was the case last week.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:34 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:27 PM) |
Dear Trip
You have not lured me back - you are encouraging the nonsense and people like Dan and the Unknown Coward to further slander and defame me - thus I have to defend myself because the moderators here are without morals or any modicum of decency. |
That was not my aim. My aim was to attempt to engage in meaningful and insightful dialouge.
Pick a subject and make a post. Something fresh, something new, and I will attempt to offer rewarding feedback.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:35 PM
Have your gates been closed or maybe they have been opened?
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:36 PM
The only way you can "defend" yourself Robert Bruce Baird is through truth and by honestly answering our questions: What are your credentials? What worthwhile contributions have you made to society?
That's it. This isn't brain surgery you know.
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:37 PM
Dear Coward
The media was of the opinion that what I had done was important - but you are right - it is not important what they think; nor is it important what a group of tenured me-too think paid pundits for any other part of the paradignm think. What matters is what is actually DONE.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:37 PM
OK, steer me to another one of your sites where all this nonsense is not occuring.
Unknown
Nov 25, 2004, 09:38 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:37 PM) |
| What matters is what is actually DONE. |
so what have you done that merits special attention?
RobertBruceBaird
Nov 25, 2004, 09:38 PM
Dear Trip
Are you as ignorant as you are acting? This is a blatant attempt at luring me into posting meaningful threads - nothing more.
Pick a subject and make a post. Something fresh, something new, and I will attempt to offer rewarding feedback.
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:39 PM
| QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 25, 09:36 PM) |
The only way you can "defend" yourself Robert Bruce Baird is through truth and by honestly answering our questions: What are your credentials? What worthwhile contributions have you made to society? That's it. This isn't brain surgery you know. |
Enough! What the f**k are your credentials smart ass?
Trip like I do
Nov 25, 2004, 09:41 PM
| QUOTE (RobertBruceBaird @ Nov 25, 09:38 PM) |
Dear Trip
Are you as ignorant as you are acting? This is a blatant attempt at luring me into posting meaningful threads - nothing more.
Pick a subject and make a post. Something fresh, something new, and I will attempt to offer rewarding feedback. |
I must be ignorant because I do not follow your line of reasoning here.
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