any thoughts?

The only nation to surrender to the prohibitionists circa 1920 might have learned its history lessons by now. The current crop of evangelists who seek to legislate morality in this centurys version of the 'moral majority' could be excused if all I needed to do was sip my gin in the local speakeasy but their unholy alliance with the chickenhawks is getting to be more then an annoyance.

Americans are not by and large the extremist sheeple portrayed by muckraking rags although election results might give that impression.

Assuming the cultural war doesn't break out into outright civil war or that the Zionists don't lead Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld into the Megiddo valley for the rave to end all raves..this could be the provocation needed to get the apathetic and the lip service lefties off their couches trying to figure out why 'everybody loves Raymond'.

This is not a defeat for liberal values, it's an opportunity to restore them. If you choose to stay in America, you have to confront the reality of America.

Every choice has consequences. This is a fact beyond dialing up American idol. Its in the car you drive, the food you eat..its written in blood on your sweethearts engagement ring still irradiated from the bowel lining of the African who was x-rayed 6 times a day but managed to smuggle your crystal out because a sentry emptied his AK into the guy ahead of him after learning he gave his sister AIDS.

History is recording everything we do. How this new era of prohibitionists and chickenhawks plays out is up to you as well.

Four More Years

The majority of American voters know exactly what they voted for based on the last four years of the administration:

1. Military incompetence in Iraq. This morning's LA Times reports that American national guardsmen watched the looting of 370 tons of high explosives. They reported to their superiors that they had insufficient troops to stop the looting, and received no response. Drivers of hundreds of Toyota pickup trucks took part in the looting.

2. War on civil liberties: constitutional ammendment against flag burning (free speech), constitutional ammendment against reproductive privacy, war on some drugs (not against nicotine and alcohol), secret searches (violates fourth ammendment).

3. Lying to congress and the people (contrary to the beliefs of the majority of Bush voters, there were no weapons of mass destruction and Sadam Hussein had no ties to Al Qaeda). The outing of Valery Plame by a member of the administration will be successfully covered up.

4. Five hundred billion in deficits this year may become a trillion per year within four years.

5. Social security will go bankrupt because money diverted to privatization will not be available to fulfill commitments to the current working generation.

6. Osama Binladen, who is the actual person responsible for the horrible tragedy of 9/11, will continue at large and taunting us with video tapes. Had Bush done his job, Binladen wouldn't be making videos for our viewing pleasure.

And so on.

Any thoughts of your own, Dan, apart from diabolical laughter?

bwahahahahaha

actually, I do have a thought of interest

Hillary Clinton for Prez means at least four more years of Republicans in the Oval Office

just say NO!

I want to congratulate Rick with Bush re-election.
I definitly discard my papers.

Fxreedom, Lxiberty, Broxxerxood, Justxice, Dexmocxasy.

democracy is great, eh Enki?

Ahhhh, the same sh**t.

it is just great sh**t.

Bet certainly all is for the best of the bests of the possible worlds.

Viva Eldorado ...

He would work, but there's that problem of the constitutional requirement that a president be born a citizen. Also, he's been calling Dems 'losers' and 'girly men' lately

Right, can't have that name-calling, and he likes to fondle the women.

Arnold's history of fondling women shouldn't be too much of a problem, as it hardly compares to girly Clinton's use of cigars and loser interns.

Casual sex in the oval office; I could vote for that! Join the hedonistic party.

that would be the end of US for sure

Nah, hedonism is fun. Consenting adults, and all that.

...

Ultimately, everything we do is because of our feelings about it. People are irrational to the extent that they don't feel like using reason. Hence, a hedonistic philosophy can be argued to be complete.

How can Bush have won? It's a sad day. I heard it was because voters wanted just him to be associated with the fiasco in Iraq and with cleaning it up. I also heard that a prominent newspaper in England ran the front page article after the election 'How Can 51% of Americans be so Stupid?'. Haha! Yeah, a lot of americans are stupid trash. But there is a small percentage that is not. As always, it's dangerous to over-generalize. For all the stupid fat lazy american powder puffs out there, there are a few dangerous american cats, a few dangerous highly intelligent wolves.

I think Bush did an adequate job, given the circumstances in which he took over the oval office.

He has sh*t-kicked al queda's ass all over the middle east and has shoved any wmd plans right up Hussein's ass.

I'm glad Bush is in office in these times of turmoil and cganging global economy, for the better.

Pragmatism is what is needed and is what is being delivered. Although I,m already seeing cracks in the Bush bastions and do believe we will encouter the softer side of Bush during his second term.

Jed Bush in 2008?

Bush was voted out of office by the american people.

The american people are being patronized by the control of power in our nation.

Contrary to grade school social studies,
ours is not a nation of the people, by the people and for the people.

That's now a joke,
as when Cheney joked about Kerry's campaign when they took a poll regarding the bin laden tape; "He has to take a poll to know what he thinks."

You see, it's a joke that an elected official would even consider what the electorate thinks. In a dictatorship, that's hilarious.

The power and determination of the republic is not in the hands,
or in the interest, of the commonwealth.
Our democratic republic is now a publicly traded corporation.
The populace are no longer the governing body,
rather, the people are assets to be utilized by the corporate body.

This election is riddled with corruption, it is the greatest election fraud in history and it marks the end of our democratic republic.
It is now official, we are a fascistic plutocracy.

that's an interesting if not paranoid interpretation, although I suppose it might seem normal in parts of Massachussetts

Lol,

Have you read up on the exit polls of the election?
The early polls (in Ohio and Florida) showed Kerry to win.
When he didn't win, the early polls were referred to as being inaccurate.
Why is it assumed that the polls must be wrong?
When the polls and the official results don't match,
that should raise the suspicion of voting fraud.
When did suspicion and skepticism become paranoia?

Kerry said the results are conclusive. That's good enough for me

Conclusive, certainly. Legitimate? Nahh.
The info is out there, there's alot of serious problems showing up about the election.

Our society is greater than Bush and Kerry.

I'm told it has happened before, but we are in the midst of a crisis of democracy.
It's not paranoia, it's our history.

Any view that's not sanctioned and promulgated by the media
is naturally considered a 'conspiracy theory'.
Even using the phrase 'the media' in a critical sense is suspect.
Why is that?

I have the same impression myself, even as I look at my own writing.
We are accustomed to looking to government to tell us what to do.
We consider our representatives as our rulers.
We're all in the same boat, but we're not steering it.

Kerry had 10,000 lawyers at his disposal. If there was significant fraud, he would have prosecuted it. He didn't because there wasn't.
let it go

I'll let it go if you look it up.

What about Gore in 2000?

When the case was brought before the Supreme Court,
why didn't Gore ask for Scalia and Thomas to recuse themselves?

Scalia's son was a member of Bush's legal team.
Thomas's wife was vetting C.V.'s for the Bush administration.

That's a conflict of interest.
Requesting a judges recusal is a simple and common legal action.

They don't prosecute it unless their benefactors benefit.
It takes alot of money to be elected prez.

What resources Kerry had at his disposal was provided him
from those sources of large amounts of money.

Those sources provide funds to both parties,
because it's good business sense.

I've looked, and seen a bunch of bloggers stirring up paranoid fantasies that have been debunked by more credible sources. The simple fact is, Bush won. Not only did he win, he won the total popular vote by a few million votes. Sure, the system can be improved and should be. I commend any disenfranchised Democrat who channels their energy to improve the system. However, the fact is that Bush won this round and credible voices in the Democrat party do not come close to contesting this fact.

The system was improved.
In 2003, Bush appointed an election commission under homeland security to facilitate the 2004 elections.
There were more than a few million votes placed on electronic balloting.
That's an improvement. We hit a touch screen and the thing goes 'boop' and everything's set, no problem.

There's more to the story that hasn't come out yet.