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Robert the Bruce
Yes, Dan

It was always apparent what you are buying into. But you miss my point again.

There are people who have read Eisenhower and others. There are people who see that the exporting of terror through colonial corporatism and things like the WTO and many other programs will continue the underlying problem that leads to Osama having a higher moral ground and the chants of Osama at a Mexico versus US soccer game. And there are people who hunger for some honesty in politics - do you not agree that both of these candidates could have told their viewers about the lies of the actual human costs of American fighting men? But of course they are both signators of Secrecy Covenants and supporters of secret agencies who back-doored the CSIS computers while NAFTA was being negotiated in league with Mossad and many other things that are immoral, illegal and actually harmful to their own allies - CSIS is Canada's answer to the NSA.

Have you any interest in the FACTS? Do you read Chomsky, Zinn and real reportage? Do you really believe these Nations have a right to spy on each other and their citizens - Patriot Act II was also not discussed. Both parties have a bill ready on re-instituting the Draft. There is little if any difference between these two 'talking heads'.
Robert the Bruce
If any of you can help get radio interviews for me it would be appreciated - here is something you can send your local radio stations.

Hello

My name is Robert Bruce Baird. I am the author of a whole new framework of human cultural evolution based on artifacts and modern scientific tools rather than dogma and deceit. There are many topics on which I can be an interesting guest. Here are some of them:

1. Who Built the Pyramids and Why?

I am scheduled with Rob McConnell's new network on this subject in mid November. Rob is part of a research site on the Pyramids and I hope this will make him a better host than Jack Landman was in my last interview on the Cyber City Radio Network. You can listen to my portion of two interviews with him at World-Mysteries.com where over twenty of my books are available on CD or as e-books.

2. Who are the real 'conspiracy theorists'?

You can read a positive comment from Jim Marrs at my publisher site - http://www.invispress.com/DRD

I am a debunker of any alien influence on human cultural evolution but I am able to explain Contact.

3. Who was Jesus (Iesa) and what was the 'Chriost'?

The Gaedhilic Qumranites and the Tradition of Abaris (rabbi) the Druid.

4. Soulful science or common psi-sense.

I was offered my own call-in radio show when I was just 24 and working with Ambert Dail in Hampton Roads Virginia. Maybe I should have taken him up on that offer almost thirty years ago.

Hoping to hear from you, I am.

Robert Bruce Baird (Bob)
416-516-3584

PS. I was also a recent guest on WQXI in Atlanta's show called The Two Stews and I have been offered a role in a TV documentary being negotiated in England by Philip Gardiner who has made a wonderful comment on my book The Prehistoric Worldwide Import of the GREAT LAKES.
Dan
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Yes, Dan

It was always apparent what you are buying into.

huh? I wasn't pointing out what I was 'buying into', I was pointing out your apparent oversight


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But you miss my point again.

I miss your point? I'm wondering if you have automatic blinders in your brain that prevent you from actually understanding what I am saying.

I am not concerned with what the 'truth' is in this particular thread, I am talking about public perception and how this factors into the presidential race. All of your secret societies and hidden agendas may or may not be true, but the fact is that the simple perceptions of the public largely determine the election and I am talking about these perceptions. Are you going to miss my point again?



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If any of you can help get radio interviews for me it would be appreciated

I bet you could get onto Coast To Coast. Have you been on this show before?
Robert the Bruce
Dear Dan

The point you make here is what we can both agree on -

I am not concerned with what the 'truth' is in this particular thread,

And yes, I am more concerned with facts (and truth is often hard to achieve if ever). I think there are more people tuned in to the facts than the people who make the polls too.

CtC would be nice - I have just started doing this and it will take time to get on CtC. They really are 'biased' and not likely to warm up to what I say anymore than the others that try to promote'miss'-story. Art is a Mason for example.

Whitley Strieber would be best for me.
Robert the Bruce
number 154 the newspaper of education rights november 1998

the delphi technique to achieve consensus

how it is leading us away from representative government to an illusion of citizen participation.

the delphi technique and consensus building are both founded in the same principle - the hegelian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, with synthesis becoming the new thesis. the goal is a continual evolution to "oneness of mind" (consensus means solidarity of belief) -the collective mind, the wholistic society, the wholistic earth, etc. in thesis and antithesis, opinions or views are presented on a subject to establish views and opposing views. in synthesis, opposites are brought together to form the new thesis. all participants in the process are then to accept ownership of the new thesis and support it, changing their views to align with the new thesis. through a continual process of evolution, "oneness of mind" will supposedly occur.

in group settings, the delphi technique is an unethical method of achieving consensus on controversial topics. it requires well-trained professionals, known as "facilitators" or "change agents," who deliberately escalate tension among group members, pitting one faction against another to make a preordained viewpoint appear "sensible," while making opposing views appear ridiculous.

in her book educating for the new world order, author and educator beverly eakman makes numerous references to the need of those in power to preserve the illusion that there is "community participation in decision-making processes, while in fact lay citizens are being squeezed out."

the setting or type of group is immaterial for the success of the technique. the point is that, when people are in groups that tend to share a particular knowledge base, they display certain identifiable characteristics, known as group dynamics, which allows the facilitator to apply the basic strategy.

the facilitators or change agents encourage each person in a group to express concerns about the programs, projects, or policies in question. they listen attentively, elicit input from group members, form "task forces," urge participants to make lists, and in going through these motions, learn about each member of a group. they are trained to identify the "leaders," the "loud mouths," the "weak or non-committal members," and those who are apt to change sides frequently during an argument.

suddenly, the amiable facilitators become professional agitators and "devil's advocates." using the "divide and conquer" principle, they manipulate one opinion against another, making those who are out of step appear "ridiculous, unknowledgeable, inarticulate, or dogmatic." they attempt to anger certain participants, thereby accelerating tensions. the facilitators are well trained in psychological manipulation. they are able to predict the reactions of each member in a group. individuals in opposition to the desired policy or program will be shut out.

the delphi technique works. it is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and community groups. the "targets" rarely, if ever, realize that they are being manipulated. if they do suspect what is happening, they do not know how to end the process. the facilitator seeks to polarize the group in order to become an accepted member of the group and of the process. the desired idea is then placed on the table and individual opinions are sought during discussion. soon, associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and they pressure the entire group to accept their proposition.

how the delphi technique works

consistent use of this technique to control public participation in our political system is causing alarm among people who cherish the form of government established by our founding fathers. efforts in education and other areas have brought the emerging picture into focus.

in the not-too-distant past, the city of spokane, in washington state, hired a consultant to the tune of $47,000 to facilitate the direction of city government. this development brought a hue and cry from the local population. the ensuing course of action holds an eerie similarity to what is happening in education reform. a newspaper editorial described how groups of disenfranchised citizens were brought together to "discuss" what they felt needed to be changed at the local government level. a compilation of the outcomes of those "discussions" influenced the writing of the city/county charter.

that sounds innocuous. but what actually happened in spokane is happening in communities and school districts all across the country. let's review the process that occurs in these meetings.

first, a facilitator is hired. while his job is supposedly neutral and non-judgmental, the opposite is actually true. the facilitator is there to direct the meeting to a preset conclusion.

the facilitator begins by working the crowd to establish a good-guy-bad-guy scenario. anyone disagreeing with the facilitator must be made to appear as the bad guy, with the facilitator appearing as the good guy. to accomplish this, the facilitator seeks out those who disagree and makes them look foolish, inept, or aggressive, which sends a clear message to the rest of the audience that, if they don't want the same treatment, they must keep quiet. when the opposition has been identified and alienated, the facilitator becomes the good guy - a friend - and the agenda and direction of the meeting are established without the audience ever realizing what has happened.

next, the attendees are broken up into smaller groups of seven or eight people. each group has its own facilitator. the group facilitators steer participants to discuss preset issues, employing the same tactics as the lead facilitator.

participants are encouraged to put their ideas and disagreements on paper, with the results to be compiled later. who does the compiling? if you ask participants, you typically hear: "those running the meeting compiled the results." oh-h! the next question is: "how do you know that what you wrote on your sheet of paper was incorporated into the final outcome?" the typical answer is: "well, i've wondered about that, because what i wrote doesn't seem to be reflected. i guess my views were in the minority."

that is the crux of the situation. if 50 people write down their ideas individually, to be compiled later into a final outcome, no one knows what anyone else has written. that the final outcome of such a meeting reflects anyone's input at all is highly questionable, and the same holds true when the facilitator records the group's comments on paper. but participants in these types of meetings usually don't question the process.

why hold such meetings at all if the outcomes are already established? the answer is because it is imperative for the acceptance of the school-to-work agenda, or the environmental agenda, or whatever the agenda, that ordinary people assume ownership of the preset outcomes. if people believe an idea is theirs, they'll support it. if they believe an idea is being forced on them, they'll resist.

the delphi technique is being used very effectively to change our government from a representative form in which elected individuals represent the people, to a "participatory democracy" in which citizens selected at large are facilitated into ownership of preset outcomes. these citizens believe that their input is important to the result, whereas the reality is that the outcome was already established by people not apparent to the participants.

how to diffuse the delphi technique

three steps can diffuse the delphi technique as facilitators attempt to steer a meeting in a specific direction.

always be charming, courteous, and pleasant. smile. moderate your voice so as not to come across as belligerent or aggressive.

stay focused. if possible, jot down your thoughts or questions. when facilitators are asked questions they don't want to answer, they often digress from the issue that was raised and try instead to put the questioner on the defensive. do not fall for this tactic. courteously bring the facilitator back to your original question. if he rephrases it so that it becomes an accusatory statement (a popular tactic), simply say, "that is not what i asked. what i asked was . . ." and repeat your question.

be persistent. if putting you on the defensive doesn't work, facilitators often resort to long monologues that drag on for several minutes. during that time, the group usually forgets the question that was asked, which is the intent. let the facilitator finish. then with polite persistence state: "but you didn't answer my question. my question was . . ." and repeat your question.

never become angry under any circumstances. anger directed at the facilitator will immediately make the facilitator the victim. this defeats the purpose. the goal of facilitators is to make the majority of the group members like them, and to alienate anyone who might pose a threat to the realization of their agenda. people with firm, fixed beliefs, who are not afraid to stand up for what they believe in, are obvious threats. if a participant becomes a victim, the facilitator loses face and favor with the crowd. this is why crowds are broken up into groups of seven or eight, and why objections are written on paper rather than voiced aloud where they can be open to public discussion and debate. it's called crowd control.

at a meeting, have two or three people who know the delphi technique dispersed through the crowd so that, when the facilitator digresses from a question, they can stand up and politely say: "but you didn't answer that lady/gentleman's question." even if the facilitator suspects certain group members are working together, he will not want to alienate the crowd by making accusations. occasionally, it takes only one incident of this type for the crowd to figure out what's going on.

establish a plan of action before a meeting. everyone on your team should know his part. later, analyze what went right, what went wrong and why, and what needs to happen the next time. never strategize during a meeting.
a popular tactic of facilitators, if a session is meeting with resistance, is to call a recess. during the recess, the facilitator and his spotters (people who observe the crowd during the course of a meeting) watch the crowd to see who congregates where, especially those who have offered resistance. if the resistors congregate in one place, a spotter will gravitate to that group and join in the conversation, reporting what was said to the facilitator. when the meeting resumes, the facilitator will steer clear of the resistors. do not congregate. instead gravitate to where the facilitators or spotters are. stay away from your team members.

this strategy also works in a face-to-face, one-on-one meeting with anyone trained to use the delphi technique.
lynn stuter is an education researcher in washington state. her web site address is www.icehouse.net/lmstuter.

the hegelian dialectic
is used to create the delphi technique

http://www.learn-usa.com/er011.htm
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