Delphi Oracle
1). Does Something Performing Functions of the Delphi Oracle (SPFDO) an imperative element of progress of any civilization?
2). Does our brain always need to get ‘words’ of that SPFDO [some kind of Neuro Push (perturbation)] to progress in its development and pass to new level of reality perception?
3). What can be considered as the contemporary SPFDO?
4). Can the SPFDO to be considered as Source of Correlation (SC)?
5). Can we say that the society always needs a Source of Correlation [e.g. as the most simple example of SC we can consider Magnificent Gothic temple at the middle of the city which curves does shape mentality of the people of a city. “ ‘First we construct buildings then buildings construct us.” Sir Winston Churchill”]?
Any ideas?
Full Version: Delphi Oracle
Subterranean gases helped the Dryads (Delphi Oracles and Sibylls) to make predictions.
Gothic Cathedrals constucted with the knowledge of the Temple attributed to Solomon (sun and moon) that may never have been constructed and which is drawn from the Great Pyramid do indeed establish lattices of energy that CONSTRUCT our way of thinking - to some extent. TEMPLARS including Essenes in some cases (such as one I know) still study these things and still build stele on the Earth Energy Grid like the Washington Monument.
Gothic Cathedrals constucted with the knowledge of the Temple attributed to Solomon (sun and moon) that may never have been constructed and which is drawn from the Great Pyramid do indeed establish lattices of energy that CONSTRUCT our way of thinking - to some extent. TEMPLARS including Essenes in some cases (such as one I know) still study these things and still build stele on the Earth Energy Grid like the Washington Monument.
>lattices of energy that CONSTRUCT
I do not think that this terminology is apt to place here. At least in some way or another with slight objections the word CONSTRUCT can be accepted, but not “lattices of energy.”
Better not to obscure evident reality with uncertain concepts leading astray.
>Washington Monument
Those who decided to erect the monument in Washington have no idea what for it is.
The best examples are the Notre dame de Pari, Leipzig Cathedral, WTC, former Reichstag etc.
The SC can be of natural origin too if the city is built up near it.
When the SC is destroyed, like WTC destruction or Reichstag burning in Nazi period, then fundamental changes in society do happen.
I do not think that this terminology is apt to place here. At least in some way or another with slight objections the word CONSTRUCT can be accepted, but not “lattices of energy.”
Better not to obscure evident reality with uncertain concepts leading astray.
>Washington Monument
Those who decided to erect the monument in Washington have no idea what for it is.
The best examples are the Notre dame de Pari, Leipzig Cathedral, WTC, former Reichstag etc.
The SC can be of natural origin too if the city is built up near it.
When the SC is destroyed, like WTC destruction or Reichstag burning in Nazi period, then fundamental changes in society do happen.
Dear Enki
Do you know what a CONSTRUCT is - or 'lattices of energy'? I am not talking about 'construction' of buildings though buildings may be part of the CONSTRUCT.
What is the jargon SC meant to convey?
Do you know what a CONSTRUCT is - or 'lattices of energy'? I am not talking about 'construction' of buildings though buildings may be part of the CONSTRUCT.
What is the jargon SC meant to convey?
Another interesting aspect is related with Signs and Places related with those signs.
Signs can be created, dreamed out, and invented. It is very interesting. They also can be used falsely to Correlate Events on Level of Psychology. SC can have as positive so and negative effect. They can be used as for good so and for conducting evil. If anybody is interested I can bring some interesting examples.
There was an attempt to obscure Putin Presidency, creating a bad sign by burning Manezh building. Huge fire flames at background of Kremlin were marking first day of his Presidency.
Sometimes signs of natural origin can be used for speculations. E.g. already 4th hurricane coming on Florida can be considered and used in some religious circles as warning of the Providence.
The death of Patriarch of Alexandria can be considered as a specific event of that kind too.
That us why when we are speaking about cyber-security, the human brain better to be considered as an object, security of which should be provided, in case if people really want to be free and independent.
Signs can be created, dreamed out, and invented. It is very interesting. They also can be used falsely to Correlate Events on Level of Psychology. SC can have as positive so and negative effect. They can be used as for good so and for conducting evil. If anybody is interested I can bring some interesting examples.
There was an attempt to obscure Putin Presidency, creating a bad sign by burning Manezh building. Huge fire flames at background of Kremlin were marking first day of his Presidency.
Sometimes signs of natural origin can be used for speculations. E.g. already 4th hurricane coming on Florida can be considered and used in some religious circles as warning of the Providence.
The death of Patriarch of Alexandria can be considered as a specific event of that kind too.
That us why when we are speaking about cyber-security, the human brain better to be considered as an object, security of which should be provided, in case if people really want to be free and independent.
| QUOTE (Robert the Bruce @ Sep 24, 07:39 AM) |
| Dear Enki Do you know what a CONSTRUCT is - or 'lattices of energy'? I am not talking about 'construction' of buildings though buildings may be part of the CONSTRUCT. What is the jargon SC meant to convey? |
I have to go now, I will add my comments later.
The above two messagies are mine, it looks like I automatically was loged out.
I have noticed (as Trip commented) that there are few people who answer direct questions. Much time talking 'at' each other does not communicate a great deal. As noted in the work of Steven Cover on active listening before he developed it into empathic listening there is a need to state in your own words what others mean in any real communication - but the lack of answering simple direct questions starts the ball rolling in a totally negative direction with all many of projections and defenses.
| QUOTE (Robert the Bruce @ Sep 24, 07:39 AM) |
| Dear Enki Do you know what a CONSTRUCT is - or 'lattices of energy'? I am not talking about 'construction' of buildings though buildings may be part of the CONSTRUCT. What is the jargon SC meant to convey? |
Yes I know, and I do not like those definitions. Moreover I consider those two concepts as not handy. The Construct is too broad category, not only by its definition but by initial meaning at subconscious lever, it does not help to focus over the phenomena to construct new ideas over it, it is so bad that it defuses meanings in brain bringing on too broad generalizations. The other phrase is a blunt profanation. The word energy may cause serious misunderstanding and it is Blocking Word. Moreover used with word Lattice it entirely blocks [
] further evolution of the main idea. Hope you understand what I mean. | QUOTE |
| What is the jargon SC meant to convey? |
That will help to expand frames of the unimaginable.
Certainly you may prefer to use your own vocabulary, it is not an academic discipline. Besides in different parts of the world different approaches may freely exist.
Dear Enki
Could you please describe what a CONSTRUCT is for me - I do not think you actually have any idea what it is. Could you please explain what SC is as well.
Could you please describe what a CONSTRUCT is for me - I do not think you actually have any idea what it is. Could you please explain what SC is as well.
May I know why you think that I do not know?
I love when a question is answered with a question. Don't you?
Trip
Trip
Because you do not answer the question and you talk about things that indicate you do not understand lattice design in physics or the things we have discussed here for months before your arrival; with people like Red Dragon the shaman. Here is a little of Bob Gottfried's recent book that might help you address these matters.
String Theory knows about the harmonic forces that are less than solid which somehow combine to make what we perceive as a solid. The astrophysicists now have told us that 95% of the universe is 'Dark Matter' or ‘Dark Energy’ - so get with it before you are invisible and don't know it! Just kidding! We fear that which we cannot fully comprehend and our experts or priests and doctors have been some of the worst perpetrators or enablers of our fears. We even allow fear to pre-empt love which is ironic because at the end of our lives it’s not the fears or the differences that matter the most but whether we loved and allowed ourselves to be loved as much as possible.
InteliTapping:
“I won’t go into the countless intricate details of the phenomenal human body, which includes trillions of smart cells and thousands of complex biochemical processes occurring each and every second, let alone the ability to think and be self aware. It’s miraculous. I strongly believe that all of nature’s potential to develop further is based on the ability to better use the Ultimate Intelligence we all comprise. Nature constantly draws from the Intelligence for the purpose of preservation and balance.
Creationists may use the above examples as proof that evolution can’t account for these marvels, that only an intelligent creator—God—could have produced that progression. But if this were exactly the case, then why didn’t God, the absolute Intelligence, create animals perfectly to begin with, without the need to evolve?
For example, the human brain was originally very basic. Called the reptilian brain, it consisted mainly of the brain stem and it was built to support strong survival instincts. After many years, the mammalian brain, which among other things was geared to develop emotions, emerged. It took a few million years for the neo-cortex, or the thinking brain to develop. This brain is capable of many of our day-to-day functions such as performing mathematical calculations and reasoning.
Experts agree that these three brain areas are not always coordinated. In fact, in times of stress they activate in the order of their creation. First the reptilian brain reacts, then the mammalian followed by the neo-cortex. In other words, the brain responds to stressors first from the instinct region, then from emotion, and finally from reason…
Because the brain developed only as human’s needs evolved, I believe that like all of nature, development happened through the process of InteliTapping. This phenomenon can more clearly explain on the one hand the development of the most complex and sophisticated organ in the planet, and on the other a somewhat uncoordinated and to a certain extent ineffective brain.
Every new perception of knowledge is always based either directly or indirectly on older knowledge. InteliTapping allows us to connect with the oldest, yet most complete source of knowledge.” (10)
The archetypes and their symbols that were intuited and developed by the alchemists are the SOURCE of the teaching or learning of Jesus (whoever and however many people constitute his amalgam character). The excellent PBS TV show called Nature produced a show on the origins of music and the biological and archetypal impact it has had on our evolution and emotional wherewithal. Along with reed instruments from as long ago as 60,000 years that obviously show sophisticated development of technology they had the cave operas of those who rubbed and drummed on stalactites. They posited that the tree-swinging hominid that like the Sumatran Gibbon co-ordinates community for protection through territorial chants, is not so much less aware as most of our great Lockean influenced academics seem to be. These animals also learned what plants are dangerous and what plants alter your spiritual consciousness. You can see it when your puppy goes outside for the first time and chews on some grass to settle its tummy. Our genes contain a lot of information or the ability to tap-in to much knowledge. The buzz you get from ‘weed’ is the buzz coming from your Thalami and Third Eye or Pineal gland that has a crystal radio receiver and grains or crystalline structures. Crystalline structures like quartz were known to be useful in the Lost Chord of the Druids and more ancient shamans. There are magnificent quartz caves in Central America and other places that would have been used by early hominids for a certainty.
String Theory knows about the harmonic forces that are less than solid which somehow combine to make what we perceive as a solid. The astrophysicists now have told us that 95% of the universe is 'Dark Matter' or ‘Dark Energy’ - so get with it before you are invisible and don't know it! Just kidding! We fear that which we cannot fully comprehend and our experts or priests and doctors have been some of the worst perpetrators or enablers of our fears. We even allow fear to pre-empt love which is ironic because at the end of our lives it’s not the fears or the differences that matter the most but whether we loved and allowed ourselves to be loved as much as possible.
InteliTapping:
“I won’t go into the countless intricate details of the phenomenal human body, which includes trillions of smart cells and thousands of complex biochemical processes occurring each and every second, let alone the ability to think and be self aware. It’s miraculous. I strongly believe that all of nature’s potential to develop further is based on the ability to better use the Ultimate Intelligence we all comprise. Nature constantly draws from the Intelligence for the purpose of preservation and balance.
Creationists may use the above examples as proof that evolution can’t account for these marvels, that only an intelligent creator—God—could have produced that progression. But if this were exactly the case, then why didn’t God, the absolute Intelligence, create animals perfectly to begin with, without the need to evolve?
For example, the human brain was originally very basic. Called the reptilian brain, it consisted mainly of the brain stem and it was built to support strong survival instincts. After many years, the mammalian brain, which among other things was geared to develop emotions, emerged. It took a few million years for the neo-cortex, or the thinking brain to develop. This brain is capable of many of our day-to-day functions such as performing mathematical calculations and reasoning.
Experts agree that these three brain areas are not always coordinated. In fact, in times of stress they activate in the order of their creation. First the reptilian brain reacts, then the mammalian followed by the neo-cortex. In other words, the brain responds to stressors first from the instinct region, then from emotion, and finally from reason…
Because the brain developed only as human’s needs evolved, I believe that like all of nature, development happened through the process of InteliTapping. This phenomenon can more clearly explain on the one hand the development of the most complex and sophisticated organ in the planet, and on the other a somewhat uncoordinated and to a certain extent ineffective brain.
Every new perception of knowledge is always based either directly or indirectly on older knowledge. InteliTapping allows us to connect with the oldest, yet most complete source of knowledge.” (10)
The archetypes and their symbols that were intuited and developed by the alchemists are the SOURCE of the teaching or learning of Jesus (whoever and however many people constitute his amalgam character). The excellent PBS TV show called Nature produced a show on the origins of music and the biological and archetypal impact it has had on our evolution and emotional wherewithal. Along with reed instruments from as long ago as 60,000 years that obviously show sophisticated development of technology they had the cave operas of those who rubbed and drummed on stalactites. They posited that the tree-swinging hominid that like the Sumatran Gibbon co-ordinates community for protection through territorial chants, is not so much less aware as most of our great Lockean influenced academics seem to be. These animals also learned what plants are dangerous and what plants alter your spiritual consciousness. You can see it when your puppy goes outside for the first time and chews on some grass to settle its tummy. Our genes contain a lot of information or the ability to tap-in to much knowledge. The buzz you get from ‘weed’ is the buzz coming from your Thalami and Third Eye or Pineal gland that has a crystal radio receiver and grains or crystalline structures. Crystalline structures like quartz were known to be useful in the Lost Chord of the Druids and more ancient shamans. There are magnificent quartz caves in Central America and other places that would have been used by early hominids for a certainty.
I think Robert, that your maniacal desire to check (as well as question) other people knowledge must fully, once and forever, be satisfied by exclusive practical example in coming future.
Experiment is one of the best criteria of truth.
And quite convincing than boring explanations.
It is old ancestral tradition Trip.
Experiment is one of the best criteria of truth.
And quite convincing than boring explanations.
It is old ancestral tradition Trip.
Dear Trip
It is a most often used dodge - by those who DENY and avoid reality or the issues at hand - but not one that will work to any degree here.
It is a most often used dodge - by those who DENY and avoid reality or the issues at hand - but not one that will work to any degree here.
Dear Enki
You say:
I think Robert, that your maniacal desire to check (as well as question) other people knowledge must fully, once and forever, be satisfied by exclusive practical example in coming future.
Experiment is one of the best criteria of truth.
And quite convincing than boring explanations.
It is old ancestral tradition Trip.
I say:
That old ancestral programming of the people who programmed you will not work here - we expect an answer and you will have to demonstrate you know what you are talking about when you say 'energy is a blocking word'. It is a physical reality and a term most people understand from physics if not mere common sense.
The 'once and forever, be satisfied by exclusive practical example in coming future' is another veiled intimation with no significance and suggests you have serious issues that go beyond mere difficulty with languages or symbols. The 'maniacal' term is one that all can agree with - as you look in the mirror.
You say:
I think Robert, that your maniacal desire to check (as well as question) other people knowledge must fully, once and forever, be satisfied by exclusive practical example in coming future.
Experiment is one of the best criteria of truth.
And quite convincing than boring explanations.
It is old ancestral tradition Trip.
I say:
That old ancestral programming of the people who programmed you will not work here - we expect an answer and you will have to demonstrate you know what you are talking about when you say 'energy is a blocking word'. It is a physical reality and a term most people understand from physics if not mere common sense.
The 'once and forever, be satisfied by exclusive practical example in coming future' is another veiled intimation with no significance and suggests you have serious issues that go beyond mere difficulty with languages or symbols. The 'maniacal' term is one that all can agree with - as you look in the mirror.
Robert. Have you ever in your life published a scientific article in Physics? I think you did not. And as I understand you are not a physicist. So as you are not a physicist you cannot discuss seriously anything related with String Theory. As String Theory is very complex theory. And you cannot have knowledge about that just by reading Encyclopedia, even if it is the Britannica! Even many physicists who are well proficient in advance branches of the modern physics do not dare so easily play with concepts of the String Theory. You dare. Because you are … I think that I do not need to explain what I understand under those dots.
I said that in that context the word “Energy” is not convenient to use as within this context it is a blocking word, it is like to say Sweet poison, Good murderer, Flat sphere!!!
Dear Enki
I also have not had a published article written under many other disciplines that I write about and report on. I don't think that has any bearing on my ability to write or be comprehended by those whose degrees in these areas and whose responses to what I write would indicate I do know something about them. But I do have many books written about physics and physicists that physicists are publishing.
SO - when are you going to get back to telling me about those 'gates' and how you are going to damage me in some manner through your great spiritual power? I presume those dots are another form of argumentum ad hominem.
I also have not had a published article written under many other disciplines that I write about and report on. I don't think that has any bearing on my ability to write or be comprehended by those whose degrees in these areas and whose responses to what I write would indicate I do know something about them. But I do have many books written about physics and physicists that physicists are publishing.
SO - when are you going to get back to telling me about those 'gates' and how you are going to damage me in some manner through your great spiritual power? I presume those dots are another form of argumentum ad hominem.
You say:
I said that in that context the word “Energy” is not convenient to use as within this context it is a blocking word, it is like to say Sweep poison, Good murderer, Flat sphere!!!
I say: HUH?
I said that in that context the word “Energy” is not convenient to use as within this context it is a blocking word, it is like to say Sweep poison, Good murderer, Flat sphere!!!
I say: HUH?
Any idiot in America can write a book about Einstein, Poincare, Pauli. But those books are not accepted by scientific community as worthy to be read. Any idiot can gather many books make copy-paste and master to publish any sheet.
In scientific community, scientific materialsare Refereed! There are such a concept as trusted academic sources. When professor of history from Oxford University publishes new book on history of England we trust his work and read it, because Oxford and that professor have high credibility.
But at the same time any idiot can find books about history of England CONSTRUCT some garbage by copy-pastes and publish that if the Editor thinks that there are quite many idiots who pay for that garbage.
In scientific community, scientific materialsare Refereed! There are such a concept as trusted academic sources. When professor of history from Oxford University publishes new book on history of England we trust his work and read it, because Oxford and that professor have high credibility.
But at the same time any idiot can find books about history of England CONSTRUCT some garbage by copy-pastes and publish that if the Editor thinks that there are quite many idiots who pay for that garbage.
Dear Enki
If any idiot can do it - why don't you?
As to peer review - I write against that kind of control - see Kuhn and Kaku or others if you wish to be informed rather than the 'idiot' you are.
If any idiot can do it - why don't you?
As to peer review - I write against that kind of control - see Kuhn and Kaku or others if you wish to be informed rather than the 'idiot' you are.
I want to apologize to other members of this forum for this quarrel with RTB. I came to conclusion that in future better to ignore his posts and not to respond on them as this man does not aware about elementary scientific methods of study of any subject.
I wonder that in 21 century, in the West it is possible to meet such strange people.
What is more strange is that such people are able to spread wrong shapes of their mind among other people.
I wonder that in 21 century, in the West it is possible to meet such strange people.
What is more strange is that such people are able to spread wrong shapes of their mind among other people.
May I ask Enki where your source of knowledge derives from, if that is not too personal.
Do you posses any degrees? Accredited from where? Why should your word be accepted as empirical fact? Let's level the playing field here. Are you educated in any specific field? You are a curiosity indeed? However, didn't curiosity kill the cat?
You're broken english makes it at times hard to follow your train of thought, often having to fill in mis-spoken blanks. Dicernability is a pre-requisite to informative understanding, don't you think Enki? Maybe the words that you type are inadequately expressing your mode of intellectual thought? Maybe it is just moi, but it is easy to tell that english is not your first language?
I do comprehend some of the language but then it seems to drift off to seemingly Babble-on. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, just making an observation. If I'm out in left-field with my assesment I apologize.
Trip
Do you posses any degrees? Accredited from where? Why should your word be accepted as empirical fact? Let's level the playing field here. Are you educated in any specific field? You are a curiosity indeed? However, didn't curiosity kill the cat?
You're broken english makes it at times hard to follow your train of thought, often having to fill in mis-spoken blanks. Dicernability is a pre-requisite to informative understanding, don't you think Enki? Maybe the words that you type are inadequately expressing your mode of intellectual thought? Maybe it is just moi, but it is easy to tell that english is not your first language?
I do comprehend some of the language but then it seems to drift off to seemingly Babble-on. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, just making an observation. If I'm out in left-field with my assesment I apologize.
Trip
P.S. I am not literate in this topic but it sounds extremely interesting and I would like to learn so if you have something to teach then by all means please do and forget about the quarelling.
| QUOTE (Enki @ Sep 23, 12:09 PM) |
| “ ‘First we construct buildings then buildings construct us.” Sir Winston Churchill”]? Any ideas? |
Mathematically - squares, circles, rectangles, lines, arches, etc.
This implies what?
Our minds consciously 'form' mathematically based structures that in turn mirror that consciousness unconsciously?
Have you ever read any of Lewis Mumford's work? I have posted some of his researh here on mind-brain.
I don't know if it is applicable to this topic or not.
Trip
Have you ever read any of Lewis Mumford's work? I have posted some of his researh here on mind-brain.
I don't know if it is applicable to this topic or not.
Trip
| QUOTE (Unknown @ Sep 24, 01:23 PM) |
| Why should your word be accepted as empirical fact? |
I do not say that my words have to be accepted as empirical fact. I just express opinion on base on anonymity. You can agree with that opinion or disagree with it.
It is supposed that when we speak about something we possibly have some kind of opinion about that based on some kind of knowledge. Sometimes people like to speak about things they have no idea about. That happens. So and what? If you feel that expressed opinion is not well grounded, is put in bad English you may choose not to discuss any topic with person whose ideas does not ensure any credibility for you.
Forum is a place where people express their opinion about different topics they are interested in.
I do not claim ANY originality, ANY specificity, I do not claim ANY exceptional point. I just express my opinion and contradict others opinion when I find it is necessary from my point of view to object.
If the manner of the presentation is not a good one for you personally, then do not read.
10/4 Rubber Ducky! Quack! Quack!
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Sep 24, 01:51 PM) |
| 10/4 Rubber Ducky! Quack! Quack! |
It is for the first time when such an opinion in this very framework gets out from this very region and moreover becomes public. If such a thing happens, that means that something extremely serious happened that resulted in expression of that opinion (it does not matter whether it is considered on this forum a pure stupidity, science fiction or just words in the air or not). But if the fact by itself is not valued, then MAYBE some circles do deserve the very destiny they are facing to now and the destiny prepared for them by the "Providence" in the coming future. I regret very much for that. I wash my hands!
Take care,
Enki.
Stenki merenki dinky dink. Stenki merenki do.
You is not to understanding that word the come.
Garble: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame80.html
You is not to understanding that word the come.
Garble: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame80.html
Or maybe: Patois http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame91.html
And yea, do wash those God for saken hands of yours Enkless for extremely dirty they are indeed.
And tutalu to you too, denki.
And yea, do wash those God for saken hands of yours Enkless for extremely dirty they are indeed.
And tutalu to you too, denki.
| QUOTE (Enki @ Sep 24, 02:05 PM) |
| then MAYBE some circles do deserve the very destiny they are facing to now and the destiny prepared for them by the "Providence" in the coming future. |
And oh yea, you circle jerks do deserve the very destiny now facing YOU that has been and is being prepared by so-called providence.
some circles do deserve the very destiny they are facing to now and the destiny prepared for them by the "Providence" in the coming future
HMMMM!!!!
Watch out Trip - you are now in the same boat - I hope his 'energy' helps you even though he wishes it would not.
HMMMM!!!!
Watch out Trip - you are now in the same boat - I hope his 'energy' helps you even though he wishes it would not.
Hey, it is fun to get angry, I only wish it was face to face, where words would just not be suffice with situations (individuals) like this. If you're coming on, come on. 10/4! Where it would be wise to know these numbers 9-1-1! A threat that is not disguised in un-intelligible garble.
Very cathartic.
Very cathartic.
My assistant was in Univeristy with the man who got Mumford's Chair. My assistant say the guy was a hard worker but got lower marks than he did.
I have read some of his work but do not recall enough to see the relationship with an Oracle although loosely interpreted it could be said that he saw we 'manifest reality' through our conscious visualization and other things Bucky Fuller said was 'creative realization'.
I do not hold the watered down drugged up and highly buyable Delphi Oracles in this kind of station or status however. Perhaps there was a time before Orpheus or at the time of the man some say wrote some of Orpheus (Pythagoras) that they were indeed able to manifest or positively visualize things that came true. Usually visions or visionaries are not able to do that.
I have read some of his work but do not recall enough to see the relationship with an Oracle although loosely interpreted it could be said that he saw we 'manifest reality' through our conscious visualization and other things Bucky Fuller said was 'creative realization'.
I do not hold the watered down drugged up and highly buyable Delphi Oracles in this kind of station or status however. Perhaps there was a time before Orpheus or at the time of the man some say wrote some of Orpheus (Pythagoras) that they were indeed able to manifest or positively visualize things that came true. Usually visions or visionaries are not able to do that.
Besides I do not even know what the Delphi Oracle is. I was hoping Denkless would be kind enough to inform me but all I received was complete rudeness in response, so phuck him, ballless weiner.
Dear Unknown who has an interest in the nature of Oracles
Divination and other Qabalistic or Verbal Tradition arts (some say science) are very numerous. Enki has been rattling on about many things and there are threads here where you can get more targetted insight. For example - buildings and the forms or layouts were all well thought out and people would vie for the opportunity to be entombed as part of the imbued soul they were to have - but that does not mean most cuildings were the kind of thing that the Gothic Cathedrals were.
Fulcanelli's Les Mystere des Cathedral is highly coded alchemically but if you were to read it - then I could address your specific questions.
If it is some other thing you have an interest in - then start a thread and I will probably have an on point piece in my Encyclopedia that I can post for you.
Divination and other Qabalistic or Verbal Tradition arts (some say science) are very numerous. Enki has been rattling on about many things and there are threads here where you can get more targetted insight. For example - buildings and the forms or layouts were all well thought out and people would vie for the opportunity to be entombed as part of the imbued soul they were to have - but that does not mean most cuildings were the kind of thing that the Gothic Cathedrals were.
Fulcanelli's Les Mystere des Cathedral is highly coded alchemically but if you were to read it - then I could address your specific questions.
If it is some other thing you have an interest in - then start a thread and I will probably have an on point piece in my Encyclopedia that I can post for you.
| QUOTE (Robert the Bruce @ Sep 24, 12:20 PM) |
| Every new perception of knowledge is always based either directly or indirectly on older knowledge. InteliTapping allows us to connect with the oldest, yet most complete source of knowledge.” (10) |
Alas, but does this statement not lead to the obvious question of 'Where does this older knowledge come from? If it were intuited then why must we tap when we can simply intuit?'
Tap is intuit.
I did some more checking on Mumford and there are many ways he saw the future and he also dealt with the effect of the Oracles on the development of culture in cities.
| QUOTE (Trip like I do @ Sep 24, 03:04 PM) |
| Besides I do not even know what the Delphi Oracle is. I was hoping Denkless would be kind enough to inform me but all I received was complete rudeness in response, so phuck him, ballless weiner. |
How can I be kind enough?
Above you clearly indicated that you consider me as illiterate Oriental Bastard, man of one book, with bad knowledge of English Grammar, expressing un-intelligible garble, ballless weiner etc.
How such a stupid person as I can inform you about anything?
Besides if you does not know what is Delphi Oracle it means you know nothing about History of Old Greece. So we have nothing to talk about.
I thought that any literate White man from the West have to have knowledge about history of Old Greece. At least about periods of Solon and Pericles.
Many years will pass and you will seriously regret for such behavior.
But that unfortunately will be too late.
"Croesus, an ancient king of Lydia, asked the oracle at Delphi to foresee the outcome of his attempt to conquer the Persian Empire. The oracle, as clever as always, issued the following prophesy: "If you attack the Persians, you will destroy a mighty empire." In this sentence, the expression "mighty empire" was used in an ambiguous way. The way Croesus understood the expression was not even close to the way the oracle of Delphi intended it. What the oracle meant by "mighty empire" was the empire of Lydia whose king was Croesus himself, not the empire of Persia, as Croesus understood. So, Croesus, acting on his mistaken understanding of the expression "a mighty empire", did destroy a mighty empire, but it was his own. I also believe that Croesus understood the term "destroy" from the prophetic message too narrowly, because the oracle intended it to mean both "destroy" and "self-destroy".
Source: The History of Herodotus (Chicago/London/Toronto: Encyclopaedia Britannica Inc., 1952), 11."
Source: The History of Herodotus (Chicago/London/Toronto: Encyclopaedia Britannica Inc., 1952), 11."
Come on Enki, give it up. Do you have a hard on for westerners or something? I tried to placate your sensitivity in past posts but one may as well piss in the wind. I would like you to inform me of what the delphi oracle is. I could simply look for myself, but I would like to give you the opportunity to converse and express in a rational and informative way. Your threats do nothing for me, for if the sh*t ever went down, I do believe that I would come out on top. I have had plenty of battle royals and a little 'oriental bastard' (quoting you) [unless you are Bruce Lee] would not mount much of a challenge. Trust me, I've kicked alot of your western bretheren's ass and if I have to kick one more it won't phase me one bit. Talk the talk and walk the walk is and always was and always will be my motto (unless it can be avoided and used a last resort).
I prefer not to play rough for I am not a kid out on the monkey bars anymore which obviously you are and can't progress and evolve, which is extremely unfortunate.
Insight as opposed to incite.
P.S. I know your tactical approach here and realize what you are attempting to do. For now I will play along (it will get old quick though) so 'PLEASE' just evovle and take a more intellectually mature approach to forum dialogue where learned data is passed freely amongst members without all the 'in your face' comments. If not, go join a Eastern forum and stop badgering us here.
I prefer not to play rough for I am not a kid out on the monkey bars anymore which obviously you are and can't progress and evolve, which is extremely unfortunate.
Insight as opposed to incite.
P.S. I know your tactical approach here and realize what you are attempting to do. For now I will play along (it will get old quick though) so 'PLEASE' just evovle and take a more intellectually mature approach to forum dialogue where learned data is passed freely amongst members without all the 'in your face' comments. If not, go join a Eastern forum and stop badgering us here.
The last recorded Oracle, which was in 362 AD, was a message to the Pagan Emperor, Julian the Spostate, which said "Go tell the King, the well-wrought hall has fallen in the dust; Phoebus Apollo no longer has a home or laurel, or a murmuring spring. Even the talkative spring has dried up and is no more".
Right on, that's what I'm after. Not to insult or hurt. I just want to learn. I definately don't know everything but I do know somethings and I am willing to share if you are. I am not racist or do I have any prejudices towards any specific cultures. I have had many ethnic friends and am always open to acquiring new ones, even Stenki little oriental bastards. Ha! Ha!
All mighty empires eventually fall as proven throughout history. And most Westerner's realize that. When 911 happened all the buzz was that the American Empire was now on the downturn, The Erection of the Twin Towers being its symbolic pinacle. However, I am not American, I am Canadian. Do not get them confused, for we are a peace loving country, but if we have to kick ass we can and will.
The most interesting in Delphi Oracle is its disappearance and this specific last message is interesting too.
The disappearance of the Delphi Oracle and constriction of the first Christian temple supported by state were parallel and remarkable processes.
The disappearance of the Delphi Oracle and constriction of the first Christian temple supported by state were parallel and remarkable processes.
Thus I come back to the initial questions of this thread
Delphi Oracle
1). Does Something Performing Functions of the Delphi Oracle (SPFDO) is an imperative element of progress of any civilization?
2). Does our brain always need to get ‘words’ of that SPFDO [some kind of Neuro Push (perturbation)] to progress in its development and pass to new level of reality perception?
3). What can be considered as the contemporary SPFDO?
4). Can the SPFDO to be considered as Source of Correlation (SC)?
5). Can we say that the society always needs a Source of Correlation [e.g. as the most simple example of SC we can consider Magnificent Gothic temple at the middle of the city which curves does shape mentality of the people of a city. “ ‘First we construct buildings then buildings construct us.” Sir Winston Churchill”]?
Delphi Oracle
1). Does Something Performing Functions of the Delphi Oracle (SPFDO) is an imperative element of progress of any civilization?
2). Does our brain always need to get ‘words’ of that SPFDO [some kind of Neuro Push (perturbation)] to progress in its development and pass to new level of reality perception?
3). What can be considered as the contemporary SPFDO?
4). Can the SPFDO to be considered as Source of Correlation (SC)?
5). Can we say that the society always needs a Source of Correlation [e.g. as the most simple example of SC we can consider Magnificent Gothic temple at the middle of the city which curves does shape mentality of the people of a city. “ ‘First we construct buildings then buildings construct us.” Sir Winston Churchill”]?
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