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Robert the Bruce
Come to my woman's breasts, and take my milk for gall, you murdering ministers, wherever in your sightless substances you wait on nature's mischief! (Lady Macbeth, I.v)
Robert the Bruce
In this quote we see the abject GALL of 'murdering ministers' and the ministrations of the BEES as well as the respect Willie had for a woman - I believe is the person who mentored him and helped Bacon write much of his work.

Bacon was a Stuart BEE or Royal group that includes the Hibernians and goes back to Miletus where the Perpetual Sailors who are just like the Bilderberg Rothschild/ De Medicis NWO group that is still in charge to this day.
Jasper
So then Bob, I take you believe Willie and Francis to be brothers in arms so to speak.
Hmmm....But if so then, why is one well very known, and the other not much known at all: Willy I mean here, as nothing concrete has ever floated to surface, which in actuality proves he existed whatsoever, other than just a per name on a few measly poems and plays!

Seems much alike saying Aristole and Plato were Socratic sisters, where the source of maternalism is suspect only to reference of or in the scripture of both sisters...hmmmmm...or hemlock!

Now a finer example would be the association between Descartes and Princess Elizabeth.....concimitant,complimentary, or coincidence! Yet in fact , she was a much finer philosoper than Descarte was a very sloppy mathematician! And Elizabeth Brownings bed ridden body and soul wrote all her theiving husbands works, as sure as Stuart Mills form of pure Male Liberty sold out the his purest wife Mary Wollencrofts first wave of feminist ideology! (my spelling questionable but my reference intent is very well targeted..all memory by the way)

Now I 'm not refuting what you claim here as maybe being a fact not as fact, but as in as fact is fact not bilateral coincidence, lines or lineage like this seem far worse than conspiracy, as fabric require cloth as much as cloth requires threads to make it all stick!
Maybe Willy had a sister and Francis had a wife with the same maiden name as willy!
Makes far more sense to me, as I consider history always forgets the true source of all mens creation and insipiration...but then that's not coincidence either, but imperical artefact!

Now Willy also may have very well been Sir Franic Bacons whore: Church fathers ruled with no mercy for anything other than religious peity and male diety. And buggery and prositution were the mainstays...or main meal...of all artisans and polemic writers way back when: Where even the Bishops and priests themselves, like Chardin, Berkley, and Bacon, were brutalised for speaking out about anything unloyal to the faith or ungeocentric in the interests of the faiths greater good...hmmmm!

Good god man, imagine being such an ungodly creature as a female whore who'd mastered the art of pen and word far better than the limp sword dear old Joan of Arc weilded ...and burned for?
So then, a new conspiracy enters with loads of concrete facts here and I directly challenge you to prove Willy wasn't female?
Modern Woman, an old book by Thompson and Thompson, might throw your research light into some very uninteresting curved man-eggs, as all women of substance did way back when was read, write, and talk while knitting with each others sameness! And they were the true source and masters of all domestic parity, charity, dowry and domain..not men! But then so did the impoversihed women whom also seeked to learn how to bring All Men down to size, moreso than to speak!

Respect Jasper
Jasper
PS: Latin, Greek, all other than english language, do not translate into pure english very well at all. Unless of course the writer is present to translate meant and intent. But then one might say "french fry" whereas and he says "chips"?
And the word "Gall", to me , sounds like a femme-coined term as, to me, opposities never preach the same regime language. And as all code needs proper reference as well as defineable syntax before proceeding to translate, even The Bible dribbles all over the platform upon which it....hmmm...strands?
"Kant and The Platypus" by Umberto Eco may help you there!

Jasper
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Come to my woman's breasts, and take my milk for gall, you murdering ministers, wherever in your sightless substances you wait on nature's mischief! (Lady Macbeth, I.v)

Now reconsider whom's sex wrote this: womans breast and her milk is mine as I am female and you are a murdering male slithering from within a nature whom I'm nutured with my milk.
Hmmmm...interesting?
Jasper
Robert the Bruce
Dear Jasper

Much more literate responses and quite well presented with a growing style - kudos to you!

In my research on Willy for a book done over 13 years ago that a UCLA professor who I never met said was the best work on Shakespeare he ever saw; I can say that Willy and Francis screwed anything that moved although Francis was a pederast as you suggest.

But Willy was definitely a guy and was married to Anne Hathaway. I really do not believe either of them deserves the credit for what they did - to the extent that they are given it - and you will have to read that book to understand why. It is called Bacon and the Bard and you can get it for just $5. at World-Mysteries.com.

I loved the movie on the Barretts of Wimpole Street.

Jasper
That was you first mispresumption of whom I be or what I study in my own name and for its own idenity. My qua, if you like; but I prefer Aqua as the A disassociates it as to my belief as I, and not as mine as in others. And your second was to affilate me with anything to with male or female whatsoever as all matter simply matters to I not us!

Now that's clear and well stated: Pederasty was also coverted or permitted by the church to cover much of church fathers actual and physical rape of women which was a hideous act of biblical treason....so let just go confess to God it was a male we just sodomised and all's forgiven without hailing her as Mary!
Woman, who's idenity the church despises and still does, is always demonised for ungodly or unvitueous purposes. And such disrespect emminates, and still enculturates withinin, from the revelations that both EVE and the virgin Mary were a litlle dickinfranchised (correct) without a proportionate cannonisation prospectus...or handle to offer, if you prefer? Yet all one did was offer her other a little shinny red fur covered apple for taste, while the other popped her cherry for much the same lessers reasons...and all disrespect for their abomination well meant by me also!
But as both can be denounced as well as fortified by immaculate conception, my challenge of Willy's manhood still stands as is Bruce.

Now I note you are well eductated, so kudos to you. But then I did mine for myself for I and by myself with I's. In fact, I was even throw out of University heaven after just 12 months for simply questioning things far too much in all disciplines from Mathematics to Philosophy...they called me far too intense to handle....but then it was them whom hit the bottle to cope, not me!
So then, so much for Academic quailty, as I've always found them to be the most sour of all nuts to try to swallow when cracked. But then I did say previously, ' I come fully equiped with an atomic shovel and wasn't affraid of closets neither".
I'm starting to actually like you Bob: But as like or love achieves nothing ( re:Adam & EVE, Mary and Jesus) as focus is lost when immotive, let 's accept respect as given between us and spare neither no mercy whatsoever for the absolute truth here...no 'as if' is either as reductionism made us both as we are or other to begin with...and I refer to understanding or not here!

PS: Simply ask and I will always tell you my truths;but forsake or take without understanding and I use my shovel to remove the ground from beneath my own feet, and open the goddammed closet the right way up...which is male and only a mere poet by the way!


Respect (which means always and always both) Jasper

You little cutie, now lets play by no one rules, where no rules apply to anything but a search for only the truth, if possible.... Existentialism at and in it finest...love that title!



Robert the Bruce
Dear Jasper

I have no idea what presumption you are prattling on about. Also if you wish to have a dialogue there is no need to make it mysterious or open to many possible and conflicting interpretations.

I am not well educated if you mean formal education though I did test out of a degree and was entered into a Master's Program. I learned little in school.
Jasper
Than you for asking, but it was I whom I refered to as being uneducated, not you, and I very also am uninterested in institutions or prattle of kind at any time.
See Bob, it's all in the translation...so stay on your horse!

So now we both know we have more in common than not, consider this word 'Gall'?
Gallantry, Gallant...shorthand...Gall: Gall bladder, Bile..Bileous..swill..vomit....but apllicable only to macho or maleness: or is it?
It seems to me the other or same-opposite, I refer to here, was more in fact Willy's other, than either his sister or Willy as himself!
A more recent and similar simile, termed and coined by recent feminist literature, would be Valourisation:which means but nothing to femininity unless when it's extrapolated from or into the maleness intent of "to dominate all principles of human reason within a patriachal verility: Which is also in fact due to Conte and Lockes slap in womb claims that "All Title needs to be ploughed to be held in onus of the tittle by ownership itself, which is premitted and recognised only when a thing is to be maintained by force, and or by force and effect!
Now if I flip you over to the church fathers here once again, one compares marriage as the very same force and effect which still maintains and stunts Woman's equality as inferior always to that of males whom simply plough them as possessions not persons!

Again, and just this once more before I become totally uninterested with your misunderstandings of me, I appologise!

Consider...Willy says "To be or not to be"
Jasper says bull waffle as "To be is to be not": which means don't be what you don't recognise oneself to be in reality!
See : A mid Summer nights Dream for details: But there is no dream of day in the middle of a summer's night , and Willy was far more complicated than ever imagined...or too simple!
But then he never met me now as I either, and I can't be bothered reading what my past life tells me I innately already know: and this statements of mine, as fact or fiction Bob, doesn't matter to anyone but me and my truth! I've never read Willy at all, other than seeing the movie I mentioned...fact!

What Willy really talks about in Midsummer Nights Dream, is a total Eclipse of the Sun, or the Sons originator: pure woman,....and the total emancipation of all women Bob!
IE: the king of imps turned into Mute Mule to prove his dick was far to dominant of his own mind for the wanton queen of fairies...hmmm...privates! But size never mattered to her....only men...see G. Greer's Female Uniche for more de-tailing of the femme- perfunction!

Willy wrote only pure Satires, some alike Fellini's, and my art is to know how exactly to figure them out. And being to overtrained in anything is not good for the any truth to an over trained mind
My favourite movies, by the way, are Clockwork Orange, Chocolat, Punch Drunk Love and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon...and no pun intended either, as all 4 movies allow the viewer every sensual scope to complete it's unfinished business within their own framework and time!


Respect Jasper
Jasper
QUOTE (Jasper @ Oct 29, 05:59 PM)
Thank you for asking, but it was I whom I refered to as being uneducated, not you, and I very also am uninterested in institutions or prattle of kind at any time.
See Bob, it's all in the translation...so stay on your horse!

So now we both know we have more in common than not, consider this word 'Gall'?
Gallantry, Gallant...shorthand...Gall: Gall bladder, Bile..Bileous..swill..vomit....but apllicable only to macho or maleness: or is it?
It seems to me the other or same-opposite, I refer to here, was more in fact Willy's other, than either his sister or Willy as himself!
A more recent and similar simile, termed and coined by recent feminist literature, would be Valourisation:which means but nothing to femininity unless when it's extrapolated from or into the maleness intent of "to dominate all principles of human reason within a patriachal verility: Which is also in fact due to Conte and Lockes slap in womb claims that "All Title needs to be ploughed to be held in onus of the tittle by ownership itself, which is premitted and recognised only when a thing is to be maintained by force, and or by force and effect!
Now if I flip you over to the church fathers here once again, one compares marriage as the very same force and effect which still maintains and stunts Woman's equality as inferior always to that of males whom simply plough them as possessions not persons!

Again, and just this once more before I become totally uninterested with your misunderstandings of me, I appologise!

Consider...Willy says "To be or not to be"
Jasper says bull waffle as "To be is to be not": which means don't be what you don't recognise oneself to be in reality!
See : A mid Summer nights Dream for details: But there is no dream of day in the middle of a summer's night , and Willy was far more complicated than ever imagined...or too simple!
But then he never met me now as I either, and I can't be bothered reading what my past life tells me I innately already know: and this statements of mine, as fact or fiction Bob, doesn't matter to anyone but me and my truth! I've never read Willy at all, other than seeing the movie I mentioned...fact!

What Willy really talks about in Midsummer Nights Dream, is a total Eclipse of the Sun, or the Sons originator: pure woman,....and the total emancipation of all women Bob!
IE: the king of imps turned into Mute Mule to prove his dick was far to dominant of his own mind for the wanton queen of fairies...hmmm...privates! But size never mattered to her....only men...see G. Greer's Female Uniche for more de-tailing of the femme- perfunction!

Willy wrote only pure Satires, some alike Fellini's, and my art is to know how exactly to figure them out. And being to overtrained in anything is not good for the any truth to an over trained mind
My favourite movies, by the way, are Clockwork Orange, Chocolat, Punch Drunk Love and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon...and no pun intended either, as all 4 movies allow the viewer every sensual scope to complete it's unfinished business within their own framework and time!


Respect Jasper

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