And I do not understand, why that simple example related with Petros death so excited you. It is just a coincidence. Right?

So yes or not?

It 'excited' me because it is full of deceitful dogma just as your last few comments are about Jesus, lambs, and eternal oblivion.

These triggering mechanisms so evident in your postings (not just here) are the fundamental (and fundamentalist) mindset that has influenced you even though you do not appear to know where your nickname originates or what it means.

And no - I do not think that they used a message with that numerological manipulation to exactly order operatives to do the deed. They do employ astrologers and numerologists to give direction on appropriate times to make such things occur perhaps though. It is possible that they used such a simple code to convey the time to carry out a pre-arranged act but the pre-arrangement is the actual Control or Terrorist activity not the time.

If you were to do your Manual - and spend a lifetime doing it - you would not exhaust all the codes or message means that exist - I suggest.

I presume this 'unknown' is Enki.

When she/he/it suggests others should not bring the name of Jesus about - after having brought it up already - we see a disturbing situation and a likely prospect for a martyr type of terrorist. This obsessive need to be something other than 'living in eternal oblivion' is a designed myth or fiction that the myth-makers know will occur in a certain demographic percentage of people. They can count on sensitives or what they might label with other symptoms of disorders - to act out a rather grisly event or three before they go off to meet the virgins (Is it 72 of them?) in their Heaven or whatever Rapture they promote.

You might take note of the deconstructing of phrases and triggers in these communications and look into the Semiotic scholar named Jacques Derrida.

No can follow what you are getting at here with these words. If you are suggesting I fear 'eternal oblivion' as you say you do - you are most definitely wrong.

So why you do not say Yes, if these all is stupidity? Or you doubt?
If you doubt, maybe you fear to satisfy your curiosity by too high cost?

Ok we do not understand each other. And let us stop this.

I have no nickname. It is the name my father gave me - and my last name is far more noble - Baird. Though not in terms of nobility per se.

But the names we choose or the names we are given are powerful symbols attracting energy to us. For my part I did not know a lot of the shady intrigues associated with Robert the Bruce until I started serious research.

This is my response to someone about the 9-11 article by Holmgren.

Dear BD

Did I claim that the initial post is not SPIN? No. I think it is humor mostly.

Yes, I agree all POVs have bias or SPIN. The Spin-doctors who have unlimited reach and funding are the ones that hire people like your academic - the rest of us have to use our noggins.

To that end - why on earth do you say it would require 40 years of a conspiracy involving all those parties? It may have been a truck with a small atomic device in the parking lot. It could have been just high explosives with a timer or remote activation device for someone like those Mossad agents watching and cheering. After all we certainly can see Israel has benefitted greatly as this proceeds and their leader Sharon is not being thrown in prison for his war crimes too. Once the planes hit and a certain amount of damage is done I imagine the detonation of a much smaller amount of explosive than they had done before would have created what happened if it was situated near the CORE structural supports - but again we could use our architectural student's input who probably has talked to his professors - and whose insight is at least as good as an engineer working on bridges or other structures.

The Mossad and US agencies are PROVEN and admit having back-doored Canada's computers for an eight year period. This is NOT spin - it is fact! I suggest that the people like the man whose link you supplied is just like the MWAFIO generals my brother studies with and works for. My brother received a US medal for the recovery effort he managed in the aftermath of the 9-11 bombing or attack. He even thinks there might be some merit to the missile theory on the Pentagon - but I do not. I say it does not matter - we need only look to why the planes from Langley were not up in a protective umbrella to shoot down anything that threatened Washington a great deal of time after it was clear something was happening. Any idiot should be able to ask for a clear answer on this. I liken it to the destruction of the Kennewick Man site and 60 Minutes not even being able to find the person who authorized that grievous display of arrogant destruction of history (which is prologue to the present).

You might remember that internal memo from the late 1940s which you thought was pure BS. It laid out the nature of the real governance you and those like you keep telling people like me is not a conspiracy. A conspiracy is a PLAN. We need some real plans to make this a better world.

When I presented you with the memo and its provenance you (graciously) admitted your mistake and yet you know you have many people in your groups who have unfairly labeled me or attacked the message of 'real thought' that I bring - yes/no? I dare to say my biases are minimal and I have no belief system whatsoever - but those who attack me have all manner of sacred cows. And I get attacked by both sides because I tell truth and deliver facts.

Whoa, trip like I do, was that a stutter?

Okay I'm seeing things, there was something there a minute ago.

Just what does 'ENKI' stand for?

Was that a trigger word for u RTB?

I am thankful to all members of this forum for their valuable comments to thread so interesting for me.

Dear Unknown - I prefer not to answer Unknowns unless I can guess who they are.

Here is some disinfo on Enki.


http://www.geocities.com/darkistrein666/

Disinfo on which one?

You got a call from your brother?

C'mon, step out on a ledge and live life on the edge.

You suggest to have winter vocation in Cuba?

Fast-mapping - is the process by which children map a word onto an underlying concept after only one exposure to the word.

Holophrases - are single-word utterances that appear to function as sentences.

The deep structure of a sentence consists of its underlying meaning.

The surface structure of a sentence consists of the word arrangement used to express this meaning (what people actually say).

Languages are symbolic, semantic, generative, and structured. Human languages are structured hierarchically.

The theory of linguistic relativity asserts that language determines thought, thus suggesting that people from different cultures may think about words somewhat differently.

What of fractal analysis and fractal literacy?
Word-matrixs' within word-matrixs'.

'T' it up, Enki.

To apply fractal analysis successfully it is important to obtain fractal literacy. The lack of clarity lies in the fact that many in the first category, being entrenched within a specific linguistic boundary and possessing fractal literacy, find it hard to communicate the necessary information to researchers in a different research field with a different subject literacy.

Mnemonic encoding?

http://www.gatewaystobabylon.com/myths/tex...amenteridu.html

....11-18 Its king stayed outside his city as if it were an alien city. He wept bitter tears. Father Enki stayed outside his city as if it were an alien city. He wept bitter tears. For the sake of his harmed city, he wept bitter tears. Its lady, like a flying bird, left her city. The mother of E-mah, holy Damgalnuna, left her city. The divine powers of the city of holiest divine powers were overturned. The divine powers of the rites of the greatest divine powers were altered. In Eridug everything was reduced to ruin, was wrought with confusion...

Enki

Enki was a god in the Sumerian mythology, later known as Ea. The main temple to Enki was in Eridu. His symbols included a goat and a fish, which later combined into a single beast, the Capricorn, which became one of the signs of the zodiac.

Male presence, god of water and the creation. He had sexual relations with his female kids during various generations.

In the science fiction book "Snow Crash", by Neal Stephenson, he is portrayed as a proto-hacker.

Enki is a Japanese for postpone.

Enki also controlled the 'Me', holy decrees that governed such basic things as physics and complex things such as social order and law.

Me is a concept in the cosmology of Sumerian mythology which describes the discrete bestowal of each of the arts and sciences by the gods to humans.

Dear BD

If you were to place one set of charges where would you place it?

I would place it near the central support structure. I think an explosion moves quickly outwards in a UNIFORM manner to all sides and the weakness at the base of the buildings is what led to the uniform collapse rather than weakness at higher floors. Thus what we witnessed seemed like what Willow and others have said - about it being pulled down or pancaking.

That does not mean I think it is as important as the lack of response to the second plane and I even wonder about the timing when they could have known it was off course in the case of the first one.


But again (other than the insider trading, and subsequent revelations about Bush-Bin Laden as well as the fact that we all know Bin Laden was a CIA operative still helpful in the Balkans up to the point of Clinton's attack on Somalia) the lack of Langley air cover is the most telling thing to me.

O'Neill (according to a very good documentary I saw on TV) had specifically identified and told all he was connected with - Al Qaeda was going to do this. That is why he became head of WTC security after he was set up and back-stabbed by FBI people with serious ass-kissing tendencies to more powerful people outside the agency.

Also I find the whole idea of waging war on victims of the corporate culture in global economic management is problematical. We should be addressing fundamental inequities and the centralization of governance and power. We should be developing ways to break down religious fundamentalism. We should be enhancing equal rights for women among all who trade with US as Carter tried to do.

By measuring our successes through reduced cultural differences brought about through armed intervention we are adopting a tried and true method for continued strife. Continued strife benefits the elites who have an International footprint and control. Of course (as Chomsky documents) these same international consortiums have improved their positions greatly throughout the last century. They can avoid taxes or get money from governments by providing jobs. The funny thing is they also get to charge slave labor rates in many cases. We could also insist on population reduction programs in our trading partners who we provide any real assistance to.

But the best assistance would be technological sharing and development of FREE ENERGY as I see it. When we protect drug company patents and reduce the ability of consumers to sue these companies (Patriot Act II brought about due to 9-11) we further ensure the dominating control weilded by these international financial empire-builders. When we allow shelving of things like Tesla Energy by J. P. Morgan (Rothschild/De Medicis agent) we ensure centralized big business is the most efficient capital structure.

Who is BD, and what that all garbage of words is for in this thread?
Hmmmm Mr. RTB?

The above 'unknown' is moi.

The garbage you refer to relates to the Holmgren piece on 9-11 as well as the video In Plane Site. I placed the Holmgren article in this thread - because unlike the trash that Enki thinks is Terrorism this illustrates the real terrorists in high places.

In the absence of proof - we all must speculate (think). And it has been speculated that you are indeed a terrorist type.

I want to warn you, that if you continue in such a manner to badge on people such definitions, the destiny may dare to play sarcastic trick in a specific speculative manner.

When the sh*t goes down, you better be ready?

You say:

the destiny may dare to play sarcastic trick in a specific speculative manner.

I say:

Threats from terroists do not phase me one iota. I do not live in fear of 'eternal oblivion' (Quoting you) nor do I believe in such terrorist concepts.

To: Trip like I do
I do not understand what you want to know?

When I was registering on forum there was not any option about identification.
And I just wanted to mention that my CV is not something special, so I do not claim anything special. And that is all. As I said I am just Enki.

Maybe people on this forum have tradition to identify themselves, that is OK. That is good western tradition. Good western tradition, for western people. That is good tradition for free people. You can enjoy that tradition on your own without imparting it to others.
Thanks for taking care about others freedom so much.

I just want to know, relatively speaking, just who is imparting Enki's words on this forum, so as to gain a better perspective of whom I'm in dialogue with. Its not a Western vs. Eastern concept. It's a universal concept.

Can you warp your noggin around that concept?

Enlightening the unenlightened.

Not killing. Instilling.

lol,

I like carrots, literally and as the dangling kind. Don't rabbits like carrots?

Dear Enki

At this juncture it appears you do not see the nature of the warning you gave which was directed at me. Perhaps you also like be The International Man of Mystery (Austin Powers you are - eh?). However, when you simply avoid clarifications or deflect answers such as you do when you infer because I am not living in fear like you - that I MUST be 'happy'. You also infer you live in a 'Western' place where I can be happy. Actually that comes through loud and clear in another post in response to Trip.

But in point of fact if you were to inform yourself - I doubt very much that there is any place in the world that is as dismal as where I live. Actually there are some prisons in Mexico and Iran that sound a lot worse.

For though I could take the kind of life I led for the majority of my adult life and continue it - I have chosen to be what the 'Western' authorities call 'a danger to society' and indeed I hope to become a lot MORE dangerous to those authorities. I have explained my circumstances here before - but I understand you do not read other people's threads much and you enjoy playing terrorist on this thread.

I sincerely doubt you can not simply stop the programming that causes your fears (such as stated by you 'eternal oblivion') - I did. It has nothing to do with where you live. It has everything to do with knowing yourself.