I've been witnessing some conversations regarding the application of consciousness in science and whether it actually influences matter.

The biggest argument is in whether consciousness is real and can it be measured in a controlled condition and then applied to Quantum Physics.

So far the Scientists say emphatically no. They don't deny the possibility of spirtiual influences in the human condition or the influence being something real but so far there is no one who would step across the line of separation between the two.

Any comment for or against the merging of the two systems of science or belief?

Does anyone know of anyone or any group who is taking Science beyond the rigid borders that has any credibility?

So far the scientism paradigm stinkers say no - emphatically.

Real scientists who have to account for what is actually OBSERVED categorically have been right about the mind influencing matter and I have posted replicable experiments that prove it. Tiller of Stanford, Masaru Emoto and the water crystals as reported upon by science editors as well as NASA studies of a man who lives off sunlight and many many amounts of proof including the work of Lazslo in my thread which I started off with called The Thalami and Third Eye. Bohm to Wigner and many more are on the right and open side of the issue versus what Kaku calls 'know-nothing scientists'.

The big question given all the higher standards of proof that exist for unseen action at a distance and what has been called paranormal is this: - why do people continue to listen to the crap that paradigm DENIAL of soul science has engaged in along with their POPE who is trying to say he is the infallible and only representative of some lord while still engaging in such war mongering acts as Dominus Iesus.

The worlds of science are merged with the magic of the past adepts beyond the writings of Nobel Laureates in physics you may have found exciting in your youth, as I did. Wigner, Schrödinger and his cat, Heisenberg 'Observed', and Capra has 'Tao-ed' a lot about the Mandukya Upanishads and S-Matrix math being linked with the I Ching (Tao te Ching). Soon science will know 'The Way' (Tao) made possible by the 'white light'. NEC labs in Princeton, New Jersey produced 300X the speed of light in the summer of 2000, inside a cesium chamber. This was the missing ontological proof required to make evidence of the necessary level required in science for the existence of 'psi phenomena'.
Beyond the wildest imaginations of quantum teleporting (Scientific American April 2001 Cover story) and the Big Bang, is the connection true 'love' brings. Thank you, Buddy Holly! John Lennon has 'Imagine’-d a new mantra for the quantum global village and a post-Modern Age that allows people the leisure time to contemplate what pre-Industrial Age Society already knew. When factories needed people to work long hours at machines they instituted education for all people, so that 'time clocks' could be punched and productivity could be measured. The prior travesties of the Inquisitions and Dark Ages were relaxed in order to enable a greater control over the minds of people. "The past and the future can be changed."(1)
From the Mahabharata to the Iliad we see the hand of higher beings who played god with mere mortals wrapped in their egoistic emphasis on the dross physical senses that greedily take so much energy away from soulful pursuits. Just because time appears linear does not make it any truer than the appearance the eyes of an owl recognizes when it sees in dimensions of energy our more limited eyes cannot capture. Perhaps an even more relevant acquisition technology in the animal kingdom has to do with how insects and birds find their way back to a specific territory or 'home'. Neils Bohr said something like this: - 'A great truth has an opposite which is also true. A trivial truth has an opposite which is false.'
Ninety-five per cent of all the energy in the universe is made up of Dark Energy or Dark Matter. This is a scientific fact recently discovered but not considered in the everyday working world of most academic disciplines. It was always useful to those ‘in the know’ and the Eastern Mystical schools used by Illuminati are part of what we must study in order to understand how Chhi and Shakti can build dimensional constructs. Here is a response to a Mason who I asked about making those ‘constructs’. He avoids saying he cannot actually DO the ‘travel’ he once asked me if I did.
You did not say whether they teach how to do what these 'offshoots' are able to do. If you cannot DO what is done (i.e.: make those deceptive 'constructs') then you are deceived or infiltrated as they say of many 'clandestine' types that have promoted Masonry. I know St. Germain (Rothschild/De Medicis) is still openly taught from in your craft but there are few (!) and really none in Masonry who know the tune their drummer is weaving.
It is an ancient art - the Great Architect's - since before Melchizedek and his tutelage of Abraham.
ML + chhi and the Zadokites are in charge. ML or Milesians (Stuart Royals and Hibernians) use the energy of the Cosmic Soup (chhi and Praha of Jan Hus) to make many zealots (Zadokites) do their bidding.
Lao-Tzu went to the west of his native China as he approached his death; in order to meet the Ancient Adept Masters who we believe are those Red-Heads of the Tarim Basin/Taklamakan Desert/Altaic Mountains near the greatest recent Empire's Khan - Temujin's homeland or birthplace. You can see photos of these 6'6" 'giants with their witch’s hats in Discovery, National Geographic or The Mummies of Urumchi. The reason they had a pyramidal witch’s hat was to focus cosmic energy to their pineal glands.
Lao-Tzu is one of history's greatest philosophers and religious personages. He knew these adepts had power to affect the Trojan War and all people on earth by means never written as the Verbal Tradition was aware of the dangers of interpreters with partial knowledge and fewer ethical constructs. Today these same hats are called 'dunce caps' as teachers teach the prejudices of ego and power-mongering proselytes and politicians.

Peer Review - and that is what? Paradigm paid mouthpieces. Tiller was the chair of Material Sciences and there are many others. Because you are not informed does not mean the facts do not exist. But you simply proclaim 'emphatically' no less - that you are right and real science is wrong. Surely you know that science often is wrong and admits it and yet until they are forced to admit it they say these things are absolute constants - light speed. matter and anti-matter co-existing, entropy as the only fact, Newtonian Mechanics, and even Relativity with no variation.

Are you like the Patent Office Official in Washington a century ago who proclaimed all that could be discovered is already known? Ot perhaps you are like S-A as they said the Wright Brothers did not fly for three years after the FACT? The list is endless and still they teach people THEY know the facts and ask you to regurgitate those facts until you have spent so much time at it you start to think it must be true.

I'm just passing along what is said, not my viewpoint.

I am sure I put this here before - and the fact that I put it here again does not mean anyone will read it and debate the facts rather than say they interpret what some peer review board said to be truer than the actual researchers who demonstrate 'rigorously' through experimentation what is happening over and over again.

MIND OVER MATTER – PROVEN:
The following quote is a review I found on Amazon.com for a book I have only read about but seems to confirm many other things. The book is written by a former Chair of Material Sciences at Stanford and I think it fits the work of Dr. Don Robins as well as other Intelligent Design researchers we have discussed.
“Mind Over Matter -- Proven!, June 11, 2002
Reviewer: Dave Stein, Scientific Editor, Frontier Perspectives
In striking contrast with many books focused on next-generation physics, mathematics, biology, psychology, or medicine, Conscious Acts of Creation combines a brilliant theoretical model with several rigorous experiments that explore the influence of human intention on physical reality - in living as well as inanimate systems. It is in these convincing demonstrations that the principle "as above, so below" comes to life. Even more profoundly, the book establishes that repetition of the experiments in given locales can dramatically increase the power of the locales to reproduce the results - with some locales retaining their conditioning or "charge" for more than a year! These findings lend plausibility to that which mystics know as "sacred space."
A postulated theoretical model provides a launch point for interpreting the experimental results. Its major cornerstone is an eight-dimensional biconformal base space with two four-dimensional, Fourier transform related subspaces. One subspace corresponds to our everyday world, whereas the other subspace is a reciprocal or inverse "etheric" space - roughly analogous to k-space but with additional postulated properties including superluminal "velocities" (presumably in inverse units) and interchanged roles of electricity and magnetism. The model incorporates nonlocality, a scientific principle that may someday prove to be the underpinning for phenomena such as parapsychology and distant healing. Furthermore, the authors note similarities between their model and models proposed by other scientists, some highly prominent. Granted, the model becomes more speculative when it associates even higher dimensionalities with emotion, mind, and spirit. Even then, however, it remains consistent with various esoteric teachings, and it may yet provide the empowering mechanism for manifestation of intention (where the two subspaces, in some ways mutually symmetric, appear to play asymmetric roles) and in otherwise connecting science with spirit. Readers who disagree with the postulated model will nonetheless benefit from the authors' brilliant insights.
Mysticism aside, the postulated "mind over matter" mechanisms include a possible role for variation in atomic and molecular ground state energies. The observed space conditioning is discussed in the context of gauge symmetries. Rounding out the model are the insightful discussions of augmented electromagnetism (which the authors associate with Qi), inner self-management techniques such as Qi Gong and Yoga, and even the existence of two phases of liquid water. In Chapters 9 and 10, the authors become futurists as they suggest possible implications of reciprocal space engineering for medicine, pharmacology, communications, and manufacturing.
On the experimental side, the authors set the example in thoroughness and scientific rigor, although the in-depth discussion of the protocols as well as the order of topics may impact the book's readability. A mitigating factor is the brilliant introduction to gauge theory and the elucidation of several other topics including self-sustained oscillations, crystallography, and reciprocal space. In fact, the book is a mini physics course that presents various principles of electromagnetism, thermodynamics, solid-state physics, and quantum mechanics in a readable and understandable way. Also included is a brilliant discussion of enzymes, coenzymes and the electron transport chain as they relate to the experiments.
Scientists, healers, and others who investigate or work with subtle energies will appreciate the authors' insights on repeatability of experimental results. In the mainstream scientific community, replication of results is a test for credibility; yet consistent results in healing, dowsing, remote viewing, and ESP are often elusive. Armed with successful demonstrations of space conditioning, the authors shed new light on this longstanding issue - although they discuss other factors, both geocosmic and human, that can also impact repeatability of results.
Conscious Acts of Creation makes a convincing case that the powerful effects of intention and emotion can no longer be disregarded - in healing, in scientific research, or even in everyday life. The authors' findings may indeed have profound consequences for the concept of scientific "objectivity." More significantly, this book will take the reader beyond the realm of the everyday world and will expand one's view of himself or herself as a co-creator of reality. It is for this reason that Conscious Acts of Creation is essential reading - not only for scientists, engineers, and health care practitioners (both mainstream and complementary) but also for others who seek to maximize their human experiences. Conscious Acts of Creation indeed heralds and points a way ahead for ‘the emergence of a new physics.’�
Of course there are many nay-sayers and other points of view about all the things quantum physics and String Theory have brought into the world where massive technological change is accelerating beyond even our wildest dreams.

Don't bother passing along a summary of something you did not study as if it has any merit - that is the nature of politicians who don't read the Bills they vote on and the nature of all so many things that are wrong in society.

Present the actual study by those peer reviewers and show how they proved that Emoto practiced some fraud or how they have an alternative explanation for what he produces over and over again.

I think the scientific community is still recoiling from the hoodwinking of physicists at Berkeley by Uri Geller. A professor (Taylor, I think it was) wrote a book called "Superminds" purporting to report and explain the remarkable mind-over-matter abilities of Geller. On later review it seems that Geller is more of an accomplished magician of the stage type.

Yes, the scientific community is reeling from Geller and the scienitific community that is reeling never undestood it to begin with. But scientists who do understand it continue to support the effects Geller produced even though he ONCE was caught in a sleight of hand trick.

Check out the harvard MRI/SPECT analysis which showed the Superior Parietal Lobe functioning as the mystics achieved tap-in state and how this confirms the mystics long held explanations.

cute quote Joesus: "it's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter"

But surely reality and common sense inform you that you don't possess a complete power of mind over matter, right?

To induce the full mystical experience would require the alteration of normal behavior in the Thalami as you suggest. To do this would also presume the state is physiological - it is likely not. The mystics say it has to do with a tap-in and the biofeedback machines do teach how to get to altered brain states but still not the kind of thing Harvard was studying with the gurus or U of I with Hank Wesselmann.

There is work under black budget funding by Dr. Laurence Persinger that you can sign a waiver on which tells you they cause mystical benefits. It is actually a guise to do thought cloning as I see it.

There are machines that can produce far better results than our justice system that use FMRI to ascertain false memory.

Laura Knight-Jadzyck is a contributor to sites like ParanormalNews and you can see some of my responses to her work. So far she and no others have responded as I find the site owner who asked me for stuff was probably thinking I supported some alien involvement. People hear what they want to hear and disregard the lack of support I have for alien involvement just because I do support and have experiences with back-engineers and other things. I think there are those who design CONSTRUCTS and these 'constructs' allow sensitives to pick up on certain myths or constructs they have created for purposes most foul. Her particular tap-ins are not verifiable by subsequent archaeological finds. An example of this is the cover-up construct called Atlantis which Cayce (a Mason) and Plato (A Noble of the Merovingian lineage I suspect) etc have used to diminish the fact of who their colonizers were. They WERE NOT aliens I assure you. It is such a useful game to them - they blame god (or Elohim aliens) for genocides and wars they created to make themselves more powerful.

You might also check out Robert Bruce's site Astralpulse. J. Z. Knight and Lobsang Rampa and many others are in the vein of Blavatsky and I take them only so far - again artifacts and history beat channeling all the time.

who's got a quarter? I wanna buy some!

Boredom sets in quickly doesn't it.....

under the sea, everything has been said.


Collectively, man sounds like a broken record player. And so I ask you all, when will this broken record produce a new tune?

When it makes a different choice.

I remember a friend about 40 years ago who thought anything that could be said or done had already been tried. He had a Philosophy Prof as an uncle, his father was an international political charicatirist and he had grown up in a home with a library of the best books. We spoke often and he tried to get me to do Brown Window Pane (LSD). I told him I would do it if he wrote a book with me. I told him that I could already do the 'trips' he and others did with drugs and I was in control of these trips but I was pretty sure I wouldn't be if I took LSD and that I might not come back - having read Cosmic Consciousness this same year by R. Marurice Bucke.

He was more afrain of actually DOing something worthwhile than I was of doing LSD - so neither of these things happened.

To know that which is not possible anymore (Post-Modernism)

Cosmic Consciousness is one of the more enlightening books I've read in a while. I often wonder if the info found within those pages are still relevant in today's Quantum universe. Could Bucke's (a turn of the century Canadian doctor from Ontario) Cosmic Consciousness be a parallel/metaphor for today's Quantum reality?

Will developing Quantum reality lift the whole of human life to that higher plane of existence that Bucke talked so vividly about?

I be the unknown from above.

The Bruce - Were you intelligebly enlightened while you were on LSD trips?

RTB has been organically endowed with his 'abilities', no drugs necessary

It is a result of interest in Learning and the JOY it brings. You should try to get to that stage some day.

Never did it - and you did not read what I wrote or else did too much LSD in you day.

Have you seen the movie Beautiful Dreamers about he an Whitman? Yes, the dimensional work is potentially the saving grace of mankind and all life in this event horizon.

Never meant to infer that you had. I mis-interpreted what you wrote. As for getting to that stage some day, is that not the purpose of this site or has that been mis-interpreted as well?

About 'Beautiful Dreamers', is this a movie that can be rented at the local vid store or is it a specialty item?

I am interested in the topic of quantum reality and the new potential social paradigm for I am an artist who works multi-dimensional in the painting genre and am persistently trying to get the concept of multi-dimensional reality across to both the intellectually informed and laymen alike.

Multi-dimensional space, macro cosmically vs. micro cosmically, and the next (or is it current?) spatial cognitive paragigm, Quantum cosciousness.

Bucke, Richard Maurice (1901). Cosmic Consciousness. New York: Innes & Sons.

Cosmic Consciousness (1901) – Richard Maurice Bucke, M.D.

The work of a Canadian doctor.

Developed an idea of a new consciousness as a mental evolution of mankind, where as it became increasingly common, and eventually general, it would lift the whole of human life to higher plane of existence.

During the formative years most men are having their originality suppressed and their opinions standardized by school and college routine.

Bucke was a student of the human mind, a psychologist, and he treated Illumination from the standpoint of psychology, as a very rare but definite and recognizable mental condition.

He considered that in the last three thousand years of human history, there were at least 14 undeniable cases of complete and permanent enlightenment, as well as other partial or temporary instances of Illumination.

Noticing the increase in frequency of experiences, he deduced that very gradually, the human race is in the process of developing a new kind of consciousness, far in advance of the ordinary human self-consciousness, which will eventually lift the human race above and beyond all the fears and ignorance’s, the brutalities and bestialities which beset it today.

He dealt with for distinct stages of consciousness observable in all living creatures: the perceptual mind of the lower animals, open only to sense impressions; the receptual mind of the higher animals, producing simple consciousness; the conceptual mind of human beings, accompanied by self-consciousness, and cosmic consciousness.

He shows that the human race has added several new kinds of consciousness over the evolution of time, i.e. colour sense, sense of fragrance, and musical sense.

Bucke argued that these new senses must have begun as sporadic, isolated instances of new awareness in a few individuals, and that they spread gradually with the passing of the generations until nearly all civilized races possessed them, though by no means to the same degree or completeness.

He himself had received temporary Illumination.

Contemporary William James once wrote of Bucke, “I believe that you have brought this kind of consciousness ‘home’ to the attention of the students of human nature… your book, dear Sir, is that it is an addition to psychology of first rate importance.”

Cosmic consciousness is a higher form of consciousness than that possessed by the ordinary man. The upper half of the animal kingdom possesses simple consciousness. Man possesses self-consciousness. Cosmic consciousness, in addition to the other two, is a third and higher consciousness.

Language is the objective of which self-consciousness is the subjective.

In the evolution of the intellect there are four distinct steps: The first of them was taken when the primary quality of excitable sensations were established. At this point began the acquisition and perfect registration of sense impressions, percepts.

A percept is a sense impression – a sound that is heard or an object that is seen and the impressions they make are percepts.

Individually and generation by generation the primordial brain accumulated these percepts, the constant repetition of which, calling for further and further registration led, in the struggle for existence and, under the law of natural selection, to an accumulation of cells in the central sense ganglia; the multiplication of cells made further registration possible; that, again, made further growth of the ganglia necessary, and so on.

At last a condition was reached in which it became possible for our ancestor to combine groups of these percepts into a recept. Similar percepts are registered one over the other until they are generalized into one compound percept or a recept, something that has been received.

Now the work of accumulation begins again on a higher plane of existence where the sensory organs keep steadily at work manufacturing percepts; the receptual centres keep steadily at work manufacturing more and yet more recepts from the old and the new percepts; the capacities of the central ganglia are constantly taxed to do the necessary registration of recepts; then as the ganglia by use and selection are improved they constantly manufacture from percepts and from the initial simple recepts, more and more complex, that is, higher and higher recepts.

After many thousands of generations have lived and died, comes a time when the mind has reached the highest possible point of purely receptual intelligence. Then another break in conscious thought, higher recepts are replaced by concepts.

A recept is a composite image of many thousands of percepts; it is itself an image abstracted from many images; but a concept is that same composite image, that same recept, named, ticketed, and dismissed. A concept is in fact a named recept – the name standing henceforth for the thing itself, that is, for the recept.

The revolution by which concepts were substituted for recepts has increased the efficiency of the brain for thought, the ability to replace big cumbersome recept by a simple sign.

As the possession of concepts implies the possession of language, so the possession of concepts and language (which are in reality two aspects of the same thing) implies the possession of self-consciousness.

There is a moment in the evolution of mind when the receptual intellect, capable of simple consciousness only, becomes almost quite instantaneously a conceptual intellect in possession of language and self-consciousness.

In the history of individual man the point is reached and passed at the age of three years; in the history of the human race it was reached and past several thousands of years ago.

Our intellect today is made up of a complex mix of percepts, recepts, and concepts.

A concept is made up of one or more recepts combined with probably several percepts. This complex recept is then marked by a sign; that is it is named and becomes a concept, which, after being named or marked, it is laid away in a vast storage house in the brain for later retrieval.

We have seen the expansion of the perceptual mind had a limit and that its own continued life led it to develop into the receptual mind and that the receptual mind inevitably developed into the conceptual mind, which leads us to the consideration of a corresponding outlet to be found for the conceptual mind, the cosmic consciousness.

The four stages the in the development of the human mind were: first, the perceptual mind, the mind made up of percepts or sense impressions; second, the mind made up of these and recepts, the receptual mind or simple consciousness; third, the mind made up of percepts, recepts and concepts, the conceptual or the self conscious mind; and fourth, there is the intuitional mind, the mind whose highest element is not a recept or a concept but an intuition. This is the mind in which sensation, simple consciousness and self-consciousness are supplemented with cosmic consciousness.

Much more modern than the birth of the intellect is that of the colour sense.

It is well known that the ability to distinguish different colours came at relatively late date:; Xenophanes knew of three colours of the rainbow, purple, red and yellow; even Aristotle spoke of the tri-coloured rainbow; and Democritus knew of no more than four colours – black, white, red and yellow.

Throughout the Homeric poems and the Bible the colour of sky is not once mentioned, therefore, apparently, not recognized.

In the Bible the sky and heaven are mentioned more than four hundred and thirty times, and still no mention of its colour.

In no part of the world is the blue of the sky more vivid and intense than in Greece and Asia Minor, where the Homeric poems were composed.

At first man distinguished only two colours, red and black. Under the name red was included the colour white, yellow and all intermediate tints. While under the name black was included all shades of blue and green.

As the sensations of red and black came into existence by the division of an original unital colour sensation , so in the process of time these also divided, and so on, until at present where apparently four colours, red, yellow, blue, and green have split up into the enormous number of shades of colour which are now reorganized and named.

The solar or other light rays that excite vision are named red, orange, yellow, green, and blue, indigo, violet. These rays differ in the length and amplitude of the waves that compose them, with red being the highest and violet being the lowest.

The energy of light waves has the power of exciting vision. Red rays have several more thousand times the ability for exciting vision than that of violet.

I saw it on TV over a year ago. Don't know if you can get it in a vid store. Purpose as in PURPOSE and Logotherapy might include the Singularity of World Mind and then again one has to be open to many alternative universes and creativity that allows assholes like Dan to live in their own world.

As far as artistic representations of a multiverse - the photos from space that are doctored are great but if you wish to convey something that will communicate the way or the how of making this New Paradigm become real - I can imagine you will need more than just one artistic medium. Music would play an important part and you should access symbols which are the archetypes of the mind collective. I suggest Jung and Silberer.

I worked with my last wife on just such paintings and I enjoyed it a lot. The symbols should not compete with each other and the colors must express harmony with the symbols as I see it.

I would be interested in seeing some images of this work.

I haven't seen her since we parted in Belize.

Did you come up with any significant results?

Art dealers from KC came to a show for a fellow artist at the only studio in Belize City. They paid the highest price for her work and it was in the back room and not on display.

The important work of these things is not the money but the DECREE or ability to set Templates for proper understanding - see Teilhard de Chardin.

Bernard de Chartes, "Latecomers are dwarfs atop the shoulders of giants. However tiny they may be, from their vantage point they can see a little further than their mighty predecessors." (The Analects of Confucius - Simon Leys)

People expect a great work of art to develop their minds by expressing and clarifying the best thoughts of great men and women of their own and earlier times.

“A universe within the mind,” Robert Fudd, a 17th century English physician and inventor, theorized that, “the mind of man was a universe in miniature.”

My studio practice and theoretical research centres on spatial cognition. I’m exploring multi-dimensional aspects of perceptual space, as well as, multi-bodies of thought by visually synthesizing many compositional and theoretical elements into a single harmonious amalgamation. I layer many theoretical approaches that attempt to echo the multi-dimensional complexity of metaphysics. I’m taking a metaphysical approach to painting by contextualizing an interdisciplinary blend of philosophy, science, math, and art with the psychology of colour, optics and perception. This approach has been accomplished through the aid of a multi-dimensional painting style that employs geometrical applications, philosophical assumptions, scientific endeavours and psychological theories. This conglomeration seamlessly co-exists on two and three-dimensional painting surfaces in visually exciting and harmonic colour combinations. I do this to correlate with the mathematically structured world that humanity has created, whether this is due to a collectively insufficient mental capacity to discern otherwise or because this is exactly how the universe is, and to mimic the newly emancipated and historically subjugated multi-coloured perception of life, colours of consciousness, relatively speaking. Are we just now beginning to collectively crawl out from the turbid depths of our universal ignorance and establishing cosmic consciousness, a Quantum paradigm?

My paintings have been a rational attempt to explore questions of internal relationships with the known perceptual environment. I’ve chosen to work multi-dimensionally so as to parallel the scientifically theorized multi-verse we live in, where some scientists believe there to be as many as seven added dimensions, to the ones of length, breadth, height, and time, that make up the fabric of space. I’ve been exploring and pushing the boundaries of the traditional planar surface for answers to the plethora of complicated states and structures that we see and don’t see around us in the physical world on a continual basis.

Fudd is Fludd: he was the alchemist of The Royal Society (BEES) put as the Nautonnier of The Priory of Sion. What he refers to here is the Dictum of Hermes or Law of the Magi (there are three) which I used in my wife's major artwork before doing a Jaguar for a friend as we left Belize.

This law is commonly reduced to As Above, SO Below and there is a great book by that title you may want to get.

The micro to macro universe is easily represented in art by drawing a crossing line line in the center of your piece of art and then representing your message wherein relationships of the content play themselves out.

Psshah.

They did not fire the guy at MIT who fraudulently cooked the work on the Fleishmann-Pons experiemnt. They did not fire the people who Velikovsky proved wrong. IN fact you will find if you fraudulently do what the paradigm wants you to do - you will get advancements you do not deserve.

Regardless of the probability of consequences to myself, I will not knowingly lie. That is doing unnecessary harm, which is my definition of evil. Nor will I take undeserved advancements. That's behavior unbecoming of a human being.

Regarding cold fusion, are there any recent developments?