caitiff
Jul 13, 2004, 07:38 AM
miss 'i was abused as a child so that gives me the right to screw every guy that comes along because i am just looking for a parental figure'
dont tell me your just looking for guidence
while your sucking my best friends cock
dont tell me that due to a few slaps as a child you need to sleep with every male within a ten mile radius
sure i felt sorry for you
everyone needs a father figure
your dad beat you
i felt bad
but the sympathy drained away
when i saw you line 'em up and f*ck them over all the while moaning about your childhood
what about me?
if my dad hits me a couple of times can i sleep with every guy in the state while still keeping my innocence because i had a 'unstable childhood'?
no
what exactly do you think your doing anyway?
think if you take it up the a*s with guys that are thirty years older then you, you'll eventually find a man that will love you like a daugter?
fat chance sweety
now if you were just a slut i wouldnt mind as much
of course i would steer clear any male friends and just incase start a rumor about your 'aids problem'
but i wouldnt hate you
its the fact
that you need an exuse to be a whore
your opening pity line
"my dad beat me (tear tear) will you f*ck me?"
just throws me off
b*tch, accept that your just another whore on the street
get a life
get a job
and stop making up exuses with a fake father and false innocence
for the thing that you most enjoy
AmbientSnowflake
Jul 13, 2004, 02:18 PM
There is a lot of potential with this poem. If you remove yourself and your opinions on the matter the story will tell itself. Some line breaks might help, but they may not be necessary.
You were quite succesful in identifying the excuse to persue an addiction as a crutch for this person rather than a justification for this one's promiscuity.
Rather than aligning their beliefs with their actions, they choose to form a conclusion by which they perform these actions. For example, rather than, "I sleep around because I love sex," they prefer, "I sleep around because of my past experiences, and lack of a loving father figure." It might be the case that the 'whore' does have this background. She chooses to find this father/daughter love in older men, or any man. Problems of the psyche should be an inner journey to find the self-assurance that was never given to her by her father in herself, and perhaps not letting herself be seen as an object among men.
I've met wounded princesses. There is a point at which help can be given. And their is a point at which no amount of help can provide them with a different perspective of their worth as a human being. It's a long journey to find the inner peace that evades the mind because one has been objectified and abused by someone that is trusted.
Some don't wish to be saved, yet cry out for help. And some are blind in an unknown world, not knowing what it is like to see themselves worthy of love. These wounded princesses need to love themselves before they can be loved.
Dismounts from soapbox.
anonymust
Jul 14, 2004, 03:05 PM
bitches and hoes. you know?
F**K em. or not
caitiff
Jul 15, 2004, 05:45 AM
What do you suggest AmbientSnowFlake? and also, why should i remove my opinion's of her? i am the one who wrote it, so it seems i should define what i think.
AmbientSnowflake
Jul 15, 2004, 11:31 AM
If your friend is telling you about how she wishes she wasn't sleeping around, and she is trying really hard to make you believe it, the best thing to do for her is to have no opinion or concern about whether or not she is sleeping around.
People can tell all that they know about themselves, in this case your friend's abusive past, in order to gain sympathy. If she wants to sleep around, then consider that none of your business. Take no sides on whether she is doing the right or wrong thing. Most likely, you'll lose a friend. She might just want people to go along with her crazy idea about herself.
She recognizes her sexual promiscuity was initially a result of her lack of love from her father. She has some knowledge about herself. Chances are, she doesn't have a place to go in order to work out the motivating factors behind her sexuality.
If she can find some healthy way to express this need of hers then that might even solve the problem. Perhaps a male companion who is twenty years or older isn't a bad thing for her. This woman's physical health is important because without it she can not survive. And what seems as a lack of control over her sexuality isn't unusual because there is no sexual norm. But the frequency of this behavior suggests that she can't necessarily keep friends for very long.
Tell her she needs to talk to her father. Tell her she needs to use condoms when sleeping with people she doesn't know. Tell her to stick up for herself, and have some self-assurance. Church helps some people, not all, though. She has to be willing to change if she ever wants help. And if she ever wants help you have to be ready to give her an answer.
It's a long, hard road to any place that's worth going to.
caitiff
Jul 18, 2004, 05:53 PM
lol...no i'm not asking how to help her. i am asking why i shouldn't (in your opinion) express my views on this certain issue. I have always felt that since it is my poetry i should say how i feel. Everyone can discrible an event but only I can say how I see it, how it comes to me and my views on it.
AmbientSnowflake
Jul 19, 2004, 07:17 PM
Hehe, <grin, shrug shoulders.> My mistake.
It is (my opinion) that the reader needs something to work for. It's a matter of "telling" vs. "showing." You can tell me all about her problems with her dad, and why you don't like it. But if you tell me what you see, then I can draw my own conclusion. I would not only read, but I would form my own resolution, conclusion, opinion, thoughts of pity or hatred, about her. What if the poem is about me? [What if,] I identify with what you're doing in this poem, and then felt judged: "Fat chance sweety." You're telling me what I've heard over and over. You can strategicly insert your opion by using the right words. And taking the perspective that you are the whore, you're able to talk more freely about the role that this girl plays in her interaction with people. The best writers assume the persona of their characters, having a schitzophrenic personality, and remove themselves from the story. That's not always the way it is. But I was told by a teacher, "You have to know the rules before you can break them." I don't believe in too much, but this is one I've taken to heart.
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