i am not religious but i believe in god and ghosts and reincarnation and heaven and souls. my definition of these subjecs, however, is different than most people's. here is the definition of them that i came up with on my own. according to einstein's law of relativity everything in the universe has elements that can be found in other places in the universe. this law holds applicable to everything in the universe that i am aware. there is, however, one exception to this law. that exception is thoughts. the componants of thoughts are the only thing that i can think of that are not componants of anything else in the universe and therefore, according to einstein's law of relativity, the only logical explanation that i can think of for thoughts is that they do not come from this universe. they are from a different dimension. this demension is my definition of god. god is not a being as many religions perceive it to be. god is a different dimension that is not of this universe but has connections to this universe in teh sense that the thoughts that come from "god" somehow, perhaps through a wormhole or something, ended up connecting with our bodies. since thoughts don't come from the universe then they have absolutely no way of manipulating the universe. this is why they enter our bodies. the energy of our thoughts are my definition of a soul. our bodies are of this universe and made up of natural elements and compatible with newtons law of relativity. bur our bodies need the thoughts from the different dimension to survive. this is what differentiats us from rocks and water and stars. since our thoughts are energy then when our bodies die our thoughts don't die with us. therefore the energy that is left after our bodies die is my definition of a ghost. that "ghost" can't stay in the environment without a body because it has nothing to relate to. therefore there are two options that i can think of that the "ghosts" can go to. perhaps they go into new bodies that don't yet have "souls". this is my definition of reincarnation. the only other option that i can think of is that they go back through the wormhole into their source, which is my definition of "heaven". well i can go on and on with this subject but you've probably got the gist of it now and i don't want you to get bored with reading about it. but i would be really interested on hearing your comments on this theory since it is a very new theory that i have come up with so i am interested in hearing how other people might react to it and maybe finding holes or flaws in it.

Would your theory include a world mind dimension from which thought comes and can be 'tapped-in' to?

I believe I posted something here on Intellitapping by Dr Gottfried and I know my stuff on Affinity relates to what you are saying.

Dear Rick

Why would you say the brain has no function if it is capable of attuning to the mind, thoughts or consciousness beyond the 'world of seems to be' which is limited by only some aspects of the eyes or other functions the brain is capable of gathering inputs through?

I understand you think that is what flowerfairy thinks but I don't see flowerfairy saying that. She is saying that thoughts require the attunement to gain insight or creativity or even the initial spark that either our DNA or soul (according to mystical precepts - some) directs through the DNA that the Director of the Human Genome Project says has a 'history book'.

It seems to me that hypothesizing another universe to explain mind-brain adds an unnecessary level of complexity. I am looking for the simplest possible explanation.

Speaking of DNA, there is an excellent article in the current SciAm that explains the so-called junk DNA. It's not really "junk," of course, but plays the role of instruction words, as opposed to the "data words" of protein-encoding (non-junk) DNA.

Yes, that is true and I anm confident our fairy friend would agree dimensions she speaks to are resident in this universe.

well there is another theory that i am not extremely knowledgable about, but from what i know of it, it is compatible of my theory about thoughts. this theory is the theory of 11 dimensional superstrings, dimensions wrapped up in one another but all within the same universe. so perhaps thoughts come from another dimension that is within our universe. but as robert the bruce pointed out, every theory has to be simple, and 11 seems like a pretty complex number to me, so i don't know how much faith i have in the 11 dimension superstring theory, but i would like to learn more about it, and in any case it might add some clarification to my whole theory about dimensions.

On the first page of this thread (Sept. 2nd I think) Rev. King wrote:

Ecumenicsim ROCKS!

Dr Wallace of Carnegie Mellon (who builds robot brains) says there is indeed some enlightenment that is outside the physical or chemical parameters of the brain which varies among people to a large extent. I quote from what I put here under the Sri Aurobindo thread - you might note he addresses dumping human brain contents into a computer too.

My idea is more like 99-1, or even 99.999999% automatic machinery and .00000001% self-awareness, creativity, consciousness, spirit or what have you.

That's not to say that some people can't be more enlightened than others. But for the vast herd out there, on average, consciousness is simply not a significant factor. Not even a second- or third-order effect. Consciousness is marginal.

I'll take what I can get.

Dear Rick

Hopefully that means with someone you enjoy and not just any Tom, Dick Harry or Jane.

thank you, rick, for explaining more in depth the 11 dimension superstring theory, i see now that it is unrelated. as far as robert the bruce's comment about how the conscious is such an insignificant factor, consciousness is all we know. even the knowledge that we have of our own and other people's subconsciouses are based on the way that our conscious mind percieves our subconscious mind. so if our consciouses determine everything we do and know and yet they are such an insignificant part of our minds, then what is all the energy of our subconsciouses doing? it seems like it is wasted if we cannot manipulate it and it cannot manipulate itself.

Dear F

That was not my comment though I agree that much of what goes on is routine and not consciously considered by an individual. I would place a far higher degree of volition potential in terms of even the everyday acts of people. Still there is so much of what we do that is programmed just like his robots.

As to sub-conscious - dream-state and soul - ah there is the real issue.

I had not - but I just did. I like it - a lot!

Thanks. Chapters 2 through 4 are there too.

robert the bruce... when you say "routine" and "programmed", what exactly do you mean?

Welcome, Warren. For the information of others: I have found Warren to be a true gentleman and thinker, as well as a good graphic artist. He is from Paducah, Kentucky. By the way, can pictures be posted on this site? If so, how?

flowerfiary (fairy?), please paragraph your ideas. It will make them easier to read.

I have spent over 50 years in the study and practice of theology, the Bible, philosophy, pneumatology/psychology. For details, when you get time, check out my Site http://www.flfcanada.com I earned my living and a modest pension as a pastoral minister and counselor of the spiritually ill. I try to take an open-minded, non-dctrinarie/dogmatic and loving appraoch to life and to concepts and ideas.

As Warren indicates, currently, I call myself a unitheist. In the beginning, I tried to be a typical theist. However, I soon came to the conclusion that I found it very difficult to believe in a personal god--a loving heavenly paternalistic father, named God--who hears and answers our prayers from his throne in heaven. On the other hand, I found it impossible to say there is no god of any kind whatever. To distinguish the divine being of unitheiism from that of theism I have decided, for now, to do what orothodox Jews do: I use the word 'G-d'. The - stands for all that is yet unknown, the great mysteries life.

Fortunately, I belong to a church, the United Church of Canada, http://www.united-church.ca/ which does not demand perfection and unquestioning obedience of its members. It allows all members, theists and nontheists, to think for themselves and to question all dogma. Curious agnostics and atheists are also welcome. We ask people to be 'religious' in the sense that we want them to be loving, moral, ethical and just towards one another.

DEFINTION OF G-D--the g-d of unitheism

Warren: Here is my most recent, non-dogomatic, definition of G-d. G-d is the 'It' in all matter, such as the elements and minerals; the 'What' in all unconscious life, such as vegetables and animal life, and the 'Who' in all conscious human life. In addition, G-d is the infinite mystery in which all that IS is contained.

When I am saying routine it would include things done on the job and a lot of things which are repetitive. There have been studies which show married people (after the first two years together) only say 200 new words or thoughts with that many words in a whole year. That might suggest a great deal more routine than actually exists - because there are other ways of sharing, caring and learning than what goes on with words.

Dr Wallace goes far further than many and cybernetics is the study of how we are programmed from a physiological evaluativve POV whereas therapeutic approaches including NPL and getting people to act (behavior modification) are other ways to use programming. There is a thread here on Semiotics which addresses some of these techniques for 'manufacturing consent' at a social engineering level. You can say that much of what is Politically correct and the lack of real discussion about sex, religion and politics is part of the peer milieu that programs us. Indeed all media programming is brainwashing to some extent. He seems to say less than 1 per cent of what we do has any real conscious, creative or different than his robots kind of behavior.

I try to expose the combined effect of these things in conjunction with new machines to create thought-cloning as well as old rituals and symbols that did the same thing. They are all part of why we do things we think are conscious or free will and yet are not.

I think that's what Leary was talking about when he said that one has to blow one's conditioning and really decide for himself what he wants to be like.

ok robert the bruce, i THINK i understand you now. so you are saying that things that are programmed are things like eating and sleeping and breathing, and things that are routine are things like saying hello when someone greets you and looking at someone who is talking to you and scratching yourself when you have an itch?

Dear F

Things that are programmed are all things of law and matters politic or theological. Things that are routine are also programmed and serve to keep busy the people who otherwise might learn to what end their masters intend to use them as sword or cannon fodder and worse.

Have you read Chomsky? He was a psychological guru of NLP before he took on the political machine. He yet does not well attack the paradigm in his books as he simply refers (like Bill Maher) to the 'corporatists' and other Nazi or neo-con elites. It is far more subtle and much more pervasive. It includes soul-grabbing.

ok, so then are you saying that things that are programmed are things like how a woman will go to the mall and buy a mini skirt, and she thinks she is buying the mini skirt because she likes it, but the real reason she is buying the mini skirt is because all the "attractive" people on tv wear mini skirts and the "attractive" men on tv always go for the women in the mini skirts and all her peers who are dating "attractive" men are wearing mini skirts, but she dosn't consciously think about all this when she goes and buys the mini skirt?

you are accually the second person to recomend chomsky to me. i have read a little of his works, but what i read pissed me off, because he first condems the media for giving unaccurate information, then he proceeds to educate his readers, through MAGAZINE articles, about topics such as nato's war in kosovo, central american presidents, the columbia plan, and a million other such things that he couldn't possibly know anything about except through second-hand information which is exactly what the media is. it seems hypocritical to me to use the media as an outlet to condemn the media, and i really don't like hypocrisy. it's like he's saying "the media is a bunch of liars, but you can trust me even though i'm part of the media".

Dear F

By analysis of data and cross-checking the information Chomsky selects the pciture that fairly presents what has occurred. His facts and research are great. He is much more forthcoming and natural (Humble according to a correspondent of mine who knows him personally) in auditorium settings where he can answer specific questions and integrate the picture for his audience. His books are rough-sledding.

Your first paragraph deals with marketing - and though this is part of what I am saying (I ran my own PR firm dealing with the top spin doctors in the US for 12 years.) it is less what I anm talking about than what McLuhan addressed when he said give me control of the media for 15 years and I will control the nation. His recent biographer says McLuhan knew the secret societies or synarchists who control the media and yet he was not allowed to write about them. My assistant (sometimes researcher) was a student taking Classical History at McLuhan's school at the time and he says McLuhan was an outcast among the faculty for his willingness to confront reality.

But media and the history telling trade is only part of the tools they use.

as far as chomsky, my belief on that type of thing is that the only true information is first-hand information. your friend who told you chomsky was humble told you that information from a fist-hand account, so that information is verifable to that extent, and i do respect humbleness. but how do you know that chomsky analyzes data and cross-checks information and that his facts and research are great?

when i brought up that example through marketing i was onlly refferening to one specific example. but i agree with you that the media is extremely corrupt in many ways. that's why i no longer watch tv or read magazines or newspapers or listen to the radion or go to the mall or anything like that. but like you said, the media and the history telling trade are only part of the tools they use, so it is impossible for you to completely protect yourself unless you go become a hermit in the woods, which is extreme, but it's accually what i do plan on doing once i have my life in a stable position where living a natural hermit-type lifestyle will be as nondetrimental to me as possible. the only problem with living as a hermit is that it inhibits your ability to educate people. so that is one drawback that i need to consider, but in the meantime, as a 16-year-old surrounded by people living the typical "american dream" lifestyle and trying with a strong amount of direct and indirect power to influence me to live that lifestyle, it is hard sometimes to stay out of subliminal traps. what would you suggest to someone in my situation to prevent letting myself be "programmed" any further than i already am?

I know Chomsky does good research because I have authenticated it. I have other sources I use and they agree.

I took the advice of an older and wiser man I met in Belize some six or seven years ago - he told me to become a hermit. But the opportunity to teach still serves a purpose in my life.

Dear Flowerfairy

As to your excellent questioning about how to stay away from influences - you will do well and I suspect you will yet spend time doing what they want. Go with it and show them and yourself that you can do that too - you are able to question and this alone is a great armament for truth. Thomas Jefferson made that clear in a preamble to the Separation of Church and State Bill he was most proud of (Virginia legislation I think). I could get you the quote from one of my books if you want.

You are young and a whole world awaits - and in proceeding to make mistakes and learning from them you will find things you never imagined you could do and BE. To BE or not - ah that is the 'question' (Thanks to Will Shake his spear - that is one way he spelt his name of 17 different spellings.).

yeah that makes sense. it's like what a friend of mine was telling me the other day. i was complaining about how i want to learn but it is hard to do so in a school system that is so corrupt, and he said "you have to stop working for school and make school work for you". i guess that that concept can be applied to all of life. thank you.

You are most welcome but let me tell you - if I had it to do over again - I would either quit school at age twelve and go to work or I would study very hard in a field I know has meaning - like Harmonics or Physics. But I did not know enough to know what had meaning when I was an existentialist. School was a waster of my time and I tested out of university (And was made a program committee member by my fellow MBA students at the best University) as most people can test out of their GED after a few years of work.

And I knew I did not need school when I was doing it - so I should have done what I say.

Rev. King wrote:

my plans as far as education and work are to persue my passion, which is music. music has meaning for me, and i think that if i apply it in the right way it can have meaning on a much larger basis. the career that i want to persue is to be a music video director because i am really interested in the creative aspect of it. it's a really scary career to enter though because it's the kind of thing that's a lot easier to misuse and be corrupted by than it is to spread good causes with it. but i think that if i can manage to spread good causes with it it can be pretty powerful in a positive way. and i think that getting a college education will help me in the sense that it's a lot easier to crush or avoid or manipulate the system if you understand it. i guess i just have to be really careful.

Dear F

Harmonics and the Lost Chord can be put into music as Pythagoras knew - see his words on Singing of the Spheres' and good luck to you. Dan is right - you are already wiser than most.

Dear F

I put this here (probably again) in order to give you some idea of what is 'possible'.

DE-MATERIALIZATION: - Come on now!? Really? This is going too far, you might say. Eastern philosophy tells us there are seven layers of manifest physicality and spirituality. The same laws that operate in one dimension operate in all dimensions according to the phrase 'As Above, So Below' that is credited to the Babylonian Hermes Trismegistus and the Magi. It is one of the three laws of the magi and if you study the cosmogony of the spheres and the beliefs of many like Shakespeare you'll see this concept. This is undoubtedly true of the phenomena of invisibility and de-materialization as well. Many people can appear invisible who are not invisible however, and this is a different practice called 'mind-fogging'. Anton Mesmer was able to demonstrate this before skeptics and the marveling masses alike. Carlos Castaneda readers will have heard about his 'amber rays' that sound a lot like the energy packets of Tesla with non-force potential and also might have expression as gravity and affinity. The next quote tells us about a level of invisible force field that occurs with the input of elementals and possibly spiritual humans or sorcerer’s charms. In science we can probably already create some fields of force that enable much of these things and the Star Trek aficionados will recognize 'cloaking' in this helical seven layered conscious and unconscious interplay.


"In the Old Testament story about Balaam and his [edit], Balaam's instructions from God forbade him to take a certain way, which he immediately did. His [edit] shied away from the path, but Balaam beat it back again. {Could the Mungo Man cavern dwellers have developed this kind of 'protection'?} It repeated this behavior and, finally, it lay down in the road and no amount of blows could persuade it to continue. The biblical explanation, put into the mouth of the [edit], was that its refusal to move was caused by a vision of the Angel of the Lord standing in its path.


Frequently we read in accounts of fairy sightings that horses-- with or without carriages--are unable to pass beyond a point in the road adjacent to where fairy music is heard or where fairies are seen at their revels. It is said that St Thomas Aquinas, who learned the art of making magical models from Albertus Magnus, was so disturbed in his studies by the clatter of horses outside his house that he made a brass horse and buried it in the street. Thereafter no horse could be made to travel that way, even when whipped.
Similar legends can also be found in a modern context. UFO reports often feature car engines that stall in the presence of a UFO or when a UFO directs a beam of light at the car. Witnesses also speak of radios failing and watches stopping.


A ghostly variation on the theme appears in 'Weekend' (21 October 1970); several witnesses spoke of a phantom army which had been seen in November 1960 on a road near Otterburn, Northumberland, the site of a fourteenth-century battle. One of the witnesses, Mrs Dorothy Strong, was in a taxi. She said: 'Suddenly the engine died, the fare-meter went haywire and the taxi felt as if it was being forced against an invisible wall. The soldiers seemed to close in on us and then fade into thin air.' Several people said it had happened around that location before.


Some believe that the interference is caused by mysterious 'rays' and energy fields, similar to those beloved by early science-fiction stories and movies. The subject of 'secret rays' which could stop machines or cause 'mysterious' accidents was enthusiastically discussed in the popular press of 1923-24 and Oliver Grindell-Matthews, the eccentric British genius, even claimed to have invented such a 'projector' (Daily Mail, 5 April 1924). Another, long forgotten, manifestation was the incident in 1930 in which about forty cars stalled simultaneously on a road in Saxony. None of them were able to restart for about an hour (New York Times, 25 October 1930). Later on, the idea of 'death rays' and machine-stopping rays was revived in the classic rumours of World War II.
Today we know that powerful magnetic pulses can be directed in such a way as to stop machines, even car engines, at some distance and these have been developed as military and police devices. But still there is a kind of fascination in recognizing that the 'tractor beams' of 'Star Trek' have their counterparts, if not roots, the older traditions of fairy and ghost lore. {We will touch further on this in Druids, etc.} A similar effect to an 'invisible ray' is the inhibiting magical spell which can be lifted only by the person who placed it - a power attributed to George Pickingill said to be one of the last of the old 'cunning men' of Essex who died in 1909 {A photo included has a caption - 'said to be able to stop farm machinery with a glance'.}. In Katherine Wilshire's collection of tales from the living memory of her English country ('Ghosts and Legends of the Wiltshire Countryside', 1973), a ninety-year-old shepherd tells of a carter who worked on the same farm as himself at Newton Tony. One day the man was driving a wagon-load of wood and encountered a woman, known locally as a witch, who asked if he would carry her small bundle on his cart. He refused and tried to drive on, but the horses were unable to pull the wagon beyond that point, and he had no choice but to unhitch them and lead them home. The farmer returned the next morning, and again the wagon would not budge;' it remained stuck until they consented to carry the woman's small bundle of wood.
In the 1820s, General Andrew Jackson (a future President of the USA) heard stories about the 'Bell witch' - an active poltergeist at the Tennessee farm of John Bell - and went out of his way to investigate the matter. Approaching the farm, his horses halted as the wheels of his coach suddenly froze. Jackson examined them himself and could see no reason why the pushing and pulling could not budge them. The exasperated members of his party were startled by a metallic voice ringing out in the air: 'All right, General, let the wagon move.'" (


The 'rays' and photonic energy of gravity that was covered in our entry entitled negative gravity in ‘Science' are able to be contacted by a soul even though they are without a brain. String Theory tells us all matter and energy is comprised of 'one dimensional harmonic force' and M-branes. The primordial consciousness of the basic ingredients of the energy that forms all matter are able to be heard in the 'singing of the spheres' that Pythagoras and the 'Therapeutae' have known for millenia. Historians of philosophy and science have reported this 'anomaly' of what Michael Grant called 'weird'. The truth is that Aldous Huxley's 'perennial religion' is a better explanation of reality than the paradigm of science which is the soul-less basis of our day to day existence. The current quantum world is based on the same awarenesses. Each molecule is a complex system of the nuclear and other forces and dimensions thought to number eleven (In this reality, but who knows what will be found elsewhere, in the parallel and alternative universes they know exist?).


The spinach chlorophyll receptors that are being integrated into complex circuits for computeronics will reduce the size of computer chips and nanotechnological equipment to the size that will allow our bloodstream to have cleansing machines (and other more heinous applications) just as they will be able to clean oil spills and the air. The use of quantum teleport gates in computers is becoming a reality. Stephen Hawking says he knows time travel exists at the subatomic or molecular level but doesn't think complex systems will ever do it. I am near to certain he is wrong even though he is a great 'thinker'. The collective integration of affinity between natural energies with rudimentary consciousnesses is about to be replicated by humanity. Is this the first time sentient beings have done this on earth? Not at all! Perhaps it will be the first time that unethical undisciplined and otherwise extreme people will have access to it. Teleporting will require a disassociation of each molecule and subsequent re-constitution of it as shown on Star Trek.
Now if a simple ability to hear these elemental energies that can coagulate into spiritual energies with collective consciousness like faeries, is weird; what would Mr. Grant (who doubted Pythagoras could bi-locate) say about de-materialization. This is one way bi-location can be explained and as I mentioned I have some experience in the matter that I promised to write about in this 'Mysteries' section. With trepidation and knowledge that people are extremely threatened (and lash out to do vicious things like burn people at the stake or throw them in our 'hospitals without walls') I will endeavour to explain what my adept lady who developed a mountain climbing sutra did with me and could do.


Pythagoras never wrote anything and Socrates shared this commitment to the Law of the Magi known as 'Scrire, Potere, Audere, Tacere' or 'Know, Will, Dare, Keep Silent'. We all know what happened to Socrates. What I am about to write takes a willingness to forfeit one's life here on Earth. It also requires that the reader consider all we've presented so far and if this were to be critiqued by any writer or academic it would undoubtedly be taken out of context. The words of the dead Mr. Myers earlier said how difficult it is to convey the actual other dimensional aspects of our soulful existence and I can't promise I will do any better. However, I will try to do what few others have dared.


My lady Lydia was a Hawkins of the ancestry of the great privateer 'Black Jack' just as thousands of miles away in Ottawa (We met in Las Vegas.) a cousin of my sister-in-law who was about to come work for my family's company was living. They looked like twins and that was a powerful co-incidence of synchronous energy in itself. Our meeting was a 'trip' of grandiose proportions that makes another book I have written seem so weird it would only be regarded as fiction (that book is called 'The Nos Feratu'). In this meeting I was able to exhibit some control that later was almost non-existent and nearly rendered my soul. Rendered has many meanings and when applied to the butcher and his trade, it is close to what kind of lard or jelly (fish) my heart was 'feeling' after a few months that were wild beyond my own vivid dreams. The setting of the story began at the 'Shark Club' in Las Vegas one night just before I turned forty, about eleven years ago. I was in the process of buying a home in Las Vegas after moving from Los Angeles where I had been involved with a basic and ordinary woman (totally honest, and without my having even talked about an 'US') who had another amazing 'gift'. Her special talent was total sensory recall of the physical body. Yes, my life has been a myriad maze of the paranormal and sexual interplay of what most people would call 'fantasy'. In the relationship with Lydia she was honest and totally in control with no reason for me to even grasp at the smallest of straws to think there could ever be an 'US'.
Truly this is going to be HARD to do, and at the same time if one connected the components already covered they would be well on their way to understanding what might have happened or what Lydia could do. On the first night we met she told me she could de-materialize and that some day she would not return. The major reason for continuing to exist in this realm was her hopes to have a child with her husband. I had read 'Cosmic Consciousness' by Richard Maurice Buck; the noted turn-of-the-century psychiatrist who along with Walt Whitman was instrumental in ending the use of strait-jackets in asylums, when I was just a teenager. In fact a friend's older brother used to call me 'The Cosmic Kid'. In this book he recounts how a person de-materialized 29 times before all the skeptics, police and scientists of the early 20th century at McGill in Montreal. That person eventually didn't re-appear in the other room as he had always done. In the pursuit of understanding these things I had read or talked with numerous people about the Indian’s ability to turn around three times and discorporate at the appointed time in which they were to leave this earth. The Indians who can do this in India are usually of the Sai Baba level and those who do it in North America are of the shaman/witchdoctor training. Bruce Lee and his attempt to do these things associated with 'Kime' and a whole host of things like Carlos Castaneda who seems to say he is still doing the back and forth trip; made this bit of apparently incredible knowledge not as fantastic to me as you would imagine. But for it to be happening to me at a time when I had just been talking to a young man from New Zealand about how I was structuring my life's growth in the cosmic realms and decreeing said growth, was a further confirmation that I was worthy of this unique encounter. Some would use the words 'Heaven Sent'.
My family has heard this story a few times and they think I am close to insane or definitely deluded even though they have lots of similarly 'weird' things to recollect from their own experiences in my life. Many of the experiences are so threatening to them that they experience knee-jerk 'Denial'. Others become rationalized into co-incidence and/or the realm of Deepak Chopra and some 'unknowable'. There is nothing that is unknowable except for those who would keep their heads in the sand, I am frequently heard saying.


It has taken me years to grasp the inter-connections that may have gone on, as we continue to talk about all that went on. My limited adeptness is a factor that makes it hard to understand why I was so blessed (or cursed) and it causes me many hours of thought each month as I read and learn more about what our world is comprised of. She promised to show me the reality whereof de-materialization comes from - it was years later that I realized what I thought was joint astral travel initiated by her was actually part of what she promised. On the occasion of her taking me astrally (in an instant) to a stream leading to a lake in Switzerland, I had witnessed fish jumping out of the stream as if they recognized her spiritual body (solar or astral). When next I had seen her I tested her on the point and she recounted how they always did this and it was what she called 'flipping' because they would turnover in the air before they re-entered the water. My question of her had not mentioned the fish but just the lake and mountains. This Lake is supposedly the favorite lake and area for the great occultist Aleister Crowley who she left me at the junction of the stream and the lake to meet with. His spirit may not be just Aleister as we have covered and it would suggest he had a purpose beyond the obvious negative one we know about while on this earth. (That is irrelevant to this story but important to others we are thematically developing.)
I trust you can understand my confusion and uncertainty about all of this and why it was happening to me. My approach to knowing has seldom involved ritual and never been of the harmful to others (intentional) variety. I do adhere to the Law of the Magi dealing with 'Right Thought= Right Action' even though I do not follow the 'Keep Silent' part of the law previously mentioned.
Around this time our 'connection' was very strong and I would be driving on my way to Los Angeles in the pre-dawn as the sun shone on the mountains mentioned in the Area 51 or 'Black Ops' entry. This is when she enhanced my awareness of the conscious aspects of what the Indians know is great wisdom in the ageless mountain spirit. I could feel her as she did her morning meditations and know her in ways that were closer than she might have been if she were beside me. We seldom saw each other in person and my infatuation or obsession with her was TOTAL! On a couple of occasions I imagined I sensed Castaneda's 'amber rays' but that might have been the affect of the sunrise over the mountains in the half-dew of the desert. It was an awesome beauty and glorious feeling in toto. At the time all this 'closeness' and beauty was inundating me with wonder and awe but it didn't rise to the level where I doubted my sanity like Carl Jung experienced when he had visions of the coming World War I during his early life. It is interesting that the psychotherapy or psychoanalysis field is revolving back to Jung again and yet I haven't read any who deal in depth with his cosmogony recently in such a manner as to explain why it works. They are returning to it and the archetypes in a mere superficial manner. There is a definite genetic influence that the genome project and its 'History Book' might lead to us knowing why these things work in scientific terms.
One night I was aware that Lydia and I would never see each other again and I engaged in my meditative/mantra exercise (Yes, you could call it a ritual, but it was not designed to usurp and it was 'open' to whatever happened in RIGHT THOUGHT, so I can defend what I said about no ritual.). I reached out with all my love to all I had ever loved or had ever loved me. I was hurting and needful. I was certainly sorry for my weakness that had caused me to be unable to maintain a relationship with the only married woman I'd ever 'known'. Intellectually I understood all the ground rules right from the start but my heart could not feel her awesome beauty and know I would never really have her in my life. True, what I had was more by far, in a spiritual sense, and it should have been enough.


Perhaps some day I will figure out how to integrate these thoughts without talking in the first person about things that happened in my life. How, that might happen seems beyond me without the use of a fictional presentation. That is not what it was, or is!
Perhaps it is 'too serious' and I will be able to tone down the intensity of the life I have lived as time goes by; maybe then it will be more palatable, or credible or literary.
Joan is the name of the woman who could recall the actual physical experiences of her life completely as if they were happening again. In every sense of the word ‘experience’ she could feel what I had done to the psychic point on her upper arm, while we were engaged in another technique. It was like an orchestra in one session with all the instruments being played on one person's body. To say the least it had been 'fun' for me; but she had become enthralled with me, as I was with Lydia. It had been six months since my move and I had not given her my phone number. The morning after I had been sending my love to Lydia: Joan called in a state of near hysteria. She had called the operator in Las Vegas and gotten all the phone numbers for Robert Bairds. There were over four of them but she had reached me on the fourth call. Her friend Melanie who had been with her the night we met at a jazz bar called Bourbon Street in Lakewood near Long Beach California had told her to call me. She felt I was the only person who could explain what had happened as Joan had been sleeping at her house the night before. This was probably due to the fact that I had been able to 'connect' with both of them during a palm reading on the night we met.


Her descriptions of the events were difficult for me to explain until I connected her experience with what I had been doing. The time was the same (around two in the morning) and the ghostly apparition had been turning side to side as I do when my arms were up at either side of my body as conductor/receivers of the energy 'above (hands up)' and 'below (hands down) '. I told her the apparition was my solar body or 'double' and that she had reached out for me as I was reaching out. She took this in an altogether too personal manner and I had to correct her. I told her that her screams hadn't been heard because she was asleep at the point she thought she was screaming. The metallic sounds of the scraping of the bed on the floor were not possible given the lack of metal in either the bed or the floor. I told her this was the moment she was brought back suddenly and astrally from her dream state. This sound sometimes is reported in the writings on the subject. So in some way (I didn't reach this conclusion while I knew or could reach Lydia to check it out.) Lydia had referred my love and energy to the person who most loved me. As to whether or not she did this consciously, I can't even guess. If she did do it with wisdom I would have been wise to let myself fall in love with Joan, I guess. Melanie had not heard her screams or any noise and the light of the soul or solar body had come as if through closed blinds and stayed for almost the five minutes I had been doing my 'exercise' while Joan had observed in a terrified state in the bed.


That is what happened and there have been many times while I study science and reality that I've thought about which particular powers or forces and bodies were at work and what part some higher conscious entity (such as the Tribunal or Council) might have had in bringing these kinds of occurrences into my life. Many mystics and psychics have told me that my purpose or job in this 'go around' is to prepare (in conjunction with others) the coming civilization of spiritually-focused people. That is an onerous responsibility and I have only recently taken it seriously. That, of course makes the writing of these things important even if only as a way of creating the 'template' and integrating thought as a part of the 'World Mind'.
Wow! Maybe Jung was right to doubt his sanity and maybe I should give it more serious consideration you might say?! You would not be alone if you said just that, I assure you. But much like what Malcolm Muggeridge said when he commented on society and our drugging and materially-focused paradigm - Jesus would be in a jail or a mental institution if he were alive today. Yes, the 'experts' may call me a witch while I do say I have followed the life of Jesus and studied as he did, with discipline and open heart. You can decide whether 'witches' are the only ones who actually seek all the truth available and try to live with 'Right Thought'. For myself I can think of many labels and beliefs which have such aspirations and I find merit in many who don't even aspire so high or with that level of meaning. To call me a witch and refuse to consider seriously the message of the mystics in all faiths and sciences is ultimately a fool's game. Socrates or some other ancient Greek alchemist said: 'A fool thinks he is a wise man; a wise man knows he is a fool!' Each door we open to learn more of the real nature of nature leads to many more doors.

based on my experiences with spirituality it is my belief that "magic" is simply scientific fact that has not yet been proved. just because it has not been proved dosn't mean that it is not able to be proved. for example, if you showed an electric light to someone a few hundred years ago they would say it was magic because they would not be able to prove how it existed, but in modern times people don't think twice about electric lights. the thing is that because of the way that our minds work, it is hard for people to enter a frame of mind where they can believe in "magical" encounters that they can't prove or don't have first-hand experience in. for example, i've recently learned how to read minds, but if someone had told me a year ago that they knew how to read minds i would have thought that he was either a liar or that he was insane. but if i had been able to understand the simple science and psychology behind reading minds then i probably would have believed it a lot more readily. the fact that our minds work this was is inhibiting in the sense that it makes us close-minded, but it also extremely beneficial because this same mind-set is what separates the truth from lies in our heads. so, with that in mind, i don't believe your story about lydia and joan, but at the same i don't doubt at all that it is true. this is probably due to my limited knowledge and experience on the topic. so my advice to you is that if you want people to believe such extreme stories you should first start by introducing the scientific knowkedge that the supernatural events are based on without any mention at all that you are leading into something spiritual. once you have your audience secure on the scientific aspects of it you can slowly start introducing the spiritual aspect of it, and then perhaps more people will be able to believe you and in doing so increase your knowledge of what happened... i don't think i did a very good job at all of explaining what i am trying to say, but maybe you'll understand what i mean.

Dear F

Indeed I do show the various scientific contributions to the possibilities represented by that story.

Good friends: Please consider the following a gentle and loving criticism, okay? I offer it, only because I truly am interested in understanding what it is you have to say.

BTW, is there a shortage of space in cyberspace? I don't think so.

If not, may I, therefore, ask you: Please re-edit the above by breaking your ideas into paragraphs and adding some headings. Let your ideas have some breathing space. This will make it so much easier for me to read and understand you.

Thanks!

Am I the only one who feels this way?

yeah you do, but not on the level that is relevant to the general public. and maybe you don't feel that you need the general public to understand or believe you, but i think that it is a strong story, and if you present it in a way that the public is going to believe you then it could have a powerful effect. if you want to "prepare the coming generation of spiritually-focused people", then keep in mind that it one thing to offer your hand out, but it is quite another thing to convince someone to want to take your hand.

RTB tends to,.. ahem,.. 'creatively interpret' many scientific ideas and claims in order to support his rather 'interesting' worldview. I would take his claims of 'scientific knowledge' with a couple shakers full of salt.

Dan, but he does affirm some of my nutty ideas, right?...ahem...And what about you? How do you take what I have to say? And what is your world view? If you can avoid argumentum ad hominems, feel free to have a go.

I don't recall you inventing scientific evidence to 'prove' your ideas, Igking. If you want me to argue with you, claim facts that aren't true and, when I call you on them, tell me I am 'brainwashed' by some secret society which uses magical brain crystals to control me. Otherwise, we're going to have to settle for being uninterested in each other.

dan...i can see what you mean about how rtb might creatively interpret scientific facts to make them correlate with his ideas. but on the other hand, what if it's the other way around? what if he came up with the scientific facts before he came up with the ideas instead of coming up with the ideas and then finding facts to prove them? since we don't know which way it is, we need to make our own opinion on what he presents us, which is how forums should always be taken. for the time being, i will take his scientific and spiritual ideas into consideration but i won't base my philosophical standpoint on them... sorry if that didn't make any sense, i'm drunk right now.

Flowerfairy writes:

Dear F

I do? I don't think I have presented the scientific facts related to that story very much here - even if you have read them all. I have many MANY books and it takes many of them to do the subject justice.

Of course there are those who think I care if their particular ignorant viewpoint based on some limited information I have provided is all I have - but it is not.

Dear Lindsay

He can't argue except through argumentum ad hominem so don't waste your time until there is evidence of real growth and a willingness to learn what actually works. You can DO what you do and that is all that matters really.

The Scientific Method requires that we OBSERVE and then fit all observations into the conclusions we draw. This very old method attributed to a recent alchemist named Roger Bacon is always willing to continue observing and continues to provide great insight. There is no area that is more important to OBSERVE than the spiritual which is fundamental to the material. Unfortunately there is a recent program against spirituality and there was a large amount of control placed upon those who sought to study these things in the Dark Ages by those who wanted an exclusive domain.

Not knowing what ideas or theories you think I have or that you are referring to makes it difficult for me to respond. Often I find people willing to project or attribute to me certain theories I do not share. And there are good things to consider in many theories which I provide - but that does not mean I have any fixed or even certain perspective - even to why something actually works. But I agree with you (and have been saying same for over three decades) that there is nothing which is magic. I have dared the greatest magicians to try their magic upon me and offered to stand in their magic circles and take the full brunt of collective energies they can muster.