Still, as a human with a soul, I feel there are some other things that I have touched upon that require some more discussion or 'fleshing out'. We are never safe from surprises until we are dead and maybe not even then. There truly are more things in heaven and earth than you or I have ever dreamed of. After John brought me the copy of Bill Joy's manifesto in Wired Magazine from early this year we engaged in a great deal of turmoil about the end of humanity as we know it. Joy was saying the 'Unabomber' Ted Kaczynski was a prophet who he was glad knew little about technology and how to make the kinds of things that really threaten our future. I wrote a response that I gave John to scan onto the web. I believe John did not do this due to his perception that 'Time Travel' is ridiculously 'off the wall'. I was shown correct when NEC demonstrated 300X light speed within a year's time. I suppose it is safe for me to say that John has had a rude awakening in the months since that time. Mr. Joy did an excellent job in telling some things that need to be told and as the co-founder of Sun Microsystems his influence may actually be the kind of thing that we can all take some hope from. He correctly states the issue when he says: "Knowing is not an excuse to not ACT!" The Luddites of Kaczynski's letter are acting and so are many others whose agendas might not lead to a happy future for John's children.
Joy's article is titled 'Why the future doesn't need us.', with a heading or sub-title that says; 'Our most powerful 21st Century technologies - robotics, genetic engineering, and nanotech - are threatening to make humans an endangered species.' After quoting Kaczynski's Unabomber Manifesto he says: "The 21st-century technologies - genetics, nanotechnology and robotics (GNR) - are so powerful that they can spawn whole new classes of accidents and abuses. Most dangerously, for the first time, these accidents and abuses are widely within the reach of individuals or small groups. They will not require large facilities or rare raw materials. Knowledge alone will enable the use of them.
Thus we have the possibility not just of weapons of mass destruction but of knowledge-enabled mass destruction (KMD), this destructiveness hugely amplified by the power of self-replication.
I think it is no exaggeration to say we are on the cusp of the further perfection of extreme evil, an evil whose possibility spreads well beyond that which weapons of mass destruction bequeathed to the nation-states, on to a surprising and terrible empowerment of extreme individuals."
He wasn't even addressing what 60 Minutes did a couple of months later when they told how drug lords could take out Houston by the ‘net' without even stepping foot in the U. S. His words are strong and I think he freely accepts responsibility for his part in the 'evil empowerment'. He probably has knowledge of some of the things we have covered under 'Mind Control' though; and the fact that he doesn't mention these threats reflects what Bertrand Russell said in the quote at the beginning of this chapter - 'confined to the governing class'. If he is to be fully honest I would expect some reference to the FEAR he generates having some part to play in justifying the use of mind-control of a massive sort. This article should generate fear among the populace and it is good to see it. I am concerned about his lack of talk about telomeres and the immortality gene-therapy that is either with us or just around the corner. He addresses genetics but not this - he addresses the immortality robots will offer to those willing to dump their consciousness into them. Would it not also be a sociological threat to create a new type of human and have them be the upper class powerful political elite?
Mr. Joy also said; "I have long realized that the big advances in information technology come not from the work of computer scientists, computer architects, or electrical engineers, but from that of physical scientists. The physicists Stephen Wolfram and Brosl Hasslacher introduced me, in the early 1980's, to chaos theory and nonlinear systems. In the 1990's, I learned about complex systems from conversations with Danny Hillis, the biologist Stuart Kauffman, the Nobel-laureate Murray Gell-man, and others. Most recently, Hasslacher and the electrical engineer and device physicists Mark Reed have been giving me insight into the incredible possibilities of molecular electronics… {I saw in Scientific American where another atomic research group at Oak Ridges National Laboratories developed the use of spinach chlorophyll receptors for complex computer components.} Given the incredible power of these new technologies, shouldn't we be asking how we can best coexist with them? And if our own extinction is a likely, or even possible, outcome of our technological development, shouldn't we proceed with great caution?... How soon could such an intelligent robot be built? The coming advances in computing power seem to make it possible by 2030. And once an intelligent robot exists, it is only a small step to a robot species - to an intelligent robot that can make evolved copies of itself... But if we are downloaded into our technology, what are the chances that we will thereafter be ourselves or even human? It seems to me far more likely that a robotic existence would not be like a human one in any sense that we understand, that the robots would in no sense be our children...
The enabling breakthrough to assemblers seems quite likely within the next twenty years. Molecular electronics - the new subfield of nanotechnology where individual molecules are circuit elements - should mature quickly and become enormously lucrative within this decade, causing a large incremental investment in all nanotechnologies… An immediate consequence of the Faustian bargain in obtaining the great power of nanotechnology is that we run at great risk - the risk that we might destroy the biosphere on which all life depends.
As Drexler explained:
'Plants' with 'leaves' no more efficient than today's solar cells could out-compete real plants, crowding the biosphere with an inedible foliage. Tough omnivorous 'bacteria' could out-compete real bacteria: They could spread like blowing pollen, replicate swiftly, and reduce the biosphere to dust in a matter of days. Dangerous replicators could easily be too tough, Small, and rapidly spreading to stop - at least if we make no preparation. We have trouble enough controlling viruses and fruit flies... It is even possible that self-replication may be more fundamental than we thought, and hence harder - or even impossible - to control. A recent article by Stuart Kauffman in NATURE titled 'Self-Replication: Even Peptides Do IT' discusses the discovery that a 32-amino-acid peptide can 'autocatalyse its own synthesis.' We don't know how widespread this ability is, but Kauffman notes that it may hint at a 'route to self-reproducing molecular systems on a basis far wider than Watson-Crick base-pairing.’�
My letter to him deals tangentially with this, and adepthood 'attunements' with 'spiritual reality' that is fundamental to the issues raised in the very generation of thought, and 'soul' that the Mayans and others say is in everything. With the advent of replicators and robots doing our work why are our leaders teaching us to be robots still? What is the true state of planning and 'contingency planning' that secret think tanks and the Bilderbergs or others think is our best future? Mr. Joy continues: "I don't know where these people hide their fear. As an architect of complex systems I enter this arena as a generalist. But should this diminish my concerns? I am aware of how much has been written about, talked about, and lectured about so authoritatively. But does this mean it has reached people? Does this mean we can discount the dangers before us?�
So 'authoritatively', he says these things; and I hope you see the potential for the true authorities to avoid the MORAL issues he seems to think the 'people' have some input to make changes about. I think we must 'question authority' arid insist on a return to 'The Brotherhood of Man' or else! I hope that each of US can enable our brethren to actualize our potential and the utopian possibilities that these advancing technologies offer. It seems an unlikely prospect though; when even Mr. Joy is unwilling to call for an end to sovereign rights that protect leaders against the basic rights of their citizens like women who are abused the world over. I am reminded again of what Bertrand Russell's grandmother wrote in his Bible: 'Thou shalt NOT, follow a multitude to do EVIL!'
Here is my letter written before the issue of TIME TRAVEL became so apparent due to 300 times light speed, S-A's 'Quantum Teleportation' and the last chapter, on mind control.
In hopes you are more than another 'guilt-ridden proselyte'!
Thanks for your somewhat belated warning about the technologically enhanced moral morass we are trapped by! I want you to know it made a big impression on my older brother. I hope he will be 'moved' to committed action just as you appear to be on the verge of doing.
I have reason to believe you have overlooked the extent and degree of the problem, as well as the speed with which it is descending down upon US! I also think I have some insight into potential solutions, other than uplifting the Moral Leadership and 'holding THEM in the LIGHT'. I have been committed to these efforts for some time and I welcome the ALARM you have sounded.
We (the human race) have faced such things before. I am not just referring to the biologics that led to the decimation of the arguably MOST spiritual and beautiful place on earth, five hundred years ago. The 70 million Native Americans who boasted libraries, large buildings, beautiful gardens and mathematics more advanced than anywhere (zero development by Mayans, etc.) else on Earth, at that time. It is true that earlier civilizations such as that of Asoka, or what existed in the city of Alexandria (which had small steam engines, slot machines, lighthouses, multideck ocean liners, etc.) may have been even more advanced. There is plentiful evidence of even more advanced cells or cults of expertise, beyond all of these, in more remote history.
This 'history' that began with the destruction of the libraries at Alexandria and Bangor has relegated the truth of a ‘Brotherhood of Man' to the nether regions of Pre-history. The North American Indians were part of this 'Brotherhood' and even when their numbers were reduced to 4 million (from 70) by the 'plague' (which was known about 3,000 years before according to recent archaeology, and could be cured by the work of those like Paracelsus who cured the whole city of Stertzing) brought by agents and mercenaries of the church. Even though 300 tribes or cultures disappeared from our midst, and the remainder were often sparsely distributed and scarcely able to fend for themselves, they continued to behave according to the code of the 'Brotherhood' and LOVE (e.g. coup counting rather than killing).
Taoist mystics such as the Dalai Lama, who you quote, are capable of fantastic attunements. I know of many adepthoods, and have met adepts, (if not by my own efforts) who can do things, that in conjunction with your 'Molecular Electronics' will enable the things you envisage before the passage of five years, with another five to work up production and work out the bugs. I was a partner of a NASA consultant who knew of Carnegie Mellon’s (AI) work in 1984, and we talked of fiber optic chips and other high speed computing that Space Shuttle flights would enable through light speed computing fifteen years ago. In fact these adepts have created such artificial or animate life from inanimate form, for thousands of years.
The research at Sudbury, Ontario on cosmic particles included the shielding effects of the earth have an interesting 'clue' to provide you. They have spliced and separated particles of a sub-atomic nature, leading to two separate pieces of a previous whole particle. When separated by millions of their former size in distance, a MOST amazing thing was witnessed. When they energized one - the other part responded, your peptides self-synthesis, is connected with this observation. This may prove the 'consciousness' (in physical terms) that Eugene Wigner and the authors of his respected Mandukya Upanishads (that deals with 'AUM') is a fact. We naively call these things ESP they are connections that go by many different names, in our culturally vernacularized simplicity. It provides your molecular level bio-RAM technology with inherent attributes. This will accelerate TIME TRAVEL and a whole host of probabilities. You appear to be aware of some of these things. When Stephen Hawking visited the Sudbury site last summer, a reporter asked him about Time Travel. He responded by confirming particle level Time Travel is a known fact; but he said he did not believe we'd ever achieve highly complex human 'organism' Time Travel. He is wrong! You are an expert at networking (LAN, etc.) expansive terminals and know that molecular computers will be able to maintain a 'collective' like the BORG you speak of, I am sure. Thus Time Travel has a real future, even if the adepts who are doing it, only 'view' or hallucinate about time. You will find some opportunities to prolong life and the existence of humanity are existent in this potential. There is a scarier side to this knowledge than what you are contemplating, however!
Albert Einstein was a great man of excellent vision morally. He pushed for an International Police Force and the end to 'Standing Armies' and their attendant secret agencies of 'Intelligence' gathering, for most of his adult life. You broach this issue with apparent desire to avoid it in favor of 'status quo' sovereignty which is just one thing that LOVE would seek to change, though it may have to be phased in. Unfortunately nations do operate at odds with the human rights of their citizens and their own laws. The immoral and barbaric treatment of women and those who have been diminished by powerful agents of hegemony between the church and patriarchal despots MUST be dealt with: If we hope to create a MORAL society with the strength to deal with these truly awesome technologies. You are right about them being out of 'Pandora's Box' and you are part of the group that has brought them out, as you admit. You are feeling the pangs of guilt in reference to this and you are taking some Karmic action to exorcise yourself, perhaps. Einstein was right and now we must go even further, by registering and ensuring the verifiable 'transparency' of all these technologies. You acknowledge this verifiability is an opportunity not yet (or likely soon) made REAL in reference to Nuclear, Biologic and Chemical issues. And you know these newer technologies you are speaking about are more accessible, lucrative and even productive so they will be harder to manage with this needed regulation.
The fact that these particles or your molecules in computers are 'consciously connected' provides insight to the concepts elucidated by Jung and in the 'direct cognition' of the knowledge in the Akashic. Herein lays our greatest hope despite the 'reductivist' and conventional paradigm that denies the existence of the soul. The proper development of humanity and the proper management of the technological and ecological 'fallout' from our egoistic and competitive urges for Power (Sex) and Money (Greed), is what this is about at one level. The virtuous behavior of people willing to do more than pay 'lip service' to HOT or 'fad' issues must be brought together to address fundamental principles for change. I hope this letter will lead to a dialogue that enables you to be such a virtuous person. Many of US await your participation in this 'New Age' of MORALITY!
Pretty pompous and patronizing isn't it? If I was to write it today I would have a lot more data about proven things relating to Time Travel and other threats (such as 60 Minutes! expose on 'taking out Houston'). I would deal with the secrets of Mind Control and ask him if he knew about the use of the technologies he has developed in these areas or the work of Bearden and Persinger. I would point out that if he didn't then he is just a front for people who aren't telling him the truth. There is a real possibility we have a lot less time than he thinks. The governing forces in control of these technologies may have plans to circumvent us, and program us or empower themselves in other insidious ways. If they are really good guys and have our interests at heart then they should have no difficulty telling us what they are doing and planning. If it is rogue elements in our secret agencies or behind the politicos then they should be willing to take a serious independent look at it. In any event I hope that the issue is brought out of the darkness that will help mushrooms to grow when fed bullshit.
RECOMMENDATIONS:
1. Make LOVE a vital force in every bureaucracy and political decision.
2. Create a group of well-respected advisors to government who make society aware of what is going on and uses their influence to get the governments to make the necessary changes. Perhaps six top people like the Kelts; and one hundred others who take the message throughout the world. (e.g. Bill Joy, Oprah, Craig Ventner, The Dalai Lama, Deepak Chopra, Gloria Steinem)
3. Create an International Police Force and make trade sanctions a part of the incentive to end the war on women.
4. Empower people and make space colonization an Earth owned venture that all people share in the rewards of.
5. Tax churches that don't promote 'Brotherhood' or who won't allow women in their highest ecclesiastical offices.
6. Use the mind programming to build ethics and ecumenicism under citizen oversight.

I like it, I think I read Bills original article in a compliation book called "Taking the Red Pill, Philosophy, Science, and Religion, in the Matrix", I'm interested in crossover theories.

Robert,

can you expand on the final line in you post?... "use the mind programming to build ethics and ecumenicision under citizen oversight"

peace

Good question!

First of all one must know the extent to which mind control is in use already - in education with hypnosis, in medicine with drugs, in religion through various rituals, and now through machine-enhanced means including gradual emotional cloning such as Persinger and the DIA employ as well as more invasive individual programming or brainwashing. The latter may soon be used on space-based platforms such as SDI will allow along with HAARP. Then there is the implanting of nanotechnologically developed things about to happen.

They will have the ability to do things that impact the whole world and perhaps have been using the World Mind (ZARG according to one author - I think Bearden and Ira Einhorn) for a long time already.

We have many links to various approaches being taken that are already here on this site but there are hundreds more I could put here.

Your question - has to do with the use of mind control in a positive manner such as I suggest could be done. Of course it is easy to say - NONE should be done at all - but that is already not likely even if it were possible. The many therapists who used to use hypnosis are finding their patients are already hypnotized are just part of why I say that.

I think citizen oversight through a Council reporting to the people (Brotherhood of Man thread) so that the voters might be able to trust the vote has some meaning is a good way to go. I think this Council that would have no pay and no authority (all funds or assets in a blind trust) is the only way this might occur. As long as we have cronyistic bureaucracy and elites who are 'bent' on more power we must seek alternative ways to get our information.

Thus - once this trusted oversight exists they can tell people that they will use this new technology to help them cleanse their emotional attachments to old religious controls and allow nations who are signed on to the Principles of honest government for all on earth to use the technology. They can also use it as a non-lethal weapon in psy-ops (which they are doing already) to deal with extremist governments and get the people prepared for a new form of living and ways to look at their lives.

At present they are not able to re-work the mind totally and overcome religious programming as we see in Iraq despite the success documented in Gulf War One when a whole regiment in a bunker surrendered to a remote or drone helicopter with a bullhorn.

But if they had the support of many nations who would not trade with rogue nations and the with-holing of other valued and sought after technology I think they would be able to achieve great things.

This is a two sided sword because they are not being honest with us about what they have and plan to do with it.

I've never tried, but do you know if it is easy to work out the rules of mind control in this world? Are there basic few guidelines or is the complexity so great that it can't be done?

Dear Laz

I think you are talking about self control and other good things like Silva Mind Control - the work of Persinger, Delgado and others is not beneficial to the person.

I met Jose Silva and took healing classes over a decade later from his daughter.

Thanks dude, i'll check them out