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I saw the Passion of Christ in the movies earlier today. It was ok. I can't really recommend it cause it was biased, probalby overly gory, and some parts ridiculous.
Hmmm....I WANT to see it...BUT it is not on here in Germany yet....
My husband saw it, and liked it. I didnt see it nor do I want to see it. Not the type of movie for me!
Dara
Dara
I saw it too, and think it's the type of movie that's arguably worth seeing at least once, but I agree that parts of the movie unintentionally degenerated into the ridiculous, comical, absurd, and overly-simplistic. Based on this movie, one could easily conclude that director/producer Mel Gibson doesn't quite grasp the profound depths of religion and of the religious experience (though I doubt this comes as a big surprise to anyone). Nonetheless, he should be commended for his efforts.
keeping in mind i haven't seen it yet and i'm not sure if i will, i'd say that determining whether he 'succeeded' or not depends on what his goal was.
Money, historical/biblical recreation or evoking a strong emotional reaction or something else entirely? Judging from the reactions, i'd say he succeded at both the money and the emotional reaction but who can say i guess.
Money, historical/biblical recreation or evoking a strong emotional reaction or something else entirely? Judging from the reactions, i'd say he succeded at both the money and the emotional reaction but who can say i guess.
(more email from grandma)
An email going around from Dr. Mark S. Komrad
I have just returned from seeing Gibson's, movie "The Passion of the
Christ." I wanted to share my opinions with you, if you chose to read
them. I viewed this film as a Jew and a psychiatrist, along with about
30 other Jews. I wished to see it in order to evaluate it for myself in
the midst of the enormous controversy surrounding it, and various claims
that it was either benign or malignant in its depictions of the Jews.
In viewing the media and the buzz all over the internet about this
movie, I think this is the single most controversial and publicized film
of my lifetime. Therefore, I feel compelled to weigh in with my opinion
to some of my own correspondents.
It was the unanimous opinion of all 30 Jews in attendance, including
myself, that any journalist, critic, or clergypers on who pronounced this
film "benign" for the Jews must have seen a different version than is
currently being screened in theaters. Despite being very open going into
it, and hopeful, I am sad to report that I find this movie the most
potentially disastrous development for Jewish public relations that I
have personally encountered in my lifetime, outside of recent events in
Israel.
In its flagrant violation of almost every guideline the Vatican has
issued regarding how the Passion story should be depicted, the Jewish
people and its leadership are shown clearly and without ambiguity to be
the instigators of the betrayal and horrible torture of Jesus--depicted
with extreme gruesomness. In fact, the Jewish leadership, backed by huge
masses of the Jewish people, are shown in the most explicit way to put
pressure on Pontius Pilate to not just kill Jesus but to subject him to
the tortures that would become an essential and detailed part of his
martyrdom in history. The portrayal of the guilt of the Jewish people
and their leadership is not subtle, and its difficult "spin doctor" it
away. As an audience member, I found myself having very negative
feelings towards the Jews who are shown to recruit the pre-existing
sadism of the Romans to make an example of a prophet who was subverting
the Jewish status quo by claiming to be the Messiah.
Many of you know that I have been lecturing for several years about how
Hollywood depicts psychiatrists. I became interested in this because,
the primary instrument of public education today is the movies, and most
of what people know about who psychiatrists are and what they do is from
the cinema. In this case, though the Bible may be the most read book in
the world, the public now gets its education far more from the movies
than even the Bible. Movies now are to public education, what
stained-glass windows and architrave carving s were for the masses
attending Cathedrals in the Middle Ages--the public educator of the
masses.
More importantly, movies are so powerful, so psychologically arousing,
so present, that the facts they teach may actually be less important
than the emotional impressions they leave behind. Long after the factual
aspects of a movie plot fade from memory, the emotional residue
persists, leaving an "aftertaste" in the unconscious which is far more
instrumental in forming opinions, in my professional experience, than
rational arguments or facts.
This is why "The Passion" is a disaster for the Jews. The FEELING one
gets for the Jews in the film is horribly negative, indeed evil. There
are actually many images of Satan in the movie, moving amongst the
masses of jeering Jewish people, leaving a powerful impressionistic
image associating Jews with evil. Their role in precipitating,
facilitating and even applauding the suffering of J esus is blasted into
the viewer through every aspect of the movie's craft: the plot, the
music, the photography, expressions on the faces of the Cohanim (the
high priests). At the end, there is an earthquake rupturing the Jewish
Temple, and the high priest is in terror. It doesn't take sophisticated
powers of abstraction to see this scene as divine punishment for an
awful deed committed by the Jews. God is shown to be very angry with
them.
Remember, this is not "just a movie." This is the story of the Christian
God. It is no metaphor to say this is "Gospel". It may not accurately
represent the Gospel of John, from which it is drawn. But its a movie,
and now movies outrank even the Bible--not in the conscious, but in the
collective unconscious.
Even a rational, educated, historically savvy moviegoer is very likely
to leave this film with an extremely negative impression of the Jews. I
did! Without getting into discussions a bout Mel Gibson, his father, his
conscious intentions, his unconscious intentions, just looking at the
film for itself rather than at its maker, I am deeply troubled.
The beast of anti-Semitism is an ancient one. At best it slumbers; it
has not died. Recent world events show that this beast is now awakening,
especially overseas. It has still been largely slumbering here in
America. I truly worry that the sleeping beast can be aroused by this
film, and the awakened beast overseas can be incited into agita. The
Passion story has been one of the primary recurrent triggers of the
human shadow and its horrors for almost 1500 years, a perennial stimulus
to anti-Semitism--even in some of the most enlightened epochs of history
(e.g., "the Golden Age" of Spain).
This movie has the power to percolate amongst the coffee grounds of the
unconscious, to create a deep impression, a taste, a feeling which can
trickle through the filter of peo ple's religious "passion," and brew a
dark elixir indeed.
One might say: "People are too enlightened nowadays to fall prey to
these kinds of feelings, too educated, trained to be sensitive,
thoughtful and rational." My answer to this is that such optimism is
delightful, and comforting, but represents a rather sophomoric view of
human psychology. It fails to take in the lessons of such things as the
Holocaust (which Gibson Sr. rejects as real and therefore has no
lesson), Rwanda, 9/11, gay-bashing, Ireland, the Middle-East, and a sad,
long litany of other contemporary demonstrations of the human shadow
unleashed, often by educated, enlightened, God-worshiping people.
It is actually my opinion that all Jewish people should see this
film--not to give money to El Gibson, but to see what has the potential
to be an alarm clock which can awaken the beast. We have to know what we
face, and it isn't pretty. Then, we all need to educ ate ourselves about
the known historical facts of the story, the contradictions of the
Gospels, the distortions of those very Gospels by this film and the more
enlightened views of the contemporary Catholic Church. We need to
proactively try to recruit the consciousness of Christians who see this
film to fortify conscious understanding, which is the only way to
neutralize the unconscious, hateful impressions about the Jews. which
the film instills.
If I, a devoted Jew, can walk out of this film hating the Jews depicted
therein, how much more affected will be a devoted Christian? Through
discourse about this film between Jews and Christians (informed by
actually seeing the film, not just be reading emails like this and
reviews--like Newsweek's--designed to keep peace and calm) we may have
some hope of helping to keep that awful beast slumbering-along until,
one day, it dies.
http://www.komrad.yourmd.com/
An email going around from Dr. Mark S. Komrad
I have just returned from seeing Gibson's, movie "The Passion of the
Christ." I wanted to share my opinions with you, if you chose to read
them. I viewed this film as a Jew and a psychiatrist, along with about
30 other Jews. I wished to see it in order to evaluate it for myself in
the midst of the enormous controversy surrounding it, and various claims
that it was either benign or malignant in its depictions of the Jews.
In viewing the media and the buzz all over the internet about this
movie, I think this is the single most controversial and publicized film
of my lifetime. Therefore, I feel compelled to weigh in with my opinion
to some of my own correspondents.
It was the unanimous opinion of all 30 Jews in attendance, including
myself, that any journalist, critic, or clergypers on who pronounced this
film "benign" for the Jews must have seen a different version than is
currently being screened in theaters. Despite being very open going into
it, and hopeful, I am sad to report that I find this movie the most
potentially disastrous development for Jewish public relations that I
have personally encountered in my lifetime, outside of recent events in
Israel.
In its flagrant violation of almost every guideline the Vatican has
issued regarding how the Passion story should be depicted, the Jewish
people and its leadership are shown clearly and without ambiguity to be
the instigators of the betrayal and horrible torture of Jesus--depicted
with extreme gruesomness. In fact, the Jewish leadership, backed by huge
masses of the Jewish people, are shown in the most explicit way to put
pressure on Pontius Pilate to not just kill Jesus but to subject him to
the tortures that would become an essential and detailed part of his
martyrdom in history. The portrayal of the guilt of the Jewish people
and their leadership is not subtle, and its difficult "spin doctor" it
away. As an audience member, I found myself having very negative
feelings towards the Jews who are shown to recruit the pre-existing
sadism of the Romans to make an example of a prophet who was subverting
the Jewish status quo by claiming to be the Messiah.
Many of you know that I have been lecturing for several years about how
Hollywood depicts psychiatrists. I became interested in this because,
the primary instrument of public education today is the movies, and most
of what people know about who psychiatrists are and what they do is from
the cinema. In this case, though the Bible may be the most read book in
the world, the public now gets its education far more from the movies
than even the Bible. Movies now are to public education, what
stained-glass windows and architrave carving s were for the masses
attending Cathedrals in the Middle Ages--the public educator of the
masses.
More importantly, movies are so powerful, so psychologically arousing,
so present, that the facts they teach may actually be less important
than the emotional impressions they leave behind. Long after the factual
aspects of a movie plot fade from memory, the emotional residue
persists, leaving an "aftertaste" in the unconscious which is far more
instrumental in forming opinions, in my professional experience, than
rational arguments or facts.
This is why "The Passion" is a disaster for the Jews. The FEELING one
gets for the Jews in the film is horribly negative, indeed evil. There
are actually many images of Satan in the movie, moving amongst the
masses of jeering Jewish people, leaving a powerful impressionistic
image associating Jews with evil. Their role in precipitating,
facilitating and even applauding the suffering of J esus is blasted into
the viewer through every aspect of the movie's craft: the plot, the
music, the photography, expressions on the faces of the Cohanim (the
high priests). At the end, there is an earthquake rupturing the Jewish
Temple, and the high priest is in terror. It doesn't take sophisticated
powers of abstraction to see this scene as divine punishment for an
awful deed committed by the Jews. God is shown to be very angry with
them.
Remember, this is not "just a movie." This is the story of the Christian
God. It is no metaphor to say this is "Gospel". It may not accurately
represent the Gospel of John, from which it is drawn. But its a movie,
and now movies outrank even the Bible--not in the conscious, but in the
collective unconscious.
Even a rational, educated, historically savvy moviegoer is very likely
to leave this film with an extremely negative impression of the Jews. I
did! Without getting into discussions a bout Mel Gibson, his father, his
conscious intentions, his unconscious intentions, just looking at the
film for itself rather than at its maker, I am deeply troubled.
The beast of anti-Semitism is an ancient one. At best it slumbers; it
has not died. Recent world events show that this beast is now awakening,
especially overseas. It has still been largely slumbering here in
America. I truly worry that the sleeping beast can be aroused by this
film, and the awakened beast overseas can be incited into agita. The
Passion story has been one of the primary recurrent triggers of the
human shadow and its horrors for almost 1500 years, a perennial stimulus
to anti-Semitism--even in some of the most enlightened epochs of history
(e.g., "the Golden Age" of Spain).
This movie has the power to percolate amongst the coffee grounds of the
unconscious, to create a deep impression, a taste, a feeling which can
trickle through the filter of peo ple's religious "passion," and brew a
dark elixir indeed.
One might say: "People are too enlightened nowadays to fall prey to
these kinds of feelings, too educated, trained to be sensitive,
thoughtful and rational." My answer to this is that such optimism is
delightful, and comforting, but represents a rather sophomoric view of
human psychology. It fails to take in the lessons of such things as the
Holocaust (which Gibson Sr. rejects as real and therefore has no
lesson), Rwanda, 9/11, gay-bashing, Ireland, the Middle-East, and a sad,
long litany of other contemporary demonstrations of the human shadow
unleashed, often by educated, enlightened, God-worshiping people.
It is actually my opinion that all Jewish people should see this
film--not to give money to El Gibson, but to see what has the potential
to be an alarm clock which can awaken the beast. We have to know what we
face, and it isn't pretty. Then, we all need to educ ate ourselves about
the known historical facts of the story, the contradictions of the
Gospels, the distortions of those very Gospels by this film and the more
enlightened views of the contemporary Catholic Church. We need to
proactively try to recruit the consciousness of Christians who see this
film to fortify conscious understanding, which is the only way to
neutralize the unconscious, hateful impressions about the Jews. which
the film instills.
If I, a devoted Jew, can walk out of this film hating the Jews depicted
therein, how much more affected will be a devoted Christian? Through
discourse about this film between Jews and Christians (informed by
actually seeing the film, not just be reading emails like this and
reviews--like Newsweek's--designed to keep peace and calm) we may have
some hope of helping to keep that awful beast slumbering-along until,
one day, it dies.
http://www.komrad.yourmd.com/
Interesting letter, Ryokirah, though I don't think the movie is a disaster for the Jews. The fact that this Komrad fellow walked out of the theater "hating Jews" speaks volumes about Komrad much more so than about the movie itself. I watched the movie, and had no such reaction. Wasn't Jesus a Jew, after all? And wasn't his dictum not to hate anyone, including your enemies?
Shows how powerful a stranglehold Hollywood has on the people of today. And give it time, and a movie of the Crusades and the atrocities therein will come out. But it will not get such promotion, because the Christians hold such a strong place at the top of our religious society. Lets hear about the inquisition that destroyed so many women for being "brides of Satan".
HA! It's so funny you mention that!
here's another one she sent me but i can't really verify it. That's why i didn't put it here before.
Spielberg's Answer to Gibson's Passion: I'm filming The Crusades
Hollywood Mega-hit Producer and Director Steven Spielberg has decided to fight fire with fire. He's announced that since Mel Gibson is fueling the fires of anti-semitism in the world with his movie about the last hours
of Christ, Spielberg will make a graphic movie about the Crusades. In order to get Jews and Moslems to convert to Christianity, Spielberg commented, Christians went through Europe and into the Middle East
forcing conversions on non-believers. Along the way they raped, beat,
bludgeoned, maimed, tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children. I will show Christian brutality in a realistic and most graphic and gory way.
Spielberg went on to add that the movie will have a well-deserved
anti-Christian tone. Lets face it, Gibson wants to blame the Jews for
the death of one person we didn't even kill. I will show the inhuman brutality of thousands of Christians against hundreds of thousands of people of other faiths, about which historically there is no ambiguity as to who is to blame. Spielberg said that if this movie is successful, he is
likely to follow it up with The Spanish Inquisition, a historical film on the
torture and murder of the Jews of Spain by the Catholic Church.
To complete the trilogy, Spielberg announced, in 2006 I will be filming Hitler and the Pope: A Team Formed in Hell. That should generate some heated debate.
here's another one she sent me but i can't really verify it. That's why i didn't put it here before.
Spielberg's Answer to Gibson's Passion: I'm filming The Crusades
Hollywood Mega-hit Producer and Director Steven Spielberg has decided to fight fire with fire. He's announced that since Mel Gibson is fueling the fires of anti-semitism in the world with his movie about the last hours
of Christ, Spielberg will make a graphic movie about the Crusades. In order to get Jews and Moslems to convert to Christianity, Spielberg commented, Christians went through Europe and into the Middle East
forcing conversions on non-believers. Along the way they raped, beat,
bludgeoned, maimed, tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children. I will show Christian brutality in a realistic and most graphic and gory way.
Spielberg went on to add that the movie will have a well-deserved
anti-Christian tone. Lets face it, Gibson wants to blame the Jews for
the death of one person we didn't even kill. I will show the inhuman brutality of thousands of Christians against hundreds of thousands of people of other faiths, about which historically there is no ambiguity as to who is to blame. Spielberg said that if this movie is successful, he is
likely to follow it up with The Spanish Inquisition, a historical film on the
torture and murder of the Jews of Spain by the Catholic Church.
To complete the trilogy, Spielberg announced, in 2006 I will be filming Hitler and the Pope: A Team Formed in Hell. That should generate some heated debate.
Huzzah! I'll definately watch that. And I'm considering going to see the passion of the christ. The Crusades one is believable, but I'm not so sure whether "Hitler and the Pope" is an actual idea, or just a pretty crude dig at their pride. Anywhoo, that's something pretty interesting.....heh, go Speilberg.
Unfortunately, I checked, and that Crusades thing is a fake. Too bad, I would have enjoyed it. Interesting to know, though, it's Gibson's left hand driving in the nails in "Passion".
i guess all we have is Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to then
no! omg that movies was the freaking best! OMG! it was SUPOSED to gory thast exaclty wat the heck happened to him! its exaclty how its suposed to be! im not all into that anymore but it made even ME cry....t was the best and if you DONT have a weak stomach, you have to watch it
The movie is not anti-Semitic in the least. The guy who said 30 Jews watching the movie and all thought it is anti-Semitic I believing is not telling the truth. Most of the people who criticize the film have NOT read the Bible. Christ was beaten beyond recognition. Like Schindler's List or Saving Private Ryan, to Christians this is a true event that happened....history. For 99% of the movie this stuck to the Biblical story, being all in all very accurate.
Great acting, great music...not a movie that makes you feel good but that is not its intention. And for those who said Satan appears only behind the Jews...another outright lie. I saw the movie twice...he appears once behind the disciples when Satan is tempting Jesus, and again behind the Roman soldiers, who are absolutely brutal savages in the movie. If anyone really understood Christianity they would understand Jesus was on a mission to die and had to die for mankind's sins...who killed Him is beside the point, and in a sense, we all did.
Great acting, great music...not a movie that makes you feel good but that is not its intention. And for those who said Satan appears only behind the Jews...another outright lie. I saw the movie twice...he appears once behind the disciples when Satan is tempting Jesus, and again behind the Roman soldiers, who are absolutely brutal savages in the movie. If anyone really understood Christianity they would understand Jesus was on a mission to die and had to die for mankind's sins...who killed Him is beside the point, and in a sense, we all did.
[COLOR=purple]has anyone here heard the expression forgive and forget....it seems everyone would get along a lot better if you just got rid of the religions.
and Robin Hood:Prince of Thieves is the best movie ever!
Oh, how thankful I am for the enlightening insight by sweetthang. Seems this is a pretty controversial movie. I don't think I can comment until I see it.
And how come no one is taking the Romans' side? Oh yeah, because theirs is an empire that faded into obscurity long ago. A movie can't be prejudiced toward a group that no longer exists, right?
And how come no one is taking the Romans' side? Oh yeah, because theirs is an empire that faded into obscurity long ago. A movie can't be prejudiced toward a group that no longer exists, right?
on a much lighter note...
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/25/1079939761567.html
hooray for monty python!
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/25/1079939761567.html
hooray for monty python!
ExodusNights are you being sarcastic? serioulsy i dont need that, i was stating my opioin and if you didnt like it you didnt have to read it por you could have just said shove it i dont agree with you... but if ur NOT being sarcastic im sorry, but i thought they were doing a GREAT job with that movie, and besides that, it was suposed to be saying the romans were "bad" people, thats how it happened. there was nothign wrong with that movie, it was awesome.
Heh, if the Romans were so awful, I wonder why the United States has been modeled after the old Republic? They're even starting to follow the great Roman tradition of expansion and empire. But that belongs in politics, not movies.
sweetTHANG, you're more than entitled to your opinion. Anyone who knows me (or has read more than a few of my posts) knows that I respect everyones opinions. However, my only qualm lies in the fact that I absolutely LOATHE poor grammar, spelling, and those little anagrams like WTF and LOL and OMG. Instant Message speak is not a language I have any respect for. You just bore the brunt of that, and I apoligise. I'm sure you're a perfectly good person.
sweetTHANG, you're more than entitled to your opinion. Anyone who knows me (or has read more than a few of my posts) knows that I respect everyones opinions. However, my only qualm lies in the fact that I absolutely LOATHE poor grammar, spelling, and those little anagrams like WTF and LOL and OMG. Instant Message speak is not a language I have any respect for. You just bore the brunt of that, and I apoligise. I'm sure you're a perfectly good person.
well no sorry lol i was just lke in a bad mood but ya i dont type right bcuz i honlesty dont care, so sorry
entertaining tidbit: the guys at www.fark.com refer to the movie as the Jesus Chainsaw Massacre.
One Australian critic described it as "Mad Max with thorns......"
Hey, I LIKE that! How delightfully clever. And I think it's time to pull Thunderdome out of the box.
Two man enter, one man leave.
Two man enter, one man leave.
This movie was really good, it had alot of meaning
if you know the bible really deeply you understand what was happening to him.
if you dont know scritptures good than you wont really get it!
if you know the bible really deeply you understand what was happening to him.
if you dont know scritptures good than you wont really get it!
QUOTE(Onfire @ May 18, 05:32 AM) 
This movie was really good, it had alot of meaning
if you know the bible really deeply you understand what was happening to him.
if you dont know scritptures good than you wont really get it!
I've read the bible many times over. It's one of my favorite fictional books of all time. first in its class. Unbelievable imagination. Mel Gibson, on the other hand, is an idiot with a lot of money and lucky enough to have a job where talent is a matter of opinion. He should have never made a movie about the subject knowing he was going to offend so many people. The answer to his stupidity came running down the hallways of some Hollywood studio, thankfully: Munich; and it's probably still resonating in his ears. Quote from that movie: "Don't fu*k with the Jews!" (and I might add to that), You F**K*ng idiot!
QUOTE(code buttons @ May 18, 05:09 PM)
QUOTE(Onfire @ May 18, 05:32 AM)
This movie was really good, it had alot of meaning
if you know the bible really deeply you understand what was happening to him.
if you dont know scritptures good than you wont really get it!
I've read the bible many times over. It's one of my favorite fictional books of all time. first in its class. Unbelievable imagination. Mel Gibson, on the other hand, is an idiot with a lot of money and lucky enough to have a job where talent is a matter of opinion. He should have never made a movie about the subject knowing he was going to offend so many people. The answer to his stupidity came running down the hallways of some Hollywood studio, thankfully: Munich; and it's probably still resonating in his ears. Quote from that movie: "Don't fu*k with the Jews!" (and I might add to that), You F**K*ng idiot!
I have to agree, code. But my real beef is the money that these people get. I include pop singers and footballers. They do a month's work and receive a lifetime's salary. Then they appear on TV asking us to donate to charity. This film was a disaster, a horror flick, worse than pinhead. To see a man get thrashed is nasty. The idea that it is Jesus is a no brainer. Gibson has too much money if he can waste it on this crap. And I mean no disrespect to believers in the fairy-tale.
QUOTE(Hey Hey @ May 18, 11:17 AM)
But my real beef is the money that these people get. I include pop singers and footballers. They do a month's work and receive a lifetime's salary. Then they appear on TV asking us to donate to charity.
So I guess it's true what they say about the British in comparason to the Americans when it comes to the rich, huh?:
- When an American sees a rich passing-by his immediate thoght is: One day I'm going to be that son of a b*tch!
- When a British sees a rich passing-by his immediate thoght is: One day I'm going to kill that son of a b*tch!
QUOTE(code buttons @ May 19, 02:29 PM)
QUOTE(Hey Hey @ May 18, 11:17 AM)
But my real beef is the money that these people get. I include pop singers and footballers. They do a month's work and receive a lifetime's salary. Then they appear on TV asking us to donate to charity.
So I guess it's true what they say about the British in comparason to the Americans when it comes to the rich, huh?:
- When an American sees a rich passing-by his immediate thoght is: One day I'm going to be that son of a b*tch!
- When a British sees a rich passing-by his immediate thoght is: One day I'm going to kill that son of a b*tch!
I'm all for people working hard and getting on in life. But you should try paying the UK taxes and petrol (gas) price, and road tax, and then fall down one of our holes in the road. Not literally, code, but we in the UK are ripped off so much that when we see such enormous amounts of money paid to people who kick balls around it hits hard. I heard just this morning about another footballer who is going to be paid £130,000 (note pounds) each WEEK. And to think, only a couple of weeks ago, people were complaining when they heard that GP's (general doctors) were paid £100,000 each YEAR! And I won't even start about academic salaries!!!! But I can't help mention, my youngest son gained his degree last year and is working in a hospital as an inpatient officer for one year before doing a master's degree. He comes home shattered every evening (also has a one hour travel time each way) for a salary of £12,000 per YEAR! I rest my case.
Inspired by Dean Kamen, founder of FIRST ( http://www.usfirst.org ):
We become what we celebrate. In the USA, our culture celebrates athletes, movie stars, and pop singers. The principles of FIRST seek to change culture by inspiring young people to pursue education and careers in science and technology.
We become what we celebrate. In the USA, our culture celebrates athletes, movie stars, and pop singers. The principles of FIRST seek to change culture by inspiring young people to pursue education and careers in science and technology.
QUOTE(Rick @ May 19, 05:59 PM)
Inspired by Dean Kamen, founder of FIRST ( http://www.usfirst.org ):
We become what we celebrate. In the USA, our culture celebrates athletes, movie stars, and pop singers. The principles of FIRST seek to change culture by inspiring young people to pursue education and careers in science and technology.
Thanks for this info Rick. At least there is some sense in the world.
QUOTE(code buttons @ May 18, 08:09 AM)
I've read the bible many times over. It's one of my favorite fictional books of all time. first in its class. Unbelievable imagination. Mel Gibson, on the other hand, is an idiot with a lot of money and lucky enough to have a job where talent is a matter of opinion. He should have never made a movie about the subject knowing he was going to offend so many people. The answer to his stupidity came running down the hallways of some Hollywood studio, thankfully: Munich; and it's probably still resonating in his ears. Quote from that movie: "Don't fu*k with the Jews!" (and I might add to that), You F**K*ng idiot!
With this news article I rest my case about Mel Gibson : http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Mel_Gibs...ments_0729.html
QUOTE(ganji @ Feb 29, 09:44 PM)
I saw the Passion of Christ in the movies earlier today. It was ok. I can't really recommend it cause it was biased, probalby overly gory, and some parts ridiculous.
I do not like Mel Gibson, he is Nazi Alcoholic Catholic.
The movie is fully anti-Semitic and very brutal.
It inspires religious hatred.
I didn't see the movie, but if it was great portrayal of Jesus' life, then it must have included the scene where he said to love one's neighbor as one's self, and also the scene where he said that the law must be obeyed, but let the one among you who is without sin cast the first stone. Were those scenes in the movie?
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