Full Version: The Absolute and Manifestation
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| It's amusing too, when the dullard (from above post) pokes his head in to make completely irrelevant comments. |
I meant Buck Nekkid, not you, Joesus.
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| So, what does god have to say for himself? |
What are you willing to hear and what are you able to hear?
anything
Oh good, then we will have to drop the relative boundaries in the relativistic perceptions of the infinite in order to hear.
That would be to hear something that was beyond condescension and strictly for your amusement and judgment.
Just a choice.
That would be to hear something that was beyond condescension and strictly for your amusement and judgment.
Just a choice.
The human brain contains two minds, the conscious and postconscious. The conscious is an executive of self-will and works to rule. It is capable of obeying any conceivable set of rules and of reaching any conceivable conclusions but, obviously enough, it is not capable of truth.
The postconscious is a mind whose function is truth, a function it can fulfil because it is entirely free and independent.
The conscious mind can ignore the pc, or submit to its guidance. At present the majority choose to ignore their pc’s, except for conscience.
Conscious minds commonly produce arguments or bodies of reason founded on an invented set of rules. Such arguments may be understandable to others who are familiar with the rules but otherwise, to those unfamiliar with the rules, the arguments are incomprehensible.
The postconscious, on the other hand, works with pure reason, not to invented rules but constantly in pursuit of truth, and it is the same truth for all pc’s. Such is the only viable basis of agreement.
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| The postconscious is a mind whose function is truth, a function it can fulfil because it is entirely free and independent. |
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| The postconscious, on the other hand, works with pure reason, not to invented rules but constantly in pursuit of truth, and it is the same truth for all pc’s. Such is the only viable basis of agreement. |
You lost me here in your opposing statements.
If the pc mind is independant it is independant of what?
In order to be aligned with the same truth for all it would have to be united rather than independant, not only with all pc mind but with the other so that it could not deny the conscious as part and parcel to the opposite that is created to give contrast to realization of the other.
Also if the pc works with pure reason and I am hearing pure as the qualifying adjective, what is it free from that it can fulfil the the function of truth if it is in pursuit of truth? Is it separate from truth and has to find it in order to function, is it impure and needs to be purified to fulfill its function?
Those comments come from the conscious arena. The discipline of Philosophy has produced a mass of complex argument which is never resolved because it comes from the same arena.
The postconscious mind is independent of all interests other than the pursuit of truth.
The pc mind is independent whereas the truth it discovers is universal.
A simple truth does not need the plethora of possible false alternatives to confirm it.
Pure reason is free of the impurities of conscious malreason.
Pure reason, the pursuit of, discovery of and realisation of truth are inseperable parts of the pc’s function.
By excluding its pc, a powerful and ingenious conscious mind can, with the aid of self-will, produce wonderful arguments by the manipulation of reason, but these are irrelevant to the pc with which the individual first and foremost needs to identify if he is to fulfil his humanity and discover and realise humantruth.
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| Those comments come from the conscious arena. The discipline of Philosophy has produced a mass of complex argument which is never resolved because it comes from the same arena. |
This being so then the idea of the pc is meaningless and pointless to the conscious for the conscious has no connection to truth in any conscious expression.This coming from the conscious contains no truth...only malreason or reason.
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| The postconscious mind is independent of all interests other than the pursuit of truth. |
IF the pc has an interest or is pursuant of something then it concieves of ideas or idea and has a direction, which is a trait of your described conscious.
Also if it has a direction such as the pursuit of truth, this description leads to the concept that it does not stand independant but rather stands amidst choice and possibility which would include the idea of non-truth/conscious reality as a possible point of reference to lead to truth. Otherwise there would be no pursuance of an ideal, just isness of being Truth or ideal.
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| The pc mind is independent whereas the truth it discovers is universal. |
Then it is independant of truth and then stands next to truth when it finds it?
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| A simple truth does not need the plethora of possible false alternatives to confirm it. |
then it cannot be described or talked about without giving contrast to alternatives, nor be experienced without contrast in possibilities?
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| Pure reason is free of the impurities of conscious malreason. |
It would seem to give it a name then would be pointless, reason or malreason would have no definition and unless the conscious is connected to the pc in some way to talk about it would be illusory.
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| Pure reason, the pursuit of, discovery of and realisation of truth are inseperable parts of the pc’s function. |
Again youre quoting something that you don't seem to want to describe from an experience, rather contradictory definitions.
If the pc is in pursuit of... where does it begin if it pursues truth? What purity does it contain if it is not complete and pursuant of something? What does it realise if it is not realised and what is it, if it is not realised in pursuit of realization, impure purity? Does it start out in purity to become more pure?
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| By excluding its pc, a powerful and ingenious conscious mind can, with the aid of self-will, produce wonderful arguments by the manipulation of reason, but these are irrelevant to the pc with which the individual first and foremost needs to identify if he is to fulfil his humanity and discover and realise humantruth. |
Now we are getting closer to reality. In this statement you elude to the fact that they are not independant but aware of each other or connected at some level of awareness, to be realized as part of a whole which when understood give greater meaning to reality, or to what you are determining to be truth, or the pursuit of.
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