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pelastration
I developed a holistic cosmological system in which there is no lost of energy. Holistic means that there is Unity or Oneness behind our worlds and dimensions full of conflicting duality.

Einstein said that before our Universe was created there must have been a PRIOR-GEOMETRY. That prior-geometry shaped a kind of METRIC in which matter en energy interacted under certain conditions to create the world - with it's relative positions - we see around us. That metric is spacetime.

In an attempt to explain for myself the universal interconnectivity I made a concept that describes this prior-geometry as a chaotic real spherical membrane. That membrane can be seen as a pure boundary of everything. Thus it is unbreakable. There is nothing inside. The membrane is extreme stretchable (elastic) because the observations of our universe shows all kinds of dynamics. It is genderless. All is there in potency. There is no structural duality (although there an inside and outside depending from the position of the observer).
To me this membrane is spacetime, but time as infinity.

Now that prior-geometry (spacetime) can become dual on certain spots of the membrane. That happens when TWO parts couple. One part (a tube or oscillating peak) of the balloon can penetrate another part. So an active part penetrates a passive part. Male and female. Yang and Yin. But it is not a real 'penetration' because the membrane is unbreakable. So it is more a joining of the two parts in a NEW AREA. In that area the active part is now surrounded by the passive part. Although the two parts are STILL part of the membrane (because that their essence) in the new area you get a 'discrete' or 'Local' COMBINATION of the membrane. That is a HOLON. The holon ( an appearent independent unity) has inside STRUCTURE. So prior-geometry creates 'locally' a duality. Everywhere 'on' the membrane such holons can be created. Holons can make all kind of combinations with other holons and with the basic membrane.

In the human holon we see consciousness, awareness, individual and collective sub-consciousness. All of these are also unique combinations of previous holons. Because they are 'made' of the same membrane they are connected somewhere with each other at certain deeper - underlying - levels.

In next image you can see the human holon in which these states of mind are interconnected. On my webpage : http://www.mu6.com/consciousness.html you will more find images showing you this approach on the difference between day and night and meditation.

Image: user posted image
pelastration
Since I got not reaction at all, I will add a more dynamic image:user posted image

Here you see that there is in our consciouness a CONSTANT SHIFT of ATTENTION.
Just observe you own consciouness.

I did it for three minutes and look what different observations came up.

My three minutes:
- hear a song on the radio: Golden brown.
- look to my browser and see in the left corner the color gray. A nice color.
- My emailer has a red flag.
- my jeans gives a friction on my knees.
- a little pain in my head on the right side.
- notice that I blinked my eyes
- observing myself and ask myself what to write
- another song on the radio ... don't know it ... it makes me nervous.
- don't want to spend the time to change radiostation
- touching my noze
- I spelled noze ... the spelling-corrected indicated it with a red line. I changed it to nose.
- I drink a bite of my beer.
- my right jupiter finger tinkles
....

Thus I see that some ideas or sensored impulses got PRIORITY ... got my attention ... which for some reason overruled less important 'facts'.

So maybe 4 minutes ...
What are yours ... ?

When I reread the first line I notice that indeed past ... I can remember but ... it's no longer NOW.
Janus
That sure is a pretty picture, pelastration. But this membrane, which you say "can be seen as a pure boundary of everything", how do you know there aren't 2 or more membranes? What is the composition of this membrane? Does it give rise to space-time, or does it exist in space-time? In general relativity, it's said that mass-energy tells space how to curve, and space-time tells mass-energy how to move. Is your membrane space-time or mass-energy or both or something else? Does the human holon correspond to the human's consciousness or to his body? Why a membrane, instead of a string or some other topological object?
pelastration
QUOTE (Janus @ Jan 10, 08:35 PM)
That sure is a pretty picture, pelastration.  But this membrane, which you say "can be seen as a pure boundary of everything", how do you know there aren't 2 or more membranes?  What is the composition of this membrane?    Does it give rise to space-time, or does it exist in space-time?  In general relativity, it's said that mass-energy tells space how to curve, and space-time tells mass-energy how to move.    Is your membrane space-time or mass-energy or both or something else?  Does the human holon correspond to the human's consciousness or to his body?  Why a membrane, instead of a string or some other topological object?

Thanks Janus,

I start on top. Meaning a unification. Therefor: one membrane. That is sufficient to tell the rest of the story. On some (zillions) spots it creates dual spots.
Hé ... here the genderless property becomes locally: DUAL. (so that's one 'heavy' philosophical problem solved).

One membrane is now doubled in local spots (holons or Quantum baskets) and the dynamics of the total system becomes in those spots: Interfering action and reaction. Stimulus and response. We call that INTERACTIONS. In physics this means: ElectroMagnetism (called by Maxwell himself: a mechanical force), the weak force: radiation, and the strong force (binding atomic nuclei). On the human level (in much more complex combinations with multiple layers) this brings us that shifting of consciousness. The feed-back of the systems involved brings us LIFE.

In this approach we can say that you have a general body-consciousness (the whole body) in which the brain is the interface, but where sometimes - when important - other deeper levels of consciousness will claim 'priority'. During day it will be ruled ( for maybe 70%) by sensoring systems. But we will notice that also deeper levels of memories (DNA, Genes memories) push 'essential' information. That's what I showed with the 3-Minutes analysis. Some information WANTS to be noticed. So we all have a type of personally programmed VALUE system that judges what information gets priority. Everybody has it's own value-system based on it's personal construction(s) which will rule his interpretation. So even concepts like Jung's 'Gestalt' and Archetypes, Freud's psychosexual stages, Maslow's peak experiences, etc. will play a role here.

We have to ask what is the most important if we want a general system (a Theory of Everything), namely: What is the most essential in that question? IMO it's interconnectivity. If we 'believe' that a Unification system is underlying everything that must be a non-breakable connection system. Now the only way you can formulate this in science is: GRAVITY. That binds us all, that inter-influences ALL. So that's prime.
So the question arises: How? That brings us to Prior-Geometry. That's in Buddhism the Tathagata Womb, in Cabbala AIN, in Taoism the Wall to hang the PA KUA, ... and to me a real concept: a non-breakable membrane that represent Space-time.

Now we come to a paradox in scientific thinking: Matter creates Gravity! But just look to it with clear eyes! No clothes on the emperor.
Gravity MUST be included in matter. Gravity is not something hanging around matter. ;-). It's a inherent property of matter.

Now we come to the final step: Matter IS Gravity.
I give a clear and simple engineering approach how a single non-breakable membrane can create holons (Quantum baskets), and those act like energy and matter. The more layers, the more DENSITY, and the more we will call these holons MATTER.
So the essence it that all matter and energy is just (locally) restructured spacetime. Matter is: very complex holons, Energy is: less complex holons with higher elasticity.
So spacetime is AND matter And energy, but always in a local combination.

The human holon is the totality of all his sub-holons, and each sub-holons is again based other holons. A type of hierarchy (a holoarchy). These holons interact however (so there is also a heterarchy). So the human holon contains a number of holon-networks (on different dimensions) which influence each other. (e.g. Genes-level, DNA-level, Liver-level, Ear-level, Brain-level, ... ). You can compare this with our human communication level.
Janus ... how many ways you have to communicate? Just some: you can speak, write a letter, phone via a fix line, phone wireless, write emails, ... an even a smile can be a message. So consciousness is the choice you make in using what system.
But the way you can send ... you also can receive messages. Thus at the SAME moment you can get a letter + an email + a smile + call on your mobile!
What will you open first? You will first open what is the most important to you ... your priority.
That choice system - based on embedded values - is called consciousness. That is what we observe as NOW. We can read only one message at the time. So we will loose information (which will be no part of our REALITY).

Why a membrane? Because there is conceptual no difference between a spherical membrane and a string. Both can be seen as the result of a point. The membrane as the boundary of such point, and the string as a point in movement.

I know this is high abstract stuff. I hope you can sleep. For me is now 2.50 AM. I am going to close my eyes for some hours.

Thanks for your reaction.

Dirk
pelastration
Shawn,

This thread was on consciousness. It describes a possible mechanism.
Till today nobody described that. This thread was not about metaphysics.

d
Shawn
QUOTE
This thread was on consciousness. It describes a possible mechanism.
Till today nobody described that. This thread was not about metaphysics.


my bad, pelastration. I was restructuring today, and was probably a bit too eager to add content to the new metaphysics board.


mu6
Hi Shawn and others,

I added some new designs on the MU6 website, now showing how - from a topological/geometric approach - the non-breakable membrane can explain the coupling of Mind and Body.

You can see on MU6 how the basic membrane sphere (like Tathagata Womb, Cosmic Egg) can self-fertilize itself and create basic holons which then can more complex holons.

On Mind and Brain you can see the coupling between spirit and the zygote. This is all perfect logic and causality if you accept only one postulate: There is a non-breakable, indestructible very dynamic and very elastic background.

Cheers,

Dirk (pelastration)
Unknown
QUOTE (mu6 @ Oct 26, 09:39 AM)
Hi Shawn and others,

I added some new designs on the MU6 website, now showing how - from a topological/geometric approach - the non-breakable membrane can explain the coupling of Mind and Body.

You can see on MU6 how the basic membrane sphere (like Tathagata Womb, Cosmic Egg) can self-fertilize itself and create basic holons which then can more complex holons.

On Mind and Brain you can see the coupling between spirit and the zygote. This is all perfect logic and causality if you accept only one postulate: There is a non-breakable, indestructible very dynamic and very elastic background.

Cheers,

Dirk (pelastration)

nice site. Have you devised a physics of holons? How do they interact? What predictions does your model make?
mu6
QUOTE (Unknown @ Oct 26, 10:09 AM)

nice site.  Have you devised a physics of holons?  How do they interact?  What predictions does your model make?


Thanks Unknown,

I am working on the basics of such "physics". The mathematical combinations are HUGE^9. But only a small part of such combinations are possible (due compression and hardness). In my model the more membrane layers a holon has, the more mass it has, and thus - by consquence - is tougher to penetrate.

I try to find out on what level electrons, photons, quarks, protons, gluons, etc. are.
But i.e. gluons would be just a binding effect of the membrane(s). Like quarks in the same membrane basket. If you see what Wilczek (Nobel prize) says about our concept of atoms, protons, gluons: It are a kind of clouds of vibration. And Quarks are slowed down when they go through a kind of vacuum-sea, and this slowlyness is called mass or weight.
That vision is completely different what "normal" people believe/understand about atoms and the nuclei. Most people believe atoms are like a planetary system.

The holons that I describe are a dimensional cluster of membrane layers, but in a causal (historic) way. Not just random, nothing to do with quantum mechanics. QM is about statistics but most physists have promoted it to a general view of how the universal system works. So ignorance (the lack of a real engineering concept) gave QM the possibility to become a hyped principle. Remember Einstein was sick of it, and said: God doesn't play dice.

Holons are the result of chaos, but once coupled they have structure. So they vibrate in a proper frequency.
In my approach the total membrane + it's sub-sets are a feedback system. What's happening in the sub-sets (holons) will influence the chaotic membrane and vise-a-versa. Like a multi-pendulum.

The topological holon approach confirms our "physics" (chemistry, biology, ...) but gives a logic energetic explaination of how that can happen. Instead on using words I prefer concepts.
In actual science terms the holon creations (of the matter type) would happen on the Planck scale.

Predictions? Yes, a fundamental one. The simplest form of the Hydrogen atom will show an anomaly. The only electron of the hydrogen will not make a full spheric travel around the proton because the proton has a membrane channel (or more) which connects it with the membrane.
You can see that on this (hidden) webpage: Prediction page

Dirk

Unknown
If I understand your website correctly, then I could say that I am being pelastrated by the IRS eveytime I pay taxes and the soreness left at the lower end of my GI track after the pelastration is a new holon? Maybe not. because the tissue up my crack is not infinitely elastic. What do I know! All joking aside, your website is well put together. And I am really trying hard to understand the concept. But, please, yield a little more about it! For instance, where did the idea come from? What authors, or books inspired you? Give me some bibliographical reference, please. And what about your background?
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