The quote from the Matrix has just become part of my thinking because i am listening to a Stone Temple Pilots song called "I got you" and it mentions the same thing "when the mind begins to wander to the spoon"

well i don't know what this spoon thing is about, can anyone help?

I've also heard a lot about the '70's psychic Uri Geller on the JREF site, who you may remember bent spoons with his mind (which was later found to be a trick). Matter of fact, I just posted about him in your Perceptions thread. I doubt he started all of that, but I'm sure it's some fanatic thing started by lovers of the supernatural. Not a big fan of the Matrix, but Soundgarden's song "Spoonman" jumps to mind.... maybe it's a cultural thing... musical spoon-players sound very tribal.

Or people on heroin.  ???

Ha ha ha

Thank you for a much-needed laugh, Agnostic4Now.

I am having a sad and dark day waiting for Silke to wake up from surgery.  I wrote about it in my sonnet #46.

I think you're right; it's either Uri Geller or smackers.

Peace and solidarity.

 Ahhh.... see? Skeptics are happy people, too....  ;D

Glad to hear I make someone laugh around here. I'm still waiting for Joe to argue with me more.... or at least for somebody to.

Yes, it's been a bit quiet around here of late!

If you really want an arguement we could start one?

too many people are sheep waiting for a shepard.  But I say, bring out the wolves!

But the wolves will just make the people act more like sheep! What you want to do is bring out the crooks and the sandals and let each sheep be a shepherd of his own!

no, no, no.   The sheep are open targets for wolves to prey on when they so desire it.   The wolves are not crooks, unless it's a crime to mock the weakness of the sheep, and even then, what does it matter whether some regard it as a crime or not?

And so I say, won't more wolves come out to play??
 

a shepherds crook!

[img]http://www.jacobsheep.freeserve.co.uk/home/images/Crook.JPG[/img]

d'oh!

Sorry, i'm being a wolf now!

back in the land of spoons, I have found some things out:

Firstly the spoon quote seems to be to a reference to Jean Baudrillard's Simulcra and Simulation book, I read a critique of it and it lost me completely.

Secondly if you want to practice your spoon technique try: www.there-is-no-spoon.net

 Popular spoon-based references:

Spooning (my favorite), Spoon-playing, Bending spoons, Heroin spoons, "Silver Spoon" expressions, "Matrix" spoon, songs w/ spoons (i.e. the ones we mentioned already), and of course the best catchphrase ever used by a cartoon character (The Tick):

"Spoooon!"

You  say spoon enough and it starts to sound funny... spoon, spoon.....

Looney

oh, you guyz are missing it:

"There is a Zen parable about three monks observing a flag waving in the wind. One monk points out how the flag moves. The second responds that it is not really the flag, but the wind that moves. The third monk rebukes both and claims that neither the flag nor the wind moves. "It is your mind that moves." The message is clear. The spoon does not bend because there is no spoon. There is only mind."

but i just heard another great version of this story:

the youngest monk says "flag flapping."
the older monk says "wind flapping."
the older monk that has been there longer than the other two says "mind flapping."

then the oldest monk says in his irritated growl: "mouths flapping!"
hee-hee-hee! ;D

 The thread's a joke anyway.

Zen monks always have something dumb to say, and no matter how cool it might sound to some, it's just another way to dance around questions. Anyone see that episode of "King of the Hill"?  ;D

QUOTE

The message is clear.

Yeah right, the answer is only easy when you know what it is!

QUOTE

The spoon does not bend because there is no spoon. There is only mind.

All you've done here is print in full the idea that started this thread. What does it mean? Is the spoon ego? is it a simulcra?

"All you've done here is print in full the idea that started this thread. What does it mean? Is the spoon ego? is it a simulcra?"

yeaaah ok you got me
in the movie there was no spoon becuz it was all just  computer generated simulacra

so what if we're in a kind of matrix right now?
how we gonna kno if we are or arent?
if we are, then there arent any spoons

that uri geller, oh man i saw him on tv a while ago telling people to hold their broken watches up to the tv screen! OMG can you imagine people actually doin it expecting their watch to start working? too funny

 When he was interested in British football (as in managing franchises), he told people to make a dot on the scrren and focus their energy torawrd his team winning.

Every time he said for his fans to do this, his team lost. ;D

Richard Dawkins talks about the wristwatch thing in Unweaving the Rainbow.  He examines the probabilities of an event like that happening within a sample the size of a television audience and shows that even without falsification of evidence, pure chance alone dictates that some of those watches will start working again and that of those that do, some will call in and talk about it.  People are dupes for anything uncanny and easily exploited by those who are able to play the game of statistics.

That's wierd, why is wristwatch filtered out?  Is that some newfangled urban obscenity?

Joe is a wristwatch!!   LOL

Does that mean he is broken, and no longer able to function?

WRISTWATCH!!

Oh i figured it out:  W R I S [T W * T] CH.  That's silly.  And no, I wasn't implying anything about Joe.  Just my usual unfounded provocation.

Chill Tim, try wrist watch!

Don't tell me to chill you wristwatch!

As you're on the nightwatch you should shit down and have a drink of faucetwater!

How else would I sh*t?  Up?

Did this thread ever have a real point?  ;D