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Dan
so all you are really admitting is that, when piezoelectric crystals are destroyed in particular ways, brief flashes of luminosity are generated. How is this supposed to explain what Red Dragon is describing? As far as I can tell, he is claiming that a continuous glow is generated by such crystals (not bried flashes) AND this glow is, unlike ordinary light, transmitted through the human head well enough to light a room (presumably without lighting the head up like a light bulb).

Also, I am not sure what 'omega' stations are. Can you refer me to any credible website or online journal that explains them? I'm not yet a 'believer' in the so-called 'earth grid', although the notion sounds magically delicious. I have never seen a credible scientific observation of such grids, mostly just speculative nonsense based on otherwise untestable subjective reports. I would love to see credible evidence of such a grid. And I really don't believe much of the myth surrounding Nikola Tesla, I just believe that he had a strong intuitive grasp of electromagnetics and thus was able to devise machines to harness it in various ways (ways which are not mysterious or hidden by secret governments).

Finally, I have no idea who this Tiller guy is or whether or not he has made the claims advertised. I do know, however, know that if he had actually presented testable methods of converting intent into any action other than his own neurological action, he would have taken the world by storm. More likely, he invented some kind of theory that makes claims that are either not true or not testable.


So, basically, I'm back to the same question which, as of yet, remains unanswered: Can you explain how a continuous green glow capable of lighting a house room can be a result of the (presumably) piezolelectric crystals that are imbedded in the pineal gland? So far, it just looks as if you offering cryptic pieces of information that might lead the less informed to believe that this notion is somehow scientifically explained.
Z
QUOTE (Red Dragon @ Jun 14, 12:58 PM)
F**K off and die, you piece of sh*t, you're a waste of space and oxygen! mad.gif

you got me shak'n in me boots!

I'd love to know what you do for a living, Red Dragon. wink.gif
Red Dragon
QUOTE (Dan @ Jun 14, 10:35 AM)
can any of you nutters actually offer proof of this supposed 'glowing green crystal in the brain' other than just claiming that it is real? Scientific proof would be nice (as RTB claims to have), and if no such proof exists (as Red Dragon seems to imply) then what kind of proof does exist? And if no reliable proof other than your own personal 'experience' exists, how can you be sure that your interpretatin of the experience is not a misguided delusion?

Yes, I agree with you, you're quite right that we are nutters. We have to be in order to try to attempt to explain this stuff to a bunch of unreasoning, formulary, ignorant scientific mythologist monkeys. We're nothing compared to the nutter in say, The White House who doesn't care how history will judge him because we'll all be dead due to the impending rapture and armageddon. Save your observations for those more worthy of that particular accolade. Sanity is a gauge of acceptable, observable social behaviour within a normal distribution curve construct where there is still argument over which 2% of the exception portions of the curve is which. If you think you're anywhere near the top 2% of the curve, I'd advise you to reconsider your opinion.

You have two "un-sane" people on this board, take advantage of it you twit. The scientific method starts with observation, or have you forgotten that or never even bothered to learn it. I'll gladly compare Mensa, GRE, GMAT, Military Intelligence scores with you. I'm easily in the top decile in each measurement, and my MI score was unbelievable to the Canadian Forces, a singularity at the time – I had a good day. I went to a school where countries open up intelligence files on you just because you went there. I'm on the Advisory Board of a managed futures fund in California, where I was casually informed that the USA's security file on me was 3 feet thick. The guy's who recommended me, was 6 feet thick. He's from Kansas, some things are serendipitously poetic. Another member of the board is a guy who's etched his name in titanium on a couple of hundred birds floating around this planet and, he's an Ops Dir of the system. We're also seriously into this.

Take my QED self test. Or are you a "crystalline challenged" monkey? I've observed these crystals in action during "special effects" and told you where they are. You go find the green or green lit ones or green refracted effect, I've played with prisms too. I just use them. I wouldn't go near any one of your labs, its like throwing pearls to swine, besides monkeys not having the ability to perceive human beings. There are better things to do.

Of the three colours of the Norse "Bifrost Rainbow Bridge", casually take a guess as to what one of the other ones was, besides the yellow indicated in a previous post which I'm sure a weasel like you has saved to disk. Did you parse the behavioural clues in the children's story as to the difference in the two approaches? Or were you too unobservant even for that? I know "gems" when I see them. Did you bother to look up the whole story and go ?! or were you even too clueless with such a gift? How about the rest of the book?

Call me a nutter to my face and I'll have you eating cement and spitting out teeth and looking for your nose in about 3 seconds. I've done volunteer work with the institutionalized insane during my life, have you? I not only was a) a street gang punk as a kid I cool.gif used to be a pretty good jock; c) I still know how to do this and d) have done it to men half my age much to their surprise. You're simply a very, very stupid piece of crap Dan, get over it and accept it, you then might make some progress. The null hypothesis has been disproven, and you're simply a barbarian with no abilities in this area. The mechanics are unknown and I've shown you where they are. Its like the village butcher wanting to be the village doctor.

Man, I'm so far past telepathy it would make your head spin. I've actually put other people "through" walls and ceilings... they even came out fine on the other side! laugh.gif Not much of a delusion there. I might just be, at a not too distant future, be willing personally demonstrate the laser capabilities I'm trying to further develop, if I could do it to the likes of you.

I just think, redevelop and do it, you figure the mechanics out, I'm not that interested.

Now that Robert's shown me his vibes, I have a better idea of the specific dematerialization effect he referred to and can add it to my repertoire. Its two abilities I didn't know one could al-chemically mix together, so to speak. He now has an idea of how to develop the abilities I've referred to, he sensed my vibes. Its osmosis. We just do it. Our crystals are active. I was ready to "allegorically" rip his throat out if he turned out to be a black-eyed F**K. Have you heard about that specific brand of nutters, who make the whole eye, even the whites, go black? They've started psychic skirmishes around here already.

I'm moving to environments where friendly, peaceful people actually do this stuff and take in the occasional piece of white trash that comes their way. Take a guess as to how I found out? You can take this piece of sh*t for a country and shove it up your a*s. I wasn't born here and I'll be damned if I die here, I've seen and am from better, I'm tired of slumming. Its fairly obvious that the bottom of the British/Euro trash heap settled this country and simply spawned more goofs. Ask the natives, they've got lots of stories.

If you open up the pineal correctly, and so far there appear to be "spiritual" aspects or constraints, you can access a "Tesla's double silvered mirror" structure that's built into the brain's anatomy. I've said this before, now go ask the engineering types what this is and can do and then drop in to the Fine Arts and Music Faculties and observe what most people with psychic abilities are actually doing. This stuff was in the realm of religious mysticism and the theosophic cultured upper classes, it would be nice if science took a look. If you believe you can develop these abilities, you will. If you don't, you won't and might go insane. Its that simple, so please don't believe me. Did you never wonder about such things as the admonition of the, ahem, angels:

"Why would you want to be like us, when you could be so much more?"

I didn't ever need to become spiritual to "merge with my higher self". All it ever took was a fun woman, a pizza, six pack and some righteous smoke. If I was gonna' do the one on One shamanic rapture I also was going to keep my eyes open to see what else came along with this. Lots, it seems if one has awareness, integrates the spiritual effect, but does not submit to the spiritual mind traps.

This Tesla device allows for the transmission of energy through time and space without a conductor, and even possibly from another dimension. I was always curious as to why "space brothers" from "star nations" would occasionally recruit "star warriors" from amongst NA native tribes. That's why, amongst other things. They also chose individuals with a high degree of kinesthetic intelligence, implying these other "mind "abilities could be easily acquired if one had the body for it. I'm still looking for this inferred, easy method. No luck so far.

An individual, a potential human being, that might have developed these abilities was shot to death by the neanderthal law enforcement around here yesterday. Bad, bad, bad monkeys. You have no idea how bad.

Have fun!

aka petitioning Saint (Righteous) Anger at times.

Red Dragon,
Raven shaman mad.gif
Robert the Bruce
Tiller (as I noted) was the Chair of Stanford's Material Sciences Department. Like Dr. Don RObins who was with the Getty Institute after writing his book - he does the work that men like Tesla did - not the work of sucking-up to 'know-nothing science' (KAKU). You really have not studied and know so little - I am not moved to continue this useless experiment.
Dan
RTB

in my defense, I did locate Tiller's website, www.tiller.org and will be investigating his work simply because he is rather unorthodox and (possibly) confused. As for your completely baseless accusation that I 'know nothing', all I can say to that is you are plain wrong. I would say that it is you who does not understand how your emotional investment in your system of thought has clouded your ability to think properly and thus properly understand the meaning of scientifically derived facts. You seem, instead, to mostly rely on some kind of historical matrix in conjunction with select authoritative figures in order to spin what I can only describe as pseudoscientific myths (maybe they are more than that, this is why I am questioning them). I will continue to critique any scientific claims that you or those like you put forward here, if only for my own edification. You can refuse to recognize what I say at your own peril
Dan
I can see you are showing your true colors, Red Dragon. Not only do you not impress or scare me, you make me laugh. I'm glad I'm not a nutter like you
Robert the Bruce
Dear Dan

'At my own peril'.

Sounds like a God complex as well.

Whatever!
Robert the Bruce
Dear Red Dragon

I am often amazed at how few scientists and academics actually employ the scientific method (of alchemy - Bacon was not the first but he was an alchemist). OBSERVE?!

But how can one observe when the mind has so many areas that are atrophied or worse?

How can people learn when they are told what to think?

When does one stop thinking there are definite answers and start to see the awesome potential of the UNIverse or Creation and its design?

Here is some advice I gave to someone on another site who is only now (after over a year of exposure to me) starting to notice how little she knows.

"You have been looking and yet have not found - why is that?

Most people seek affirmation and not confrontation of their ego needs (I call it mental masturbation.). Start anew and let go - in the instant of knowing then look again."

But starting over requires a lot of work and there are many ways to do that work (Path=Tao).
Dan
yeah, Red Dragon, listen to RTB. I'm just a dum monkey who rattles his little saberettes thinking he knows something when all he really knows is how to grab rok and throw rok at stuff. You guys obviously have knowledge far superior to me; so superior, in fact, that you can't even demonstrate or prove it to credible scientific witnesses.

One proof that I would believe is seeing with mine own eyes just one of these wonderous things you can do. I would be willing to accept the punishment due me if you can convince me of your powers. For starters, why don't you use that psychic power of yours and try to do something to me from a distance like disintegrate my soul? That would be really cool
Z
QUOTE (Red Dragon @ Jun 14, 05:00 PM)
Call me a nutter to my face and I'll have you eating cement and spitting out teeth and looking for your nose in about 3 seconds.

Oh Goodness Gracious! I'm sooo scared, Nutter!


QUOTE (Red Dragon AKA Nutter)

The null hypothesis has been disproven, and you're simply a barbarian with no abilities in this area.


That's funny. I was thinking this of you days ago.

QUOTE (Red Dragon AKA Nutter)

Man, I'm so far past telepathy it would make your head spin. I've actually put other people "through" walls and ceilings... they even came out fine on the other side! laugh.gif Not much of a delusion there.


This doesn't even merit comment. It's only good for laughs.

QUOTE (Red Dragon AKA Nutter)

I didn't ever need to become spiritual to "merge with my higher self". All it ever took was a fun woman, a pizza, six pack and some righteous smoke.


Evidently you've smoked too much of something that you shouldn't have. My impression is that you are too filthy in mind, body, and deed to be anything close to spiritual. There is little that is Godly, much less respectable, in that. Do not expect people to believe you've merged with your higher self though you may like them to believe otherwise. Sorry but a brahman or otherwise enlightened individual is not a filthy monster. You may think that you talk the talk, but others know better and can discern empty ravings from truth.


QUOTE (Red Dragon AKA Nutter)

are you a "crystalline challenged" monkey? I've observed these crystals in action during "special effects" and told you where they are. You go find the green or green lit ones or green refracted effect, I've played with prisms too. I just use them. I wouldn't go near any one of your labs, its like throwing pearls to swine, besides monkeys not having the ability to perceive human beings. There are better things to do. 


*yawns*

It's like talking with a child. You go play with your prisms, Red Dragon. You are right about one thing, about there being better things to do (than playing with prisms, I might add).

You who are so eager to call others monkeys and to make your empty threats and who spew forth endless torrents of bombastic nonsense and utter stupidity, I can only laugh at such foolishness. Do yourself a favor and wake up already. You can push your fantasy world and your delusions only so far, and by now I would have hoped that you would have seen how limited your fantasy world and delusions are. The supreme irony here is that the one who is ever so eager to call others monkeys is simply projecting his own self-image. So let me tell you something, monkey; Stop monkeying around.



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muzart
Well laz,
sorry for the delay in telling u abt it.............
haha, it is private of course, but since i am always keen on educating people, or making them aware, and clearing away their doubts......here goes.........
it is quite difficult..........and easy at the same time.

my other half hears me all the time, i hear him sometimes, i feel him whenever he 'does it' and he does it when i ask him to.........there's no speech, not much physical change....just the intense sensation which is felt somewhere in the brain.........

i am sure there are others, sensitive and honest and ofcourse blessed people on this site who experience similar things ....

keep inquiring, keep believing in God( Sri Krsna) and you will know that everything is a miracle...a permanently changing one........

muzart
Red Dragon
Dear Dumb Dan:

Interesting that the "primal" challenge is the one that you responded to. Why wouldn't you have taken me up on my offer to compare Mensa, GRE, GMAT, Military Intelligence scores with you? I'm easily in the top decile in each measurement.

I've gone to a brainiac school where just enrolling causes security agencies of various countries to open a file on you. I’m on the Advisory Board of a managed futures fund in California, where I was casually informed that my US security file was 3 feet thick. The fellow who recommened me had a 6 foot thick file. One of the other board members is a guy who's etched his name in titanium on over 200 birds in orbit he programmed and is an Operations director for the US satellite system. We're all seriously into exploring this "psychic" phenomena.

Perhaps you missed the point where I mentioned that it was another person going through a solid object? That's as independent an observation as you can get. And yeah, when I set up an environment for further testing and developing these abilities, I might welcome you to observe for yourself. And no, I don't do soul destroying work and wouldn't even have a clue of where to begin, its not my thing, quite the opposite.

You see Dan, I've already acknowledged my own shortcomings, a step your neurotic compunctions won't let you take, so now you yourself revert to meaningless psychobabble, limiting the concept of the Universe and holiness to your own limited dogmatic subjective perceptions. There are broader philosophical constructs; I've never aspired to "sainthood" or being a "brahmin", only awareness.

With the Yahweh archetype as a metaphor for God:

QUOTE
Yahweh is not a human being: he is both a persecutor and a helper in one and the one aspect is as real as the other. Yahweh is not split, but is an antimony -- a totality of inner opposites and this is the indispensable condition for his tremendous dynamism."(C. G. Jung, Answer to Job, par. 567)


QUOTE (Donmeh West)
Like you, I'm just a damn-fool ignoramus; the difference between us, however, if any, is that I know I am and you still think you're not."
-- Reb Yakov Leib HaKohain


QUOTE (Dan)
The supreme irony here is that the one who is ever so eager to call others monkeys is simply projecting his own self-image


Perhaps you missed my post where I indicated I wouldn't use any ad hominem that I wouldn't use on myself, recognizing the reflection of my neuroses in observing other behaviour, thus I see monkeys as a reflection of each other. Let's examine your neuroses:

QUOTE (Dan)
Evidently you’ve smoked too much of something that you shouldn’t have. My impression is that you are too filthy in mind, body, and deed to be anything close to spiritual. There is little that is Godly, much less respectable, in that. Do not expect people to believe you’ve merged with your higher self though you may like them to believe otherwise. Sorry but a brahman or  otherwise enlightened individual is not a filthy  monster. You may think that you talk the talk,  but others know better and can discern empty  ravings from truth..


Others more glib than I am, are not constrained by such a subjective limiting mental construct as yours:

QUOTE (Donmeh West)
But the Holy Sinner is not a criminal: "corrupt," yes; "degenerate," perhaps, but a "criminal," no. His actions may offend us, even repel us, but they do not damage us --except insofar as we find them socially and morally unacceptable.

Thus, the Holy Sinner (such as Sabbatai Zevi, Jacob Frank and, God help us, even you and I) complements the Righteous Saint (such as Rebbe Nachman of Breslov) and is, therefore, an "indispensable condition" for completing and actualizing the inner "dynamism" of God.

"We can, of course, hope for the undeserved grace of God who hears our prayers. But God, who also does not hear our prayers, wants to become man, and for that purpose he has chosen, through the Holy Ghost [i.e., Ruach HaKodesh], the creaturely man filled with darkness -- the natural man who is tainted with original sin and who learnt the divine arts and sciences from the fallen angels. The guilty man is eminently suitable and is therefore chosen to become the vessel for the continuing incarnation, not the guiltless one who holds himself aloof from the world and refuses to pay his tribute to life, for in him the dark God would find no room."(C.J. Jung, Answer to Job, par. 746)

In other words, it's not the saints, the pious and the righteous whom God chooses as the vessels for His continuing incarnation in this trashy world, but the ordinary ones, the common ones, who, like the world itself, themselves are trash. It is the Holy Sinners whom He chooses, we who have been bruised and soiled by life -- who have dirtied ourselves in the dust to which the Holy Bride has fallen, and from where she must be lifted up -- we who have sinned and will probably sin again because it is in the nature of the scorpion to sting -- we who belch and fart and scratch our asses…

….we prove ourselves to Him to be strong enough to contain the wine of His Holy Spirit without bursting or becoming, like those for whom we pour it out, drunk.


You simply don't appear to have sufficient understanding of logical constructs Dan, or perhaps you're "reading challenged", since your rants also demonstrate:

ad hominems
argumentum ad ignorantiam
converse accident / hasty generalization
sweeping generalization / dicto simpliciter
non causa pro causa / post hoc ergo propter hoc
petitio principii / begging the question
circulus in demonstrando
complex question / fallacy of interrogation / fallacy of presupposition
ignoratio elenchi
fallacies of composition and division
argumentum ad nauseam
non sequitur
red herring
shifting the burden of proof
straw man
the extended analogy
tu quoque

One of the steps in self realization is recognizing one's own inadequacies. I had a big list.

Have fun! laugh.gif

Red Dragon
Raven shaman cool.gif
Unknown
QUOTE (Guest @ Jun 10, 08:53 PM)
Pale to medium green coloured light is the background colour for visual clamidium from pre pubescent children, or else the "vision" will have a lot of green in it. I call this the "green zone" or dimension if you like, in The Void.. The crystal resonance from the attempt to "silently communicate" may very well last a long time after death.

When Steven Hawkings (A Brief History of Time) drools off as he is wont too, he's in this zone playing with the kiddies. They're all over him like morphing paisley shapes, I guess its an English thing. I've seen him there a couple of times.

As the brain shuts down during death, the pineal finally gets activated and causes these deathbed visions. It's either the piezolectric effect from the brain contracting a bit or a direct jolt of electricity from the synapses(?) if that's the correct term.

A lot of folks were dug up in the old days to make sure they were dead, because they didn't stop "broadcasting" - lights, voices, apparitions. There's a story of one dead Jewish rabbi who they kept in the attic and he continued to broadcast for about ten years and neither did his flesh rot. So, once you've "tuned" your crystals correctly, the vibration can last a long time.

There are two things that may be happening here, both related to the pineal crystalline's structure's "last gasps". It may be an actual visitation from the other side, is one. The other is the pineal's projection being askew because of the dying experience. When it acts like a movie projector, it can project onto a certain group of crystals in the pituitary, generating a "movie screen" type visual projection. Akashic memory retreival works like this as well.
The sensations are all replicable using subsonics or going for a ride in a G-force testing machine used for atronaut training.


this is a lot of bs! Get off the crack!
Unknown
QUOTE (Red Dragon @ Jun 20, 05:22 AM)
Why wouldn't you have taken me up on my offer to compare Mensa, GRE, GMAT, Military Intelligence scores with you? I'm easily in the top decile in each measurement.


why would you take GRE or GMAT when you've evidently never received any higher education? Why don't do deal with specifics instead of throwing out vague wishy-washy statements about being in the top decile? And what's a Mensa score? Mensa is an organization that accepts you based on IQ. They don't have scores. The fact that you brag about it speaks volumes, Mr. low self-esteem.
Red Dragon
QUOTE

why would you take GRE or GMAT when you've evidently never received any higher education?


M.Sc., Faculty of Economics, London School of Economics (UK). Only about 125 students of about 2,500 post grads graduate from this faculty.

QUOTE
Why don't do deal with specifics instead of throwing out vague wishy-washy statements about being in the top decile?


Top 10% (decile) isn't specific enough for you? What are your scores?

QUOTE
And what's a Mensa score?   Mensa is an organization that accepts you based on IQ.   They don't have scores.


Yes, one can find out their score if accepted. What's yours?

QUOTE
The fact that you brag about it speaks volumes,  Mr. low self-esteem.


Not always. I started teaching at the University level 4 years after high school. How about you? If its a fact it not bragging. That's your neurosis.

Have fun laugh.gif

Red Dragon, M.Sc.
Raven shaman cool.gif
Unknown
QUOTE (Red Dragon @ Jun 20, 08:00 AM)
What are your scores?


I would like to tell you, but I'm not that arrogant.

If nothing else, they can sometimes be reflective of personal potential, but it's the realization of this potential that really matters. If I told you I had genius-level IQ, would that knowledge alone indicate I'd realized some genius-potential that was evident in my works and actions? No, and so I choose to let my works and actions speak for themselves. Instead of bragging about my top decile scores, I choose to let people decide for themselves the merit of my words. I do not need to try to impose authority on my words from external (and occasionally falsified) sources when the words themselves possess authority which will be evident to those who can see and to those who matter. You would have us compromise our rationality and judgement because you would have us believe that you're in the top decile of some tests? Irrespective of the validity of your claim, the fact that you should make such a claim at all is simply offensive (and not very flattering to you) because the need to justify your words based on external authority alone (in this case, the supposed "authority" of top decile scores and the fact that this claim is used in a failed attempt to prop your other foolish claims) is weakness.

Dan
Red Dragon

Just so you know, I'm not the only one interacting with you on this thread. You can be sure that I only post under the name "Dan".

Anyway, my impression of your intelligence is that you evidently do have a quick mind with good memory but, based on many statements that you have made, you really do leave much to be desired. You may have just jumped onto the motorcycle of life and zoomed off, not ever paying much attention to paths you were taking. While such an approach to life may get you far, fast, it also apparently left you stranded far from the ability to understand where you ended up and what to make of it. So, instead of deriving wisdom from your experience, you have derived much nonsense that you take for wisdom. While that is unfortunate, what is most unfortunate is that you are fundamentally dishonest to yourself and thus continue on this journey of folly without ever a thought that maybe, just maybe, you are driving yourself into oblivion.
Unknown
An Interesting page.

http://www.near-death.com/jung.html

http://www.soultravel.nu/index-ENG.asp <--For what its worth.
Unknown
very interesting. I'll have to say more later.
The Stupid One
Red Dragon
I just want you to know that I think you are a very intelligent guy. I'm sure these words make you feel great, because you have no respect for yourself saying that the proof for every stupid thing you've said is that you are wonderful. Being wonderful is NOT a proof for anything. Quoting someone 'great' is also no proof for any statement. A truth can only live supported by it's own logical structure.
Please, the next time you want to post something THINK ABOUT IT. Don't be such a monkey.
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