hey...this guy that i really liked that i said had a girlfriend...well he knows i just wanna be friends and all and he knew a really long time ago that i liked him..well him and his girlfriend had some problems the other day and now he won't even talk to me...I wasn't even involved or around when they were having problems...i'm confused..he's being such a jerk. can anybody help me out?

Ann

there's no such thing as 'just friends' in my universe

If you want something that can't be shared then you either take it or somebody else probably will

sorry

Why do you need to take his stress so personally. Give the guy some room. Most people when feeling sorry for themselves don't have any awareness of anyone else, just themselves.
If the guy is under 40 he hasn't matured enough to be aware of anything but his own personal desires.
Take the last post as an example.
 

ann.. dont worry about it he ahasnt talked to me either and he ussaylly tells me everything. ..really.. dont worry about him.. thas wat you tell meabout Jason right? lol take ur OWN advice babe.. k? and il still lveo you.. but bonehead ( i tihnk did i spell you right?) is right,give him space.. ROze

Sadly most guys are jerks and it seems unfair that they feel the need to act so immature! sadly  some "boys" or guys never develop into "real men" they remain in the training to be a man stage for what seems like forever! :-/ :-[


You may have yet to meet a "real man" and when you do I assure you your expierence will be much better!!! I am sorry this has happened to you!!! :-[ :'(


Give him space does not mean taking his hurtful behavior and putting up with it! If he can't get over himself to be decent to a friend then it is sadly his loss!!


Love yas,
Chrissy

no no no no i didnt mean you have t put up wit it i really didnt

I know what you meant Rooze I ddin't mean to come off rude Rooze sorry if it sounded that way!!!


Love yas,
Chrissy

oh no! i know wta you meant i was just explaing to ann wat I meant so taht she didnt get mad at me lol but ya.. doesnt TE AMO means i lvoe you in spanish?? ROZE

Yes, 'Te Amo' does mean I love you in Spanish.

haha that is sOO kewl!! lol i love that syaing.. i used to sya it to everyone and then. i stoped.. lol oh well ROze

I say that to Chrissy everyday.

I do give him space..i mean...i don't talk to him at school but i talk to him on the internet once in a while...but he's always really rude.

RUDE AND MEAN PEOPLE SUCK!!!!!!!!

Hey he is rude to me too spoits not just you..its like  a thing wit him.. i dotn ko

I don't care WHO he's rude to I care WHY he's rude to ME. (not saying he should be rude to you roe). lately I hate him...he is such a jerk i can't stand him...but at school when he takes my food or somethin its like we're best friends and nothing is different as long as I'll give him food...why is he being such a jerk?!

oh i know you care ann.. but ya know.. i dont know.. maybe its like he tihnks he hasto be bcuz he dont want serena to knmwo he sitl lieks you, ormaybe he is uncoforable, or.. i dotn know.. i don know thi kind of siution bcuz i have neve rhad a guy taht liked meandthen was a total asshole..  all i can sy is talk to m

well i don't think he does, did, ever has, or ever will like me.

he did. he told me and he dont lie to me. and he ould righ now cet he is hung up on serena (who sacres the living shit outa me) and he wIll bcuz dont she gradtuate this year?

they're in the same grade..they graduate next year...and he is probably scared of her too...but ne ways i don't even know why i care if he likes me...he is being such a jerk ti shouldn't matter.  but for some reason it does and i don't know why. I still like him so much but he's being such a prick...grrr...I don't know what to do..should i just stop talking to him? or what? not that i really talk to him any more any ways.

oh i never kewn that.. but yea i bet he is acsared of her too.. lol i wouldbe! lol she scaRES ME!! lol but yea.. i tihnk you should try to tsop talking to him for awhileand see if he notices.. and like they said.. give him space.. but dont put up wit himbeing an asshole. fuck him if you dont like it.

i AM giving him space...I don't eat w/ you all ne more so I don't see him at lunch for more than like 2 seconds and we never talk and I rarely ever talk to him on the internet any more cuz he was all oh i'm writting serena i'm not gonna talk to you and then he wouldn't talk to me any more...and i was like well i know she's his gf and all but does he have to blow me off when he's writtin to her? cuz i mean whenever he writes to ne body else he doesn't...it doesn't take that much more concentration to write to her does it? ???

i dfont know.. but i have had a lot of people say that to me hole on im witing an e-mail brb and then they bnever come back.. i alwasy take it peronsal until i find out aht they do it to other people too.. that could be i. and yes i know ur giving his space.. tahs good. thas wat he needs. he dont know wat he wants

i hate him....

i know..i know.. thas wta you say and thats pry weta you feel right baoutnow.. but.. im soryr

roze its not your fault you shouldn't be sorry...i'm the one that fell for him in the first place so you shouldn't be sorry.If anybody is sorry its me and I swear I'm never gonna like a guy like him again...and I mean I don't know that I really LIKE him any more but he's being such a jerk and I can't figure out why! Is he PMSing or something? jeez..>I'm gonna go nuts I hate it when people are mad at me and I didn't do anything...I'm enough of a jerk for them to be mad at me 90% of the time any way but i DIDN'T do anything!

your not a jerk ann! wat was it you said to me?! its no use telling you sometihng taht i know your goin to argue anyhow! and im sorry bcuz i knwo how youf eel, and i know that it sux.. you wil like again trust meyou will.. lol i thought i NEVER would but you will... Alex is being a jerk. its not YOUR fault.. ROze

Thanks Roe It just makes me mad that he's being so dumb....I just wanna know why :'(

ask him.. or ill ask him.. he would only get mad at me i could even say why are you being a jerk to ME and eveyrone else.. want me to? ill be ok ifhe hates ME

No I don't want you to ask him...I'll ask him if he ever lets me talk to him...because like I said he never talks to me at school any more he just takes stuff from me and he is never online...I'll figure something out..Maybe I should just forget about him?

You could try but you probably wont... just go up to hyim and be all damnit alex. fuckin let me tell you soemthing iight!? and he will listen.. i would.. lol you pry cant forget him.. its h ard

yeah roze..I'm gonna walk up to him and say that...right..uh huh...he makes me so mad i don't even wanna see him

wel i would walk up to him and say that.. i know he maes you mad and im sorry i dont know wat to say cetim sorry

Its not your fault...and why are we having this convo on a message board when we could just im or something? lol...its weird...every time I post on here your the only person that really says anything to me.

lol no

yeah what is up with guys wanting so much from us and when we actually offer to do something nice for threm they point blank refuse! >:( Maybe this isn't whjat you have been expereincing from this "dude" (he is not a real man as of yet) but I am expereincing this with someone close to me! ??? ???

Chrissy,
I'm so sorry to hear that you're experiencing that. Its crazy huh? They expect us to do everything for them and be there when they need us or just want us to be there but if we need them or want them to do something we have to fend for ourselves. I know all guys aren't like this but it seems like all the ones I know are. I hope things turn out better for you. Just remember if you need to talk I am here and so is everyone else.

Love Always and Forever
Ann

You have a real strong anger thing against guys, don't you Chrissy. Please remember that girls are incomprehensible to most of us as well.

Sean I don't know you and you don't know me so therefore why judge me for saying i have a strong anger towards guys! Well maybe i do for good reason of course if you really knew me you would know I don't have anger towards anyone (guys included) for no reason....I had many many bad experiences by so called men in my life I don't have anger please don't be so shallow I was just pointed out an opinion as I am sure you were as well!  :P

love yas all,
Chrissy

thanks Anne for being so open on this board and for being so nice and offereing your support it is appreciated and please know I am here for you as well!

Sorry Chrissy. It was a knee-jerk reaction to what I saw as an attack on my gender. You're right that I shouldn't judge you (I try to avoid judging people but sometimes I'm not very good at it). Please forgive me.

It's ok Sean I am sorry to I come off as judging all makes sometimes without meaning too! :-[


Love yas,
Chrissy

I don't think I'm a jerk, but may be a 'push-over'!

Not all guys are jerks.  I am only 15, but take me for example.  I am the kindest guy around, and I've never once dated someone.  All the girls I know are into guys are "bad" and such.  I know there are some girls out there who are looking for nice guys.  Just like there are guys who are looking for nice girls.  Don't group the "spoiled" fruits with the "ripe" fruits.

GuyinDefense - If I didn't know better, I'd think you were me under a pseudonym - 15, never had a girlfriend, don't consider myself a jerk . Are you shy? Because that can be a big factor, as girls aren't likely to go for a nice guy if they don't know him well enough to know he's nice.

"nice guys" get nowhere with women.  At the very least, you have to be confident, outgoing, and funny with women.  Depending on the woman, it can also help to be somewhat cocky.  Women need to feel comfortable around you, otherwise you're not going to get anywhere with them.   And if you're shy, then forget it cause it's unlikely any woman is going to pay attention to you, much less feel comfortable around you.  Just my 2 cents.

hey i love nice guys, i would do aything for aNICE guy.. anything.. but assholes? fuck em who cares shy guys rock too

Seanf - Yep.  I am shy, one of the reasons I haven't had  a girlfiend.

Freddy sorry but do you need to be so stereotypical! :-[? :-/

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Women need to feel comfortable around you, otherwise you're not going to get anywhere with them.Â

Absolutely, Freddy.  Being confident and funny does not necessarily make you any less of a "nice guy" (we will just agree to disagree on that point), but you are spot on regarding shy guys.  I have dated shy guys and it is just painful at times trying to get to know them.  After a couple dates you think "why bother" or he gets relegated to the friend zone.

I would not call Shawn outgoing but he is defintely confident and that is one of the main reasons I fell for him so quickly.  So guys (AND girls), don't be afraid to be proud of yourself and toot your own horn once in a while.  :-)

 well, you have to understand that all guys are a little wierd at times. and yes, most guyz are jerks. but thats what sperates them from girls. the boy that you like might have a girlfriend, and he probaly liked her alot, and i guess he thought since you liked him, then you might have tried breaking them apart. you have to sit him down and tell him that you arent trying to ruin anything, so he will understand. tell him how you feel .

seriously pretty much all the guys in this world are jerks.
they all need to go die somewhere.
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