Hey. I'm just curious, if you guys could decide what the future would be like (the world, people, cars, animals, etc.) what would it be like? I think it would be cool to see other people views on this. Also, aside from what you would LIKE it to be like how do you THINK it will be?
Ann
Full Version: If you could decide....
I want reality to be heaven, but I don't think it will be  :'(
In the meantime (which looks like forever), I think We will be busy chasing shadows and dreams, feeling good and feeling bad Â
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In the meantime (which looks like forever), I think We will be busy chasing shadows and dreams, feeling good and feeling bad Â
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First of all, people should behave in a way that everyone feels fine.
Next, there should be only little work for each of us, and that work should be fun. The rest has to be done by robots.
After that, we don't need money anymore. Everyone gets what we need, and enough is produced. (And none of us wants more than is necessary.)
Then there's also much healthiness. So, no diseases and we get quite old, but feel young all the time.
And certainly a proper mind. So you know a lot and are quite spiritual and so.
(All the other things, like beautiful earth with nice cities, many plants, no ecological problems, etc., follow by themselves.)
I both LIKE to be it like that and THINK it will be like that. The only question is how long it will take. But that's also decided by the effort we put in it.
Next, there should be only little work for each of us, and that work should be fun. The rest has to be done by robots.
After that, we don't need money anymore. Everyone gets what we need, and enough is produced. (And none of us wants more than is necessary.)
Then there's also much healthiness. So, no diseases and we get quite old, but feel young all the time.
And certainly a proper mind. So you know a lot and are quite spiritual and so.
(All the other things, like beautiful earth with nice cities, many plants, no ecological problems, etc., follow by themselves.)
I both LIKE to be it like that and THINK it will be like that. The only question is how long it will take. But that's also decided by the effort we put in it.
This is awsome! I love your guys ideas. It is so cool to see the way other people view what the future will be like. For some reason I can't get past the whole "Jetson's" thing. lol. Numinoso you have awsome ideas and it would be neat if thats what the future holds! 
And I LOVE Dan's thought of Heaven on earth...and I'm totally with you on the feeling good and feeling bad. This is cool!
Ann
And I LOVE Dan's thought of Heaven on earth...and I'm totally with you on the feeling good and feeling bad. This is cool!Ann
The future?
Total religious freedom, communal living, full rights for children, the environment and the arts are the highest values, the Dalai Lama runs the UNO from a free Tibet, Bush went back to school, sexuality is sacred, humans, animals and plants all have the same rights, treehouses and skyscrapers, clean oceans, drugs are legal but seldom used, time travel is possible, museums are temples, sushi and champagne for all....
Did anyone read "The Fifth Sacred Thing"?
LOVE
Piratjenny
Total religious freedom, communal living, full rights for children, the environment and the arts are the highest values, the Dalai Lama runs the UNO from a free Tibet, Bush went back to school, sexuality is sacred, humans, animals and plants all have the same rights, treehouses and skyscrapers, clean oceans, drugs are legal but seldom used, time travel is possible, museums are temples, sushi and champagne for all....
Did anyone read "The Fifth Sacred Thing"?
LOVE
Piratjenny
I think I would have it just the way it is. A gigantic puzzle. Why are we here? Something to discover.
Really bad and frightening energies and people in the world. Something that seems insurmountable until someone brave enough comes along to face up to it.
Suffering, why? This is the worst and needs all our attention. This is the place where compassion and love of others shines through.
I believe we are in a training ground to prove ourselves and move ever upwards. This is a grand place designed by an intelligence that has a motive. the only reason I can come up with is to put us in a place where we can spring from.
PJ, How did you get so smart and funny too?
Really bad and frightening energies and people in the world. Something that seems insurmountable until someone brave enough comes along to face up to it.
Suffering, why? This is the worst and needs all our attention. This is the place where compassion and love of others shines through.
I believe we are in a training ground to prove ourselves and move ever upwards. This is a grand place designed by an intelligence that has a motive. the only reason I can come up with is to put us in a place where we can spring from.
PJ, How did you get so smart and funny too?
OH, you´re so chaaaaarming....... ;)
LOVE and smile
PJ
LOVE and smile
PJ
The future doesn't exist, it never comes, there is only now.
Perceptions of Time are intersting don't you think?
There are tablets and heiroglyphs that depict technology that seems beyond what we are capable of today. Imagine Intergalactic space travel and universal sharing of knowledge and goods and it having happened in the past.
Would you then say, if the future could be decided could you go back to the past to a more perfect moment or recreate a more perfect future based on what you percieve as imperfect now?
What would change to make it more perfect? The minds interpretations of reality or the outside manifestation or both?
Would or could the outside become perfect as long as co-created society still believes in imperfection?
Does perfection draw all thoughts and action towards it or does the desire to create it create the action and manifestation?
If the desire to create perfection creates the action would it be possible that the desire coupled with the subconscious foundations that include imperfection as a reality and impetus to change, partially infect the outcome of the manifestation of a world that has the ideal to escape and perfect imperfection? Sort of like shooting ones self in the foot or nailing one foot to the floor!?
Can you say rubber baby buggy bumpers ten times really fast?
Perceptions of Time are intersting don't you think?
There are tablets and heiroglyphs that depict technology that seems beyond what we are capable of today. Imagine Intergalactic space travel and universal sharing of knowledge and goods and it having happened in the past.
Would you then say, if the future could be decided could you go back to the past to a more perfect moment or recreate a more perfect future based on what you percieve as imperfect now?
What would change to make it more perfect? The minds interpretations of reality or the outside manifestation or both?
Would or could the outside become perfect as long as co-created society still believes in imperfection?
Does perfection draw all thoughts and action towards it or does the desire to create it create the action and manifestation?
If the desire to create perfection creates the action would it be possible that the desire coupled with the subconscious foundations that include imperfection as a reality and impetus to change, partially infect the outcome of the manifestation of a world that has the ideal to escape and perfect imperfection? Sort of like shooting ones self in the foot or nailing one foot to the floor!?
Can you say rubber baby buggy bumpers ten times really fast?
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Empty promises, unfortunately....
LOVE
PJ
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WRONG!!!pppbbtbtbttbttbt Â
 the future is the consequence of Now's movement!  :o (and I'd like to see you try and stop Now from moving) :-*dude!
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And now, and now, and now, and now, and now, and now, and now,
You guys get so excited :
You guys get so excited :
when? :P
now
well, what about now? ???
ya sure you betcha
and now?
(wait,...let me guess,......... ;) )
(wait,...let me guess,......... ;) )
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You shouldn't have to guess anymore at this point.....
I mean in this now..[img]http://www.willrich.supanet.com/simpsons/4.gif[/img]
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well what about all those other nows?????hmmm??????
there is only now
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Explain to me again about egolessness...........?
In terms of human awareness of the "I" or in terms of awareness of awareness?
First I would need to know your basic understanding of this so that I may approach you at your level of thought so as not to confuse you.
You seem to have such a hard time with what I have had to say and have made every effort to tell me how wrong and out of touch I am I find it pointless to spend any time on this if you aren't really interested.
Or you could go back to the post in which I conversed with Shawn on this very subject.
First I would need to know your basic understanding of this so that I may approach you at your level of thought so as not to confuse you.
You seem to have such a hard time with what I have had to say and have made every effort to tell me how wrong and out of touch I am I find it pointless to spend any time on this if you aren't really interested.
Or you could go back to the post in which I conversed with Shawn on this very subject.
explanation of egolessness is easy thing, it's the ego being less than ego+1, for example.
or it's ego of joe the preacher being less than ego of numinoso the wise man, another example.
could also be seen the other way round, like no ego being less than one ego.
but i think people with no ego can't exist, so last example is silly.
or it's ego of joe the preacher being less than ego of numinoso the wise man, another example.
could also be seen the other way round, like no ego being less than one ego.
but i think people with no ego can't exist, so last example is silly.
Hmm... I personally doubt that the human race will make it to the next millenia but the way I would make it would be that I wouldn't die no matter what so I could observe everything throughout the rest of Earth's existence. Because 100 years isn't that long to me and then I have only maybe till' 60 in good health. Oh yeah and I would make it so I could remember everything. Kind of selfish but I don't really care. But changing the world to what I like just by wishing it seems a little boring to me. But giving myself divine powers is different. But still the future. I wonder if this makes any sense?
I believe (ie., I cannot prove these beliefs, but presently accept them).
'Now' lasts an infinitely small amount of time. As you think about anything, it has already gone into your past.
The past contains an infinite amount of time and events.
The future contains an infinite amount of time and events.
It may not contain human beings [except Joe].
Best regards, Bill.
'Now' lasts an infinitely small amount of time. As you think about anything, it has already gone into your past.
The past contains an infinite amount of time and events.
The future contains an infinite amount of time and events.
It may not contain human beings [except Joe].
Best regards, Bill.
our consciousness will inevitably be so dramatically altered and expanded in the future that any attempts to define 'what the future will be like' using our current, relatively limited states of mind is utterly pointless.
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our consciousness will inevitably be so dramatically altered and expanded in the future that any attempts to define 'what the future will be like' using our current, relatively limited states of mind is utterly pointless.
The best & truest statement here.
People will go extinct as soon as the love making robot is invented.
"Aw Gee, Across the street's an awful long way for makin out...."
"No Thanks! I'll just makeout with my Monroebot."
-Futurama
"Aw Gee, Across the street's an awful long way for makin out...."
"No Thanks! I'll just makeout with my Monroebot."
-Futurama
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there isn't only now, there is notimething
there isn't only now, there is notimething
I guess as a corolary to "no matter where you go, there you are" is "no matter when you go, now you are."
Or maybe "it's always now."
Or maybe "it's always now."
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