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Thanatos
an excerpt I found on the net that may be of interest to some here:

The only time quanta ever manifest as particles is when we are looking at them.  Physicist Nick Herbert says this has sometimes caused him to imagine that behind his back the world is always "a radically ambiguous and ceaselessly flowing quantum soup." But whenever he turns around and tries to see the soup, his glance instantly freezes it and turns it back into ordinary reality.  He believes this makes us all like Midas,..."Likewise humans can never experience the true texture of quantum reality," say Herbert, "because everything we touch turns to matter."

synchronox
Good post.  

This is physicist as existentialist.
You know if the tree falls in the forest and no one around is there to hear it, did it make a sound?
So if you back up or die does the ground under you turn to waveform?  The rhetorical answer if you get into the discussion is, Does it matter if your not there anyway?
And on and on, I like Herbert, but some arguments only lead to novel drug taking.
He confuses what is happening at the 10-33 centimeter level with what happens after a structure is 'glued' together.  After the photlon to electron conversion, then the electron to atomic particle conversion, then the bonding between atoms, then the atoms forming a molecular string......I hope you get my point.  The solid world is real, the waveform world is equally real.  It is only when looking at the wavefom to particle juncture that uncertainty appears.
On this side of the curtain every thing is real, if someone tries the above argument ask them if they are willing to stick a pin in their hand twice, once when they close their eyes, once with their eyes open.
They will get the point-twice!
Physiucists are smart, they love to play games, they do it all the time and get paid for it.
We have five senses, all are oriented toward the physical world including the small part of the spectrum that we can see.  The visible slice of the energy spectrum and the tiny portion that we can hear.  All else is invisible to us except through some crude measurement appararus that science provides.
If an elephant sits upon your chest, you can't see much else.  We are flooded with data from the physical world.
Getting around that distortion problem is another discussion.
One other thing, if someone argues that solids are nothing but mostly space ask them to stand next to a nuclear explosion when this empty space comes apart..  It is not space, it is particles surrounded with compressed energy-the glue.  The wave form side, the other world is real too.  We are just not built with the right detectors to be constantly aware of what is happening there.
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