Hi guys,


Seems a very nice forum here and I want some little advice here.

I have a little bit experience with vinpocetine and plain L-carnitine and some vitamine supplements, but I didnt took it regularly.

Now, I want a decent regime with new and better products,

On my wish-list:

- Acetyl-l-Carnitine, neural brain growth,and a mitochondrial energy booster and it delivers the acetyl for the acetylcholine, so I think of a Choline resource as well, but I've read that lipoic acid is the best combo with it, as a mitochondrial antioxidant, however Ibenone is also a mitochondrial antioxidant, so why consider lipoic acid?
- Idebenone, creativity boost?
- Alpha-GPC the "better" choline resource?
- something to replace the vinpocetine as a blood/oxygen boost, piracetam, hyderzine, whats the best?
they're all similar right?

Note that I cannot possible get Piracetam as you need an attest here in Belgium

So feel free to advice

Since english does not appear to be your first language I would suggest focusing first on what is your main goal and to go from there.

Learn English?

The main goal is off course to increase my overall intelligence.

To specify, I want to improve in math/physics, I can understand solved problems, but coming up with idea's for new problems myself or learning new content with ease, I've lost that with the years. I have this feeling, the last 5 years my intelligence didnt improve at all and it really scares me since I should been in my prime as a student.

With my memory is everything allright, the thinking tank is empty to the bottom.

You mispelled several words my concern is you may not understand my replies.

How old are you? What are you currently taking? Do you have any health conditions?

21 years old,

And why all this fuzz about some mispelled words, doesnt mean that I cannot understand English, seems that u saw the word Belgium and thought that u were dealing with some French-talking kid, im from the Dutch part and Dutch and English are both German languages, so yes I do understand English. Perhaps not as well as someone who lived in the US for his whole life, but still.

Im currently taking Vinpocetine, and some magnesium and L-carnitine, not the acetylated form.

Health Conditions: None, I guess

Just making sure you understand me clearly.

I would switch to ALC 1,500 mg or so.

What dose of vinpocetine are you taking?

I would considering adding Piracetam, Pyritinol, and/or L-Huperzine A.

2 or 3 times daily 10 mg

The problem about Piracetam is that I need a medical prescription to use it, so it is in whole Europe.
Perhaps I can order it @ some online store in the US, but that would be tricky.
And If I use the combo ALC + Alpha-GPC and the L-Huperzine A,that u recommend me, wouldnt that mean an acetylcholine overkill since it blocks acetylcholinesterase.
Perhaps thats all to much for my acetylcholine pathway all at once.

Also what I think is peculiar, the nootropic intake list of many users it's almost a whole drugstore. 10 products for 1 user are no exceptions, and many of the products have similar effects, is the synergistic effect that important?
Or is it more like I take a bit of this and that and we'll see what works.

Im also limited to a budget, so I cant go over 5 products/supplements.

I would use 20 mg twice a day.

ALC has only a mild effect on ACh levels. I would suggest L-Huperzine A over alpha GPC. Although all can be used together in low doses. Where did i recommend alpha GPC to you?

Several people who want to target as many aspects of brain aging take many nootropics and brain nutrients.

Nowhere, but alpha-GPC is a real resource of choline, so I'm sure that I get enough of that. At the other hand L-Huperzine A is a nice thing, but if let's say my standard level of acetylcholine is low, then an inhibitor of acetylcholinesterase is redundant, because it can only keep the few ACh molecules intact, it wouldnt increase my standard level.

Does that make sense? First, make sure that it's there, and then make it stay there.

Aspects of the brain, hmm.
So maybe u can tell me what's good for solving math/physics problems. Since I've been struggling with that, I've noticed that creativity is as much important as memory and concentration. U may have the knowledge already for solving a problem, but u cannot bend it in the shape of a solution,u dont see it, thats what i mean.
But all those nootropic descriptions are very much the same: memory,concentration, no creativity...

Unless you had brain damage, a severely low choline diet, or a genetic disorder, I don't think your choline stores are low.

Pyritinol may be of some use for complex math problems.

Searched for some information about Pyritinol, same problem as Piracetam, medical suscription needed.
Seems that it's a lot easier in the US to obtain these products, here in Europe they see Piracetam, Pyritinol as serious medication and not as brain nutrition.

Aside from ordering from US sources I'm not sure how to help you.

Ordered Piracetam, L-Huperzine A and Idebenone from Unique Nutrition.

So eventually I chose Piracetam above Pyritinol, if my general learning curve doesnt improve much, I may as well consider Pyritinol.

But first of all, let's hope the Piracetam will arrive with no problems...