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zhenka11230
I am looking for a way to experiment with dreaming. So if you know a drug that has to do with dreaming, please let me know. Thanks!

Especially looking for once that would induce a lucid dream and perhaps make dreams more... odd.
Cassox
Honestly, try nicotine patches. You will have the most vivid dreams of your life.
LifeMirage
QUOTE(zhenka11230 @ Mar 21, 2008, 03:02 PM) *
I am looking for a way to experiment with dreaming. So if you know a drug that has to do with dreaming, please let me know. Thanks!

Especially looking for once that would induce a lucid dream and perhaps make dreams more... odd.


Galantamine would be a good option and safer than addictive drugs like nicotine.
opfor101
QUOTE(LifeMirage @ Mar 22, 2008, 04:43 AM) *

QUOTE(zhenka11230 @ Mar 21, 2008, 03:02 PM) *
I am looking for a way to experiment with dreaming. So if you know a drug that has to do with dreaming, please let me know. Thanks!

Especially looking for once that would induce a lucid dream and perhaps make dreams more... odd.


Galantamine would be a good option and safer than addictive drugs like nicotine.


any idea how galantamine induces lucid dreaming?
i know that galantamine does the same thing as L-huperzine A (increases Acetyl-Choline in the brain)
and that lucid dreams are caused by the activation of the thought centers in the brain during REM sleep.
Would this mean that L-huperzine A would just as likely cause or help induce lucid dreams as well?

Just wondering since while on L-Huperzine A I did not notice any increase in frequency of Lucid dreams (or the ones I can remember)
Flex
I believe galantamine also potentiates nicotine, which would help with dreaming, but there is a good chance I am wrong =)
still
I have found that both melatonin and valerian root increase dream vividness and recall. Phenibut taken before bed can give me really strange dreams and has produced one apparent OBE.
shamly_davisham
The only thing I've heard of is "Calea Zacatechichi." But I'm not sure of its efficacy.
LifeMirage
QUOTE(shamly_davisham @ Aug 07, 2008, 03:02 PM) *
The only thing I've heard of is "Calea Zacatechichi." But I'm not sure of its efficacy.


Mixed reports due to quality variation.
LifeMirage
QUOTE(opfor101 @ Mar 29, 2008, 03:44 AM) *
QUOTE(LifeMirage @ Mar 22, 2008, 04:43 AM) *

QUOTE(zhenka11230 @ Mar 21, 2008, 03:02 PM) *
I am looking for a way to experiment with dreaming. So if you know a drug that has to do with dreaming, please let me know. Thanks!

Especially looking for once that would induce a lucid dream and perhaps make dreams more... odd.


Galantamine would be a good option and safer than addictive drugs like nicotine.


any idea how galantamine induces lucid dreaming?
i know that galantamine does the same thing as L-huperzine A (increases Acetyl-Choline in the brain)
and that lucid dreams are caused by the activation of the thought centers in the brain during REM sleep.
Would this mean that L-huperzine A would just as likely cause or help induce lucid dreams as well?

Just wondering since while on L-Huperzine A I did not notice any increase in frequency of Lucid dreams (or the ones I can remember)


By effecting dopamine and acetylcholine levels.
Galantamine effects the nicotinic cholinergic receptors and AChE (in higher doses).
L-Huperzine A can also help however the dose varies from 100-800 mcg.
opfor101
i used nicotine patches and GOD, were the dreams EXTREMELY vivid.

i actually thought i felt the rain drops (it was raining in the dream)
and emotions were flowing through the dream, happiness till the point where
i wanted to cry lol.


oh one thing, if you arent an avid smoker, do not use nicotine patches. upon waking up, you may feel VERY nauseous and a lil uncoordinated, this lasts about 1-2 hours (probably as the nicotine becomes cotinine-half life of nicotine is 30 minutes i think)

i used prochlorperazine to combat the nauseousness but it didnt help much.


anyway good thing im not the addictive type, i used this method for 2 weeks straight (21 mg patches)
and i dont really like it, mainly due to the EXTREME nausea i get, not being able to stand up without feeling sick to the stomach.
LifeMirage
QUOTE(opfor101 @ Aug 07, 2008, 05:11 PM) *
i used nicotine patches and GOD, were the dreams EXTREMELY vivid.

i actually thought i felt the rain drops (it was raining in the dream)
and emotions were flowing through the dream, happiness till the point where
i wanted to cry lol.


oh one thing, if you arent an avid smoker, do not use nicotine patches. upon waking up, you may feel VERY nauseous and a lil uncoordinated, this lasts about 1-2 hours (probably as the nicotine becomes cotinine-half life of nicotine is 30 minutes i think)

i used prochlorperazine to combat the nauseousness but it didnt help much.


anyway good thing im not the addictive type, i used this method for 2 weeks straight (21 mg patches)
and i dont really like it, mainly due to the EXTREME nausea i get, not being able to stand up without feeling sick to the stomach.


Aside from addiction nicotine damages sexual function.


J Sex Med. 2008 Jan;5(1):110-21. Epub 2007 Oct 25.
Acute effects of nicotine on physiological and subjective sexual arousal in nonsmoking men: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.Harte CB, Meston CM. Department of Psychology, University of Texas at Austin, Austin, TX, USA.

INTRODUCTION: Chronic nicotine treatment has deleterious effects on vascular functioning and catecholamine modulation, which may compromise erectile functioning. Evidence that long-term cigarette smoking is an independent risk factor for introducing impotence is robust. However, limited studies have focused on the acute effects of smoking on physiological sexual response, and none have investigated the deleterious effects of isolated nicotine on human sexual arousal. Consequently, pathophysiological underpinnings of tobacco-induced-and particularly, nicotine-induced-erectile dysfunction are not well understood. AIM: To provide the first empirical examination of the acute effects of isolated nicotine on sexual arousal in nonsmoking men. METHODS: Twenty-eight sexually functional heterosexual men (mean age 21 years), each with less than 100 direct exposures to nicotine, participated in a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, crossover trial. Participants received either Nicorette polacrilex gum (SmithKline Beecham Consumer Healthcare, Pittsburgh, PA, USA) (6 mg; approximately equivalent to smoking one high-yield cigarette) or placebo gum, matched for appearance, taste, and consistency, approximately 40 minutes prior to viewing an erotic film. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Physiological (circumferential change via penile plethysmography) and subjective (continuous self-report) sexual responses to erotic stimuli were examined, as well as changes in mood. RESULTS: Nicotine significantly reduced erectile responses to the erotic films (P = 0.02), corresponding to a 23% reduction in physiological sexual arousal. This occurred in 16 of 20 men with valid physiological recordings. Nicotine had no significant effect on continuous subjective ratings of sexual arousal (P = 0.70) or on mood (all Ps > 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: Isolated nicotine can significantly attenuate physiological sexual arousal in healthy nonsmoking men. These findings have implications for elucidating physiological mechanisms responsible for the effects of nicotine on sexual dysfunction, and for assisting public health policy in considering the deleterious effects of nicotine on sexual health.
opfor101
QUOTE(LifeMirage @ Aug 07, 2008, 06:49 PM) *

QUOTE(opfor101 @ Aug 07, 2008, 05:11 PM) *
i used nicotine patches and GOD, were the dreams EXTREMELY vivid.

i actually thought i felt the rain drops (it was raining in the dream)
and emotions were flowing through the dream, happiness till the point where
i wanted to cry lol.


oh one thing, if you arent an avid smoker, do not use nicotine patches. upon waking up, you may feel VERY nauseous and a lil uncoordinated, this lasts about 1-2 hours (probably as the nicotine becomes cotinine-half life of nicotine is 30 minutes i think)

i used prochlorperazine to combat the nauseousness but it didnt help much.


anyway good thing im not the addictive type, i used this method for 2 weeks straight (21 mg patches)
and i dont really like it, mainly due to the EXTREME nausea i get, not being able to stand up without feeling sick to the stomach.


Aside from addiction nicotine damages sexual function.


J Sex Med. 2008 Jan;5(1):110-21. Epub 2007 Oct 25.
Acute effects of nicotine on physiological and subjective sexual arousal in nonsmoking men: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.Harte CB, Meston CM. Department of Psychology, University of Texas at Austin, Austin, TX, USA.

INTRODUCTION: Chronic nicotine treatment has deleterious effects on vascular functioning and catecholamine modulation, which may compromise erectile functioning. Evidence that long-term cigarette smoking is an independent risk factor for introducing impotence is robust. However, limited studies have focused on the acute effects of smoking on physiological sexual response, and none have investigated the deleterious effects of isolated nicotine on human sexual arousal. Consequently, pathophysiological underpinnings of tobacco-induced-and particularly, nicotine-induced-erectile dysfunction are not well understood. AIM: To provide the first empirical examination of the acute effects of isolated nicotine on sexual arousal in nonsmoking men. METHODS: Twenty-eight sexually functional heterosexual men (mean age 21 years), each with less than 100 direct exposures to nicotine, participated in a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, crossover trial. Participants received either Nicorette polacrilex gum (SmithKline Beecham Consumer Healthcare, Pittsburgh, PA, USA) (6 mg; approximately equivalent to smoking one high-yield cigarette) or placebo gum, matched for appearance, taste, and consistency, approximately 40 minutes prior to viewing an erotic film. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Physiological (circumferential change via penile plethysmography) and subjective (continuous self-report) sexual responses to erotic stimuli were examined, as well as changes in mood. RESULTS: Nicotine significantly reduced erectile responses to the erotic films (P = 0.02), corresponding to a 23% reduction in physiological sexual arousal. This occurred in 16 of 20 men with valid physiological recordings. Nicotine had no significant effect on continuous subjective ratings of sexual arousal (P = 0.70) or on mood (all Ps > 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: Isolated nicotine can significantly attenuate physiological sexual arousal in healthy nonsmoking men. These findings have implications for elucidating physiological mechanisms responsible for the effects of nicotine on sexual dysfunction, and for assisting public health policy in considering the deleterious effects of nicotine on sexual health.



could it be that it depletes dopamine levels, and therefore prolactin kicks in (lack of a better term)
and causes a weakened erection or delayed erection?

just a thought.
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