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Lindsay
People who hold strong beliefs are usually called, dogmatic.
What do we call people who pussyfoot around? I call them, catmatic.
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Hope you will like attached cat as well.
Yes. But from a distance. What on that cat's mind, lunch?
Enki
QUOTE(Lindsay @ Jan 20, 2008, 09:22 PM) *

People who hold strong beliefs are usually called, dogmatic.
What do we call people who pussyfoot around? I call them, catmatic.
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Hope you will like attached cat as well.
Yes. But from a distance. What on that cat's mind, lunch?


Ho ho ho, catmatic. Hellarious indeed.

The ways of the cat's mind are unknown for the human world and not reflected in the prophesies of all kind.
This is the case by the way!

And that will remain a secret up the point when the cat will make the great jump, just like the great wave coming out of the eternity.

You know it is a very old project: To Crack the Belt of the Lies.

I do not remember how things will develop, but one thing is certain: now one will be able to stop the great wave.

As I do not remember the project details I will watch the wave from the mountains. tongue.gif
project-2501
QUOTE(sk1 @ Jan 15, 2008, 07:38 PM) *

what's funny is that through our modern science we can't figure out how to cure Cancer, Aids, travel across the galaxy or to distant galaxies etc. but can somehow "prove" or "convince" ourselves/others that God does not exist. We are talking about God right.

LOOOOL that is highly amusing, I think god finds that very amusing as well.
Rick
Both Zeus and Zarathustra are falling off their chairs with laughter.
Lindsay
Rick, at what? Please go on and explain. Are you, now, a Zoroastrian? Or a Zeusian? biggrin.gif
Lindsay
Fascinating stuff about the way science and faith are working together:
STARCOURSE.ORG. The following is just part of the dialogue. Your constructively critical comments welcomed.
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http://www.starcourse.org/
Gives us information about the number of top notch scientists--for example, Francis Collins, who helped map the human genome. Early in his career, he was a missionary to Nigeria and sees no conflict between theology and science.
http://www.genome.gov/10001018
There is such a thing as A PNEUMATOLOGICAL--having to do with person/spirit--APPROACH TO TOTAL HEALTH
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http://www.personalizedmedicinecoalition.o...ip/overview.php
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Dr John Polkinghorne KBE FRS was head of the Particle Physics Group in the Mathematics Department at Cambridge University. Internationally respected throughout the physics community, he became an Anglican Priest and is now one of the world's leading writers and speakers on science and religion, as well as a leading authority on scientific and medical ethics. His official home-pages are here

Prof Simon Conway Morris FRS is Professor of Evolutionary Paleobiology at the University of Cambridge. His book The Crucible of Creation gives fascinating insights into the developing story of evolution by a real expert at the cutting edge of science, and debunks some of the misconceptions spread by popularisers like Richard Dawkins and Steven Gould. Some extracts from this book are here.
Lindsay
With sites like this:
http://www.personalizedmedicinecoalition.org/
It seems that more and more are beginning to get on the what I call the pneumatological (spiritual) band waggon. Thank GØD!
Enki
New horizons are opening. Atheism is an old heresy and is an old form of evil worshiping.
Lindsay
FROM http://www.scienceagogo.com/forum
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One poster asked us to discuss the fundamentals of philosophy, science and religion.
I (LGKing) wrote: One of the fundamentals, as I see it, is the bringing together of science and religion. Thus I referred to the following:
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ABOUT MICHAEL DOWD and his work on bringing science and faith together.
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http://www.thegreatstory.org/who_we_are.html
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Praise for Michael's 2007 book from NOBEL LAUREATES

#1. "The universe took 13.7 billion years to produce this amazing book. I heartily recommend it."� JOHN MATHER, NASA CHIEF SCIENTIST, 2006 NOBEL PRIZE IN PHYSICS

#2. "The science vs. religion debate is over! Michael Dowd masterfully unites rationality and spirituality in a world view that celebrates the mysteries of existence and inspires each human being to achieve a higher purpose in life. A must read for all, including scientists." � CRAIG MELLO, 2006 Nobel PRIZE IN PHYSIOLOGY OR MEDICINE

#3. "Dowd has given us a bridge across one of the major chasms of our times: religion and evolution. His passion for both science and religion is contagious. Reading his book, one can see that the discourse itself has just evolved to a whole new level!" � REV. MARLIN LAVAHNAR, SENIOR MINISTER, ALL SOULS UNITARIAN CHURCH, TULSA

# 4. "If anyone can persuade a monotheist that the science of evolution � biological, geological, or cosmological � can enrich his or her faith, I'm betting on Michael Dowd." � THOMAS C. SCHELLING, 2005 NOBEL PRIZE IN ECONOMICS

#5. "At last, someone who understands that all of reality is sacred and science is our method of comprehending it." � LEE HARTWELL, 2001 NOBEL PRIZE IN PHYSIOLOGY OR MEDICINE

#6. "Honest students of God should welcome the revelations of science as insights, not fear them as threats. Here is a book in that spirit by an ardent believer, who takes evolution to heart, and celebrates it."� FRANK WILCZEK, 2004 NOBEL PRIZE IN PHYSICS
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Tue Jan 29 2008 09:28 PM

Re: Focusing on Understanding the Fundamentals

Ellis, who usually writes as an atheist wrote: Take out 'is sacred' and substitute 'exists' and it makes a lot of sense.
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Wed Jan 30 2008 03:15 PM I. RevLgking wrote back and said:

Ellis, you mean something like this: "At last, someone who understands that all of reality simply IS...and science is our method of comprehending it."

Ellis, for me, GOD is not a three-dimensional and personal being with any human-like form--like an idol. It is the term that I give to all the reality that IS... and experience, with my senses. I think of myself as a piece--that is, a son, or a daughter--of that reality, which I feel is a process, not an event.
Lindsay
One Mike Kremer wrote:
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Revlgking

I have not heard of Michael Dowd before now.
He seems to have come up with a unique way of teaching his flock
a more realistic and truthful method of Religious teaching.

His book entitled "Thank G-d for Evolution" is an eyecatcher, both for the religious and for the scientist, I would think.
I for one will get a copy to read, since there has always been a conflict between science V religion, unfortunately.

Hopefully his book and teachings will more than overturn the present feelings about Christian Creationists teachings.
Teachings that really confuse modern school kids. Nowat least they can start to believe that the World is 14 Billion years old rather than the 6000 yearrs, taught by Creationists
I can see Michael Dowd doing more for unifying Religion and Science than any one else before him.
I for one wish him well.
Enki
QUOTE(Lindsay @ Nov 15, 2007, 10:02 PM) *

when I was a young theist--quite a long time ago--I would be petitioning God: "O God, I beseech you to reveal yourself in all your glory to all those who question your existence. Open their blind eyes, closed minds and soften their hard hearts...I do not have the power of persuasion and I need your help...etc."


Lindsay, I love you. How I could miss that passage before!?

He he, ha ha, ho ho ho. Well. What one can say to that? Just few words:

HAVEtyanes, HAVEtenitc,

Amen!

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