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opfor101
Hey guys, im 16 right now

and over the course of two years i've noticed that my short term memory really is atrocious
alot of times when i talk to people, i forget the entire topic i have been discussing with the friend and often the friend has to fill me in.

this also carries over to my class lessons where i sometimes cant remember anything (i'm at a tip of the tongue moment too often, things seem familiar but i cant recall the exact information and such )

what can i take that is quite cheap (student budget) that would make profound if not noticeable effects that would help me with my short term memory and long term.

thanks alot!

and also can anyone provide me links to sites that sell the items.
maximus242
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=13676
forgottenpresence
GINSENG, buy it!

This is the best stuff you can get in my opinion and experience -

http://www.aviva.ca/shop/products.asp?itemid=2668&catid=186

Don't expect any quick improvement of memory. It takes one around 6 months to feel the full effects of ginseng, so keep at it. I have been taking this stuff for about 3 months now, and it has worked wonders. Take my word for it! My memory has improved, period.

Another good solution would be to get into meditation. Start off at 5 minutes per day and work your way up. Do it the moment you wake up as your not as attached to your thought process.

Cheers
LifeMirage
QUOTE(opfor101 @ Oct 28, 2007, 05:24 PM) *
Hey guys, im 16 right now

and over the course of two years i've noticed that my short term memory really is atrocious
alot of times when i talk to people, i forget the entire topic i have been discussing with the friend and often the friend has to fill me in.

this also carries over to my class lessons where i sometimes cant remember anything (i'm at a tip of the tongue moment too often, things seem familiar but i cant recall the exact information and such )

what can i take that is quite cheap (student budget) that would make profound if not noticeable effects that would help me with my short term memory and long term.

thanks alot!

and also can anyone provide me links to sites that sell the items.


L-Huperzine A would be one of the more effective compounds you can take.
forgottenpresence
That's a good one, Godconscious.

Kirlian technology can measure the energy in food. The better the food we eat, the more energy we have. And this energy can and will allow one to develop the mind.

Eat super foods!

Energy field of unhealthy body


Energy field of healthy body


Energy field of french fries


Energy field of fresh organic potato


Living food - organic sprout


Dead food - non organic sprout


Organic orange juice


Non-organic pasteurized orange juice



Great Pyramid of Giza: Stone from "Kings Chamber"
Were the pyramids Healing Chambers?


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opfor101
QUOTE(GodConsciousness @ Oct 29, 2007, 10:58 AM) *

Consider taking a close look at your diet. Are you eating enough fish, fruits and vegetables? What kinds of things are you eating on a regular basis?


hey i eat a substantial amount of food in a day (primarily because i am bodybuilding)
alot of meat, veggies, eggs, and oats. rice too.

about 6-11 meals a day lol.
so i dont think diet is really an issue.

thanks for raising the question though.
opfor101
btw for L huperzine, does any choline supplement need to be used with it since racetams in particular require choline to prevent depletion.
forgottenpresence
QUOTE(opfor101 @ Nov 05, 2007, 08:01 PM) *

QUOTE(GodConsciousness @ Oct 29, 2007, 10:58 AM) *

Consider taking a close look at your diet. Are you eating enough fish, fruits and vegetables? What kinds of things are you eating on a regular basis?


hey i eat a substantial amount of food in a day (primarily because i am bodybuilding)
alot of meat, veggies, eggs, and oats. rice too.

about 6-11 meals a day lol.
so i dont think diet is really an issue.

thanks for raising the question though.


If you are eating a lot of meat, that may have an effect on your memory. Meat is a heavy food and it takes your body a lot of time to process (especially beef, pork, etc.). This processing hinders the circulation of energy (chi or prana) through your body and can hinder your personal growth. This is why people fast, the awareness experienced is profound when your body isn't busy processing food.

You know that it takes your body 24 hours to digest pork, and it doesn't even fully digest? Gross! I like to stick with fish, and chicken once in a while. I try not to eat chicken during the day as I find it has an effect on my energy levels and can make me more lazy. Laziness isn't good for my memory either. Try fasting for 4 days alone in the woods, it will make you realize how important and beneficial it is to eat live, raw foods.
FDk
Routine exercise is a must for both healthy mind and body...

In addition to making changes in your diet also make changes to your life style (like spending few mins both morning and evening meditating and taking tai chi or hatha yoga etc)

Flex
Random thought (may be misguded as it is way too early in the morning for me); what is the point of eating say unheated honey vs. process honey? I know there are "active enzymes" but unless these enzymes are used for digestion, would not they be broken down into amino acids before entering the body anyways?
opfor101
QUOTE(Flex @ Nov 06, 2007, 10:52 AM) *

Random thought (may be misguded as it is way too early in the morning for me); what is the point of eating say unheated honey vs. process honey? I know there are "active enzymes" but unless these enzymes are used for digestion, would not they be broken down into amino acids before entering the body anyways?


haha that was a very offtopic question but, i believe thats due to there being enzymes within the honey that are destroyed in the heating process (to kill bacteria)

there is no major difference with it, btw sugar is honey not proteins so it would turn from polysaccharides to glucose via glycolysis in the body.

i really dont see much difference in heated honey vs unheated since thats all honey is (sugar)
also the glucose oxidase enzyme found in unheated honey isnt all that great (turns glucose into hydrogen peroxide) despite being antibacterial, hydrogen peroxide is a toxin in the body and is a waste product. its naturally occurring in the body anyway (thats why we have peroxisomes within our cells)

so i wouldnt worry about it, in terms of nutrition or health.
Flex
I believe the honey I have may contain bee pollen as well, because it definitely says it contains active enzymes (enzymes are proteins no?).

Sorry to have completely changed the topic, but now that we are on this same train of thought anyways, wouldn't HGH (a protein I believe) be broken down into amino acids before being digested, thus any oral HGH supplements (or similar substances) would have no efficacy unless taken intraveniously, or topically correct?
opfor101
QUOTE(Flex @ Nov 06, 2007, 04:30 PM) *

I believe the honey I have may contain bee pollen as well, because it definitely says it contains active enzymes (enzymes are proteins no?).

Sorry to have completely changed the topic, but now that we are on this same train of thought anyways, wouldn't HGH (a protein I believe) be broken down into amino acids before being digested, thus any oral HGH supplements (or similar substances) would have no efficacy unless taken intraveniously, or topically correct?


transdermally, i dunno,
but ALL peptide hormones need to be injected.
thats why all those supposed HGH pills dont work. even if they are HGH themselves, they would be destroyed.

but enzymes work as enzymes within the body and usually arent broken down into their respective aminos.
thats why we are able to take enzyme supplements for those with lactose intolerance or indigestion.

and also HGH is SOOO expensive. you can take stuff like CJC 1295, a cheaper alternative to HGH. causes you to release GH on your own, however this is also a peptide and needs to be injected as well

and also you CANNOT inject intravenously, you have inject in to the fat or muscle not the vein.
opfor101
QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 06, 2007, 12:57 AM) *

QUOTE(opfor101 @ Nov 05, 2007, 08:01 PM) *

QUOTE(GodConsciousness @ Oct 29, 2007, 10:58 AM) *

Consider taking a close look at your diet. Are you eating enough fish, fruits and vegetables? What kinds of things are you eating on a regular basis?


hey i eat a substantial amount of food in a day (primarily because i am bodybuilding)
alot of meat, veggies, eggs, and oats. rice too.

about 6-11 meals a day lol.
so i dont think diet is really an issue.

thanks for raising the question though.


If you are eating a lot of meat, that may have an effect on your memory. Meat is a heavy food and it takes your body a lot of time to process (especially beef, pork, etc.). This processing hinders the circulation of energy (chi or prana) through your body and can hinder your personal growth. This is why people fast, the awareness experienced is profound when your body isn't busy processing food.

You know that it takes your body 24 hours to digest pork, and it doesn't even fully digest? Gross! I like to stick with fish, and chicken once in a while. I try not to eat chicken during the day as I find it has an effect on my energy levels and can make me more lazy. Laziness isn't good for my memory either. Try fasting for 4 days alone in the woods, it will make you realize how important and beneficial it is to eat live, raw foods.


what?!! no meat ohmy.gif maybe thats why im so lazy at times LOL
almost all my food contains some sorta meat whether its pork, chicken, beef.
Rick
A body builder needs the meat if he's really doing a good workout. I tried fasting after a workout one time, and I was really stiff and sore the next day.
opfor101
QUOTE(Rick @ Nov 06, 2007, 07:54 PM) *

A body builder needs the meat if he's really doing a good workout. I tried fasting after a workout one time, and I was really stiff and sore the next day.

yeah tell me about it.
calories are everything when you work out.

forgottenpresence
QUOTE(Rick @ Nov 06, 2007, 04:54 PM) *

A body builder needs the meat if he's really doing a good workout. I tried fasting after a workout one time, and I was really stiff and sore the next day.


True, if you are into material growth. Monks in the Himalayas who dry wet blankets over themselves in freezing temperature would pobably agree that such a diet would be unproductive towards attaining internal heat (spiritual growth). This heat is blissful, activates the higher mind and strengthens the nervous system so it makes sense that memory is associated with this.



np: pete namlook - air iv
FDk
QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 07, 2007, 02:54 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Nov 06, 2007, 04:54 PM) *

A body builder needs the meat if he's really doing a good workout. I tried fasting after a workout one time, and I was really stiff and sore the next day.


True, if you are into material growth. Monks in the Himalayas who dry wet blankets over themselves in freezing temperature would pobably agree that such a diet would be unproductive towards attaining internal heat (spiritual growth). This heat is blissful, activates the higher mind and strengthens the nervous system so it makes sense that memory is associated with this.



np: pete namlook - air iv



internal heat ?

What is it?

Rick
QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 07, 2007, 10:54 AM) *
... Monks in the Himalayas who dry wet blankets over themselves in freezing temperature would pobably agree that such a diet would be unproductive towards attaining internal heat (spiritual growth).

Have you tried that? I prefer to avoid unnecessary suffering.
opfor101
QUOTE(Rick @ Nov 07, 2007, 08:20 PM) *

QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 07, 2007, 10:54 AM) *
... Monks in the Himalayas who dry wet blankets over themselves in freezing temperature would pobably agree that such a diet would be unproductive towards attaining internal heat (spiritual growth).

Have you tried that? I prefer to avoid unnecessary suffering.


if im not mistaken, apparently monks can increase their body heat just by focusing and pretty much dry a freezing wet blanket with their own bodyheat.

although it seems pretty cool to develop yourself spiritually.
FDk
QUOTE(opfor101 @ Nov 07, 2007, 08:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Nov 07, 2007, 08:20 PM) *

QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 07, 2007, 10:54 AM) *
... Monks in the Himalayas who dry wet blankets over themselves in freezing temperature would pobably agree that such a diet would be unproductive towards attaining internal heat (spiritual growth).

Have you tried that? I prefer to avoid unnecessary suffering.


if im not mistaken, apparently monks can increase their body heat just by focusing and pretty much dry a freezing wet blanket with their own bodyheat.

although it seems pretty cool to develop yourself spiritually.


ohhh!!!! if it is you in that picture and you are 16 I am sure you have to cut down the Beef and pork in significant portion.. Those creatine in the food will cost you when you are 24-29 ( in other words, there is very high possibility of you being obese )
forgottenpresence
QUOTE(Rick @ Nov 07, 2007, 05:20 PM) *

QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 07, 2007, 10:54 AM) *
... Monks in the Himalayas who dry wet blankets over themselves in freezing temperature would pobably agree that such a diet would be unproductive towards attaining internal heat (spiritual growth).

Have you tried that? I prefer to avoid unnecessary suffering.


I only wish I could, Rick laugh.gif

Wouldn't it be nice if you could do it without suffering, though?
forgottenpresence
QUOTE(FDk @ Nov 07, 2007, 06:26 PM) *

ohhh!!!! if it is you in that picture and you are 16 I am sure you have to cut down the Beef and pork in significant portion..


LOL

You know what they say... the less you eat the longer you live!
opfor101
QUOTE(FDk @ Nov 07, 2007, 09:26 PM) *

QUOTE(opfor101 @ Nov 07, 2007, 08:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Nov 07, 2007, 08:20 PM) *

QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 07, 2007, 10:54 AM) *
... Monks in the Himalayas who dry wet blankets over themselves in freezing temperature would pobably agree that such a diet would be unproductive towards attaining internal heat (spiritual growth).

Have you tried that? I prefer to avoid unnecessary suffering.


if im not mistaken, apparently monks can increase their body heat just by focusing and pretty much dry a freezing wet blanket with their own bodyheat.

although it seems pretty cool to develop yourself spiritually.


ohhh!!!! if it is you in that picture and you are 16 I am sure you have to cut down the Beef and pork in significant portion.. Those creatine in the food will cost you when you are 24-29 ( in other words, there is very high possibility of you being obese )



haha never heard that one before, i eat beef and pork by the pound everyday.

i also do take creatine supplements.....
im 5'8 and 190 lbs so im officially overweight. 1.1 points to go before im officially obese LOL
forgottenpresence
YOU EAT PORK EVERY DAY

grooooosssss

give your body a break man!
FDk
QUOTE(opfor101 @ Nov 10, 2007, 01:50 PM) *

QUOTE(FDk @ Nov 07, 2007, 09:26 PM) *

QUOTE(opfor101 @ Nov 07, 2007, 08:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick @ Nov 07, 2007, 08:20 PM) *

QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 07, 2007, 10:54 AM) *
... Monks in the Himalayas who dry wet blankets over themselves in freezing temperature would pobably agree that such a diet would be unproductive towards attaining internal heat (spiritual growth).

Have you tried that? I prefer to avoid unnecessary suffering.


if im not mistaken, apparently monks can increase their body heat just by focusing and pretty much dry a freezing wet blanket with their own bodyheat.

although it seems pretty cool to develop yourself spiritually.


ohhh!!!! if it is you in that picture and you are 16 I am sure you have to cut down the Beef and pork in significant portion.. Those creatine in the food will cost you when you are 24-29 ( in other words, there is very high possibility of you being obese )



haha never heard that one before, i eat beef and pork by the pound everyday.

i also do take creatine supplements.....
im 5'8 and 190 lbs so im officially overweight. 1.1 points to go before im officially obese LOL




First and foremost: You need a good cleansing/detox program..

Second: Eat Meat but in moderation replace meat with green vegetables and fruits..

Third: Do meditation and body relaxation (this will have immense effect on both mind and body - your
memory will increase and body fat will decrease)

Fourth: limit creatine intake to less than 5 grams per day/ five days a week

Fifth: Start doing it asap
Flex
I suggest phasing out the meat in favor of soy--your body will thank you.
forgottenpresence
At least replace pork and beef with chicken and fish...

mmmm, fish

Beef in moderation is definitely good, though.
FDk
QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 12, 2007, 01:33 PM) *

Beef in moderation is definitely good, though.


Beef in small portions is good for bodybuilding (that is, if someone is interested in such a thing) other than that fish with high omega3 fats are very good for brain and memory..
LifeMirage
QUOTE(FDk @ Nov 12, 2007, 01:36 PM) *
QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Nov 12, 2007, 01:33 PM) *

Beef in moderation is definitely good, though.


Beef in small portions is good for bodybuilding (that is, if someone is interested in such a thing) other than that fish with high omega3 fats are very good for brain and memory..


Beef can be a good source of Omega 3 fats and CLA for general health.
Donovan
You're 16, I would recommend you stay away from any type of pharmaceutical agent at your young age.

Diet, and vitamins, and perhaps some very low dose herbal supplements (but dont take too many) would be the best recommendation.

You say you work out. Perhaps you are working out too much compared to you nutrient intake. Your body will pull its extra resources away from other areas to build muscle.

I strongly disagree with those recommending that a high protein diet is not good. Speaking from experience, protein is the best thing you can take to help out your brain. Especially the lean meats and eggs. Carbs are easily processed in the body and can make you feel tired and sluggish. Soy may not be as good (at least for men), there are plenty of reports that Soy products elevate estrogen levels in the body.

Combining a high protein diet, with a high amount of veggies and fruits (and very moderate to low amount of carbs) you should see a great improvement in mental faculties. It did for me.
opfor101
QUOTE(Donovan @ Jan 23, 2008, 01:17 PM) *

You're 16, I would recommend you stay away from any type of pharmaceutical agent at your young age.

Diet, and vitamins, and perhaps some very low dose herbal supplements (but dont take too many) would be the best recommendation.

You say you work out. Perhaps you are working out too much compared to you nutrient intake. Your body will pull its extra resources away from other areas to build muscle.

I strongly disagree with those recommending that a high protein diet is not good. Speaking from experience, protein is the best thing you can take to help out your brain. Especially the lean meats and eggs. Carbs are easily processed in the body and can make you feel tired and sluggish. Soy may not be as good (at least for men), there are plenty of reports that Soy products elevate estrogen levels in the body.

Combining a high protein diet, with a high amount of veggies and fruits (and very moderate to low amount of carbs) you should see a great improvement in mental faculties. It did for me.



haha well, i take ALOT of nutrients, and i mean alot.
on average, i eat more than what two people eat in an entire day. sometimes 3.

high protein, high carbs, moderate fat. around 4500 calories a day.

but im thinking of taking ephedrine as an alternative to adderall or ritalin.
LifeMirage
QUOTE(opfor101 @ Jan 23, 2008, 11:49 PM) *
QUOTE(Donovan @ Jan 23, 2008, 01:17 PM) *

You're 16, I would recommend you stay away from any type of pharmaceutical agent at your young age.

Diet, and vitamins, and perhaps some very low dose herbal supplements (but dont take too many) would be the best recommendation.

You say you work out. Perhaps you are working out too much compared to you nutrient intake. Your body will pull its extra resources away from other areas to build muscle.

I strongly disagree with those recommending that a high protein diet is not good. Speaking from experience, protein is the best thing you can take to help out your brain. Especially the lean meats and eggs. Carbs are easily processed in the body and can make you feel tired and sluggish. Soy may not be as good (at least for men), there are plenty of reports that Soy products elevate estrogen levels in the body.

Combining a high protein diet, with a high amount of veggies and fruits (and very moderate to low amount of carbs) you should see a great improvement in mental faculties. It did for me.



haha well, i take ALOT of nutrients, and i mean alot.
on average, i eat more than what two people eat in an entire day. sometimes 3.

high protein, high carbs, moderate fat. around 4500 calories a day.

but im thinking of taking ephedrine as an alternative to adderall or ritalin.


You would be better off with Pyritinol or another Nootropic than Ephedrine.
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