lucid_dream
Oct 22, 2007, 06:25 PM
I feel compelled to comment on a phenomena which I've been increasingly encountering here in the U.S. That is, intolerant Christianity, and the propagation of the false belief that the U.S. was founded on Christianity. It's funny because most of the Christians I know are from the dregs of society and offer little of value to society, yet they try, unsuccessfully, to take a moral high ground and will even unjustifiably claim that the U.S. would be better if everyone were Christian. Who are they kidding? The type of intolerance, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness that characterizes "christians" in the U.S. is just the thing that will lead to the downfall of the U.S. Some proclaim, perhaps correctly, that this has already occurred. I'm not convinced that it has, and if rationality prevails, it won't and Christianity will die off, or be radically transformed (which amounts to the same thing), like any other superstition or archaic and irrelevant religion.
What's the biggest threat to the U.S.? China, Islam, apathy, poverty.... No, the biggest threat is definitely Christianity, and all of the intolerance, bigotry and narrow-mindedness that this religion encapsulates, and the day that the U.S. becomes a Christian nation will indeed be a dark day in history. It will be the day that the U.S. breathes its last breath.
I guess the question is, can the U.S. be saved from Christianity? And is it worth it?
maximus242
Oct 23, 2007, 12:41 AM
Well one would only need to look at the medieval ages to get an idea of what life would be like if everyone were Christian...
To save a country from a way of thinking, they're needs to be a change in thought. In other words, a Renaissance.
code buttons
Oct 23, 2007, 05:20 AM
It'll be interesting which will come first: A vaccine for AIDS or a vaccine for Christianity (a disease of the mind).
code buttons
Oct 23, 2007, 10:34 AM
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"...Christian conservatives want more respect. They were instrumental in propelling George W. Bush to power—twice—and now they're feeling neglected. At a "Values Voters" summit in Washington last week, leading evangelicals gathered to speak out and take a straw poll. The survey showed how unhappy they are with the twice-divorced, pro-choice Republican front runner for the presidential nomination, Rudy Giuliani. He got less than two percent of the overall vote. (Some Christian activists have threatened to back a third-party candidate if Giuliani wins the GOP nomination.) Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney won the straw poll of 5,775 conservatives, which included voters who have been able to cast online ballots since August. But many evangelicals are uncomfortable with Romney's Mormon faith. That may have factored in the voting of people who actually attended the summit: Romney lost that tally by a wide margin to former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, who is also an ordained Southern Baptist minister. To better understand the current thinking of Christian conservatives, NEWSWEEK's Jeffrey Bartholet and Eve Conant spoke to Richard Land, a leading evangelical who serves as president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. Excerpts:..."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/57631
Rick
Oct 23, 2007, 11:44 AM
QUOTE(lucid_dream @ Oct 22, 2007, 07:25 PM)

... The type of intolerance, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness that characterizes "christians" in the U.S. is just the thing that will lead to the downfall of the U.S. ...
It's too late. The combination of peak oil (hidden by Christian corporatists), global warming (denied by Christian corporatists), wars of aggression (encouraged by Christians), Islamic jihad (inspired by evangelizing Christians), and the mortgage finance debacle driving the stock market collapse (driven by Christian greed) have pushed us past the tipping point.
lucid_dream
Oct 23, 2007, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(Rick @ Oct 23, 2007, 12:44 PM)

It's too late. The combination of peak oil (hidden by Christian corporatists), global warming (denied by Christian corporatists), wars of aggression (encouraged by Christians), Islamic jihad (inspired by evangelizing Christians), and the mortgage finance debacle driving the stock market collapse (driven by Christian greed) have pushed us past the tipping point.
I guess I see China in my future