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AUSTRAL ALIEN
Hello All,
This is my first Post. I stumbled upon your Web Site while looking for another. For a long time I have developed a Maxim, but I have never had it tested. From reading some of the Forums, this must be the place.

My Maxim is:- "Absolute truth is but a moment in time."

The present is a moment. A moment being a second. As we know we cannot see the future, you can only predict it. But a moment being a second means that absolute truth can only last a second and therefore everything in the past can only be called relative truth. The further back you go in time the less relative the truth.
For example:- If you think back 5 minutes from the present, can you absolutely say, you know everything that was happening at that time. e.g. Posture, Placement of hands and feet, Fidgeting, Driving, Talking, Walking, Consciously Seeing, Sleeping or a hundred other things that can happen. In a court of Law, if you are called as a witness to an accident or some other heinous crime, you will be asked to remember a lot of these things.
In regards to history, the further you go back in time, the less relative truth is. Let's say 2,000 years ago, when the Bible was written. Fundamentalists believe in every word in the book is the truth, but it can't be, can it? So much of it is heresay, myths, legends fantasies and half-truths. For it to be a book of truth, you need corroborative evidence to back it up. The evidence is sketchy and biased. Sketchy because of the distance of time. To this day we only have a partial picture of the entire era. And biased because those who wrote the Gospels were disciples of Jesus and those who search Biblical history are usually believers anyway and prone to some personal bias.
I hope I have given the readers of this forum something to think about.
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Yes, you've given me something to think about. I'm glad you found us. I hope your staying is a pleasant one, Allien.

P.S. I'm having troble loading up a new avatar. Even re-loading the one I had just removed turned out to be impossible. Anybody knows what's going on?
Enki
Hi Allien,

Most people here have scientific outlook at the reality.

QUOTE(code buttons @ Sep 28, 2007, 08:06 AM) *

P.S. I'm having troble loading up a new avatar. Even re-loading the one I had just removed turned out to be impossible. Anybody knows what's going on?


At system failure even the solution of simple equations is unstable. laugh.gif
Joesus
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"Absolute truth is but a moment in time."

IF a second is an expression in time then isn't change still occurring? You may take a motion impression such as a moving film and break it down into frames per second to give you the illusion that time stands still for that moment or that single frame, like looking at a picture and through interpretation state what you see relative to everything in the picture. But if you were to further break the moment into segments in time such as a nanosecond you would find that time does not stand still in a single second.
What you may perceive in a second is still relative to what you understand and can interpret through the focus of the senses. Not everyone creates the same field of awareness nor do they notice the same things in a group of moments let alone a second in time.
Then to say that what is absolute in that moment of time is isolated to the perception may or may not include the bigger picture. Relative to ones field of perception you may not take into account what is happening or what exists outside of your field of vision or you awareness according to your present level of conscious awareness.

Philosophically speaking if you were to chase down an absolute truth rather than a relative truth, an absolute truth would have to exist regardless of change in shifting awareness, sensory perception or cognitive abilities in time and space and belief.

In a situation requiring resolution of facts our own scientific methods accumulate more than one idea and then postulate a theory which is subject always to change. That relative theory basically being an agreement of opinions and interpretations of facts based on the impressions of what is called an authority. As those who make up the authority age and die, the new and improved authority must either perpetuate old truths of create new ones.

I think if one is to try and grab some air and present it as THE AIR by the time it is presented it may or may not have initially contained all the subtleties of the universe, but it may contain what one believes one can grab in a second of time according to ones knowledge, location and abilities to comprehend.
Enki
I forgot to mention: most people excluding Joesus. tongue.gif
Joesus
I don't think it has stopped anyone from being aware yet.
Some might have some strange ideas about the absolute sucking all the fun out of life, when the fun in life wouldn't really exist without it.
The Ego could identify with its ideas of the absolute and make claims to the idea of being ego-less.
But typically the ego never can maintain anything absolute into its experiences because everything the ego is founded on shifts as beliefs shift.
Joesus
Usually that'd be true.
When one drops all identifications and becomes ego-less, then there is grandeur in being.
Joesus
How many parts are there to a human being?
Enki
QUOTE(Dianah @ Sep 28, 2007, 03:13 PM) *

quoting Joe;

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Philosophically speaking if you were to chase down an absolute truth rather than a relative truth, an absolute truth would have to exist regardless of change in shifting awareness, sensory perception or cognitive abilities in time and space and belief.


Philosophically speaking, absolute truth is an illusion that thwarts shifting in awareness, and grooms what you label as ego, into delusional grandeur.


Well said Dianah!
cckeiser
What is “Absolute Truth”?

Is there such a thing as truth “as it is”?
If so, we can never know it for certain. All any of us can ever know is truth as we perceive it.
Which fits very nicely within this Perspectives topic.
It’s just a matter of perspectives.

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Joesus
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