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ollie713
The question:
With all of the marijuana usage in our world, it surprises me that there is such a lack of readily available information regarding the positive and negative aspects of Mrs. Jane. Can you help fill in these gaps right now?
ie: estranged from society, slower neuron firing, etc.

Please, I am looking for credible information in your posts. Maybe some good articles if you can find them.

I want to know the negatives, positives, long-term, short-term, age specific correlations to side-effects, target dosages, toxicity ratings (i don't believe those exist, but what levels contribute to some form of negative effects)

The positive and negative externalities a marijuana user can experience.

I plan on developing a very unbiased form of advertisement in this debate. I want this information to reach mass media. Me and my partner will work hard to make that possible. Your job is to please supply the most credible and sound research developments today. Please also feel free to leave your personal comments, stories, and opinions as well.

Thanks,
Frank
Orbz
There is quite a plethora of this information and to give you everything you want, you'd need to pay me.
Maybe a better way is to write something that we could then edit for accuracy or include known evidence supporting or contradicting what you're saying. This also targets the information to that you require. Otherwise I could give you information on the interaction between endogenous corticosteroid function and CB1 receptors and the implications this could have on animal models of schizophrenia, or, I could give you qualitative 'research' on a user's experience while under the influence of cannabis in positive and negative environments, or, interaction effects between cannabis and commonly used drugs of abuse, or, the pharmacokinetic profile of THC and its metabolites, or, .....

But as a start, one of the first reviews when inputting cannabis onto pubmed ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ )
QUOTE
Curr Opin Psychiatry. 2007 May;20(3):228-34.
Cannabis use and psychiatric and cogitive disorders: the chicken or the egg?
Di Forti M, Morrison PD, Butt A, Murray RM.

Department of Psychological Medicine, Institute of Psychiatry, London, UK.

PURPOSE OF REVIEW: Cannabis is the world's most commonly used illicit drug. In this review, we consider the recent literature on the effects of cannabis on mental health and on cognition. RECENT FINDINGS: Cannabis use in adolescence increases the risk of later schizophrenia-like psychoses, especially in genetically vulnerable individuals. Not surprisingly, patients already suffering from psychosis who use cannabis have a worse outcome than those who do not. These effects of cannabis may be consequent on its impact on the dopamine system. There is less evidence of cannabis playing an aetiological role in other mental disorders including depression, but there have been far fewer studies. Heavy cannabis use has also been shown to affect memory and learning performance, both in healthy individuals and in patients suffering from psychosis. Combined cognitive-behavioural therapy and motivational interviewing seems a promising psychological intervention to achieve a cessation of cannabis use in patients suffering from schizophrenia. SUMMARY: Further research is needed to understand the biological mechanisms underlying the effects of cannabis on mental health, but intervention strategies to help patients abstain should currently be implemented in psychiatric services, and public education campaigns should be directed at increasing awareness of the health risks of cannabis.
forgottenpresence
I have been smoking pot for almost 5 years now, but I have given up the addiction. It is the addiction that is destructive in my experience. About a year ago I quit being a daily smoker, now I do it only in social situation with friends and what not. It has no negative effect on me doing it this way. When I used to smoke daily, I would find myself smoking alone quite often at night. When I had pot, I would always feel the desire to smoke it. It would burn me out, make me lazy, and prevent me from holding a job.

Now that it is not in control of my life, I have more control over my life. Pot is a very very useful tool for me as it helps me stay centered and happy. It also keeps my friends and I connected as we have a reason to be together. Smoke and socialize. Much healthier than drinking! Of course there are other things to do with my friends besides smoking up, yet I feel the pot has helped kept our relationship healthy.

forgottenpresence
Orbz, psychosis is a normal happening for those along the spiritual path. Many masters say it is an initiation. I have been through psychosis and that experience was the most liberating thing that could ever happen to me. I would suggest reading "spiritually incorrect mystic" by Osho. He talks about his psychosis and how it lead to his enlightenment. Not saying that marijuana can lead to enlightenment, but it can allow people to realize their self which may cause their ego to go through meltdown. This is what I mean by psychosis.

http://www.draknet.com/proteus/emergence.htm

http://spiritualemergency.blogspot.com/200...o-collapse.html
Orbz
QUOTE(forgottenpresence @ Oct 19, 2007, 03:23 AM) *

Orbz, psychosis is a normal happening for those along the spiritual path. Many masters say it is an initiation. I have been through psychosis and that experience was the most liberating thing that could ever happen to me. I would suggest reading "spiritually incorrect mystic" by Osho. He talks about his psychosis and how it lead to his enlightenment. Not saying that marijuana can lead to enlightenment, but it can allow people to realize their self which may cause their ego to go through meltdown. This is what I mean by psychosis.

http://www.draknet.com/proteus/emergence.htm

http://spiritualemergency.blogspot.com/200...o-collapse.html

I've seen that kind of psychosis before in people, I don't think that there is much spiritual about it. It seems to happen to those people that aren't well grounded in reality. These people lose a lot of their social functioning, it is in fact, in a lot of ways, completely indistinguishable from the positive symptoms of schizophrenia.
I think if you follow Mantak Chia's stuff, there are methods that you can use so as not to go off the deep end and still achieve spiritual advancement.
Psychosis is not spirituality. Although spirituality can help people to deal with psychosis.

But, at the same time I can understand how psychosis could possibly lead to some spiritual realisation much in a similar way to how hallucinogens possibly could. Nothing like a shake up to reality to make you think differently about the world.

I'm ambivalent about it. I don't think its necessary and it could lead to lasting delusions, but not necessarily; and are you sure its not something else?
forgottenpresence
QUOTE(Orbz @ Oct 19, 2007, 04:13 AM) *

But, at the same time I can understand how psychosis could possibly lead to some spiritual realisation much in a similar way to how hallucinogens possibly could. Nothing like a shake up to reality to make you think differently about the world.

I'm ambivalent about it. I don't think its necessary and it could lead to lasting delusions, but not necessarily; and are you sure its not something else?


Yeah this is a different kind of psychosis I suppose, but the term has been used many times to describe this type of experience. When I went through this psychosis I was doing a lot of psychedelics, mainly mushrooms and occasionally lsd. I have also been meditating for 5 years so this definitely had something to do with it. I would meditate for hours then take a high dose of mushrooms and completely forget my past and become in tune with the moment and consciousness. Since I was doing this often, I started entering these moments of self-realization while sober during long meditation sessions. I changed into a completely different person, and it took me a long time to re-integrate that experience into my new self.

But all is clear now, more than it ever could be. After the cocoon is realized presence flowers into being and everything feels just good.
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