To whom it may concern,

If out of body people believe they are still having electrical thoughts, and now that we have companies like Cyberkinetics, who can communicate with electrical thoughts, why not make this possibility a reality?

Thank you,
Tim

what possibility?

L_D, I think he means to communicate with out of body people (as his post title indicates).

Of course, cyberkineticsinc have developed systems for direct neural sensing in the brain. If you're out of it, then ????

But, cyberkinetics.co.uk state ...

'Cyberkinetics regards the Human body as a Cybernetic bio-organism which is sustained at Molecular level by a Trinity of three forms of Energy generated from the interaction of Matter and Anti-matter to produce Light Energy, Dark Energy and the combination of Light and Dark Energy. Cyberkinetics uses the Trinity Concept in much of its protocol, having regard to the Universal Law of interdependency and interaction of three forms to create the whole, as in the case of muscle testing to assess the status of its Health and/or Homeostasis across the Sub-Physical, Physical and Meta-Physical levels of the Human Body using the Binary, Analogue and Molecular Systems of communication and control.'

... so they are just lunatics.

Which of these is referred to Tim?

Thank you Hey Hey,

I believe that BrainGate can be modified to work with OBE people, and future OBE afterlife people as well.

Thank you,
Tim

If you have time, check the web for all the articles under BrainGate.

Then feel free to ask me any questions you would like.

I am only as good a what I have to work with.

Thank you,
Tim

To whom it may concern,

Please fill free to let me know what you really think.

Do you believe OBE or NDE are just dreams?

Please feel free to commit good or bad,I am only as good as what I have to work with.

Thank you,
Tim

It all sounds ridiculous to me. Is there any empirical studies that have looked at these things that you know of, Tim4848?

What do you mean by out of body experiences? They 'see' themselves, for example, on an operating table or sleeping?

Good questions Icsglvr,

Why do you feel it is ridiculous?

I didn't know how to feel about mine, because I had never heard of it before I had mine.
They say now that 10% of people will have one at some point in there life.
Now they say that they need proof when you have one, but they don't really explain what type of proof they need.

I believe I could build a devise that could be used as proof, but that would be to easy.
I believe we need to attack this possibility from every side, teach people about this possibility on the front end before they might have one, I believe we need to compare this to other percentage defects. Example, when things happen in this world, we seam to notice. It might take us a while to notice that washing your hands cut down on a lot of problems, so it could be safe to say, that we could go a lot further into this topic.

Example, somebody mights say that it would be impossible for this to happen, I would have to say it would be easy, when you take in to effect that our mind is built off of energy, and science already knows that energy can not be made. That in it self, leaves it as a possibility.

We have experts in all fields, but when was the last time we ask a majority of these different people, questions about things that might help us with this theory?

Example:
If all of our cells in are body die after so many days while we are alive everyday, then why do we continue to have thought, that can remember the past, should it not die after so much time of cells dying, it can not because it is in electric, protected, as a energy that got developed in this body.

If one person can be tough with pain, then we all can be tough with pain, and that goes with any other emotion.

Your electrical thought is before any emotion, you can live in your electrical thought.

All electrical thought makes noice

We now can communicate with electrical thought.

Thank you for taking the time to read my mind dump.

Thank you,
Tim

We have neurogenesis or proliferation of new neurons occurring in our brain. As for how "memory" is transferred among these cells is not known; we do have cell assemblies (network of neurons) that work together in our brain to give us these memories. Memory in itself is not well known!


I still don't understand this phenomenon. Is this "seeing" yourself sleep, on an operating table, etc... ?

I don't think that the individual that is experiencing these out of body things would be able to collect evidence, but rather you would be relying on self-reports. How do we know people have not been obducted by aliens on the account of self-report? Because there is no empiracal evidence for aliens existing.

But, a quasi-experiment would need to be set up with the participants that they have, and run them through a whole battery of neuropsych. exams. Also, you may be able to get some sort of backing from EEG scans. The problem with this is, if these out of body experiences are uncontrollable to the participant, then how do we know when these occurrences are going to arise? Is there some way to induce these OBEs?

I believe we can induce anything it we focus on it.

Thank you,
Tim

We have no control coming into this world, and we probally won't have any when we leave, so the least we can do is try and find a better way of communicating in this field in the future.

Thank you for lisening to my thoughts, and if you can find the time, say something, just so you had some control in your life time.

Thank you,
Tim

Here is a list of some of the places this topic has been.

http://www.psitech.net/forums/

http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showforum=70

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com...p?showforum=10

http://www.gnosticweb.com/forums/

http://www.astralsociety.com/as/Foru...4348ca6a8 97&

http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showforum=11

http://www.nderf.org/

http://ghoststudy.com/

http://www.ghostpix.com/phpbb/index.php

http://grillflame.com/forums/index.p...b5fa29c2e031b8

Thank you,
Tim

Hmm, commincating with out of body people through electrical signals? I suppose one would need to deduce what an out of body person is made of. Or if they exist. Once you can confirm that, its rather simple, might be quite difficult to do, but simple none the less.

Good question Maximus 242,

I believe in this situation, we first need to have the tools ready, you would not brin your fishing pole fishing, just because you are not sure if there is fish biting toay or not.

Thank you,
Tim

To whom it may concern,

I have just contacted the James Randi Foundation about applying for the million dollar challenge. I am just waiting for them to contact me, so we can work out the details.

I am also taking names for anybody who would like to help me make this a reality.

Just send me a private e-mail, if you are interested.

I wonder who that person might be?

you can be a silent helper if that is what you prefer, then if you see it can happen, come out of the closet.

I plan on giving all the money to those who volunteer, by pro-rating their effort. We will get into the details later on that.

I love it when a plan comes together

Thank you,
Tim

To whom it may concern,

Do you think I should get a web site for this topic?


http://www.informe.com/?view=Registration&zz=1

thank you,
Tim

Tim, this is all wishful thinking. If you really care about it, turn your attention to neuroscience and you might learn how to make it a reality.

Tim Brewer,

Hi, and thanks for your interest in the James Randi Educational Foundation's Million Dollar Challenge!

Can you be anymore specific? Would it definitely be proof of the afterlife, or could it be construed as something else? For instance, having disembodied voices on tape could be proof of the afterlife or proof that there are talking fairies or a recording error.

Would it be very clear what it was?

Thanks again,

JREF Challenge Desk

Dear Alison Smith,
This e-mail is in reference to the offer made by the foundation (JREF) concerning psychic, supernatural or paranormal claims.
I just wanted to touch base with you on parts of the challenge that might delay my claim.
My claim will vary greatly in character and scope, so do I fill out the application now, or wait until we work that part out?
My only media presence about topic at this time, is on different Internet forums.
Totaling 690 mixed replies, resulting in 13,518 views.
My topic name on these different forums is called
“The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities.”
Please fill free to check them out, before we move forward with my claim.

Thank you,
Tim

Experiment for the challenge:

Regardless if they allow me or anybody else to try this challenge, this was the challenge I was going to try, and if you are interested in trying it as well, please fill free to read on.

You will need An Electronic Sensors lab kit from Radio Shack
The one I got is called Electronic Sensors Lab, and it was less than $60.00 dollars a couple of years ago. Make sure your kit has a touch sensor, and a green led light that come with it.

The workbook that I got with my kit was written By Forrest M. Mims III,
Here is a note in that workbook from him:

“You are about to enter the world of electronic sensors. It’s a fascinating place where you will experiment with electronic devices that respond to touch, pressure, magnetism, light, temperature, and rotation. When you build and experiment with the projects in the lab kit, you will have fun while learning how electronic circuits respond to the world around them. I hope you enjoy experimenting with these projects as much as I did designing them.”

After getting the kit, build the project that allows a green led flasher to responds to any type of contact with the touch sensor. Please do not touch the sensor at anytime with human skin, this could cause a micro experiment and not an afterlife one. The only exception to that would be if you are having no luck with afterlife communication, and you decide to try for micro communication, if that is the case, you are looking at a different challenge.

We are looking for advance thinking and action driven potential electrical thought out of body afterlife people that might be hanging out around you at any given time.

When I had my OBE, I could not hear and as far as I was aware, there was nobody trying to communicate with me in this way, so we have to expect this will be the case in this experiment as well.

The best way to do this that I have found, is posting signs that can be read from anybody, even people who can not see real good up close. I would suggest using a big screen TV as a monitor for your computer, and be willing to have your message for this experiment on there as much as possible. This message will read somewhat like a newspaper adds at first.

Have somebody view your monitor, and see if they can make heads or tells on what are trying to say, and what you want them to do. If your friend cannot follow your instructions, then don’t expect anybody else to be able to do it as well.

Now that you have your Radio Shack Electronic Sensors lab kit all set up correctly, your next goal is to get the word out to all afterlife that comes in contact with you over a curtain time frame, I would give that time frame about ninety days. My first contact with afterlife took twenty days.
Your communication to the afterlife should be so simple that a Geico cave man would be able to do it. We spend years trying to dig up old fragile stuff from the past; so I believe the least we can do is give this possibility the same respect and time it needs.

Just get the light to come on at anytime during the day at first, then build off of that. Make sure you are always thanking the afterlife person, they only know how things are going, by telling them how things are going with the experiment. If you are not good at listening to other people’s emotional needs, or people skils in general, then this experiment might not be right for you.
Hopefully you will be happy with your results, and it will help bring more attention to future positive afterlife possibilities.

Quick review:
Buy the touch sensitive kit from Radio Shack
Put it together correctly
Have a big screen monitor that can post big screen messages to people that cannot hear or might not be able to read small print.
You will be trying to a track educated out of body afterlife people that might come in contact with your monitor message.
Your messages will explain what you are trying to accomplish, and what you need them to do, if they are interested in doing it.
In form them in writing what you want them to do, and then see if they have the ability to do that, by measuring results on your kit.

I take it you have performed this experiment and have had some otherwise-unexplained pressings of the sensor? Do you have data (circuit closings as a function of time, for example)?

Good question Rick, some of my reply got cut off.


Experiment for the challenge:

Regardless if they allow me or anybody else to try this challenge, this was the challenge I was going to try, and if you are interested in trying it as well, please fill free to read on.

You will need An Electronic Sensors lab kit from Radio Shack
The one I got is called Electronic Sensors Lab, and it was less than $60.00 dollars a couple of years ago. Make sure your kit has a touch sensor, and a green led light that come with it.

The workbook that I got with my kit was written By Forrest M. Mims III,
Here is a note in that workbook from him:

“You are about to enter the world of electronic sensors. It’s a fascinating place where you will experiment with electronic devices that respond to touch, pressure, magnetism, light, temperature, and rotation. When you build and experiment with the projects in the lab kit, you will have fun while learning how electronic circuits respond to the world around them. I hope you enjoy experimenting with these projects as much as I did designing them.”

After getting the kit, build the project that allows a green led flasher to responds to any type of contact with the touch sensor. Please do not touch the sensor at anytime with human skin, this could cause a micro experiment and not an afterlife one. The only exception to that would be if you are having no luck with afterlife communication, and you decide to try for micro communication, if that is the case, you are looking at a different challenge.

We are looking for advance thinking and action driven potential electrical thought out of body afterlife people that might be hanging out around you at any given time.

When I had my OBE, I could not hear and as far as I was aware, there was nobody trying to communicate with me in this way, so we have to expect this will be the case in this experiment as well.

The best way to do this that I have found, is posting signs that can be read from anybody, even people who can not see real good up close. I would suggest using a big screen TV as a monitor for your computer, and be willing to have your message for this experiment on there as much as possible. This message will read somewhat like a newspaper adds at first.

Have somebody view your monitor, and see if they can make heads or tells on what are trying to say, and what you want them to do. If your friend cannot follow your instructions, then don’t expect anybody else to be able to do it as well.

Now that you have your Radio Shack Electronic Sensors lab kit all set up correctly, your next goal is to get the word out to all afterlife that comes in contact with you over a curtain time frame, I would give that time frame about ninety days. My first contact with afterlife took twenty days.
Your communication to the afterlife should be so simple that a Geico cave man would be able to do it. We spend years trying to dig up old fragile stuff from the past; so I believe the least we can do is give this possibility the same respect and time it needs.

Just get the light to come on at anytime during the day at first, then build off of that. Make sure you are always thanking the afterlife person, they only know how things are going, by telling them how things are going with the experiment. If you are not good at listening to other people’s emotional needs, or people skils in general, then this experiment might not be right for you.
Hopefully you will be happy with your results, and it will help bring more attention to future positive afterlife possibilities.

Quick review:
Buy the touch sensitive kit from Radio Shack
Put it together correctly
Have a big screen monitor that can post big screen messages to people that cannot hear or might not be able to read small print.
You will be trying to a track educated out of body afterlife people that might come in contact with your monitor message.
Your messages will explain what you are trying to accomplish, and what you need them to do, if they are interested in doing it.
In form them in writing what you want them to do, and then see if they have the ability to do that, by measuring results on your kit.

A standard experiment for the challenge:
Getting a light to come on this devise, with no help from an object that you are aware of
Getting the light to come on during an agreed planned hour.
Getting the light to flicker at different sequence times within that hour.
Getting the light to stop coming on after that hour

Example; Getting it to light up every twelve seconds, then getting it to change that sequence to five seconds one time, then back to the twelve seconds cycle again. I believe just getting it to come on and end during this agreed time frame is good enough, but to change the sequence of the response, should be enough proof, that you are seriously interacting with something that has the ability to be educated in some manner.
If you got the and patience to teach them how to do the Morse code, then by all means, take the time to do that, but my goal is we use other things like Brain Gate, for that type of communication.

I hope you have as much success with this kit as I have, but if that does not turn out to be the case, then I am truly sorry for wasting your time.

Thank you,
Tim

This is a far cry from a double blind lab experiment, there are far to many variables you have not considered. You need to undergo completely scientific conditions with measured and tested results. The James Randi Foundation would throw that claim out because the results could be interpreted as many diffrent things. You dont just need proof, you need a plethora of proof, you need such a rediculous amount of proof that no sane person would doubt you.

If the phenomenon exists and is repeatable, then many people could duplicate the result (under well-controlled conditions, of course), and doubt would then be (reasonably) impossible.

So far, no credible experiment has been successful (or the skeptics would have been paying out bundles of money).

Tim Brewer,

Thank you for your interest in the James Randi Educational Foundation's Million Dollar Challenge!

I'm afraid that forums do not qualify as a media presence, and I suggest that you contact your local newspaper or television news network to request an interview of some kind. Only just a couple of nights ago, there was a man on the news here who could hula hoop underwater, and I'm quite sure that psychic abilities would be even more interesting to the media than that.

When you have established a media presence of some kind and fulfilled the other qualifications on the JREF's web site here: http://www.randi.org/research/ you will include the workable protocol in addition to the SASE and notarized application form.

I hope this is helpful, and let me know if you need any more information regarding the Challenge!

Sincerely,

JREF Challenge Desk

I think the most impressive thing is that no one has ever made it past the preliminary rounds.

Why don't we try the test right here?

I could get my big screen TV fixed, you could help me find a good deal on an eye camera for my computer. I will buy a battery for the device, blo some dust off of it. Start printing spam to all afterlife that might come in contact with my monitor, then see if the light comes on, off a sensor that is designed to be touched.

If it works for me again, then I mail the devise to the next person, and then they have to try it. This ould be good practice for the aftelife person as well, because they would have to do this, if the were still in the real challenge. We could repeat this process over and over until the other process falls into place.

My inner thoughts have kept me out of pain and into pleasure as long as I can remember, and they seam to believe this is possible.

Try this experiment every day until it works. Right before you go to sleep, ask your inner thoughts this question, do they believe it is possible, then try and remeber to ask your inner thoughts first thing in the morning, what it answer is.
I would be interested in what reply you would get.

Thank you for listening to my natural thoughts,

Tim

Trying the experiment everyday until it works in your living room is not proof of communication with the dead. You have to show results that are consistent, not ones that occur at random. I do encourage you to try it though, if you can get consistent results then you are one step closer to having a scientific test

I like the experiment because it's potentially controllable. It's a good exercise in design of experiments. One question I have is exactly how the sensor works. How much pressure is required to activate it? Could the very light touch required do something else such as draw on a dusty chalkboard? How about drawing on the steamy glass of a bathroom mirror after a shower? If so, why don't we all see messages from the dead all the time?

Good question Rick and maximus 242,

I do not know how much preasure is required, at least in a way that can be measured, and I do know the kit does have another experiment that does have to do with light, but this experiment does not have anything to do with light. From what I understand, at least two parts of the sensor must be touched to make it work, and the face of the sensor is about the size of a nickel.

I once did take the device on a field trip once, and after taking it outside, and then back inside, it did act as though moisture did effect it.
The light just kept flashing, so I turned it off for about a day, then it was acting normal again.

Thank you for your interest,
Tim



Thank you,
Tim

I think a custom aparatus would be required for a such a experiment. Theoretically I would assume your touch sensor works by having a current through it and when the sensor is pressed, the current is able to flow to the LED and turn it on. This therefore would work like a simple switch mechanism, since only a faction of a second is required to send enough electricity to an LED, it would be fairly simple to build.

You would need, a battery compatment, battery, wire, press down switch and a LED. Quite simple really, you could go more complicated and use computers or embeded chips - which isnt as complicated as it sounds. But I dont think its really nessecary.

The problem is that this experiment could be construed as something else so it would need to be in test lab conditions.

Dear Maximus 242, that sounds like what I already have.

Electric interacting with electric, just like the electric glass ball I got from Spenser gifts, because on the surface, watching the electric show in side the ball is neat to watch, just loke when you stick your finger on the ball, and watching all the electric go to your finger, but staying inside the ball, the only thing you feel is the heat of the glass, while all this electric is consentrated to one area. It looks safe for the most part, but try putting a copper wire around that glass ball, then the electric goes throughthe glass and you get shocked.

Electric is all around us, and it is energy that can not be destroyed according to scientist, regardless if it is lighting or the smaalest form of static electricity, but when this electic behaves like it did when Einstein observed it, then you start to wonder about other options, like maybe God is not playing dice, but possibly afterlife being afterlife.

I do not care what type of device you use, just as long as this potential enity, is allowed to express it self with energy.

Thank you,
Tim

To whom it may concern,

Someone please explain this one to me.

http://www.thepsychictimes.com/articles/atwater.htm

Thank you,

Tim

To whom it might concern, I went back and read some of the stuff again at

http://www.mkaku.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1076

These guys wrote some really good stuff!


Thank you,

Tim

----- Original Message -----From: Jeff Wagg, James Randi Educational Foundation
To: Tim Brewer ; Alison Smith
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Communications


I don't know what "advance thinking and action driven electrical thought out of body afterlife people" is or are.

Are you saying you can make the contact buzzer work without touching it?

Jeff Wagg
JREF

On 5/20/07, Tim Brewer <tbrewer003@woh.rr.com> wrote:Dear Jeff Wagg,
 It is not a buzzer, but a light that comes on, and that is only because I have only tried it with a light, but I suppose you could set it up to be used with a buzzer as well, and yes, I have had it work before, I just didn't think you were concerned about past events with my experiments, so I tried not to bring that up.Science base their input in the fact that energy can not be made, destroyed, it can only change form, so with that being the case. I want to prove that humans after they die, do have the ability to contact us through devises like this, but it can only work if we can educate them first on this possibility. I once watched  one of your challenges were a man tried to prove that he could alter a compass with thought alone, I would like to think my challenge is better, just because it is based on the fact that I do not even have to be anywhere near the machine when it works the way I say it will work. I would like the opportunity to have a monitor near by, only as a way to continue to send messages to the afterlife, as instructional information only.  
Please feel free to ask more questions if you would like. Thank you,Tim 
I'm not accepting anything, I just wanted to be clear on what your claim was. You may apply now, and if you meet the criteria, your claim will be accepted.

Jeff Wagg
JREF
Thank you Jeff Wagg, I appreciate your help in this matter, and now I will start getting things in order to be in a position to meet the criteria, and the challenge as well. Thank you,Tim

The James Randi institute is bunk. They are the most negative people you will ever meet. You could have someone move the compass with their mind and they would not accept it.

They set up the tests in an unfair way. In the cases in which they offer a prize for doing something they have all sorts of tricks up their sleeves. The first test is done publicly with witnesses under their control and conditions. If someone passes that, they get nothing, they get the chance to do it again in private with no witnesses. A neat little trick to make sure they never have to pay off.

They have their minds made up in a negative way and are not open to anything new. They are dedicated to broadcasting their opinions.

Thank you Xanadu for the input.

I better get me another device just in case mine has a short in it.

Thank you,
Tim

To whom it may concern,
Just to make sure I am on the right page with the rest of you.

Please answer these two questions for me;

1) why do you feel it is not possible?

2) If it was possible to communicate with future afterlife out of body people, would you want it to happen or not, and why?


Thank you,
Tim

This topic should be moved to spirituality/religion please.

1. Every attempt to prove the existence of an afterlife has failed. Harry Houdini at first believed it was possible to contact spirits of the dead, but was able to debunk every medium he could find. That tradition continues with The Amazing Randi et al. Therefore, I beleive such contact is not possible because there is no such thing as an afterlife.

2. If there were an afterlife, then by all means, communicate with them. Anything we can learn will be beneficial to the living. It would also put an end to debate on the topic.

Hello, my name is Tim, and thank you for taking an interest in this topic up to this point so far. I hope you find these new thoughts just as interesting. For some other people just want to argue about the possibility, I did set up a topic on one site called The Department of Negative Possibilities, so feel free to go their if you like as well.

What you are about to read is nothing more than directional fantasy, to possibly help jump start this topic's positive possibilities and nothing more.

Just something to think about, talk about, as we think through things that happen through out our lives. If for any reason this topic might make sense to you at any point during that time, please fill free to update your OBE level status on this site, and I will talk more about the different levels of OBE's later, at least one quick way we should think about them anyway.

I am sorry that nobody through out history, or even after 2005. I believe that was a very important year, with the emerge of Brain Gate. I am surprise others don't see the connection to this machine as I do; the simple connection of machines and afterlife thought, as a tool to advance this topic even further. I guess it is hard to move something further, when it was not even moving to begin with. A tool that can be modified to what ever possibility we see that needs to be done in this field, because that is exactly what this field is, a wide open field to anybody with an imagination. Just as much as you have the ability to create something worthwhile in this field, so too does that show you that scientist can not say for sure it can't be done, because they have not studied this field half as good as all of us can do, because it is in the numbers, just like we went with this one oil to run a car, when with a little more effort, we even found other fuels that could do the job just as well.. I am not afraid to talk to anyone about this field, because I know just from the short time I have been in it, there is so much more work need done in this field.

If you pay close attention, you will notice the closer we get to making this a reality, the louder some people will be about not wanting it to happen. All I ask, is that you keep an open mind when this occurs. Don't be fooled by what they will say to try and scare you, but what they are not saying, the real reason they don't want it to happen. This will be a clear smoke screen to what there main agenda is all about, and we will discuss that later on, if that worst scenario keeps presenting itself.

Others will try and blow it off as I am some kind of ex-Woodstock religious freak on drugs who thinks he is Einstein, when I am nothing more than a messenger who wants to tell different people's these thoughts, just in case it turns out, that it is really possible..

Through out history people have been able to accomplish things, regardless of different obstacles, and this topic should be the same as well. I believe the out come of this topic will be no different. Measuring it the right way, as Edison would, trying everything, until we find the right thing. Edison achievement was putting all the right pieces of the puzzle all in one place, so the positive result could show itself, and that is what I am asking in this topic as well.

One of the advantage of this topic is the Murphy law effect. This topic opportunities could change at any second of the day, depending on so many different factors.

Example: Imagine scientist do not want to try my theory because they don't buy into it, but five minutes from now, somebody like Oprah, has an OBE; a level five like I had, and is so taken in by the experience, that she decides to check it out on the Internet and comes across my topic on one of the forum boards like the Near Death Experience ones ; not only does she believe in it as me now because of her new experience, but she is also amazed that she has been written in to the solution as well; as one of the possible positive scenario's as I am laying out to you right now. She sees what I want her to do, and maybe she will actually do it, or at least put me in a position to talk face to face with people in that field that can set me straight on the possibilities. She might decide to buy one of the machines and teach people in one of her schools on how to make it happen.

Now the chances of something like this happening is probably one percent of the ten percent of people expected to have this experienced at some point in their life. and this percentage could go up, depending on other factors as well, and we have the Internet to thank for that. because this topic is in a position to be seen by anybody who wants to find it. Yes this one positive possibility that just might happen, another might be that she gets wind of this topic by somebody who is reading it now, gets a chance to meet her, gives here the topic to explore one day, and she actually does. then a lot of the thanks would go to the person who told her about it. I believed that scenario would only work if she really did have a Level five OBE, since then she might be in the right mind set to take it under consideration. This is what would be considered a pre-meditated possibility, based on luck and so many other variables, but it certainly could cause positive results.

I believe if we look at different percentages of Murphy law, this is where we are at:

If five percent of people who have level five OBE's, decide to search more about this experiences on the internet, and at least three percent of them come across my topic, and at least one percent of them are in a position to make it possible, either through private money, or Government money, then this possibility could happen regardless of explaining anything more about it at this time.

In other words, I do not have to prove anything, I just have to have this thought in a position to be seen by others, who can make it happen by either their wealth, media presents, or ability to make it happen. So what we really should be doing is finding those people now that can do this and start to wait for them to have this experience, so they can make it happen.

Will it be Oprah, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, Michel Fox, the Pope, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Tom Cruise, or maybe somebody else like you!

Time will tell

What you might ask these people now is this question

"If it did happen to you, and you honestly believed it was real as Tim does, do you know how to find this topic?

Ask them what level are they now, and if they would public-ally announce if that status ever chances.

I do not think that is a bad question to ask anyone, and it really is kind of fun, if you think about it. It's one of your status points in life.

Example:

I have a driver license

I wear glasses

I'm a 2OBE, use to be a 1OBE

This could start being added to people's info on their "My Space" for example. You could wear different color plastic wrist bracelets. It would consist of six different colors.

Before long, people will want to make sure we are doing everything we can to make sure we have the best communication in place for every Level OBE out there.

I once joined the ROTC in school because they promised to let us go up in a plane during the school year, and I would not be apposed to going to some school and getting more training in this area as well, especially if they promised me training on Brain Gate as well in this field of positive possibilities. Maybe our great country would help with government grants in this field, since they say they don't want to leave any of us behind.

I believe this is as much possible, as a policeman on a motor cycle, writing a seat belt ticket to somebody in a big yellow Hummer.

If the government is so concerned about keeping us alive now, with the intent to get your tax dollar longer; just think of all the money they could make if they could measure us in the afterlife world.

I know it might be hard for level 1OBE to understand all this because they can not see it now, like they can see a Wal-Mart being built; but just keep in mind their is a lot of other things that you can not see as well, but they are out there.

Some people believe afterlife can talk, and they believe that EVP will do that for them, I for one do not from my own experiences from having an OBE.

I believe that OBE's ,are clues to afterlife OBE's; because I feel they are early returns from death, and you can see that from their vital signs at the time and how long they had the unexpected experienced as well.

What I recommend we do to make this communication a reality is no different than other things we have tried in the past with other experiments in other fields, like the light bulb.

Do you think every experiment NASA has tried in outer space has always been a success, or that they were able to measure it correctly before they were able to take the experiment to outer space, I would have to say no, but on the same hand, experiments that they thought might work one way, probably turned out to work totally different than they expected early on, and then they just adjusted their approach for future experiments, you can also see that in just different things they have done over the years just to make it safer, but even with all that said, they still know it is risk, but at this time, they still feel it is worth taking..

Example: They say that an atom in a lot of ways is like it's own little solar system, and that it shares it's space with other atoms making it a very crowded little universe. So small, but yet so far away, and if that is our worst scenario, then we cannot expect them to communicate any better than we could expect from our self's.

If you don't believe me, just go out side and yell at outer space, and see if they can hear you down here, probably the best you can expect, is that your niebor will call the police, for disturbing the piece.

Now on the other hand, if everybody on earth would be quiet for a few seconds, and the people on the space shuttle had the correct equipment, maybe they could hear you, but your chances of making that happening would probably be harder than actually communicating with afterlife, so in one way that is a good thing.

Imagine you have been trained on Brain Gate, you are connected to Brain Gate right now, and we wanted you to do something in the space shuttle in outer space

right now, how could we do that?

It all comes down to what other people want to do, and they are in a position to do it.

A sign of how far the science of neuroprosthetics has come is that most of these difficulties are now engineering challenges, rather than problems of principle. In applauding this valuable work, it is worth noting that it was made possible by two of the bêtes noires of modern biology: commercial interests and animal research.

How can we do this, how can we do that, and what if we looked at it this way or that way, and what if we took this and put it with that before we do this again and so on. I could list all type of things we have not done, just to hear from other people on what proof do I have?

Because I believe it to be, and it is natural to science laws.

Because my out of body experience to me was not a dream and it came to me when I had no reason to want it to be real. For some reason the government did not want me to be left behind in school to a point, so I knew the importance of history, that better things can be learned from other people mistakes.

Imagine for a moment that there is only one person on earth, and this person can not talk or hear, even though once they did. On the other hand, you are in an orbit outside of earth and you need to communicate with that person, and one of the tools you have available with you in outer space is a Brain Gate machine, what might be your best way of using it with that person back on Earth. the first thing you must do is let them know what your intentions are and then the best way to do that problem, is post signs in outer space, that can be seen on earth, the next thing you must do is listen for vibrations, so you might need to magnify your efforts for that signal, while trying to drown out any other wasted noise, and this is where it gets harder, because there is not only one person on earth, as there is not only one afterlife in space, and unfortunately they all make vibrations.

Think about this for a moment, I believe every afterlife takes up space, just like you do, and how many that is, can only be a guess. If it is an animal, human, or anything else with energy thought, then you add in how many years they have been around, how many different strange movement of atoms in a curtain amount of space, then multiply that by all atom space, and that should at least give you a good honest number for now; and I would have to think that would be about one percent of all atoms. Now you might think that is a lot, but it really is not, when scientist believe only three percent of space is filled with atoms to begin with.

I once heard we sent signals into outer space, hoping that somebody else might hear them, and on the surface that sounds find, but once again it somebody like Einstein is floating out in outer space in his afterlife, he could not hear this message, because once again, he can not hear in his new handicap position..

I do not believe we need to reinvent the wheel, but we do need to put the wheel in the best position for success. We need to paint better pictures to afterlife, and we might need to put Brain Gate in the best position for success.

Hear me out on this thought. Lets train future patients of Brain Gate for the worst scenario on this topic, and build off of that, just like we do in other area's of life.

We need the best one on one situation that can be done, and that place might be in a pocket in space where dark energy is at. A place where one potential afterlife atom might need to go, to get away from all the white noise of all other afterlife here on Earth.

A place that is vast with nothing, but one atom and one Brain Gate machine, one on one like I was saying..

Think of afterlife as a stadium of noisy people, all trying to be heard for now, and you are trying to communicate with a Brain Gate machine at the same time; sounds impossible, but what if you could float away from this environment and find a quiet place in outer space, that has been selected just for you, with all the bells and whistles. A place where you might be heard; then your chances for success might be much greater.

So what we will need is a satellite, that will be prepared to take a modified Brain Gate machine and other potential afterlife energies up in outer space, to explore this possibility, and then fly to a dark energy place in space and see what happens.

This theory in my opinion could be done, and it would also cover some of the worst scenario for getting it done. Scientist have already shown that some things seam to work better in outer space, so do you think they have ever tried this one before, I didn't think so either. This would also cover situations, where some people think once you are cut off from your old body, you take off toward outer space anyway.

A lot of people believe in the real world that most things can be measured, but in the afterlife, they are happy with the possibility that they go to a place that can't be measured, and I do not agree with that.

A lot of people do not like to talk about anything to do with human death, because they associate it with pain, and your thoughts are always programmed to take you out of pain and into pleasure.



This is so far my Rating system for out of body afterlife

Level Zero: It has never happened to you, and you find it hard to believe it could happen to anybody else as well.

Level One: You had a dream or dreams of having an OBE's, at least it gives you something to talk about on this topic.

Level Two: You trained yourself to have one, the number does not matter, and it is all based on the fact that you wanted it to happen, and your thoughts did everything it could to make it as close as the real thing as you wanted to comprehend of it.

Level Three: You had one, but you experienced it through your right brain, because your left brain thoughts could not comprehend the experience, so your right side thoughts entertained you in limbo, supplying you only with what thoughts it feels you could handle at the time

Level Four: an OBE's that has some right brain activity, during some parts of the experience, but also some left brain activity at times as well; helping to keep you a little more level to the experience as well, but still sounding a little over the top when trying to explain it to others, even though they could see that you were showing signs of being dead at the time, and any machines connected at the time was proving it as well. Some machines were showing you as brain dead.

Level Five: Your body signs are showing you dead, you wake up by the ceiling and remain a wake through the rest of the process, you are in total control of your thoughts, and you can remember re-entering back into your body, by steps you did to make that a possibility.

Level Six: Out of body afterlife = still waiting for the correct communication devises to be in place for this one.

So if you are a level Zero, you do have a lot of options, but just remember what came around to us, might be coming to you later today. As far as I am aware right now, there is no proof all people that have an OBE, are nuts and have some kind of drug problem. If that was the case, people like Winston Churchill would never have got elected to his position in power. Just because you have never experienced it yet, or if you ever do, does not mean you should be ignorant to the possibility, just in case their is a possibility.

My thoughts tell me that one day in the near future, somebody like Oprah, Donald Trump, or even Tom Cruise will have a level five experience, then they will research the topic on the Internet, come across this topic, and then they will use their abilities, from their position, to supply the tools and support that will be needed to advance research in this field, so we can find out once and for all if it can be a reality. Now will they type into their computer the name of my topic and find it, probably not, but hopefully they might go to one of there forums and see it there. That is one of the advantages of a bulletin boards. Unlike the fact, that George Washington might of slept here or there, no one really knows, because there is no proof, but if your topic is still present, when big wheels come around, it's chances of being seen become so much greater. Depending on that big wheels ability to turn thought into action.

Some people ask me to explain how Brain Gate is going to make this happen, and we both would be kidding our self's, since I have never been any closer to that machine than you, but something inside me tells me that I should at least be given a chance to at least go to one on a field trip, just to interact with them and see what comes out of that. I believe everybody should be given one opportunity every year to do this until we die, or science prove it can't be done first in a way that can be measured. Why should I be allowed to do this? Because they might explain to me why it can't work, then I will be glad to report those findings, or they might give me challenges to over come, and then I will have a natural year to slice up those challenges, post them on this site as you can do as well, until all those challenges are gone.

I would like to find some place that could take all of my papers on this topic, and come up with some way of filing it for anybody to read for years to come, if they choose to do that. maybe what we need now is The Department of Positive out of Body possibility Museum topic, because at some point in history, people are going to want to know where we are at on this topic.

I understand if you are a level Zero, and that all of this sounds so impossible to comprehend and it might sound like right brain thinking, but just like anything else in life, you have to start somewhere; and it is always awkward at first, regardless of what ever it might be. Learning to crawl, or ride a bike, is always strange at first, but over time it gets easier, like other new things we learn everyday. Focus new change has always been a part of our life's anyway.

But as your number goes up as you move up in number to what piece you are, Some people for example that might be a seven in management, does not want fives, to become eights, because they feel threatened about their position, and probably income situations, that might be the case, but I always welcomed any number above me, because I honestly believed I just made us better as a team. I always tries to get ones to threes and so on, and maybe they could not become a three at this time, but they are ready to begin to be two's anyway.



I do not like to criticize, condemn or complain about anybody until they can not communicate anymore, so I guess I want to prove once and for before I die, one way or the other, if this is possible or not.

So maybe I am crazy for the fact hat I could be doing all type of other things than what I am doing now. All I can say about that is this. I understand the importance of being three dimensional in most areas of life, and I also understand what it is like to tune a curtain station on the radio.

I have the experience of having a level five OBE

I make a constant effort everyday, to try and see this topic from all angles as possible, while still keeping in mind that might not be possible.

I believe I am honest, reliable, creative, willing to listen, willing to learn, the ability not to cave in to unfounded citizen, based on their opinion that I am the sole provider for having to prove right now, how this can be a reality or not.

I understand if you are a level Zero, that this seams impossible, and since you are not vested in this as I or maybe other level fives, that the best we should do is come to terms with the way you are thinking, and maybe in time that will be the case, or others who might believe or hope as I do, but really don't think it can happen.

On that level, maybe it is good for all interested parties involved that my possibility should be a Yard stick for all false realities, and it must be measured only in our hearts because such a reality in it self might sound to hard to comprehend, for those all I can say, is it will be one person at a time, and all that will come down to timing. I assume that most people would not want to train for something until they see it work first, and I do not have a problem with that, as long as we put our selves in a position to have it work first.

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This modified Brain Gate machine needs some hits in a way that it was never made to do before, but the bottom line is, it needs some tries.

I feel the more I try and explain this topic the better I get, and hopefully the better you get as well, and I believe with every potential hit the machine might receive in the future after the machine is modified, the interchange we have for success.

I would rather list all the different things we tried, so other people can read that , and then hopefully somebody will read it and see what other steps to the puzzle is out there.

like to relationship then keep believing what you are believing for now, and maybe you will always by all means do not believe it is possible, with out proof six proof.

There is a movement that is going on all over the world about this topic. People just like you, who have experienced a level five OBE, are coming to sites like this one, are getting important information about this topic.

Even though some people might miss-lead you hat this topic is as dead as the music in the song American Pie, you now know different, this possibility will be possible as soon as Murphy law shoots an electric arrow into the right person.

Through out life, different people have been influenced by these thoughts, but they were never in a position like you to make it a realty, so that is the question you must always ask yourself at different times in your life. Are you in a position to make it a reality? If the answer is yes, what is sopping you. If your answer is any of these, I have different comments for them, then it is your choice if you want to do it or not.

I'm scared - A great President once said, we have nothing to fear but fear itself

what would my friends say? Well, if you make it a reality, you can talk to your friends about it then.

Can I take my money with me, by putting in my will that I want to keep my money in a Pay pal account, in case they make it a reality in the future? - I personally do not see a problem in that, as long as a percentage was used every year for more research in that area. It would kind of like donating it to a cause, that might pay back big dividends in the event you are reached at a later date. the whole time your money is put into accounts that is growing in interest every year, unless science at some point can prove it is not possible, then you go to the next line in your will and you put it somewhere else.

Why don't the Government just work hard on making this a reality on there own? - Maybe they would, if they were not so busy giving amnesty consideration to all the criminals that are inside our borders. then when we do catch the million or so bad ones in the bunch, then we can us our tax dollars to keep them locked up for years to come.

You will never have a effect on this topic, until you have a cause, and that is what I am trying to explain, to the best of my ability today.

If you got to go o something else, please fill free to do that, but please find the time to help by keeping thoughts like these alive.

I believe one of the reasons this has not become a reality yet. is based on so many factors, but I also believe it is possible based on so many factors.

Some people would lead you to believe, that it is a waste of time to discuss this or anything else, because everything that can be said, has been said, or that everything that can be discovered has been discovered about this topic, so don't waste your time, and you will be considered a nut if you do.

Think for a second as though this topic is a song, some people might not like it, and that is fine, all I have to do is leave it playing for a while and see if some body might come along and listen to it as well, and decide to build a new machine to play it on.

This has already has happened in our past. Thanks to advancement in machines. They can take old tapes and albums of people like Hank Williams, Elvis Presley, and so on, and recreate their music in all type of formats for years to come.

Now some might say that everything that can be said, has already been said before. Now I don't know if that is true or not. I do know at this time, that my topic on the Internet, is the only one posted like it anywhere.

Is this topic truly just a simple twist of fate, only time will tell and it isn't talking at this time , as far as anybody can truly understand.

I will not lie, there are times in my life that I believe in happy endings, and I believe my topic is the closest thing I know to such a reality.

I am banking my topic on the possibility of somebody in an important position, such like in the media profession on having an OBE as well at some point, and the experience makes them want to explore the Internet for other experiences as theirs and they come across this topic, and depending on their influence, or financial backing, they take

Maybe they have access to machines like Brain Gate, because they had come down in price, or they are cheaper than gas at the time, what ever the reason, but they get the word out, they have the ability to sway people's behaviors. or they just like the idea of taking their money with hem and sees this as a good opportunity to do that, because nobody wants to be communicating in the afterlife, with out money. Research can only take you so far, at some point, the general public, private sector, or afterlife sector will have to help split the bill.

Some people worry about the thing called the world order, I believe it is to early to rule out that possibility, for all type of reasons. I believe the world order will perform at higher standards than anything you can imagine now.

Some people worry about Big Brother watching us, and then complains when they have to wait for other government programs as well. If having one all Big Brother, who is devoted to making my life easier, sounds a lot better than, what we have now, where different brothers are fighting and dying all over the world.

Have I finally planted the seed tactually created something,

that is bigger than life as we know it, only time will tell.

is it something all together different , or how things truly come around and go around, when it concerns The Sting Theory when it ran into The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities.

I am quite aware that different people have different opinions about this topic, and some do not even like talking about it at al, unless scientific prove is given up front, before any type of testing can be explored, but I also believe after reading other people positive replies, that there might be other ways of making this a reality, and that is luck.

Let me give you an example. Let's say that somebody in a very powerful position has an OBE at some point in their life, and they might have the ability to make this a reality as well. Maybe somebody who is so powerful in the media present, that they can build schools, provide equipment, build wings to hospitals, or even builds colleges as well.

but if I remember right, they are a lot like me. If I yawn they yawn, we both put on our shoes on at a time, and we both could have an OBE. Now when I had mine, back in the late seventy, early eighties, you did not hear anything about it, and you surely did not have the internet, but now, if you had one today, you can jump on the Internet, and you might come across my topic, and if that is the case, I would like to think I am providing a service, especially if this scenario might happen.

What you are about to read is nothing more than fantasy at this time.

The year is 3535

Hello, my name is John Doe and I am eighty years old in human life, but now I am an out of body afterlife person with no password to prove who I am. Nobody ever thought of giving you a password for my type of situation when I was alive because, it just wasn't something you talked about when I was alive, People were too scared to talk about dying, and that type of thinking at that time was just too far over the top.

I guess the biggest break through in this field came shortly after Oprah had her OBE's herself, and she decided to provide research in that field and made it a reality. None of this would not of happened if she did not have here experience, and some guy by the name of Tim, hadn't put this topic in a position to be read by her.

Tim realized that you can't make anything a reality if you don't believe in it first, and then have the ability to make it a reality second. Tim realized that he was average, but he also knew other people will have this experience, and they might be above average, and if they could work together, the chances of this working would be no different than Bernie Toblin and Elton John working together, with the goal of making music..

Tim believed that Afterlife are doing quite fine, but they are handicapped, and need to be treated as though, instead of being ignored by all type of false belief's that give the impression to people that it can't be possible, when in fact, it has never really been studied correctly, since Thomas Edison studied it years earlier.

Now on the other hand, I have this friend name Jane Doe who has had a password for quite some time, because she had the insight to make it a reality, following her unique experiences through out life. She was already handicapped, and her mother had an OBE a couple of years earlier, and made the connection to Jane, so she helped Jane get qualified with Brain Gate, just so she could live a better life on earth as a handicapped person, but never forgetting to motivate Jane in the future possibilities if Tim is indeed right. Her mother worked on Jane's placebo thoughts, telling her to focus strong because you might be doing this for a very long time. After Jane started getting good on the Brain Gate machine, her mother worked with her on a password, just in case things work out as Tim Believe they might.

It was not long after Jane was totally focus on the possibility, that complication from other health issues with her took her life. Jane's mother went to Capital Hill looking for more funding in this area, but was turned down do to lack of evidence, fortunately Jane's mother talked about the experience under the Department of Positive out of Body Afterlife possibilities topic umbrella, so other people in the puzzle had access to the information as well.



She also got training on the machines at a much earlier time, so she had special advantages when the first modified black market Brain Gate machine came on the market. Also after Brain gate began to become public, curtain radio stations bought time shares on the machine, so people could like Jane's mother could try and contact with her daughter. Her mother was always a strong willed person herself, so this all made sense to her, even though other people were not so sure in the possibility.



As I was saying, Jane's mother put her in a potential positive position, and now that it worked out, Jane is returning the favor back to her mom and everybody else as well and she is respected and admired for what she has done, and also the fact that they had the hind sight to have a password put in place, even though they did not need one at the time, and that password can be used anywhere American Express or Visa is taken. She did not have a lot of things when she was alive, but now with here afterlife job, and her low maintained afterlife style, she has piled a lot of money up on all type of different Pay Pales. When she was alive. before she got injured in a hit and run car crash, she was a teacher, and now in her afterlife she is still teaching. She teaches a class on the Internet called "How to live your dreams the right way." She has also written a lot of different books about the topic as well. Maybe you have heard of them before:

"Don't forget your Password" this book talks about other passwords you can use, if you did not have one recorded with Brain Gate before, and they are making great strides in communicating with people from other centuries as well, come to find out, they have been getting smarter while in an out of body experience thanks to some people who use big screen TV's when watching the news, and the fact that the put the words on the screen, when the news guy is talking. I guess the most famous person they have talked to is Thomas Edison, who replied "I told you so."

other books she has written as well.

"Don't stay connected to every wave that comes your way"

"Victim attitude is a waste of time, take control of your energy"

"How to un-retire in the Afterlife"

What I know about the crosses you bear, and what I am allow to say on a privilege communication device"

She has been a strong advocate in this field for quite some time. She once told me a story about this guy named Tim, who was probably one of the first people to bring this topic to the for front, just to be ridiculed about it all through out is last years as a human. They say he never did get trained, or given a password while he was a human, and nobody has ever heard from him again in the afterlife, I imagine he went off into outer space somewhere, or he is a bigger introvert than I gave him credit to be. Now when I say he went off into outer space, that does not necessarily mean outer space.. Scientist have been claiming for quite some time now, that some people when they cross over, never come out of their right brain thoughts, they believe at the time of changing form, that some people experience such a reaction mentally to it, that there thoughts take them out of pain, which is the reality side of it, and puts them in the make believe side of their thoughts, where they are left dorm ad. They say that some afterlife have been like this for billions of years. Scientist are just now starting to see the advantage now of having high spirits at this time, because even if this energy is small in size to a human body, they still do have the ability to alter other energy around them with a strong afterlife will. They just caution to some afterlife not to get to excited that they caused defects in some devices back on earth.

I guess one of the biggest break through was after they got their first successful hit on a old Brain Gate Machine, that Tim helped modified way back when. Now that they had confirmation with the modified sensor, all they had to do after that was read the area in question.

I forget what type of substance they discovered we were, I don't remember if they said we were a special type of static electricity, the kind that can move around in between waves, or that we were some type of micro, but in any case, they found us. Thanks to people like Jane Doe, who provides extra money for people like me to get access to talk to people like you.

I guess the only big difference I see now on Earth, is how so many business are catering to people like us now. Trying to take advantage of our purchasing dollar. I know the other day that Jane told me she was thinking about buying her own sensor, that was painted like a pink flower. To me all sensors are the same, what ever floats your boat.

Now looking back on it, it's hard to believe how many years they kept arguing about even doing research in that area.

I guess on one hand, even though you know one day you will be put in that situation, you still don't want to think about it. I'm was surprised by how many people at the time, did not want to know more about it, and then found them self's in the same situation I am in. Even though They have now made it possible for people like me to communicate, it is still hard to find a good career you can do, because they are never really sure I am who I say I am. Not like people like Jane Doe, who planned out her whole life, and afterlife. She knew while she was alive at the time, that they did not have the ability to do it, but she knew she loved to communicate, be it on the internet, or on her cell phone, that if the possibility did ever present itself, that she could save a lot of time, by having the training and the confirmation, by getting a her password certified in the National data base, at the World order training center in India, They actually call the building Gandhi' Place. Now Jane was trained in 2010, and they actually had there first inner astral naught success in 2050. So after they started understanding how to do it better, they decided to explore all the past people that had been trained on it first, and that is how Jane got in on the ground floor. At first they would ask her and others to try different experiments, just to see what type of challenges they might be experiencing in their environment, and they also paid them while they were doing this. You would be surprise how much money they are getting from different companies in the private sector.

Tim had a dream, but he thought it was a real, so now he thinks that we can communication with out of body afterlife; the only problem with his strange thought is that we can't prove him wrong, on the dream or the theory. We can expect him to prove it though, since he came up with the thought. He will be expected to take ownership of the thought, since he came up with it, and he needs to understand that. Now we are not apposed to the fact that other people might believe in it as well, and they are all more than welcome to make it a reality, or help Tim as he tries to find a way to make it happen.

.This example below, is hopefully will not be what comes out of this in the future. I would not have a problem with it, if it is example (2)

Imagine about fifty years from now, one of you might be telling this stories around a fake campfire, since real fires will probably be against the law by then anyway, because of global warming, and you bring up this topic at that time.

1) Back in 2007, this guy on the Internet, thought we could communicate with ghost, and he said that one day he would contact us again through a old machine called Brain Gate, and find the person who took his big toe"

(2) Back in 2007, the year we started focused on the heavens, this guy who thought we could do it, was also one of the first people to actually communicate back with us, and the first thing he communicated back after entering in his password was, "who took my big toe."

Thank you once again for reading my thoughts, and please include yours, and I will read and try and understand them as well as you are trying to understand mine.

I find through out life, things seam to work so much better, when it is a good deal for all parties involved.

Thank you,

Tim

Did anyone ever read that, not long before he died, Thomas Edison took a serious interest in communicating with the dead, and that he was working on a physical way of getting in touch with other dimensions?

Dear Lindsay,

You have some really good interest on your profile, I'm impressed.

Thank you,
Tim

Sounds to me like the workaholic Edison was working very hard on his advancement to senility.

Dear Rick,

So how good are you at chess?

Thank you,
Tim

Near Death Experiences
Near-death experiences (NDE) are among the most powerful experiences that a person can have.
When people survive a close brush with death, either because of an accident or maybe because of a heart failure, the experience is known as Near-death experiences (NDEs). One most extraordinary aspect of NDEs is that the underlying pattern seems unaltered by a person's culture or belief system, religion, race, education, or any other known variable.

A person who has had an NDE normally reports being out of the Physical body, hearing buzzing or ringing sounds, moving through a dark tunnel, encountering deceased loved ones, seeing beautiful scenes and colors, hearing angelic music, feeling peaceful and at Home, learning lessons, and an indescribable radiant light full of love and affection. After this brief experience, they are told that it's not yet time to stay on the Other Side, and they rapidly journey back into the constraints of the now resuscitated physical body.

For most people the experience is joyful beyond words. The subject sometimes 'hears' the doctor pronouncing him dead when he feels intensely alive and free from physical pain. They often recount events that occurred during the period of unconsciousness with complete accuracy.

Tens of thousands of NDE cases are now on record by doctors and scientists. All these cases demonstrate a continuation of awareness beyond "death".

I enjoy playing the game, but no matter how good at chess (or any sport) one gets, one can always find someone who can beat him. To become world champion, all you have to do is win half your games. I once won first place in my class at the California Open in Berkeley, 1975.

But they are all from people who did not die. I have heard that the people who have hellish NDEs are reluctant to report them.

To whom it may concern,
When you think about my topic, you might want to think outside the box.
Exactly what is 'Thinking Outside the Box'?
Outside the Box
Thinking outside the box requires different attributes that include:Willingness to take new perspectives to day-to-day work.
Openness to do different things and to do things differently.
Focusing on the value of finding new ideas and acting on them.
Striving to create value in new ways.
Listening to others.
Supporting and respecting others when they come up with new ideas.

Out-of-the box thinking requires an openness to new ways of seeing the world and a willingness to explore. Out-of-the box thinkers know that new ideas need nurturing and support. They also know that having an idea is good but acting on it is more important. Results are what count
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Thank you,
Tim

Outside the "box" in this instance must, due to the complete lack of empirical evidence, be a religious experience or an hallucination.

When you can't prove your point, it is quite often fatal to insult your audience.