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kortikal
All religion, politics, pop music, fads and the wars, waste and suffering resulting from these (cultures) are the product of a collective mind.

The Soviet Union, China's cultural revolution, Cambodia's killing fields and Nazism are all the result of a collective mind.

Observation will show you that nothing worthwhile has ever (and many extremely bad things have) come from "collective-intelligence". This has been the basic truth of human existence for all time.
trojan_libido
We are unable to steer the collective mind at present. Once its embraced it will be easier for us to make breakthroughs that help us understand our direction. Basically at the moment - we're screwed to fate.
FeastDuringThePlague
Question 1: Why are we screwed to "fate"?
Question 2: Why are you limiting only 'taboo' social organizations, and social phenomena unfavorable to you to the list of those envoked by a 'collective mind'. It seems to me that any social organization is largely caused by it?
Hey Hey
QUOTE(kortikal @ Apr 07, 2007, 11:15 PM) *
All religion, politics, pop music, fads and the wars, waste and suffering resulting from these (cultures) are the product of a collective mind.

The Soviet Union, China's cultural revolution, Cambodia's killing fields and Nazism are all the result of a collective mind.

Observation will show you that nothing worthwhile has ever (and many extremely bad things have) come from "collective-intelligence". This has been the basic truth of human existence for all time.
These phenomena are not what we consider as collective consciousness, but rather collective or contributory ideals, more like independent consciousness's social cohesions. We have no collective consciousness as yet, but we assume (hope?) that it is (one of?) humankind's next major evolutionary stages.
trojan_libido
Isnt the internet a form of collective consciousness? Its the most organic media available to us.
Hey Hey
QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Apr 17, 2007, 10:02 AM) *
Isnt the internet a form of collective consciousness? Its the most organic media available to us.
Not really.

Just to point out that a definition of consciousness might be (Wiki):

a quality of the mind generally regarded to comprise qualities such as subjectivity, self-awareness, sentience, sapience, and the ability to perceive the relationship between oneself and one's environment.

So let's not get too tangential.
trojan_libido
Yes, but doesn't consciousness differ from collective consciousness, especially in definition?
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