5 months ago I started learning NLP/DHE.
4 months ago I started running daily right after I woke up for 30 minutes.
3 months ago I switched from horrible food to 90% organic.

These things greatly improved my life.

I am a really happy person and love life!
I use NLP to control my mood and my attitude.

I am:
21 years old
Go to a pretty hard university and I study a lot. (I'm Neurobiology Major )
Skinny, I weight 150lbs

My goals in experiments with nootropics are in this order:
1. Memory enhancement
2. More lucid imagery
3. Focused concentration
4. Creativity
5. Analytical thinking

I wake up each day really happy, I don't have depression.
I am not concerned specifically with life extension, disease fighting, or anti aging at the moment.
I have no health problems.

Based on the info I have provided I would very much appreciate any feedback on which nootropics to try first, what dosages, combinations and when to take them.

Thanks,
BlazeWind

ALCAR, 1-2g once or twice daily, on an empty stomach

Deprenyl, 2mg 3-7 times per week, with food (do plenty of research on it beforehand, though)

Cofee, of course

Ashgawanda before bed

If you are going to use a racetam then I suggest you skip Piracetam, it is way overrated. If you could afford some nefiracetam or pramiracetam then go for it

Also for sporadic use related to intense study sessions you can use stimulants such as ritalin, dextroamphetamine, and modafinil and if you can get any, Desmopressin.

L-Huperzine A 100-200 mcg, Pyritinol 400-1,200 mg, Piracetam 4.8-9.6 grams, Centrophenoxine 1 gram, and perhaps Idebenone 180-360 mg should help give you the effects you are looking for. I would recommend trying 1-2 of the above compounds for a week before adding another compound.




I would advise against the use of any controlled addictive drugs unless you have a condition that does not respond to any other substance. Desmopressin however has been well studied in your age range and is very safe.

Side note: As interesting as fast acting stimulants are they do not effect the underlying factors behind cognition and brain aging as most true nootropics do. Thus I do not recommend them.

There is no rational reason why the occasional use of an amphetamine or amphetamine-like compound would cause ramifications, unless one is unwise. If you have alot of work that needs to get done period, they are second to none.

I also don't see any reason why one should use Piracetam at this point in time, given the abundance of better racetams on the market. Aniracetam would be better to start with, for sure.

Aside from legal issues, I prefer to recommend safe non addictive stimulants such as Pyritinol. I've had alot of college students respond to Pyritinol as well as rilatin. I don't believe in quick fixes only productive long term enhancement.



While I acknowledge the stronger potency (per mg) of certain racetams over others the research with Piracetam still remains ongoing and the massive weight of studies confirm it's numerious neurochemical and biochemical effects in effecting both cognitive and cardiovascular health. I have not seen any other racetam come close in Piracetam in this matter.

Piracetam has been proven to be safe over a long period of study. Nefiracetam on the other hand has had bad indications. There was a study in which it seemed to cause cancer in mouse testicles. Use at your own risk. To use not only addictive but potentially highly neurotoxic chemicals like amphetamines is just begging for trouble. We have a legion of meth addicts now as it is. Recommending that people use these substances is not going to help things.

The nefiracetam study was a joke. You can't even afford to take that much every day. It is most likely just as safe as piracetam.

Once again, I was referring to responsible use of amphetamines (and no, that is not a contradiction). If you need inhuman output for a short period, this is a highly rational option. I'm not telling him to crush it up and snort it, or take it every day.

Furthermore, both of the above actually have effects that seem to be stronger than a cup of coffee, which can't be said for piracetam. Sure, it is incredibly well studied and proven to help combat a host of neurological diseases, but in reality, it just doesn't seem to do much in young healthy people. That being said, it is certainly not a BAD idea to take it. I just feel it is a little outdated when compared to other compounds.

I would assume you're referring simply to the effects you feel from taking it rather than the cardiovascular & neurological benefits it provides health people? In which case I would not strongly disagree.

Pretty much, yes. Switching to a more powerful -racetam gives you stronger acute and apparent effects and loses you nothing, as far as I have seen.

EDIT:

Of course, it must be noted that we tread on soft scientific ground here, with anecdotal data there is always that boogeyman of placebo hiding "under the bed".

Some newer racetams such as Nefiracetam should be avoid due to little research of safety and effectiveness. Regardless if you "feel" an effect. Your long term health should be more important.



With the newer racetams I would agree. However the research in Piracetam improving IQ and certain aspects of cognition is well founded and ongoing. Would you be interested in being in a small study with Piracetam?

I will be in 3 months

Thank you LifeMirage and Gahan!

I decided to order some piracetam.

I woke up today, took 800mg piracetam.

I immediately went running at the gym and and I always put myself into a superfast visual state when running.
Ate breakfast and took a shower, went to class.

I went to Organic Chemistry class and I felt unusually focused and quick.
Then I went to Genetics 466 and I felt really quick and talkative and was focused for the whole class.

Then I went to work and halfway through I got extremely focused like nothing else mattered but the task, I work with computer servers.

I also started getting a 'headache' at this time but instead of causing me to lose concentration I felt that it actually was helping my concentration and didn't bother me but it is still weird I'm not sure how to describe.

Then right after work I felt this crazy thing, it was like being drunk and extremely quick at the same time, I was talking extremely fast and clearly and felt very happy.

Then I went to the library and studied for 5 hours straight and I rarely lost my concentration, while still feeling this 'headache' I felt absorbed. Usually I read too fast and get lost, but this time I naturally went slow and concentrated on exactly what I was reading.

I believe I have good state awareness because I use NLP to change my states which changes my brain chemicals around and this seems to be enhancing the states I am elicting. NLP is virtually creating placebos in my mind to change my brain chemicals but I was feeling things I don't usually feel today while elicting my usual states.

I don't know if it just my genetics, attitude, placebo, or nlp, but thats what 800mg piracetam did to me today.

This is cool. I just ordered L-Huperzine A, Pyritinol, and Centrophenoxine.

EDIT:

headache might have been from caffiene. I eat 1 teaspoon of green tea with every meal, so I eat 3 teaspoons a day green tea. If I eat more than that sometimes I get a headache from caffiene, but never with 3 teaspoons a day. Maybe piracetam amplifies caffiene...

no green tea today I'll see what happens

Ok, first 6 hours after taking 800mg piracetam by itself it great, then after that I have a headache for the rest of the day until I go to sleep.

Combined with 250mg Centrophenoxine did not help.
Combined with 500mg Centrophenoxine did not help either.

Anyone have any ideas why I have a headache after 6 hours?
Anyone else have this problem?

Am I just incompatible with piracetam?

If you are prone to headaches taking compounds that increase cerebral blood flow may make them worse in the short term.

Blaze, it seems odd that you would notice an effect so quickly from piracetam. Most people take at least a few days and often weeks to notice any difference. Also, 800mg is a relatively small amount to start with particularly without a choline source and you say using centro did not seem to alter the experience. I'd be tempted to say it was placebo but the "drunk and extremely quick at the same time" does sound like pir. Maybe you should try cutting back the dose and see how you react? I doubt caffeine gave you a headache, it usually takes away a headache but not always. Play around with the dosage but take it for a period of time like a few weeks so you can be sure you are reacting to it and not something else. Then try it with centro and see how that effects you. I would do the same things with the other stuff you ordered. Trying a bunch of things together means you don't know what each one did. Piracetam seems to give it's effects over a period of time.

Piractam's neurochemical effects start working within a few hours after taking it. Not all people have the ability to perceive the measurable improvements in cognition right away.

I'm starting with Piracetam due to the ponderous findings out there. I recently quit drinking, and some of my interest in Piracetam is the restorative effects it has shown. Choline once a week is the only other thing I will stack for a bit.

I am deeply researching Deprenyl, and looking for a source of pramiracetam. The goal directed, purposive signature imputed to the pram is what intrigues me. the Deprenyl appears to have many benefits, most notably I am interested in its profile of balancing major neurotransmitter levels.

By the way, for clearing one's consciousness, I have repeatedly heard that several sessions of colon hydrotherapy are unequivocal.