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Trip like I do
Intuition - we place our selves, through our attention, within the imediate duration in which we act.... understanding the act from within rather than from without.

Intelligence - the mind orders itself to practicality.... we view the rush of experience in terms of stable patterns mirrored in concepts which are, as it were, snapshots of reality.

rhymer
For me, intuition comes from the subconcious; one suddenly realises that 'something' seems correct or at least very possible and worthy of intelligent investigation.

Intelligence is used in the application of ones problem-solving capabilities (based on knowledge and experience), and in particular, the ability to design experiments to test suppositions or determine new facts or ideas and the ability to discern (through understanding probabilities) the difference between delusions and realities.
Trip like I do
I wonder if they are opposing or complimentary functions of the mind?

They are two different avenues to reality opperating on different aspects of experience.
Trip like I do
Intelligence is experience refracted through the prism of space?
Trip like I do
Is then intuition abstracted and intelligence fundamentally concrete/absolute?
Trip like I do
By temporally dilating time the successiveness and frequency of experience can be noted.
Trip like I do
.... succession is noted only from outside the series, as when one stands on an embarkment and counts the cars on a passing train (impossible to do from within the train).

One needs to learn to simultaneously stand both within and without the series.
Trip like I do
but anyway.... is it gutteral intuition rather than intellectual analysis which give us the outlines to some of the most unyeilding scientific problems?
Trip like I do
.... in intuition we again come back to a metapysical mode of navigation.
Enki
Intuition is a great thing and what it is, is still unknown. We have interesting suppositions but there is no unified theory explaining all the phenomena related with the intuition.

And what Intelligence is should be possible asked in CIA, NSA and MI6, but my experience shows that they have no idea about what it is.

And if without jokes, the Intelligence is a self congruent dynamic database based on biological data storage complex structure, known as brain [which interacts with surrounding media via vary various forms of communication, possibly even telepathic, and possibly pinging info all over the universe], which is ordered by flexible categories undergoing constant process of transformations, data verifications, key generations, self assembling systemization and data growing, some people hope/think that it preserves after brain destruction in the frozen light and/or as a mirror alive object in a parallel quantized space.
Joesus
There is one explaination, that all that happens whether past present or future is recorded in the Akasha. Universal mind which is not bound by any physical manifestation but connected to all physical manifestation, not limited to time can know past present and future events at will.

"The Aquarian Age Gospel of Jesus, the Christ of the Piscean Age" Author Levi H. Dowling is an account of Jesus life written by Levi after spending 40 years in study and meditation refining his ability to see into the Akasha.
Tho this idea is not something new it is something that is often scrutinized by the intellect which relates to things of the physical senses and the majority in its acceptance of truth and reality.

One who spoke of the Akasha and their ability to access it was Edgar Cayce.

The description of the Akasha in the Aquarian Gospel follows:
Akasha is a Sanskrit word, and means "Primary substance," that out of which all things are formed. According to Aquarian philosophy, it is the first stage of the crystallisation of spirit. This philosophy recognises the fact that all primordial substance is spirit; that matter is spirit moving at a lower rate of vibration, becoming, as one master expressed it, a coagulum. This Akashic, or primary substance, is of exquisite fineness and is so sensitive that the slightest vibration of an ether any place in the universe registers an indelible upon it. This primal substance is not relegated to any particular part of the universe, but is everywhere present. It is in very fact the "Universal Mind" of which our metaphysicians speak. When the mind of man is in exact accord with the Universal Mind man enters into a conscious recognition of these Akashic impressions, and may collect them and translate them into any language of earth with which he is familiar. In the infinite One manifest we note the attributes of Force, Intelligence and Love, and a person may be in full accord with one of these attributes and not with the others. One may enter fully into the spirit of the God of Force and not be imbued with the spirit of Intelligence; or one may be wholly absorbed with the spirit of Divine Love and be far removed from both Intelligence and Force. Furthermore, a person may enter fully into the consciousness of Holy Breath, or Supreme Intelligence, and be not at all in rapport with either Love or Force. Knowledge is not gained through the spirit of either Force or Love. It is only from Universal Mind. which is Supreme Intelligence, called by Oriental scholars the Akashic Records, and by Hebrew masters, the Book of God's Remembrance, that knowledge of any kind can be obtained. Consciousness; we note three phases of it:

1 Consciousness of the omnipotence of God and man.
2 Christ consciousness, or consciousness of Divine Love.
3 Consciousness of the Holy Breath, or of Supreme Intelligence. We must bear in mind that one of these phases of consciousness does not necessarily imply either of the others. People are frequently found who are completely filled with the Love of God, are far advanced in the science of Christ consciousness, who are absolutely ignorant; have not the slightest conception of the laws of natural things or of spiritual things; are not in rapport with the great Teacher which is the Holy Spirit. The Akashic Records. The imperishable records of life, known as the Akashic Records, are wholly in the domain of Supreme Intelligence, or Universal Mind, and the Akashic record reader must be in such close touch with the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Breath, as the ancient masters call this spirit of Supreme Intelligence, that every vibration is instantly felt in every fibre of his being. Differentiation. Since all space is charged with vibrations of thoughts of all kinds how may the Akashic Record reader differentiate and gather only the thoughts and life events of a paticular person or group of persons? Every person has his own distinct vibration and when the reader fully understands the law of discrimination his whole being is tuned for the reception of the one particular tone and rhythm, and it is impossible for any other tone or rhythm to make the slightest impression upon him. This principle is demonstrated in wireless telegraphy. It required many years for Levi to learn the Law of Differentiation, and to come in rapport with the tones and rhythms of Jesus of Nazareth, Enoch and Melchizedec and their co-labourers. But under the direction of the Spirit of Supreme Intelligence, he has attained unto this accomplishment, and now he instantly feels in all his being the slightest vibrations that come from any of these great centres and, of course, all of his transcriptions are true to the letter.
Enki
Definitely 2007 will be a year of serious transformations on this planet.

Interesting stuff Joesus. Vibrations are working, hm? smile.gif Saint Grail is resonating?
lucid_dream
for me, intelligence is about detecting, discerning, discriminating (in the sense of discriminative capabilities, and not in terms of racism or sexism), and dissecting things apart into components, "divide and conquer", whereas intuition is about seeing the whole from the parts, Gestalts, and higher-order, holistic perception and thinking.
Enki
QUOTE(lucid_dream @ Dec 30, 2006, 12:58 AM) *

for me, intelligence is about detecting, discerning, discriminating (in the sense of discriminative capabilities, and not in terms of racism or sexism), and dissecting things apart into components, "divide and conquer", whereas intuition is about seeing the whole from the parts, Gestalts, and higher-order, holistic perception and thinking.


I liked the incorporation of the Gestalts.

Why we do not draft a special vocabulary on the Brainmeta? Any ideas?
HiddenVariable
First off, what is with people waving their large words around on this discussion? Extremely vague...

Enki:
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Intuition is a great thing and what it is, is still unknown. We have interesting suppositions but there is no unified theory explaining all the phenomena related with the intuition.

And what Intelligence is should be possible asked in CIA, NSA and MI6, but my experience shows that they have no idea about what it is.

And if without jokes, the Intelligence is a self congruent dynamic database based on biological data storage complex structure, known as brain [which interacts with surrounding media via vary various forms of communication, possibly even telepathic, and possibly pinging info all over the universe], which is ordered by flexible categories undergoing constant process of transformations, data verifications, key generations, self assembling systemization and data growing, some people hope/think that it preserves after brain destruction in the frozen light and/or as a mirror alive object in a parallel quantized space.


Saying that intelligence is self congruent doesn't seem meaningful at all to me. A dynamic database based on biologically [manipulated] data storage complex structure, eh? That seems more clear. It reminds me of the many different types of proposed AI systems. Some evolve with time, some use various "learning" algorithms. This also reminds me of development of intelligence from the point of birth, and how different experiences may affect different thinking styles.

I understand that you mean the way neurons, synapses, etc. of the brain organize and reorganize observed information, and the information itself, plays a role in determining intelligence.

Your statements about telepathy and mysticism reminds me of the tinfoil hat type smile.gif (And, coincidently, my own screen name, even though I am not that type.)

You start getting pretty ambiguous with key generations and the brain destruction statements, at which point I have no idea what you are talking about biggrin.gif And, by the way, the intel referred to in secret organizations is not the same as what we are talking about here, it is unrelated, and thus your alluding to them is off-topic.

Now Joesus, were you joking? I truthfully cannot tell if you are sincere with your tactics or are cleverly posing them.

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[..] all primordial substance is spirit; that matter is spirit moving at a lower rate of vibration, becoming, as one master expressed it, a coagulum.


Is that a fact? (My question is rhetorical.)

What you have in your post is what I would describe as fantastical emotionalism. If one wants to logically reduce these ideas, instead of supposing such appealing notions, one should better think about what really consciousness, mind, omni-, benevolence and malevolence, objectivity and subjectivity, and the like are in actuality.

Think about this tongue twister: Our own thinking of how our thinking is is determined by how our own thinking works. Recursion is a helluvah idea.
Casey
QUOTE(HiddenVariable @ Jan 15, 2007, 12:08 AM) *

What you have in your post is what I would describe as fantastical emotionalism. If one wants to logically reduce these ideas, instead of supposing such appealing notions, one should better think about what really consciousness, mind, omni-, benevolence and malevolence, objectivity and subjectivity, and the like are in actuality.

The whole can be greater than the sum of it's parts. (For all practical purposes) Not everything can be reduced to a simple formula or method of logic.

I also believe it's logical to entertain the thoughts of others, even if they seem absurd. If every scientific journal said the world was flat, and one man told you it was round. Would you call him foolish?
Joesus
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Now Joesus, were you joking? I truthfully cannot tell if you are sincere with your tactics or are cleverly posing them.

It doesn't matter if you don't believe, does it!?


QUOTE
What you have in your post is what I would describe as fantastical emotionalism. If one wants to logically reduce these ideas, instead of supposing such appealing notions, one should better think about what really consciousness, mind, omni-, benevolence and malevolence, objectivity and subjectivity, and the like are in actuality.

Thinking is always the precurser to a commitment to explore reality beyond the terms and conditions that the intellect can bind itself.

History is full of the richness of direct experience. The only thing that degrades the experience of the unlimited is the need to limit it within the terms of human relativity or emotionalism.

Oh ye of little faith...
Enki
QUOTE(HiddenVariable @ Jan 14, 2007, 10:08 PM) *

Saying that intelligence is self congruent doesn't seem meaningful at all to me. A dynamic database based on biologically [manipulated] data storage complex structure, eh? That seems more clear. It reminds me of the many different types of proposed AI systems. Some evolve with time, some use various "learning" algorithms. This also reminds me of development of intelligence from the point of birth, and how different experiences may affect different thinking styles.

I understand that you mean the way neurons, synapses, etc. of the brain organize and reorganize observed information, and the information itself, plays a role in determining intelligence.

Your statements about telepathy and mysticism reminds me of the tinfoil hat type smile.gif (And, coincidently, my own screen name, even though I am not that type.)

You start getting pretty ambiguous with key generations and the brain destruction statements, at which point I have no idea what you are talking about biggrin.gif And, by the way, the intel referred to in secret organizations is not the same as what we are talking about here, it is unrelated, and thus your alluding to them is off-topic.


I guess I provided alluring and obviously brain stimulating definition.

Only reconstruction. Fraction, Diffraction, Attraction, Extraction. Beautiful consonants.

You do not like jokes about CIA, NSA and MI6? I see, possibly I missed to mention some other party, envious?
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