So anyone who has read my other post on the relationship one, knows that i'm pregnant, and as of yet, still havn't talked to the dad. The other possible dad, the only one I care about, the only one I will allow to be a part of my life, the only one I actually like.

So, my friend sayd that I should wait, bcuz he came to her house, to ask about the due date, coz he wanted to know, and that he sayd he was gonna call me when he had time and his shit was together or watever. so I waited, and I waited, and i'm still waiting. On my way to her house, I saw him, he was home. He is never home unless he is coming down, and getting shit togther for a while. So my question is, he's home, so why hasn't he taken the time to call me? I know he cares about me, I know he does, I just, Idk... I dont wanna call him and bug him, coz he aint the commitment type, and I know and understand that. Which is why he doesn't need to be like a permanant fixture in my or my kids life, I will give him the chance to state wat he wants, I just wanna know. I aint forcing him into anything, I don't care, well I do, I love him, and that's why i'm allowing him to make this choice, I just don't know how to talk to him. I dont wanna seem like i'm bugging him by calling, that' y I wait, but I can't fuckin go on with my life without knowing, I just can't do this anymore. That sounded like a relationshi problem, but I ain't done yet.

My friend Darrell, and my friend Kristie and I were involded in an assult a while back, before i actually found out i was pregnant, but i was at the time. It was Kristie's soon to be ex husband that did it, and his friend, but her husband was hella drunk. Long story short, there were some injuries, but we decided to drop charges, not press them if he would just give her shit to her and leave us alone right? Well the prosocuter says we can't do that, that it's up to him whether charges are pressed or not, which I get is the law ok? But the court dates are mon. thru wed. Now mon. I ain't busy. But i have a doctors app. on tues out in tacoma, to check and see if my baby has a birth defect that runs in my family. The ultra sound has to be done before a certain time and that's why i HAVE to go on tues. Wed, i have to go to a WIC app. They only come down where i am, like once every three months, i can't miss that app. Besides that, Kriste and darrell havnt called the prosoctuer, at all, and are planning on just not going. The prosocuter called me today and sayd that we had to be there, everyone, and that they had to call, or else everyone would have warrents issued, as in cops pickin us up, as in going to jail, for not appearing as a witness.. I will not go to jail. He told me i had to get ahol of them and tell them that, which brings me to my next "problem"

They wouldn't answer the door, they never answer the mother fukin door, what if it's an emergncey, like today? Darrell's mom shut off theire electricity (it was in her name) and so they don't have that or a phone, but that don't matter coz they won't anser the phone either. When I used to call, and say darrell would answer and say kristie will call you back she's busy right now, it don't matter how damn important it was to me, she never called back. We've been best friends for almost ten years ok? Ten years, but i can't do this anymore. its stressful, and it fuckin hurts. They get in fights all the time coz he is abusive and he puts me in the middle of it while she is yelling at me and having me chase him down in my g-mpa's pick-up just to "catch him in a lie" wasting my gas and time for nothing. I just get yelled at coz she takes it out on me bcuz she knows i'll forgive her... How is that fair to me? I can't handle this shit anymore. I just can't. She'll send me away so they can talk, and tell me to be back in half an hour, and when i kshow up, send me away again and tell m to come back later. If i say i can't she says she'll come get me in a while but never does. its like she ignores me, and doesn't care about how i feel, but I know she does.. i just dont know what to do about that...

Now my family, my house, the only place i have... I cna't stay here... its horrible. I fight with my mom and grandparents alll the time. Yes we live with my grandparents bcuz my mom doesn't have a real job, she can't support us. yet my brother and i get yelled at about it being our fualt and saying we need to get a job to support the family, which is another problem coz there is no place to get a job aoround here, i have applied at every availible spot, which is like four places. Lat year was some huge family problems and long story short i was kicked out a few times, left but had to come back, my brother was almost killed, we got kicked out at 300 in the morning hardly had any clothes on, fuckin freezing outside, i mean the problems here are never ending, and i have no place to go........

I geuss basically i just wanted a place to vent about shit, but i really could use all the help you can give me, coz i'm drowning here and I dont know wat to do... If i wasn't pregnant, i would be dead already, but this kid saved my life and iw ill do EVERYTHING I can, and anything i can't, to save this kid, and make it happy.

Well since nobody thought it ok to respond, I geuss i'll just let ya'll know how i worked out most of it all by myself, just like always, I just always thought this site was different. Court was stupid, I sat out there for over an hour b4 they told me they didn't need me bcuz he already pleaded guilty.. Little did I know that he did so almost a wk b4 hand, they just didn't think to call me. He doens't have any jail time, they counted them as misdameaners... Like four of them i think, and he had a 1000 dollar fine. As for everything else, its all still fucked up. And i'm still drowing by myself with no idea how to cope. All I want is someone to hold me and tell me i'm gonna be ok... but i geuss its to much to ask for... even for havings omeone SAY its gonna be allright.

Feel free to e-mail me, msg me on AIM, or chat in person (I will be in Portland Oregon on the 5th if you live any where near the Washington-Oregon boarder). I would offer calling, but the only phone I have is a business line that I have to keep open...but if you would like to txt me go right ahead (650)218-4669

Thats the thing, you need to be strong on the inside and not need other people to make you strong. At the end of the day, the only person you have is yourself and if you cant rely on yourself, who can you rely on? Although the best of us get sad and stressed at times, it is how you deal with it and how you react to those situations which will determine what kind of person you will become. Theres nothing wrong with asking for advice, but BrainMeta is not the type of place that takes pity on people, everyone has difficulties they must endure and hardships they must face. If you cant find a job at the place you live.. do what everyone else does, follow the money.. because where there is money, there is jobs, move somewhere where there is jobs if you cant find one where you are at now.

My life is full of tragedy but I care not to tell my story, thats just the way I am, but how I deal with such things is very diffrent than how the average person reacts. Now, you can choose to let these hardships control your life, to let them decide how you will live in the years to come.. or you can take whats rightfully yours by the throat, hold on with every last bit of life in your body and let no one take it away from you. In the end, all that really matters is if you can wake up in the morning and look yourself in the mirror.

Among successful people, there is one common trait they hold, it is that they believe they can do anything and will never give up until they get what they want. You can fail the first time, the second time, hell even the 12th time but if you want it more than anyone else wants to stop you, eventually you can make dreams.. come true.

I realize I am not being nice and specific to your exact situation, but the truth be told, you can either let other people decide how you live your life or you decide how to live your life. Who do you think has a better idea of what you want out of life? Now, get out into the world, stop worrying about stupid people because there is far to many of them to get stressed out about and start doing what you enjoy.

I couldn't agree more--success will not just come. You have to make life happen. I have been through more at 17 than most people will in a lifetime, good and bad.

Ok you can't just "move to where the money is" If you don't have the money to do so. I'm not syaing that i don't agree with wat you sayd, coz I do, and that's basically how I react to things. But sometimes things get to be to much. And if I remember correclty, and I do, this site is, used to be anyway, a place where you can go and get help, hello, hence the name personal advice. If you don't wanna help then don't. All I wantd was a little advice bcuz sometimes people do need that. I sound like a b*tch, and I understand, but watever. All I wanted was to feel like someone cared, and that's exalcty wat this site used to provide for me, people who cared, helped me out when I needed it, and were there for me. If that aint how it is anymore, then to hell with it, I have enough confrontations in my real every day life, I don't need to start them on here too.

Clearly you have internet access, if you can't move to where the money is make the money come to you. Start up an LLC and see what sort of revenue streams you can generate via the internet. The only job requirement is ambition.

I have interent accsess bcuz my grandparents pay for it. And wat is LLC???

You could start making money over the internet through affiliate programs like clickbank.com you need less than 100 dollars to start up an ebiz like that. The major requirement for making money on line is lots and lots and lots of reading, very little money needs to be spent. There have been people who spent 100 and made a thousand and there are those who spent 10,000 and didnt make a dime. The diffrence is the people with 100 knew what they were doing, the people with 10,000 didnt.

Also, there are plenty of government programs to help you out, its twice as easy for a woman to get a buisness loan through specialty government organizations than it is for a man. Check out feminist groups ect, for where to get information for applying, although you may not be a feminist, they are the ones who fought for the gov to encourage women entrepreneaurs, and the gov helps them through various loan and grant programs.

LLC - Limited Liability Company I believe. It is just a safer way (in my opinion) to start up a company as opposed to a sole proprieter or partnership type deal. You can register a domain name for essentially nothing. doteasy.com offers an alright deal~

See, the thing is, I dont have under a hundred dollars. Have u not got what i've been saying? As for the whole start up a busniess on the internet, its not something I wanna do. Ya I get that to get money and take of shit you sometime have to do wat you don't wanna do, I get that. But starting a busniesses is also somthing I can't do. I'm not smart enuf, nor do I have the patience for that sort of shit. I wanna be a counsler, or a journalist. That is fun, and you get money too. Besides, I have to go to college. I HAVE to. You don't get that. And my grandparents are kickin us out next year, regardless of whether we have a place to be or not. Besides, all I wanted was someone to show they cared, bcuz that's how this site USED to be. I could come here, b*tch about any little trivial thing that went wrong, and automatically someone would pop up saying shit like i'm so sorry and how I got thru that was like this. People cared. Idk wtf happened to this site now, but it sure as hell AINT wat it used to be. Maybe I just doin't need it anymore, idk.. I mean its werid, I have practically no-one right now, my best friend? Still, it's been over a month since I talked to her, the father of my baby? Been over three months. I ain't seen none of my friends, coz I ain't been out of the house down at the places they go to... All I got is the family I gave up on, moved out on, got kicked ou of, and disowned last year. And my heart is breaking everytime I turn around bcuz all I can think is what if I was wrong with wat happned last year, and what if I was lied to, and I fucked up the best thing I could of ever had. The family I gave up, for two other people. And apparently this aint ur concern bcuz hell all you wanna do is tell me to get thru it on my own and start a busnisess. That ain't wat I need. I get enuf fuckin carreer and college advice from my mom and my grandparents. All I want, is someone to talk to. I don't have that anymore. I used to think I could come here for that, but I geuss that aint wat you do on here anymore.

ANGELROSE WRITES:
So you want to be a journalist? You can begin by separating your thoughts so readers like me will find them easier to read.

Interestingly, just yesterday I heard a great journalist and author, Michael Valpy--he is read all across Canada--give a speech on, "The Role of the Church in this Rapidly Changing Society". He spoke at the anniversary--the 201th.--of http://willowdaleunited.com founded in 1805. I was the minister there before I retired. I now live just north of the church. He is a highly-respected and senior writer with the http://www.globeandmail.com It is Canada's oldest national paper. We have one other--The National Post. One is liberal (Democrat), the other is conservative (Republican), I read both. BTW, in Canada, "liberal" is not a dirty word like it is in the USA. [Front page story in today's Globe and Mail is about dealing with poverty.]
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home

Mr. Valpy is very concerned about what is tearing our cities apart and what can be done to bring them together. He writes a lot about social policy and urban issues.

1. The first point he made in his speech was that he became a journalist because, "I love having a conversation with culture" he said. He spoke about what divides cultures and what can help help bring them together. (Willowdale UC now has a Korean minister and members now mixed in with English, Scottish, Irish, German, Chinese etc., Canadians.)

2. Then he spoke of the Canadian-mosaic approach to cultures, as compared with American cousins' melting-pot approach. Then he mentioned an area "not far from this church" known for having several unsolved social problems, which need our serious attention, and which are probably rooted in "the struggle faced by a black underclass".

3. His final point centered around the need to take action and to act on the basis of what we value. "Values, by themselves, are not enough" he said. We have to have the courage to act on them. "This is why my favourite book in the Bible is the letter of James, the brother of Jesus. James ( see 1:19-27) tells us that we need to be 'doers of the word, not hearers only'.

By the way, he won a national-newspaper award for one report he did on "How schools cope with the children of dysfunctional families".

Now, what more than what you said above do you want to talk about? Or is it too private for public viewing?

Two words, government grants. Free money so you can go to college, listen, nobody has ever handed me a damn thing. Ive fought hard for what I have and im not going to take pity on someone because they are not willing to do the work to get what they want. If YOU really want to go to college, then you should start researching government grants right away, check about getting a student loan and start looking to community groups like the lions club that help people. Im not here to say oh poor you, im here to HELP you, if you want pity.. there is plenty of people on the forum to take pity on you... If however, you want help then im the person you should be talking to. Yes I can be a bit of an ass cause im not feeling terribly sorry for you, however I CAN give you, useful information that will make your life better.

Honestly, I felt sorry for myself a long time ago and you know what happened? not a damn thing. Pity wont fix anything, Ask for advice and information on what to do, people in africa are starving... people in Iraq are being killed... people in china are working for 10 cents an hour... and... youve got it easier than all of them so, toughen up or you will never make it through college.

So, what should you do? google: government grants and then google: student loans after that go down to your library and ask a librarian for information on gov grants and student loans.

Listen, if you cant get a gov grant then you can get a student loan and if you for some ungodly reason are unable to get a student loan, which is next near to impossible (unless your rich, then you cant get one lol)... then you can look to community organizations who can help you. IF all else should fail, you can hop on a bus, rent a room for a couple hundred bucks and get working, then you will have money for college. Now dont tell me you cant raise a tiny bit of money to pay for a room to rent and a bus fare. Most students are renting rooms or dorms and its probably what you will have to do too.

There you have it, dont give me oh this forums changed and boo hoo, bottom line is ive given you all the information you need to get to college, im more than willing to help you find more information... so if anything this forum has gotten better, you get much better information.

If your not serious about going to college and all you really wanna have is a shoulder to cry on, Lindsay is usually a much more sympathetic person than I am. If I were to guess someone who would surely take pity on you and demand poetic justice, I would guess Steven Curtis Lance, he is a nice guy and could make you feel better.

Bottom line is, want to know how to get to college? ask maximus and other information providing people (theres a lot of em)...

Want someone to feel sorry for you? ask the poets.

Max, your unusual comment prompts me to ask: Who is SCL? Is there something wrong with sympathy--that is, sharing the sorrow or trouble of another? How about empathy? I prefer to think of myself as having empathy--that is, using my imagination to enter into the experiences of others, to offer compassionate and practical support that will help them help themselves to find social justice and personal peace of mind. The intention is to inspire others to pass it on--as written about in the Letter of James. Have you read it?

I feel this empathy probably because I was born and raised in a third-world kind of poverty during the depression--1930-1939. My mother died (1935) when I was five. My father, seriously ill after that, died (1944) when I was fourteen. Despite this, with the help of older siblings--great labouring-type people--I got through public school--worked a year in the mines--and into university at 17. I was made a minister in 1953 and was sent to help organize a squatters' town (115 families) --now over 9,000 people--in Labrador, Newfoundland. Quite an adeventure. My wife and I were both 23.. And no government grants or student loans. Am I boasting? Seeing that you, graciously, gave me the opportunity, Why not? Maybe it will give AR a little hope.

To me, the following sounds like sympathy, empathy and boasting. ,
Max: :

And, is the following in praise of poets? Or what?

Max, never mind. I checked it out and found out who SCL is. 237 pages, imagine!!! Since 2003. I do remember now, I checked it out awhile back. I like some poetry, but I am not deep into it. FYI: http://www.authorsden.com/stevencurtislance and
http://people.lulu.com/blogs/view.php?user_id=24826

He mentioned that he is a Lutheran minister, and born in 1954--the year of Hurricane Hazel, and the year I went to Boston University to do some postgrad studies--I focussed on THE HISTORY OF IDEAS.

BTW, I did quite a bit of research on how theology is related to philosophy and psychology. This led me to pneumatology and the role that healthy religion can play in the promotion of holism--personal and social health, including social justice.

Don't get me wrong: I support fair criticism of and fair comment about the danger of blind faith and sick religion. A faith which contradicts reason and cannot be tested is, for me, not worth believing or acting on.

However, I am persuaded that a healthy religion can be a powerful weapon against evil, of which sick religions are the worst forms. BTW, in my opinion, all the arts, including poetry and music, especially politics and economics, and the sciences, including medicine, have their sick side and can be corrupted. Look at the evil and abusive way Nazism and Communism used all the arts and sciences. Nazi armies had their "Christian" chaplains and wore on their belts "Gott Mit Uns"--God with us.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT
And here is a thought: Has it ever occurred to anyone that perhaps it was a remenant few--there were a faithful, moral and ethical few, even within Nazi Germany, such as Dietrich Bonhoeffer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer --who even gave up their lives that evenutally brought about the end of Nazism and Communism? http://www.dbonhoeffer.org/

Certainly most of the leaders of the allied forces were devout. There is famous Patton Quote: His chaplain asked him if he read the Bible. He responded: "Every God-damned day!!!" Apparently, he read more than Rommel's book on tank warfare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel
BTW, I have not read about his religious faith. Has anyone found anything? Apparently he was a brave and just person.

I must check out and see if SCL is still an active minister.

Ok, first of all, I apolagize for not making shit easier to read. When I am in a bad mood, or a sad one, or just hella hormonal from being all pregnant and shit, I don't stop and try to curb wat i'm saying or how it's being sayd. Which would be why I sound like a b*tch, and like all I want is pity.

Second of all, DON'T fuckin pity me, that aint wat I want. All I want, is someone to care. That ain't pity. I don't feel sorry for myself, I don't sit around all day saying oh poor me. Ya I do have some times when depression sets in, which BTW, is a dieseas of ur head, a chemical imbalince, and not something you can just, get up and fix. (thanx for "advice" tho max) But I dont spend all day thinking up ways to get people to feel sorry for me. And i'm SO fuckin tired of people saying that's all I want.

Third, yea, I understand there are people out there who have it worse than me. I get that. But stop fuckin acting like my mom and saying I don't have anything to worry or complain about just bcuz of that. Just bcuz people have tihngs worse than you, don't make ur problems any less real... Aight? And if you don't get that, then ur way more fuckin stupid than I thought when I FIRST read ur response.

And, if you'd paid any attention to everything that I'd written, you'd have gotten wat I sayd. I dont fuckin WANT to go to college. I had NEVER planned on that. Just not something I wanted to do. I hated school, I fuckin hated everything about it. From the people to the actualy schoolwork. I didnt even wanna finish fuckin HIGH school. Not my thing, i'm not smart enuf, I can't do it. (not lookin for "pity" or anything, i'm just telling ya how it is) What I was saying, was that I HAVE to. I get that. And for your information, I am looking at online schools. Which is wat i'll have to do since I have other things to be doing.

And BTW, this site HAS changed. If u don't get that? Then you don't pay enuf fricken attention. People used to care on here, now everyone is basiaclly like you. All u do is say hey I did it, so you can too. Maybe people don't WANT that.. Understand? Maybe some people just wanna feel like they'res somone there for them... To talk to.. do u get THAT? Or shuold I say it again in a diff. and hope you'll understand then?

Now, I just had to tell you exaclty how I felt about ur fuckin comments. To get across what you wanna say, you don't have to be such an asshole. ok? People are different. They feel differently, they react to things differently, and maybe you shouldn't come across so damn strong and fuckin independent all the time. Sometimes that kind of "help" can cause alot of damage. Especially if that's the shit they deal with everyday. Now if I havn't made myslef clear enuf yet, i'll spell it out for you. If all ur gonna do it critisize and tell me to do it on my own, and that I need'nt feel sorry for myself, then F**K off. And don't bother writing, coz I don't want "help" per'say. I want someone to care.

Now, Lindsey, finally i'll get to you. Not in a bad way either, coz I liked wat you had to say, you were there for me, gave me ideas, and didn't push the "i'm supeior and always right" angle like, well ya know, Max, did.

It's not to personal.. Well it is, but no-body on here knows me so it don't matter what I say.. Its not like you guys can see me everday and I have to look at you knowing i've told you everything about me. All I want, is someone to talk to. I don't have that anymore. The person I talked to hasn't talked to me in over a month, and so I don't have anyone.

I sit at home and cringe everytime I hear a cop car or ambulence go by, bcuz wat if... What if it's the father of my baby in a high speed cop chase again? What if it's my best friend finally over doing it and going into cardiac arrest? What if it's my other friend, caught by the cops, in a cop shoot out? It's hard to live like that without having someone to tlak to. And people shouln'dt be berrated and pissed off, for trying.

Alright, in your last post you started swearing and saying we should be giving you advice on how to get to college, now you say you never wanted to go to college (but intend to go anyways), you dont want pity, you just want someone to care... AngelRose, if I didnt care, I wouldnt have posted at all, nor would I have spent a great deal of time thinking of a way to help you get to college. So yes I do care, but I dont pity you, which is what you wanted in the first place.

Lindsay, what I said was meant as a compliment, I know your background as a minister and from how I know you on the forum, your generally a more reseptive person to this sort of situation. There are others like me and lucid who are very blunt at times and do not provide an emotional damper like other people are nice enough to do. Steven Curtis Lance is an all around great guy and ive seen him speak on a very emotional level with people. Empathy, Sympathy are both great qualities and can deepen the connection/bond one has with a person. Lindsay, I hope you didnt take my comments the wrong way, it was meant as a compliment and I was trying to point out a great quality in you. Also, you provide a great deal of useful information too. I just wanted to show angel that not everyone is all sympathetic in the way they say things, you are a bit better at doing that then I am.

Poets are just very intuned to their emotions when they write poetry, so they can put their feelings into words for poeple more easily.

Again AngelRose, if nobody cared, nobody would post, so everyone who has posted... cares, alright? Online Schools are great, you can do them on the internet or you can have them send textbooks to you. Depending on the courses you take, you can even start any time of the year. I do stress that you need to look into some sort of way to get funds to pay for school. If you dont want to do it yourself, then go ask a librarian, they can be extremly helpful people at times.

I know a single mother with two daughters who is making her way through school, she has a student loan from the government so she is able to just take care of her kids and do her school work, without having to get a job.

Honestly, lets break this down into sizable chunks:

1. You cant find a job where you live
2. You dont want to go to college
3. You need to go to college
4. You want to take classes online
5. You dont have any money to pay for college

If you cant get a job and you are not intrested in moving to somewhere - where there is jobs. Then what you need to do Angel Rose, is get yourself a student loan, this should allow you to get a moderate apartment, pay for your classes, without having to get a job - which you cannot do anyways because you cant find one where you live.

Im going to make this really simple and easy to understand. You need money for college, you dont have money... you need to either work or get money elsewhere. You cant get a job where you live so you have two choices:

1. Get a Student Loan/Government Grant or a combination of both and pay for your online classes through that.
2. Move to somewhere you can get a job, pay for online classes through that.

Now if I didnt care, would I have spent all that time writing and thinking of what you can do? of course not. I do care, I just dont pity you. Now if I see you swearing at me in your next post telling me im still not giving you what you want, you dont want to go to college ect. Then I am going to be annoyed, because you stated you need to get into college, I am telling you how to get into college through the online method that you asked for.

Further more, I should point out that depending on how you like to learn, you may enjoy having your courses sent to you through the mail... the reason is you can go at your own pace, if your on a paticularly difficult subject, you can take all the time you need to complete it.

Honestly, I have given you HORDES of useful information, in fact I am such a nice guy I am even going to point you to one university that I know that does a lot of correspondance and online courses. It's the university of pheonix and they do lots and lots of online courses for their students.

http://www.phoenix.edu/online_learning/

Now what next? Okay Angel since I am so nice I am going to walk you through this step by step.

First you go to
http://online.phoenix.edu/RFI/contact.asp?...me=IRP&program=

You fill out the form and hit submit. Then an Admissions Counselor will contact you, they will walk you through how all of that works.

Now as far as paying for schooling goes, you talk to a Financial Advisor, they will discuss government grants, scholarships, student loans ect. and help you to apply for them. There are Financial Advisors for every college and university, so if you apply at the University Of Pheonix, you can speak to one of their Financial Advisors. The Admissions Counselor will talk to you about ways to cover the expenses of your courses so dont worry.

Now the great thing is that these people will help you fill out all the forms, walk you through the entire process and try to make it so it costs you as little as possible.

Warning: Danger! Will Robinson Danger!

Do not post in your reply that I shouldnt be telling you how to get to college or that you want to go to a college online instead of a university or that your not smart enough, ect. You have made it very clear that you intend to go to college or university through online courses. I have spent the past hour finding information on how to do that, if you turn around and give me lip after I worked so hard to help you. Il be damn pissed off.

Now there is also a number you can call (866) 766-0766 To request information. The University of Pheonix does a lot of their teaching online so I think this one could be good for you. Anyways, fill out the form or call them and they will help you to get financial aid and everything, Ive not personally attended the UofP so I cannot vouche for them but it is definatly a good option for you. Ive done all the hard stuff, you just need to fill out a form and you can get started with your schooling! Good Luck.

P.S. If you dont want to attend University of Pheonix Online, thats fine, I hope you find one you do like. I just know that they are well known for their online program.

P.P.S. No more saying I dont care, because I so obviously do.

Damn I wish I knew about Brain Meta when I was looking for online college classes... You are way too helpful~ Maximus, you are my go to guy in the future You wouldn't happen to have an extensive knowledge of tax related info would you? I've got most of the basics figured out, but I could use some good advice. If you have some good accounting knowledge let me know and I will ask away

I like what is happening here. For now, I will call it "COMMUNITY BUILDING". Ah, yes! What an opportunity!

'Community' literally means, a place where we can share our gifts with one another--a kind of enlarged family.

The late Dr. Scott Peck--he was a spiritually-minded psychiatrist--wrote about four levels of community building. As I recall, here is what he said:

1. There are pseudo (false) communities--that is, there are communities where people are superficially polite with one another. Nothing of real value ever happens in pseudo communities; there is no real depth of concern, or attempt at understanding. Unfortunately, most church congregations are like this.

2. Pseudo communites are boring. Worse, they can be the breeding ground of chaos, including violence and crime. Unless leaders are wise enough to really lead, when people become familiar with one another, cliques will form. Individuals will begin to say what they think--often without thinking--and begin to spread malicious gossip and even lies about one another. This can cause such communities, and families to fall into chaos, including murder. The Bible is filled with such stories.

Unless the next step is taken, this can often destroy any community, or family. Second best, it can cause any community to revert, once again, to the pseudo-kind. Thus the cycle of meaningless suffering, pain and death can start all over. Terrorism, anyone?

For those who want authentic community, here is the next step:

3. Emptying--that is, getting it all out in the open, honestly. Very difficult for most of us.

This means community members being ready and willing to be honest enough to come together and to express their honest feelings--the good with the bad--openly. Be aware, this can also cause some members of the community--or the family--to break away and simply go their own ways. In my counseling, I have known of family members who decided to get lost, period. Sometimes--sad but true--this is the best thing possible.

However, if leading members of the community/family are wise, and compassionate, enough, it is possible that the following can be the result:

4. Authentic communities will begin to form. What a wonderful goal.

At this point I will ask: From your point of view, what do you think describes an authentic community? What do you feel are its physical, mental and spiritual qualities? BTW, I have my ideas, but first I want to hear yours?

My knowlege of the tax system is so indepth it is rediculous.

Lindsay, I think that the inner most circle of the Brain Meta community is authentic and the outer most is a false brovado. The people who are active and regular posters are the inner most circle and we all speak fairly openly with each other. The outermost circle is has a lot of bulls**t because people dont know each other as well and are more sensitive to not offending anyone.

Ok first, you're acting all patranizing.. wtf is up with that??? I know ur saying you're helping me, and you are, you really are... I'm just trying to get thru things, and i'm taking it on people. I just get mad when people act like all I want is attention bcuz that's the things that my mother used to say to me, and my "best friend" And that's wat it seemed like you were doing. So i'm sorry if I misentrerprited it wrong.

I do thank you for the help that you gave me with the online colleges, and i'm also looking into the classes with WSU, coz that's thru centrailia college which is only about, two hours from where I live. I'm not sure yet. When I was saying I didnt wanna go to college, it's bcuz it's true. The reason I have to is not only bcuz of being pregnant, it's bcuz my parents and grandparents are making me otherwise i'll just be kicked out again.

Now moving to where a job is, I can't without first having the money to move. I tried to talk my mom into it last night, wrote a whole page worth of convincing arguments, and she still says we can't bcuz of money... I don't know how to convince her to help me have a chance.

I really do thank you for trying to help, and I'm sure it was rude to say that you didn't care, but everytime I hear the some of the things you say I blank back to everyone else who's sayd those things and I get pissed off. You were trying to help, and i'm sorry.

But you wre being patranizing and that did piss me off, but I took a breath, a lot of them actually, and started typing over. Coz it didn't start out well.

I understand people have it worse than me, I get that... Truth is, i'm not asking for all this type of help, and suggestions, and wat-not... I just want someone to listen to me. I mean ur suuggestions were helpful, and I appreciate them, I just really want to be able to talk about anything and have people listen. Like I sayd, my best friend is, idk wats up with her, so don't get to do that anymore...

Damn, that whole thing was rather confusing but... Sorry, I'm on the phone and i'm trying to be nice and say wat I feel and mean.. So sorry

Meh its fine, take my advice and im going to repeat this again to make sure you do it... Get a Student Loan! It will make your life 100x easier and should be able to solve your money problems. If you do get a student loan you can pay for everything with that and you wont have to move.

Posting on BrainMeta, having people read it and expecting them not to post is just something that wont happen. On Brain Meta, if you have a problem with something, you say it - if you have an opinion, you say it... if you happen to have any thought what so ever that crosses your mind and feel like typing, then you say it.

Thats just the way Brain Meta is, you are basically talking to a bunch of philosophers here, we LOVE to argue things to death, to take apart and look at every possible angle that could ever exist for a topic. In other words, remember who your audience is, sometimes we can argue about a single topic for years. We enjoy discussing things and so when you post something of intrest, it will get discussed. Once you have picked which college or university you want, then you should be talking to a financial advisor on how to do so.

P.S. The University of Pheonix has satellite locations all over North America, so there is probably one within a few hours of where you live, check the website.

Max has good advice; take it!
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Thanx. And I will, life is just a little complicated right now. For the last couple years actually. Lot's of stuff going on. I don't really have time for much, but I am going to look into that college, and other's bcuz it is something I need to do.

The bad part is that i'm going to have to do it all by msyelf, not the money part, I get the whole loans financial aid thing, but I mean like... I'm gonna be alone and that sux. It's easier to get thru shit if you know you have someone, or someone there with you. When you're doing it yourself, knowing ur always gonna be alone, makes it harder...

But thanx for the advice ya gave, I will look into it. And I do understand the whole argure about everything. Trust me, i'm that way too. And hell, it's not ya'lls fault that ya havne't heard enuf abot my life to understand how fuckin interesting it is... wat can I say... Sometimes I just don't get into it enuf.

Well you wont be by yourself, you will have an admissions counselor to walk you through it step by step. The only part you have to do alone is filling out a single form and submiting it online and anyone can do that. The second link in post #17 will provide you with the form you need to fill out, even if you dont plan on starting right away, you should at least talk to the admissions office for quality advice.

Angel, in psychology, you can break down human personalities into two groups, those who rely on their own strength and those who rely on the strength of others. Neither one is better nor worse, you obviously have the type of personality that relies on the strength of others.

I do have a suggestion for you though, look for a role model, they can even be fictional characters. In fact, almost all my role models are fictional lol, but that doesnt matter, what matters is when you are having difficulty, you can look to them for strength. So instead of having a person right there beside you - you can rely on someones strength from a distance.

Honestly, ive done things people said were impossible, ive had the odds against me and beaten them every time and I couldnt have done it without my role models. Pick people you want to be like, with traits that you admire, whether they are living or dead. Whats important is the effect they have on you.

You are one of my role models--I just wish I knew more about you You definitely have many admirable traits.

On another note, what is the purpose of filling out a w-9 if the contract is under $600?

Heh, im flattered.

More about me? im mysterious by nature, people were even making up consperacy theories about me, im a mysterious person, thats the way ive always been. Since it would be unrelated to this topic, il start a new one and give some background to my philosophy in life and if your lucky, a bit about me lol.

I'll figure out more about you I just have to do some research...