Hi, new joiner to these forums. You all seem like an intelligent bunch who share my interests. Enough flattery...
I am looking for someone to check out my experiences and see if they have heard of any similar. I've tried a lot of websites and to be honest, this community seems like the best and probably my last stop.
When I was a child, around 4-6 years of age I remember waking to an extraordinary fizzing din. It was scary and actually caused my hairs to stand on end. All I remember is that I could hear and partially see lots of white noise. There were symbols or letters forming and dissipating all the time. I was pretty scared.
The second time it happened I was about 10-12 years of age. I remember the daytime and me and a close friend had been studying German from a phrase book for about 3 hours solid. I can imagine this set it off again. I wake up to the horrible white noise, like a wave of sound and the symbols, writing, scribbling etc. all over my vision. I managed to settle by watching TV in my room. After 5 mins and everything back to normal I turned off the TV and within 2 minutes the noise was back in full effect. I studied what was happening and realised that if I just turned on the radio with no volume the noise and hallucinations went.
I've never had it happen again like that, but I have noticed internal vibratory noises when either lying in bed attempting to sleep or when meditating, although it only happens maybe once or twice a year. It also happens sometimes when I have been smoking cannabis and I am in a quiet place.
I am extremely interested in the brain and psychology, as this experience made me sure in my own mind that perceptions can be changed through frequencies. But does anyone have any idea what happened when I was a kid?
Thanks in advance.
Full Version: Brain frequencies and hallucinatory states.
Intresting, well if your wondering about frequencies inducing hallucionary states, im probably your best bet on BrainMeta, few other people devulge into such a field although there are a couple of em. Anyways first off, all frequencies that can influence your brain waves are not audible, in other words, your ears cannot hear those frequencies. The state most associated with hallucinations is the Alpha State which is 8-12hz and can be induced in a number of ways, the most popular is probably visually or through binaurial beats. You can use BB through a piece of free software at bwgen.com and its fairly simple to use. Okay honestly, there is tons of freesoftware to influence your brainwave states, but how did you get hallucinations as a child? Difficult to say, the exact situation is unknown to me and memories do change overtime, it may have not been influenced by frequencies at all, there are many diffrent ways to hallucinate, but here is the most likely explanation..
If you were just waking up as a child and then experienced these hallucinations I can tell you what happened. During waking your brain moves from its sleep state into its awake state, now inbetween these two states it is very easy to hallucinate, infact some people purposely try to hallucinate while awakening. These experiences can seem vivid and very real, your brain is just inbetween dreaming and being awake, its not uncommon for someone to have hallucinated during that time, but for such a vivid experience it is more uncommon.
If you were just waking up as a child and then experienced these hallucinations I can tell you what happened. During waking your brain moves from its sleep state into its awake state, now inbetween these two states it is very easy to hallucinate, infact some people purposely try to hallucinate while awakening. These experiences can seem vivid and very real, your brain is just inbetween dreaming and being awake, its not uncommon for someone to have hallucinated during that time, but for such a vivid experience it is more uncommon.
Well I know for sure that this was a visual hallucination with an internal vibratory noise. Whatever was happening was stimulating the same area(s) that your ear drum is tied into. Therefore although a frequency doesn't carry an audible sound, surely its possible for it to stimulate auditory receptors?
From my own amateur investigation I believe that the visual hallucination was down to the areas of the brain that handle language becoming excited. Obviously I have no idea how it happened or I would definately be doing practical experiments. I was definately awoken by this experience and was never immobile like some sufferers with sleep paralysis.
The strange thing is that although I have had internal vibrations manifest in meditation and relaxation, I am unable to find anyone who has experienced this during meditation. I'm sure it happens, but my research is a little slow and so finding someone to converse with is difficult.
The thing that really intrigues me is if a T.V. or radio can output frequencies that can dampen effects such as what I've described, what are they doing in our everyday lives? What if when we turn the time back to a place when the world had a lot less invisible bombardment by radio and TV frequencies, states like the one I described become a lot more common? These are all questions unlikely to be fully answered, but ones I like to chew over given my experiences.
I am very interested in religion, evolution and the global conscious and I am currently writing a book about such things. As for hallucinatory states, well I've experimented with a few after a few natural episodes when growing up, purely for my own curiosity, and I believe that underneath this writhing society is a singular consciousness, the same conscious that the Shaman would dip into. Anyway, this is off topic.
I will definately try the link you gave me to frequency software, sounds promising. Thanks!
From my own amateur investigation I believe that the visual hallucination was down to the areas of the brain that handle language becoming excited. Obviously I have no idea how it happened or I would definately be doing practical experiments. I was definately awoken by this experience and was never immobile like some sufferers with sleep paralysis.
The strange thing is that although I have had internal vibrations manifest in meditation and relaxation, I am unable to find anyone who has experienced this during meditation. I'm sure it happens, but my research is a little slow and so finding someone to converse with is difficult.
The thing that really intrigues me is if a T.V. or radio can output frequencies that can dampen effects such as what I've described, what are they doing in our everyday lives? What if when we turn the time back to a place when the world had a lot less invisible bombardment by radio and TV frequencies, states like the one I described become a lot more common? These are all questions unlikely to be fully answered, but ones I like to chew over given my experiences.
I am very interested in religion, evolution and the global conscious and I am currently writing a book about such things. As for hallucinatory states, well I've experimented with a few after a few natural episodes when growing up, purely for my own curiosity, and I believe that underneath this writhing society is a singular consciousness, the same conscious that the Shaman would dip into. Anyway, this is off topic.
I will definately try the link you gave me to frequency software, sounds promising. Thanks!
these internal vibratory noises are usually drug-induced. It's rare to experience them through meditation or otherwise; apparently you have though.
Drug induced, yes I agree, but not in the normal way. DMT is endogenous to the body and that is the most potent (non-delerius) hallucinogen we know of. There are too many chemicals running through your body to just say "its drug induced". I want to know what and how, and since I'd never even drank when my experience happened it wasn't that.
What about Kundalini meditation? There is a book online called "Kundalini-trancedence or psychosis" or something. It describes in the first paragraph about vibratory noises.
What about Kundalini meditation? There is a book online called "Kundalini-trancedence or psychosis" or something. It describes in the first paragraph about vibratory noises.
Erm, internal vibratory noises.. you will notice them when you use BWGen. Also make sure you are not simply mistaking them for something else or hallucinating the noises when you have the visual hallucination..
I don't hallucinate all the time lol, it only happened a couple of times. The only additional thing to happen to me in childhood was perception changes like things seeming as if they're shrinking although never getting smaller, or the top corner of a room looking as if it goes on forever into the distance.
I would not mistake an internal loud vibratory noise for the dustbin truck outside.
I downloaded that BWGen, it seems pretty good. I only tried relaxation though, maybe give it a better shot later.
An EEG, an EEG, my kingdom for an EEG!
I would not mistake an internal loud vibratory noise for the dustbin truck outside.
I downloaded that BWGen, it seems pretty good. I only tried relaxation though, maybe give it a better shot later.
An EEG, an EEG, my kingdom for an EEG!
I am sure that the electricity running through our central nervous system, and our thought processes are linked because we are all in one big system. The fact our evolution is always one of speed and efficiency of both matter and information is exactly what you'd expect if you were looking for continuous development of a pattern.
Our technology is slowly connecting us all together, while our administration systems are being built and torn down until we work out the "correct" and most efficient way to run them. Our relationships with people are the connections within the Gaian mind, all individuals yet all working in teams for specific tasks. We are still in the development phase of these sytems, because the computer technology has only become widespread in the last 20 years.
When our brains are harnessing the forces of polarity, ie electrical frequencies, and our technology is also harnessing this force, and this force can act externally on a persons mind, then this is all the evidence I need to confirm a larger Gaian mind. I have experienced expanded awareness which seems to come in through my sense of sound. The dreaming phase of sleep is in the same frequency range as the magnetic resonance of the Earth. DMT being found in our brains and in many-many species of plant. I believe that lightning, or some other form of electrical disturbance, is responsible for the rise of consciousness. The spark that first created a living proecss from a dead material.
There is nothing artificial about our technology, it is simply the fact we have become the creator, manifesting ideas into reality from our thoughts and personal experience. When people say things are artificial or unnatural, that is only a perception from our point of view. The reality is everything is natural, creations of our own or not.
The point I'm trying to make is I feel I now understand my childhood hallucination, and what I have found is indeed a spiritual path, one that respects almost all religions and one that drives me to use sacraments to communicate with the "self" behind the person.
Our technology is slowly connecting us all together, while our administration systems are being built and torn down until we work out the "correct" and most efficient way to run them. Our relationships with people are the connections within the Gaian mind, all individuals yet all working in teams for specific tasks. We are still in the development phase of these sytems, because the computer technology has only become widespread in the last 20 years.
When our brains are harnessing the forces of polarity, ie electrical frequencies, and our technology is also harnessing this force, and this force can act externally on a persons mind, then this is all the evidence I need to confirm a larger Gaian mind. I have experienced expanded awareness which seems to come in through my sense of sound. The dreaming phase of sleep is in the same frequency range as the magnetic resonance of the Earth. DMT being found in our brains and in many-many species of plant. I believe that lightning, or some other form of electrical disturbance, is responsible for the rise of consciousness. The spark that first created a living proecss from a dead material.
There is nothing artificial about our technology, it is simply the fact we have become the creator, manifesting ideas into reality from our thoughts and personal experience. When people say things are artificial or unnatural, that is only a perception from our point of view. The reality is everything is natural, creations of our own or not.
The point I'm trying to make is I feel I now understand my childhood hallucination, and what I have found is indeed a spiritual path, one that respects almost all religions and one that drives me to use sacraments to communicate with the "self" behind the person.
QUOTE(trojan_libido @ Mar 16, 2007, 02:01 AM) 
I am sure that the electricity running through our central nervous system, and our thought processes are linked because we are all in one big system. The fact our evolution is always one of speed and efficiency of both matter and information is exactly what you'd expect if you were looking for continuous development of a pattern.
Our technology is slowly connecting us all together, while our administration systems are being built and torn down until we work out the "correct" and most efficient way to run them. Our relationships with people are the connections within the Gaian mind, all individuals yet all working in teams for specific tasks. We are still in the development phase of these sytems, because the computer technology has only become widespread in the last 20 years.
When our brains are harnessing the forces of polarity, ie electrical frequencies, and our technology is also harnessing this force, and this force can act externally on a persons mind, then this is all the evidence I need to confirm a larger Gaian mind. I have experienced expanded awareness which seems to come in through my sense of sound. The dreaming phase of sleep is in the same frequency range as the magnetic resonance of the Earth. DMT being found in our brains and in many-many species of plant. I believe that lightning, or some other form of electrical disturbance, is responsible for the rise of consciousness. The spark that first created a living proecss from a dead material.
There is nothing artificial about our technology, it is simply the fact we have become the creator, manifesting ideas into reality from our thoughts and personal experience. When people say things are artificial or unnatural, that is only a perception from our point of view. The reality is everything is natural, creations of our own or not.
The point I'm trying to make is I feel I now understand my childhood hallucination, and what I have found is indeed a spiritual path, one that respects almost all religions and one that drives me to use sacraments to communicate with the "self" behind the person.
Good topic,
What does sacraments mean?
Thank you,
Tim
QUOTE(Tim4848 @ Apr 30, 2007, 10:31 PM)
What does sacraments mean?
Tim, go to http://www.google.com. When you get to that page, type "define:sacraments."
trojan your post interested me, I,ve had experience with perceptional changes I would agree that drug induced causes seem most fit however I have had several experiences of feeling larger and or smaller than the environment, I've noticed that with deeper introspection that it seems to stimulate them however by far the most lucid of occasions had occured under the influence of salvia. It is a legal drug and only lasts anywhere up to three minutes, The first of which was an extract at 10%, this caused me to experience an internal reality similar to a hellish nighmare in a funhouse, I was stuck to an infinite number of myself and could not prove my originality until i saw a window about 15ft ahead of I tryed to get to it and "woke up" a minute later in an ingroven window (basement) hole about four feet deep hurt myself but didn't feel a thing, At the same time at which this was happening I was apparently talking to my friend gave him a sort of creepy look and tried to step on to a stick stick in the garden about 3ft away and above the hole I fell into. It makes you wonder whos really in control!
Anyways I've also tried prolonged meditation and whitenoise sublimation and have also had white noise hallutcinations similar to what you've seen actually though even on a daily basis I see "orbs" mostly white but the occasional black even while pissing lol so when trying to diagnose yourself remember theirs more going on in around us then the dictionary can provide interpretation of .
Anyways I've also tried prolonged meditation and whitenoise sublimation and have also had white noise hallutcinations similar to what you've seen actually though even on a daily basis I see "orbs" mostly white but the occasional black even while pissing lol so when trying to diagnose yourself remember theirs more going on in around us then the dictionary can provide interpretation of .
Trojan, I believe I know what happened to you, because I actually have the same problem. I am not sure, but I believe that when you were even younger you may have heard a "story". Like I said, I do not know for sure but I have the exact same problem. Except for mine is worse than yours. I get the same problem every month. I heard a "story" and I shall never forget it either. I mean, every time I go to bed, I start getting the "sweats". I hope that you feel better. Thank-you for letting me get the chance to talk to someone who has the same "problem" as myself.
@Gregor: This was without the use of any drugs, I was only a small child and its this experience which peaked my interest in the human mind and associated experiences.
@Nikki: I'm not sure what you mean by a 'story'. Can you elaborate a little?
I've never felt bad for my experiences, except the initial panic, only curious. Coincidence and some fine web surfing made me come across a disease/illness/passing phase called micropsia:
@Nikki: I'm not sure what you mean by a 'story'. Can you elaborate a little?
I've never felt bad for my experiences, except the initial panic, only curious. Coincidence and some fine web surfing made me come across a disease/illness/passing phase called micropsia:
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Alice in Wonderland syndrome (AIWS), or micropsia, is a disorienting neurological condition which affects human visual perception.
An illustration by John Tenniel of Alice rapidly growing. Subjects perceive humans, parts of humans, animals, and inanimate objects as substantially smaller than in reality. Generally, the object perceived appears far away or extremely close at the same time. For example, a family pet, such as a dog, may appear the size of a mouse, or a normal car may look shrunk to scale. This leads to another name for the condition, Lilliput sight or Lilliputian hallucinations, named after the small people in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels. The condition is in terms of perception only; the mechanics of the eye are not affected, only the brain's interpretation of information passed from the eyes.
The syndrome is associated with, and perhaps in part caused by, the classical migraine headache. Occasionally, Alice in Wonderland syndrome is named as one of the first symptoms of mononucleosis. Micropsia can also be caused by complex partial epilepsy, and the actions of various psychoactive drugs (notably dextromethorphan).
Small children, usually between the ages of five and ten, form a large proportion of those afflicted by spontaneous temporary micropsia.Micropsia tends to occur during darkness, when the brain lacks visual size references.
Micropsia not only affects visual perception, but also one's hearing, sense of touch, and sometimes one's own body image; the syndrome continues even when the eyes are closed. Peripheral symptoms include anxiety, apraxia, and agnosia. Micropsia is also commonly related to patients suffering schizophrenia.
The disorder is named after Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, where the title character experiences many situations similar to those of micropsia and macropsia. Because Lewis Carroll recorded at least one episode of classical migraine, scholars have speculated that he may have experienced this syndrome himself.
An illustration by John Tenniel of Alice rapidly growing. Subjects perceive humans, parts of humans, animals, and inanimate objects as substantially smaller than in reality. Generally, the object perceived appears far away or extremely close at the same time. For example, a family pet, such as a dog, may appear the size of a mouse, or a normal car may look shrunk to scale. This leads to another name for the condition, Lilliput sight or Lilliputian hallucinations, named after the small people in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels. The condition is in terms of perception only; the mechanics of the eye are not affected, only the brain's interpretation of information passed from the eyes.
The syndrome is associated with, and perhaps in part caused by, the classical migraine headache. Occasionally, Alice in Wonderland syndrome is named as one of the first symptoms of mononucleosis. Micropsia can also be caused by complex partial epilepsy, and the actions of various psychoactive drugs (notably dextromethorphan).
Small children, usually between the ages of five and ten, form a large proportion of those afflicted by spontaneous temporary micropsia.Micropsia tends to occur during darkness, when the brain lacks visual size references.
Micropsia not only affects visual perception, but also one's hearing, sense of touch, and sometimes one's own body image; the syndrome continues even when the eyes are closed. Peripheral symptoms include anxiety, apraxia, and agnosia. Micropsia is also commonly related to patients suffering schizophrenia.
The disorder is named after Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, where the title character experiences many situations similar to those of micropsia and macropsia. Because Lewis Carroll recorded at least one episode of classical migraine, scholars have speculated that he may have experienced this syndrome himself.
Hello I have just joined.
I would like to know if anyone knows what this is all about. On many occasions when I wake up I see what look to be real people, animals or objects and then on re closing my eyes they dissapear. I have just woken from a nap and saw three entwined spiders, the long legged fragile house type, which on closing and reopening my eyes dissapear. As a child I remember seeing an old medieval apothacryst with a container of bubbling liqued and a women looking over his shoulder. All the hairs on the back of my neck raised and i hid under the covers. I looked out again but they were still there... three times I did this and then they dissapeared ... neadless to say I ran from the house to my sister nearby. Many occasions since then i have seen things. I moved into a house in Brittany France one time I awoke to see a farmer type with a rope and I guessed he was looking for his pigs which used to be at the back of the house. My partner at that time also saw a man in the corner of the room ... she thought it was me and then saw I was still in bed. This has happened many times in various places and always on wakening. Has anyone any ideas as to what is going on .... is it hallucinations or something else. They suprise me now but I know they go away and are not physically there but they look very real when I see them.
I would like to know if anyone knows what this is all about. On many occasions when I wake up I see what look to be real people, animals or objects and then on re closing my eyes they dissapear. I have just woken from a nap and saw three entwined spiders, the long legged fragile house type, which on closing and reopening my eyes dissapear. As a child I remember seeing an old medieval apothacryst with a container of bubbling liqued and a women looking over his shoulder. All the hairs on the back of my neck raised and i hid under the covers. I looked out again but they were still there... three times I did this and then they dissapeared ... neadless to say I ran from the house to my sister nearby. Many occasions since then i have seen things. I moved into a house in Brittany France one time I awoke to see a farmer type with a rope and I guessed he was looking for his pigs which used to be at the back of the house. My partner at that time also saw a man in the corner of the room ... she thought it was me and then saw I was still in bed. This has happened many times in various places and always on wakening. Has anyone any ideas as to what is going on .... is it hallucinations or something else. They suprise me now but I know they go away and are not physically there but they look very real when I see them.
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