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Darksanity
I would like to know if anyone here had tried D-Phenylalanine (Phenylethylamine precursor wich is said to helps maintain focus, concentration, mood, alertness and effortful attention) and if it worth it?

I would also like to know if Tianeptine (Stablon) will have a clear effect when taking it for the first time or it will have gradual effect and needs to be taken everyday? Can you use it only occasionnaly?
lucid_dream
i'm not sure about D-Phenylalanine, but L-Phenylalanine is a part of aspartame found in diet soft drinks. I've never heard of people supplementing with D-Phenylalanine.
LifeMirage
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I would like to know if anyone here had tried D-Phenylalanine (Phenylethylamine precursor wich is said to helps maintain focus, concentration, mood, alertness and effortful attention) and if it worth it?


At high doses of 2-3 Grams i noticed a mild effect on the above mentioned areas but it did not seem to last very long.
Hey Hey
With information like:

"What is D-Phenylalanine? It is the dextrorotatory form of the amino acid Phenylalanine. The L-forms (levorotatory) of amino acids are ones that are bioavailable and are for protein synthesis and regulatory function. The L and D forms are like mirror images of one another, however the D-Phenylalanine is not absorbed into the body, but acts as an inhibiting agent to the enzymes that are responsible for the breakdown of endorphins, which control pain perception." (http://www.thecompounder.com/dphenylalanine.html)

... I should be careful to believe anything that is associated with a commercial supplier.
Darksanity
WHat about Tianeptine?
Abolitionist
QUOTE(Darksanity @ Sep 17, 2006, 04:44 PM) *

WHat about Tianeptine?


Selegiline can be combined with DL-Phenylalanine to potentiates it's effects. Selegiline will help prevent the degradation of PEA.
Darksanity
QUOTE(Abolitionist @ Sep 18, 2006, 05:55 AM) *

QUOTE(Darksanity @ Sep 17, 2006, 04:44 PM) *

WHat about Tianeptine?


Selegiline can be combined with DL-Phenylalanine to potentiates it's effects. Selegiline will help prevent the degradation of PEA.


I'm talking about Tianeptine (brand-name Stablon) a new anti-deprressant with Nootropic qualities.
Darksanity
Is there a big difference (in terms of effects) between D-Phenylalanine and PEA (PhenylEthylAmine) ?
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