Saw some posts on this. But no main topics. This is supposed to be like caffeine without the letdown. Actually heard someone mention this who I wouldn't call a transhuman. May be the one drug that has enticed the masses to take it with a transhumanistic indication.

It's a tightly controlled drug that is illegal without a prescription and has zero nootropic benefit.

It can be good if ur a caffeine/coffee addict.

Zero nootropic? It fits the term in every single way.

He means it will not improve your cognitive performance... It will do what it's supposed to - keep u awake.

Addictive, illegal, and has none of the important neurochemical effects most true nootropics have. The only people who recommend and take it are looking for a quick fix.......they will be disappointed.

OK, it is available from a web source that I know delivers. I won't say what it is--but if you look, you can get it. It's actually older, and off patent. And it is not illegal. It is scheduled--but not completely illegal.

Schedule IV. First Offense: Not more than 3 years. Fine not more than $250,000 if an individual, $1 million if not an individual.

It's listed under methylphenidate on the DEA's website.

Also if they confirm you ordered it online it is a felony.

Well, I won't be taking this unless I get prescribed. The police are your friends, remember. Obey the law.

are you sure you've got this right? Provigil?
That seems ridiculously harsh.

Also, I'm surprised LifeMirage doesn't like the sound of it - I would have thought he'd be all for that sort of thing.
I know someone who's been taking it for over a year. It doesn't seem to be addictive, he can start and stop at will.
He let me have one of his pills. I lives up to it's rep - awakening, but not overstimulating (for me at 100mg).

And I thought Methylphenidate was a Schedule II (eg. Ritalin), which does have abuse potential.
If Modafinil is Schedule IV then the DEA is as much a joke as the FDA.

And as for the law - as arbitrary as those who create it, Cybert? Or perhaps you think the FDA's alright.

Fancy controlled stimulants don't impress me. I care far more about the exact effects these compounds have on the the factors and causes of brain aging and cognition.

Wait, you guys are talking about Provigil? If you are I have been taking it as prescribed (for real) by my doctor for narcolepsy for the past almost nine months with no ill effects thus far (and no mind-expanding effects). I take 100 mg a day everyday. It helps me stay awake... that's about it. And I still get pretty tired, actually. In the beginning I noticed a slight effect but I don't even notice it anymore. The staying awake is helpful though, considering for a number of years I was misdiagnosed and slept CONSTANTLY. While I still sleep more than normal people I'm much better. I would definitely appreciate anything you guys have to say about it though, I don't want to be taking anything that's having a horrible effect on me or anything. Thanks!

If you have a health condition that is being treated by this drug and you are not experiencing any major side effects then I would continue to take it.

I was also wondering how you guys felt about wellbutrin since I saw it in a few lists...

I was prescribed it and I felt that it worked fairly well, but then I started to feel better from the combination of provigil and summer so I stopped taking it (with doctor's okay). Now winter is on the way, though and I am starting to wonder if I shouldn't go back on it. I experience some minor side effects in the beginning of taking it but they fairly quickly subside.

I think being able to stay away is very mind-expanding. In fact, to me, losing a third of my day sleeping (although I don't know about it when it happens) to be one of the most limiting factors on my life.

I'm still surprised LifeMirage doesn't like it, because, although it may not affect brain aging, if it doesn't increase aging/wear, you could have a lot more life for the same aging...
And considering how powerful the effect, I would have thought cognition is relevant - how tired you are (feel) has a massive effect on cognition - although you may meen that in a philisophical sense (?).

I'm also surprised as indications show that it's more healthy than caffeine (less negative effects...), so unless LifeMirage sees other benefits in caffeine, would think 15mg provigil after lunch be a better choice for most people who drink coffee as a stimulant.


BornaDreamer:
I hear a lot of people sleep better at night by taking it during the day as well. I don't know, but I would take a break on those days you don't mind losing.

Do you take wellbutrin xl for depression? Sounds like it if summer is an issue. Risk of seizures... There are far better ways to treat depression.

Yeah, for depression. I'm fine right now, I just am not quite as good as I was in the summer and I know I usually get worse as we get into winter. Seasonal Affective probably, I know. Any recommendations on other treatments? I hear those light things are a good idea?

well, I know someone who swears by EPA Omega 3.
Light boxes didn't work so well for him, but the do for some peope I hear

I don't quite understand this. Methylphenidate is Ritalin, not Modafinil. In the UK, Modafinil is not listed as controlled, but Methyphenidate is a class B controlled substance, does anyone know what this means for Modafinil? I assumed it was not controlled (by name it isn't listed), and a 3 month supply was allowed to be imported for personal use.

I said under not as. See the website.



I would not import it unless you want to get arrested.

I have read the website, but I dont understand why Modafinil is classed under Methylphenidate.

Btw, I live in the UK, so when I Say:



I mean in UK legislation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_Drugs_Act_1971

I'm aware. However I would still recommend avoiding it unless you have a medical condition that may benefit from it.