By the way, has anyone even bothered to click on the original link posted in the opening of this thread by Hey Hey?
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Check it out. The link as a topic starter is no longer in topic with this thread.

Those bastards!!!

Ya gotta love life...

Everytime someone posts new information into this or any other post, you come back with a "God is beyond experience, beyond the infinite" or some other tripe. You believe in a God, you are a fool sir. The experience of "God" is grounded in biology, we feel it at times because of chemicals in the brain and certain experiences. You just derail everything thats said. You are so far up your own arse its unreal, you barely add to any subject other than to sound off like your the new Krishna. You are not enlightened, you are not even well informed, you sir are a cock. I'm going to leave Brainmeta because for one, theres not enough activity on this forum, and two, I 'd have to put up with you.

I dont think anyone here

Please Rick, before I go, what exactly do you find interesting in Joesus "there is no spoon" chat? If he was so open minded, why wouldnt he give an opinion on anything other than everyone elses "Ego" and "illusion". Its completely F**KING ridiculous. Theres too much pompous behaviour on this board, and its no wonder its dead.

Goodbye to all.

Dear Trojan, please stay on forum. I promise I will regulate the matter over the Atlantic within 4-5 days. I give you the word of Enki that I will do that.

To Joesus,

Certain rules of engagement can be derived from humble opinions of frequent forum members.
Disagreement and causing linguistic irritation are quite different things.
The phrase “Fucked this Topic� was used to draw your SPECIAL attention to great level of irritation caused by your specific style of ‘philosophic’ spamming.
The parties should not be annoyed. Besides that we here know very well the true price and power of the language and how stylistic affects on the brain of a reader. We do not like when someone applies style bringing to Neuro Linguistic Dumping of brain activities of readers leading them astray from interesting topics.
Besides that the Truth is a matter of debate, and for people sharing Greco-Roman-British culture the debate has it own culture.
Now I understand why Hey Hey got so angry!

I want to warn you that sometimes the distance does not matter Joesus, if you do not understand the polite approach and colloquial funny remarks made by man to man, and your activities result in dumping of active members of the Brain Meta, then I will strongly recommend you to be very careful in your meditation practices in the coming future. It is a very serious warning to you on my behalf. Hope the coming experience will enrich your understanding of the Truth.

Take care,
Enki

From this discussions one can understand why Jesus Christ was crucified: he failed to express his ideas on proper Hebrew and Aramaic, irritated educated listeners and caused some significant hatred towards his personality among certain community sharing certain ontology, culture and values of intelligent theological, esoteric and metaphysical discourse. Later on his good ideas were converted into aggressive memes by uncouth Pitter and Paul and were spread worldwide resulting in destruction of the Roman Empire, Burning of Alexandrian Library and Inquisition of the Dark Middle Ages till the Hermetic wisdom of the God of Israel, Egypt and Sumer & Accad purified the ideas revealing elements of the true wisdom of the Jesus to the Enlightened Community, thus nearing the bright days when the doors of the Invisible College were opened and the Royal Society was created.

Actually God cannot fail. People fail themselves, by their inability to comprehend reality beyond the personal opinions created by belief.
The educated listeners, or the Pharisees of the times could not stand to have their group control weakened and as a result manipulated the innocent through fear, and killed Jesus to remove the threat.
This seems to be the trend of the dark forces of the universe, to destroy anything that threatens their sovereignty.

Threats are really childish Enki. Tho you may believe in your magic and your ability to venerate righteousness I think you'll find that the end results are more than what you would have suspected.

Joesus your avatar is very fitting to your posts... I will leave it at that.

Yes it is I suppose.
Life is all about choice and what we choose to let rule us inside is what is always reflected on the outside.

Personally I thought the avatar was just plain funny.
Geographically the two species don't live in the same part of the world.
Psychologically I suppose the prey disturbing the predator to me represents the little voice or almost silent voice of the ever present heart, often ignored by the loud voice of the intellect and conditioning.
Its only when the ego sleeps that the heart seems to be present and tangible.
Like Maslows peak experience where reason is left behind for the pure experience of being, the awakening can be shocking to the intellect that is so conditioned to its icons.

But I suppose not everyone sees it the way I do.

On behalf of the neutral forces of the Universe [ ] I once again want to underline that if things continue in this way as they are you will discover for yourself presence of the Neutral Side of the Force which Mr. Lucas failed to describe in his epic Star Wars. The 'end results' will be much more specific and funny for you than you can imagine Joesus.

"Those days are unknown to me and to the angels, and only the God knows when that time will come." Jesus Christ

So there are things which even Jesus does not know. I mean that there is a bigger boss much wiser.

The true God cannot fail in long run perspective, in short run perspective situation fluctuates. The 1/f noise case Joesus. God's unlimited power dwells in the low-frequency region: as long the processes are so powerful He/She is concerning the destinies of certain events. So, anyway, the other parties have some certain restricted period of time for their game till the Great Wave will fully implement the true will of the great wisdom. If people master by their free will to boost the correlation, then the period needed to God to overcome things will shorten and that will serve to goodness of all creatures.

Besides rules can change in time, past can be mixed with the future. Proteus Operation by James P. Hogan.

The end result of the infinite possibilities are open to the choices people make in creating evolution. God is not a finite book, this I know.

I have complete faith that everything is always in order. Even Now as they are.
One can either engage themselves in the present, or be a victim.


When Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." He never said he was the Father.
Even when he said,"Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." He was making reference to something higher than the individual experience.


Free will in alignment with the highest always prevails when the wheat and chaff are separated.

Jesus was also called "The destroyer"
Being that he wasn't afraid to offend the intellectuals who had completely removed themselves from the Truth of the most high he often irritated them in full knowledge that they would try to kill the messenger to prevent the message from taking hold.
Unfortunately those who believed themselves most righteous lost their grip in the control of the masses in ritual belief, by killing the messenger. I was after his death that people began to look within themselves for the answers to Truth rather than to rely on the voodoo tactics of people who would spell out futures of gloom and doom by using fear tactics to spin their minds around.
The Pharisees would often speak of their power through their connection to God to know Gods thoughts and when God was angry. They would spin stories of the end of time when God would make amends for their inappropriate behavior.



That would be a fact when it comes to those who are still living the same scenarios lifetime after lifetime because they never wish to move beyond their delusions.


Some things/souls seem to never change.

indeed

How funny...

Dear Rick,

Does very proactive preaching of a same theological approach leading to irritation of the forum members acceptable on forum with scientific rather than religious inclinations?
Please clarify your position.

Can you also please ask Joesus on your behalf to withstand from constant preaching and subliminal inclination to derail important topics?

It looks like that passive position of the moderators in matter related with Joesus writing stylistics offended such active members of the forum as Hey Hey and Trojan.
I think that matter should be regulated. Someone should write to Hey Hey and Trojan asking them to return. Those who maintain the forum, in my opinion, should regulate the misunderstandings as soon as possible.

Bests,
Enki

So you are destroying the forum, right?

It is called Christian Fundamentalism.

I doubt that would be possible.

Maybe it's evolving, and those that aren't ready to evolve with it are falling away.

Ahh the BM gossip column... I think it is about time for some moderating. There are 10 pages of posts, but very little to do with psychedelics.

But very much to do with expanding consciousness.

There is more to life than black and white thinking.

And much more to this forum than me and the threads I visit.
(Contrary to the dramatic interpretation of the Dramatica)

Such statements are manifestation of extra level of disrespect.

The forum is not a place for Pokemon’s evolution.

Hope you are not keeping the mood of Dr. Jack von Hamsterviel Joesus?

No? It is ground for the continuing evolution of human development and conscious awareness I think.
Or it could be a chat room for cliques or trendy beliefs where segregation of input is encouraged by certain headstrong individuals who wish to manipulate subject matter to be exclusive to ones own ideas

Generally speaking if someone is in disagreement, then either they become aware of it and work within the field of recognition or they build walls to keep out the opposing thought and or retreat from the field of comprehension to label it as evil or destructive.

If I don't see potential as being disrespectful, then I guess it would be a matter of perspective.

Latest observation is that Trojan Libido saw this as a debating ground, but left because rules of engagement didn't fit his bill.

Now you see me as a cartoon villain and believe the cartoon is so real you want the moderators to change the program so you won't have to watch.

I guess I just don't see the world the same way you do.

I mentioned the Pokemon’s evolution and made a remark about Dr. Jack von Hamsterviel to help you to understand quite complex things.

Dianah made for you very important comments above Joesus, you should pay attention to her wise words.

I just hope that you will understand why Hey Hey and Trojan got so irritated over your style and method of discourse.

If you implement that style intentionally following some certain tactics, then soon you will make new discoveries about some properties of Narnia.

I think if you live in a complex world it would be a handicap to living in simplicity.
Rather than seeing what comes to you in judgment, you should see it as a gift for your growth in conscious awareness?
That would make me less of a threat or a nuisance and more of a gift, to you, HH and TL. And all of you a gift for my growth as well.
In that I think a gift should be explored rather than treated as a nuisance.

It's not important really. I think if I worry about what others think about me I would be less of who I am and more of what everyone expects me to be. I think that is a state of psychosis most people suffer from.
It would seem that everyone thinks they are victims to reality, rather than creators of their reality.

I think you see things coming at you rather than as something you are in conscious connection to. You keep saying I intentionally implement some style that contain certain tactics. I also think you see something you want/need to see. I haven't come here to destroy this forum as you might believe I could.
You might try wearing some hematite to help ground you a little more, rather than float around in the world of pokemon and Narnia.
Conspiracy theories based on exalted perceptions can be extremely distracting.

When simple things are intentionally converted into complex issues meshing the true outlook of an image into complex pattern leading rather to Neuro Linguistic Dumping of mental activities of a viewer (reader) rather than to proper and fast apprehension of the key ideas expressed and mutual data bases enrichment, then the usage of word IF in this context is a behaviour of extra amoral degree.



It is the question you should ask to yourself.



Very soon I will conduct in depth exploration of you and your gifts, be sure...



No, a proper and educated person should have manners and respect others opinion and tastes as well. Your pompous writings irritate people. People come here to communicate with each other, get satisfaction of communication with interesting people, enrich their knowledge and talk about cabbages and kings, they do not like when topics are polluted with fogy mnemonic texts affecting on their brains, mood and temper.



I see. You are a righteous boy and Hey Hey, Trojan and I are morons not respecting your shiny ideas to such an extent that two of us already leaved the forum because of you!



Really a Hematite protecting from Elves, whau. You know Joesus, even do not try to throw a glove to the Invisible World.

I am warning you for the last time asking you to respect opinions of the other people.

Trojan_libido, everyone has their own viewpoints. Some people are easier to convince and sway than others. That's Life. You're not going to win everyone over. The best you can do is express your own beliefs and viewpoints, and let others do what they will.

I think part of the value of Joesus' posts is that he continuously brings us back to the 'mystical', to that which our naturalistic theories do not encapsulate, and is a constant reminder that our theories do not explain everything, that there are limits to what we can express to others, and that we should not identify ourselves with these limitations.

People naturally absorb what is eternal and make that part of their lives.
Any dumping, or mental images which vanish in the disturbance of activity, are images that are fabricated from illusion and images they would intentionally replace of their own accord.
But in much simpler terms. People create their own reality, they draw to themselves experience, and in those experiences all mental images in which to facilitate that experience.
In this case any amoral activity is solely due to the inability to reduce activity to its simplest idea.
This is how God created the devil in symbolic terms. One takes the simple Truth and makes it into a complicated matter and then divides matter into subjective and objective experiences that can be invaded.
In any case one simply need let go of any mental images of conflict and take the awareness to that which unites all things and all scenarios. In that light there is nothing evil or conflicting or threating in any way.

Eventually one stops asking that question and lives it.
Then there is nothing one faces that is foreign or separate. That however doesn't preclude the activity around ones self from continuing to display remnants of suicidal tendencies and ignorance.
Which is why Jesus hung from the cross.

No no no, you're looking at it backwards.
The one who interprets reality is the one who is creating it in the first place. It's all based on interpretation or in this case, possibly the lack of.
Take a crowd of people who witness an event, and each through their own ability to comprehend will experience the event differently. It is the witnesser who has created the event through interpretation. In other words this sentence: "Rather than seeing what comes to you in judgment, you should see it as a gift for your growth in conscious awareness?" represents the introspective awareness of self interpretation and the lead to discovery of the self.
Are we our thoughts and experiences, or as our thoughts and experiences change are we change itself?
Those who believe they are their thoughts and experiences would believe they are anger, jealousy, fear etc.etc.
However in the pride that has risen in the reality of the ego one denies the attributes that are judged and makes adjustments in awareness to create faults in objects of perception, making them (objects of perception) the cause of judgment and experience, rather than taking responsibility themselves for making assumptions based on ignorance and separation of the experience and experiencer.
I am not the bearer of gifts, You are giving yourself the gifts always and it is those things or objects you see as separate that are the gifts to integrate your fractured identities into the whole you.

A properly educated person does not take responsibility for how another thinks or interprets life. As such one does not have to live from fear or co-dependence, tiptoeing through life fearing to upset another. Everyone has the ability to freely think and express but they fear that ability will take away another's ability to freely interpret reality.
So in this fear, people who are uneducated in this reality fear to speak their minds because they think it might upset another, and so they stuff their own feelings and ideas in favor of starting something they cannot control.
A properly educated person always takes everything in as their own creation, and as such is not moved by judgment toward ones outer world when the inner becomes the outer.

Exactly but what they don't like, is what exists inside of themselves. When that is brought to the surface they blame the outside circumstances. In an attempt to control the circumstance they forget that their communication has been made into shallow creeping foot steps to not disturb what is laying dormant within themselves. This ego then attempts to validate union with the outside world in like mindedness and agreement rather than at the depths of their being.
This then creates division in politics and spirituality. Humans separate themselves according to their beliefs and their lines in the sand, ever on the defensive for those who would seem to be able to disturb their castles made of sand.


Apparently HH TL and you feel that your opinions could be threatened by another and as a result are seeking to fight for your right to feel that way.

I'm not attempting to shut out the invisible worlds, only reminding you that if you continue to be distracted by the invisible, you won't fully appreciate the visible.
I find that those who identify with their celestial selves have an aversion to this world, and as such have a hard time staying present in this reality, which they created to learn how to become less distracted by shiny objects and adversely conditioned to what lies dormant within.


Your warnings only come at the expense of your own extended inability to comprehend your connection to those of whom you separate yourself.
Learn to respect yourself in those others who you see as separate and expand yourself beyond the shiny identity with Eridug. You are much more than that.

You even do not know who am I, and at the same time you try and dare to teach me life, philosophy and religion; you even dare to preach like a mentor.

I suggest to stop the discussion. And please, do not ignore my warning. I am not joking, I am very serious. I have been too tolerant to many parties for very, very, very long period of time, but things and times are changing.

As I see Lucid_dream the preservation of the active logo Joesus is of extreme importance. Right?

Even do not hope that the desired miracle (effect) will happen (reemerge) without good will of the true Lord.

Cursory esoteric comment (as I see some value that approach)

There are rumors that The Sleeping God wants to shake up and throw down to the ground the bunch of some guys sitting on his shoulders and climbed on his head and wake up.
Just try to imagine the consequences of that historic event.

I doubt that you would be open to anything more than what you already know and so the idea of teaching you something never crossed my mind. I would dare to express myself to that affect regardless of your position.

yeah, now that you mention it..

The feminine generally rudders and the masculine is the oar.
On occasion we can switch roles without changing clothes. It'd be a matter of surrender.

It was such a nice topic about Mashrooms and it is now fully derailed.

There is a great desire to sing the following song:
"So for the sake of the Forum this Joesus must dump ..."

that is a good saying, will keep it in mind

I would like to see Joesus come to the shroomery.org forums and spill his preachings there, and see them get ripped to pieces (all for the good).

When it comes to annoying barking dogs, the best thing to do IMO is avoid. It's the only thing you can do, and it will save a lot of energy.

I see so many people talk and talk and talk like they know and experience the deepest connection and harmony in life. What I fail to see is Joesus lack of connection to the other members on this forum. That is not harmony and that is not spirituality, that is the mind playing tricks.

The connection between people is not in the external pleasantries but in the deeper connection that plays a part in the growth of consciousness.
If someone is clear about their intentions then they are not required to capitulate to the flow of the majority.

Your desire to watch me be torn to shreds is a good example of how connecting with another doesn't have to be through sentiment or like-minded-ness.
If you could ignore me you wouldn't be harboring violent thoughts toward what you want to see destroyed, and so you have connected to something you experience in me that is a part of you. That is what is called reflection.

As you probably know already God is connected to everything, yet people still desire to see what they want to see in a god that is united on the outside in mutual agreement or a false harmony that protects the senses from being disturbed. So they create religions where they tear people to shreds, even put them to death for attempting to think differently. All in the name of what they call spirituality.

Besides, I never preach.

What's "educational" in these dialogues is the revealing nature of the reactions of the personalities. More circumspection and less emotional reaction would lead to more light and less heat in the discussion.

As you probably have observed, I enjoy thinking about philosophy, including philosophy of religion. Therefore, I find that Buddhist philosophy is interesting, and if you read closely, you will see that Joesus' philosophy and attitude has a lot of resemblance to some types of Buddhism.

For that viewpoint, the "non-game" approach is everything, and it (the conflict) can't be "gamed." That is, a non-game can't be won or lost. Therein lies some humor, or at least irony.

If your really invested then there is a need to win. If your not then there is just the game.

Someone once said the meaning of life is not in the end result, but in the journey.

But it's not just a Buddhist philosophy.

Another irony is that psychedelics in strong doses result in temporary ego death. Those familiar with the state should have no problem observing themselves getting wrapped up in a game, which might lead to laughter.

You caught that eh?

Thankyou, I need reminding of it every now and then; especially when I've not been doing the practice that I should be doing.

Protection of the forum from religious maniacs and narcotic addicted people is an important option.

Ah finally, a man of reason, very insightful post Rick.

Thanks, Max. I thought yesterday's Dilbert cartoon was very timely, so I reproduce it here:



This humerous interlude is actually "on topic" as shown here:

1. Topic originates on theme that mushroom (and, by implication, any "entheogen") ingestion can lead to authentic religious experience (a controversial conclusion).

2. Counter opinion is expressed to the effect that psychedelic experience is like taking a picture from a fast moving car and thinking reality has been captured.

3. Opinion is further expressed that union with the ultimate can be best achieved without chemical augmentation.

4. Several strident protests ensue to the effect that the thread is being hijacked by a know-nothing interloper intent on ramming his opinions down everyone's throats.

5. Evidence is presented that the discussion is actually constructive, in its way.

6. Passions cool somewhat and the dynamic of the thread is shown to have relevance to the topic (entheogenic personal transformation).

7. The (newly realized on-topic) dynamic of the thread is illustrated with a cartoon.

I have a practical question: can I grow those magical mushrooms at room and where I can buy the seeds? Any links?

I would like to refresh the topic if I may, concerning God and magic mushrooms. I've read and skimmed through most of the 11 pages of posts, and seeing now it has sort of trailed off, I'm interested in redirecting the conversation back to where it started.

I myself have a long history both of God and magic mushrooms. I wasn't raised in church, but I did put my faith in Jesus Christ at the age of 16. Before then I'd experienced magic mushrooms, and even after then there was a period of about a month that I really acquainted myself with the effects of psilocybin.

Before I get into the subject, I want to say how important, I think, a man's whole life is when speaking about life's issues when they have spiritual import. I am very curious of some of your lives. A man may sound wise, right? he may talk like he is convinced of the truth. But when you look into his life, the way he lives, the way he interacts with people, friends, family, strangers, in the countless relationships that come his way in life, his character is exposed and THAT is who the person is and how well he really knows God. I say this because it is so easy to talk like we get the truth when we're on our computers. And that's because we're naturally hidden and we know it.

Now for the subject. Since the headline itself presupposes many different assumptions, I would like to presume in my statements just to be fair.

God, who dwelt fully in the Lord Jesus Christ, clearly exists apart from you or I, magic mushrooms and everything. He is holy, outside of time and space, the eternal and everlasting God. He created all things and nothing was made that wasn't made by him. Everything is from him, through him, for him, and to him.

If he is in the magic mushrooms all over the world, well, he may be in some way, as he created them, as they exist in him, and by him they consist, but in the direct sense we can be sure he isn't. Hard to give an account for your life to a God who is in everything.

Magic mushrooms do expand consciousness. It causes the individual to see and think in universal terms. But the glory of God is man fully alive. For me, expanding consciousness isn't a term I want for my life nor my children's lives'. Yet alive is.

The Apostle Paul was captivated by the Son of God "who loved me and gave himself for me." He counted all his religious credentials as "dung for the excellency of the knowledge of the Son of God." Paul wanted Christ, to suffer with him, to walk in his resurrection, and to be raised with him one day. Like Peter, he loved Christ.

So Paul said, "If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus, let him be anathema. The Lord comes! The grace of the Lord Jesus be with you all. My love in Christ be with you all."

Do you love the Lord Jesus? Do you know him as the one who loved you and gave himself for you? I tell you, if you want to know God and grow close to Him, read the Bible and let it and it alone determine the conclusions of your experience. There is no other way to know what the heck is going on. Shrooms has its limitations. But not the word of God. The word of God is alive. More than a mushroom ever was.

Thanks for reading.

thanks for the good laugh, lions honey. Too bad for your children though as you seem to be intent on limiting the realization of their potential.

you are talking about god like he has human characteristics. also IMO god is not separate from us, we are separate from god because of ego.

when we ate from the tree of knowledge we atomized ourselves away from the wholeness that is presence and energy beating like a heartbeat within our being. the heartbeat slowly faded as language and society evolved and now many are living within this construct created by us. this construct is our conditioning and it is what separates us from god.

god is in everyone and everything on this planet. how is he separate? are we not the ones who have separated ourselves from him?

When one takes an object outside of themselves and says, "this is God and through God I shall know God," there exists what is called idolatry. It doesn't matter if you try and incorporate everything the senses perceive and then what is beyond the senses, it still is a projection based on a thought of what God is.
Someone once said, "we are God experiencing," if that were true then we would be God's experience and not really God encapsulated in an experience, especially if the experience is constantly changing and evolving.
To say we have separated ourselves from God is even a projection. It is something we cannot do, nor can ego separate man from God.


Is 41:23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.

Even when Jesus said "I and my Father are one" and "the Father is in me, and I in him." He made no reference to himself being God, or that "The Gods" (God in experience) make a God.
Nothing can make a God if God already exists.

There are many ideas of how to take a god object or object containing God to gain more God within ones self, such as eating a mushroom, saying a prayer or mantra but the fact is there is no more God in any object no matter what its qualities or size. Do ye good or do ye evil and behold it together means they both come from the same source.
It is not the objects nor the perceptions of God objects and experience that make one more God like or aware of God but the absorption of ones self in God, uniting all perceptions in unity which make all perceptions great and irrelevant at the same time.

In other words, you equate knowing God with (character revealed through) interpersonal relationships. How impoverished and self-limiting is that?

lucid_dream, I don't think that I do. But I do equate knowing men of God, or men of light, by the way in which they deal with the world around them. Simply to say, you will know them by their fruit.

When it comes to potential, you hit a soft spot with your remark. I don't know a more personally important element in my life and in the lives of my children. I am only 25. I will be in my prime soon. How I want to know what I'm really made of. Who is more equipped to bring about man's potential, man or God?

I don't focus my energies on expanding consciousness or realizing my potential. I focus on what matters: building the kingdom of God. We can trust the Lord cares for the things we care about as men, that He will work those out if we yield our wills, and give us the desires of our hearts if we trust Him. He designed us. He knows us. Look! He formed the woman's breasts. He knows what makes our hearts jump. I am sure he will lead me through such a life, that in the end I will turn and look back with wonder. Paul says of God that He is able to do more than we can ask or imagine. Of course! He is able to make the most of me, and my children. And for His glory, he will see to it that men who do not trust him will fall.

Skim your eyes over Romans 8 and focus your center of gravity on the words... "creation awaits eagerly for the revelation of the sons of God..." and "the freedom of the glory of the children of God." What glory, or what potential to use your words, awaits His saints in the eternal day. Therefore, we can rest when it comes to the matter of glorious self-expression, and busy ourselves with what Jesus said, Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness.

Lay up for yourself treasure in heaven.



Joesus, you are deep man.



forgottenpresence, that's one way of putting it. It's clear Adam and Eve separated their life from God unto death by their disobedience. What's more, we are all sentenced to death in Adam since sin entered the world through him. And if you notice, the Lord drove him and his wife out of the garden. Doesn't that make you think of the time Jesus made a whip of cords and drove the businessmen out of His Father's house? The holiness of God! Who will be able to stand? We have quite the dilemma.

sure. I don't disagree, only thought, perhaps mistakenly, that you were unnecessarily elevating social skills, which although important are by no means the only important things in life, over other skills and talents.

I have read the bible often, particularly in my youth, but for me, the bible, and the anthropomorphic God it espouses, are for children who tend not to think critically, and cannot satisfy those with deeper spiritual needs. I hope you grow past the bible, but as you know, not all are chosen, and in fact, most must remain content with half-truths and fictions concerning God.