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Iran is at the center of all Middle East problems. It is a filthy dishonest nation. Time to take out the Mullahs! Time to nuke Iran!!!

Culture
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 28, 06:06 PM) *

Iran is at the center of all Middle East problems. It is a filthy dishonest nation. Time to take out the Mullahs! Time to nuke Iran!!!



Really? So you are talking from experience I assume? Iran is a wondeful country and as for your hate speech towards Islam...well you are probably ranked in the same IQ range as George W.

M O R O N
morpheous
The common denominator that I see when I look at Iraq and Iran is based on oil for Euros.
It has not been well reported in the press but if you do just a bit of digging, you will discover that Saddam was selling oil for Euros since 2000, even before 9/11. Iran was scheduled to launch an international oil trading bourse (exchange) in March of this year. They've delayed it. I wonder why ?
Guest
Another reason to nuke Iran!

Iran to supply Hezbollah with missiles



Iran will supply Hezbollah with surface-to-air missile systems in the coming months, boosting the guerrillas' defences against Israeli aircraft, according to a report by specialist magazine Jane's Defence Weekly on Friday, citing unnamed Western diplomatic sources.

In a meeting, held late last month, the Lebanese Shiite Muslim militia called on Tehran to "accelerate and extend the scope of weapon shipments from Iran to the Islamic Resistance, particularly advanced missiles against ground and air targets."

Hezbollah's representatives pressed for "an array of more advanced weaponry, including more advanced SAM (surface-to-air missile) systems," Jane's said.

"Iranian authorities conveyed a message to the Hezbollah leadership that their forces would continue to receive a steady supply of weapons systems," it added.

"The details coming from the meeting reveal that they are about ensuring a constant supply of weapons to support Islamic Resistance operations against Israel," said Robin Hughes, the magazine's Middle East Editor.

"We are told the latest meeting was attended by senior representatives of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps' Qods force which is responsible for training and logistic support for Iranian-backed insurgent groups."

According to Jane's Defence Weekly, Iranian authorities have supplied the militia with Iranian-made Noor radar-guided anti-ship cruise missiles and Chinese QW-1 (Vanguard) shoulder-launched SAMs.

Russian-made SAMs will reportedly be supplied at a later date.

Hezbollah has been locked in a more than three-week long deadly conflict against Israel since it kidnapped two Israeli soldiers and killed eight others on July 12.

Israel has carried out a widespread bombing campaign of southern Lebanon, where Hezbollah is based, and Hezbollah has fired rockets into northern Israel.

A Hezbollah anti-ship missile also damaged an Israeli corvette off the Lebanese coast in the early days of the conflict, killing four sailors. Israel said the missile was Iranian-built but Tehran denied involvement.
Guest
There is no need to visit a madhouse to find lunatics.
I sometimes wonder whether our planet is the asylum of our universe for disordered minds.
LifeMirage
"Nuking" Iran would result in massive attacks against North America and Israel. It would be very foolish.
Guest
perhaps a slow drawn-out non-nuclear death for Iran is better
LifeMirage
I would assume the government currently in charge out be your target?
Hey Hey
what will we fight about when the oil is gone?
Guest
QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Aug 06, 09:29 AM) *

what will we fight about when the oil is gone?

religion
maximus242
QUOTE(Hey Hey @ Aug 06, 11:29 AM) *

what will we fight about when the oil is gone?


the fact that the oil is gone..

lol anyways guest is being idiotic, nuking never solved any problems, just caused more of them. North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, Britan, Canada, United States and more countries are involved, sounds like WWIII is on its way.
Guest
We are still living in the Dark Ages. Man is his own worst enemy.
kortikal
maybe discord and war are the natural state for man. Why look for a resolution to current discord when it will just invite further discord? When we've defeated all our enemies, we create new ones to fight. It's the nature of man to fight.
Hey Hey
QUOTE(kortikal @ Aug 07, 04:22 PM) *

It's the nature of man to fight.

For ever?
Guest
Man will go on fighting until he comes to his senses and realizes the whole stupidity of it.
code buttons
QUOTE(Culture @ Jul 28, 10:57 PM) *

QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 28, 06:06 PM) *

Iran is at the center of all Middle East problems. It is a filthy dishonest nation. Time to take out the Mullahs! Time to nuke Iran!!!



Really? So you are talking from experience I assume? Iran is a wondeful country and as for your hate speech towards Islam...well you are probably ranked in the same IQ range as George W.

M O R O N

Iran is not a little divided and powerless middle-eastern nation no more. They are a growing economic and political power in the middle east. Not to be ignored by the wise (which George Bush is not).
Hey Hey
QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 08, 12:19 AM) *

Man will go on fighting until he comes to his senses and realizes the whole stupidity of it.

when might that be and how will humanity realize the stupidity?
OnlyNow
Iran is supplying the Hezbollah with a rich supply of weapons and giving the go-ahead on military moves. Whether Iran and Syria were behind the conflict's triggering event (Hezbollah's abduction of two Israeli soldiers) is debatable, but the kidnapping is certainly in line with Iran's stated goal of wiping Israel off the map. Iran is developing nukes and hates both Israel and the U.S. with irrational religious ferver. We have no choice but to deal with this country before it's too late. I don't think we should go to war with them, and I certainly don't think we ought to nuke them. But Iran is a threat at the present time, a threat that demands global attention and scrutiny at the very least.
Rick
QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Aug 08, 12:59 PM) *

Iran is ... giving the go-ahead on military moves. ...

Do you have any evidence for this?
OnlyNow
QUOTE(Rick @ Aug 08, 03:11 PM) *

QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Aug 08, 12:59 PM) *

Iran is ... giving the go-ahead on military moves. ...

Do you have any evidence for this?


Iran certainly denies it, just like they initially denied supplying weapons. However...

Iran created Hezbollah in 1982 and provides the bulk of Hezbollah’s arms, training, and money, and Iran's Revolutionary Guards regularly train Hezbollah terrorists. Reportedly, there is concrete information that hundreds of Iranian soldiers stationed at Hezbollah positions in Lebanon aided in efforts to fire missiles into Israel. Several Iranian soldiers were recently killed in Lebanon, their bodies returned to Iran. Israeli officials report that Iranian guards directed the firing of a radar-guided C–802 missile acquired by Iran from China that hit an Israeli navy vessel off the coast of Lebanon, killing four soldiers. You tell me.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...1208916,00.html

http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/2006/...ahs-terror.html

http://www.usip.org/events/2006/0817_iran_hezbollah.html

http://www.heritage.org/research/MiddleEast/wm1159.cfm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670958/posts

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/07/18/2...-of-israel-safe
Rick
QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Aug 08, 02:44 PM) *

Your first reference is spceculation about events that hadn't occurred yet. Your second is clearly partisan. Your third provides no evidence that Iran is directing Hezbollah. Similarly your fourth. Your last reference indicates the presence of Iranian soldiers at Hezbollah positions in Lebanon, but the accusation that Iranians directed the firing of rockets was made by Israelis. How would they know that?

To claim that Iran is directing the rocket attacks on Israel is a very serious charge, and if true, could lead to escallation of the conflict.
OnlyNow
QUOTE(Rick @ Aug 08, 05:16 PM) *

QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Aug 08, 02:44 PM) *

Your first reference is spceculation about events that hadn't occurred yet. Your second is clearly partisan. Your third provides no evidence that Iran is directing Hezbollah. Similarly your fourth. Your last reference indicates the presence of Iranian soldiers at Hezbollah positions in Lebanon, but the accusation that Iranians directed the firing of rockets was made by Israelis. How would they know that?

To claim that Iran is directing the rocket attacks on Israel is a very serious charge, and if true, could lead to escallation of the conflict.

Well, even if all Iran has done in the midst of this conflict is supply and then re-supply weaponry and manpower to the terrorist group it formed, then Iran may as well be conducting the attack itself.

There are a lot of pundits saying that this conflict is really a proxy war between the U.S. and Iran.
Rick
Just like Vietnam was a proxy war between the US and the Soviet Union and China. We should have learned. In Vietnam, the Soviet Union avoided sending troops, unlike the US. In Lebanon, the US hasn't sent any troops, yet. The situation is extremely dangerous.
ganji
we need to send in stealth bombers to take out Iran's nuclear ambitions. They are terrorists, it's obvious what they want nukes for. They have their sites aimed at Israel and the Great Satan. Time to make some pre-emptive strikes to protect the world from their barbarism and shady ways! It's the world versus the wicked Mullahs. The Mullahs must die!
LifeMirage
I think we should leave them alone. Unless they make any direct violent actions towards us.
Culture
QUOTE(ganji @ Aug 29, 08:41 PM) *

we need to send in stealth bombers to take out Iran's nuclear ambitions. They are terrorists, it's obvious what they want nukes for. They have their sites aimed at Israel and the Great Satan. Time to make some pre-emptive strikes to protect the world from their barbarism and shady ways! It's the world versus the wicked Mullahs. The Mullahs must die!


Oh yes I see the logic in your generalisation. First the communist bastards...take that Vietnam...Sorry Laos (most bombed country in the world by the way) ....now lets move onto the Mullahs. I am hoping that you are really old, because your post drips with hate and no evidence of logic.
OnlyNow
Don't you think it might be a bit difficult to cherry-pick only Mullahs as bomb targets? Oh well, what's a little collateral damage? Besides, this might facilitate the inevitable--not necessarily bad news for certain people.

Christian fanatics and Iranian president Mahmoud "what Holocaust?" Ahmadinejad actually agree on something: Quit messing around and get Armageddon rolling already! So I say, why not just give Iran some of our nukes so they don't have to go through the trouble of developing them! After all, we did it for Israel, so it's only fair. Besides, we won't know for certain which side was right until we actually lay eyes on the returning messiah. Will it be Jesus or the "hidden imam" Mahdi? Let's not wait any longer than we have to! Ahmadinejad is a devout Muslim fundamentalist whom I trust will use nukes responsibly and only for legitimate doomsday purposes.

It's rumored that Ahmadinejad said he'd be willing to sacrifice half of Iran to wipe out Israel. If I were an Iranian citizen, I'd be trying to figure out which half.
Rick
QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Aug 31, 03:12 PM) *
... we did it for Israel, ...

I don't know of any credible evidence that the USA actually gave nuclear weapons to Israel.
OnlyNow
QUOTE(Rick @ Sep 01, 02:52 PM) *

QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Aug 31, 03:12 PM) *
... we did it for Israel, ...

I don't know of any credible evidence that the USA actually gave nuclear weapons to Israel.

Oops--my bad. I think I was too young when it happened and confused the word endorse with endow. :-)
Rick
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IRC^President
As an Egyptian I maybe subjected to more...let me say more fair media than the States or even the EU.

Well no body cared about, or even compare the human status of Israel and Lebanon, or Israel and Palestine. Compared the civilians dead and how they were dead on both sides. I wonder how could the Isreali intentional aiming at the United Nations center in Qana and then Anan going to ask Olmert for anything but why aiming at the United Nations. You know, I see that the west look at things from only one version of the truth, never see the other half of the glass.
cerebral
The problem with Iran having nukes is that their government is irresponsible. It doesn't matter if all the other civilized nations have nukes, Iran and other barbarous nations should never have such weapons because they don't know how to deal with it responsibly. Iran is like a 'child', and we in the West, the civilized nations, have to assume responsibility like any other parent to ensure that children do not get their hands on dangerous weapons. The children will kick and scream to have weapons, but we must ensure that they never get them; otherwise we are the ones to blame for the consequences that will follow.
Rick
So then I assume that Cerebral will approve when Bush pre-emptively bombs Iran just before the November 2006 election (three to four weeks from now). This will galvanize the Republicans who will then hold both houses of congress and we will have at least two more years of blunders and mismanagement.
Lao_Tzu
QUOTE(OnlyNow @ Aug 08, 2006, 09:59 PM) *

Iran ... hates both Israel and the U.S. with irrational religious ferver.

OnlyNow, if Iran hates the U.S. with a fervour, this is probably more attributable to its systematic oppression and abuse by the USA over the past half century than to religious reasons.

If you cite religious differences as the main cause, you are probably unaware of the extent to which the USA has oppressed Iran.

Some excerpts from Wikipedia's history of Iran, edited for brevity:

During World War II, Britain and the USSR invaded Iran from August 25 to September 17, 1941, to stop an Axis-supported coup and secure Iran's petroleum infrastructure. The Allies of World War II forced the shah to abdicate in favor of his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, whom they hoped would be more supportive.

Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh founded Iran's first democratic government in 1951. But when he nationalised the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (later renamed BP), the West was alarmed. Britain worked with the CIA to organise a coup against him. Agents were hired to facilitate violence; and, as a result, protests broke out across the nation. Anti- and pro-monarchy protestors violently clashed in the streets, leaving almost 300 dead.

The U.S. was among the countries which backed Iraq's invasion of Iran in 1983. It provided intelligence, chemicals for biological weapons as well as other forms of military assistance to the Iraqis. The total Iranian casualties of the war were estimated to be anywhere between 500,000 to 1,000,000.


Now, Iran's domestic history is far from glorious, but I thought you might find this information edifying. It might also quell any aspirations to moral righteousness on the part of the USA.

QUOTE(cerebral @ Sep 29, 2006, 01:45 AM) *

Iran is like a 'child', and we in the West, the civilized nations, have to assume responsibility like any other parent to ensure that children do not get their hands on dangerous weapons. The children will kick and scream to have weapons, but we must ensure that they never get them; otherwise we are the ones to blame for the consequences that will follow.

This is arrogant rhetoric. How dare you elevate the status of your own country to that of a metaphorical parent trying to discipline wayward children? If you were aware of the moral history of the West with respect to its foreign policy, you would not be so quick to call it "civilised" by comparison with anywhere else in the world. The US in particular has frequently undermined the sovereignty of other nations to further its global hegemony, and it's the only nation ever to have used nuclear weapons against civilians (a fact the US government has never acknowledged, nor apologised for).

"What do I think of Western civilisation? I think it would be a very good idea."
- Ghandi

The blinkered and self-righteous outlook of so many Americans is understandable, however, when one takes their news media into account. This should also go some way toward impressing upon you the fact that the USA is not a "responsible" nation. It has been obvious for years that US government is not even responsible to its own public, let alone that of the world. The rest of the world considers the USA, and not Iran, to be the greatest threat to world security. Shed your illusions, patriots.
fish4capt
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 28, 2006, 06:06 PM) *

Iran is at the center of all Middle East problems. It is a filthy dishonest nation. Time to take out the Mullahs! Time to nuke Iran!!!

That is so true i totally agree with that
Culture
QUOTE(fish4capt @ May 11, 2007, 06:43 AM) *

QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 28, 2006, 06:06 PM) *

Iran is at the center of all Middle East problems. It is a filthy dishonest nation. Time to take out the Mullahs! Time to nuke Iran!!!

That is so true i totally agree with that



And why do you agree with that? Because their is evidence? Strange that countries like India go ahead and test nuke missiles and not a word. Again and again I will state, the US has nukes, thats a given. So why would it a problem for other nations not to have the same. Oh wait I can hear the argument from the galley
"They are irresponsible" more so than the well documented irresponsibility of the US? In this day and age of information access I am shocked how misinformed the general public are.

simon
The US already has nukes and is occupying another country (on false pretense). Iran does not (???yet???) have nukes and is not occupying another country!!!.
There are way to many people even though they be the minority (with big mouths and/or big wallets) manipulating, pushing, tricking, provoking other people in to wars that they would rather be without.
If "they" want to have a fight then fine, just find a nice feild somewhere and do want "they" need to do.
Me, I just wanna eat double choc-choc chip rice dream icecream.
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