The design of the World

The word ‘Sat’, meaning the existence, denotes the basic inert energy, which was created by God in the beginning. It is the power of the God, which is wonderful and hence is called as Maya, which did not contain any design of the world. Before the creation of this power, God alone existed (Ekameva… the Veda). This inert energy developed the design of the world, when it is associated with its special form called as awareness. The association of any property with any item is only due to God and should not be claimed as the characteristic of any entity. Any property becomes characteristic of any item as long as God wishes. This was proved by God to all angles in the Veda, where God appeared as Yaksha. Thus the energy (sat) acquired this property of awareness (chit) by the will of God only. Since I used the statement “will of God”, you should not say that God is awareness. God is unimaginable and is the source of all items and all associated or characteristic properties. God need not be awareness to wish. This logic applies to all the items of the creation. If some created item wished, you can say that, that item should be awareness. God is the source of awareness. Awareness is only a property or a special work form of energy. Both the energy and awareness are created by God. God is the root source.

‘Sat’, which is the inert energy existed in the beginning before the first creation (Sadeva – the Veda). It is also called as ‘Asat’ (Asadvaa Idam - the Veda) because the design was absent in it. When the ‘sat’ acquired ‘chit’ property, the design of the world was created in it (Tatovai sadajayata – the Veda). The first word ‘sat’ denotes the inert energy. It is also called as ‘asat’ due to absence of design. The second word ‘sat’ denotes the design, when the energy acquired the ‘chit’ property. All this is about the stage before the first creation.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Manifestation of the causal energy seems to have created a sense of imbalance that became evident after the fall. Non-structure (holographic in nature with no beginning, no end , no centre, yet every point is a centre unto itself) was the basis for spiritual reality. It was perfect & balanced.

The "fall of man" forged the hierarchal paradigm, which was manifested in the economic model. The economic model became the first secular model. We had to eat. All other secular models that followed took their structural example from this because of how supply chains were formed in top-down fashion. This includes the political, religious and educational models. Only the spirtual model predates the economic model in the paradigm of linear time.

The age of information brings us closer to providence and a reconciliation.
We can now work toward establishing a holographic manifestation in multiple dimensions.

How does structure affect greed ? This begs the question as to whether greed is a relative or absolute concept.

New wine requires a new wineskin.

morpheous;


The entire creation is due to Parabrahman only who is like the hidden Father. Interaction of Father and Mother was a hidden concept and it appears to the world as if the mother alone created and delivered the child. Actually, the child is born due to the father only but the world cannot see the father creating or delivering the child. The father created secretly the child in her womb and is the indirect or actual cause of the child but that remains secret. The mother appears as if she herself created and delivered the child from her womb. Similarly the Mula Maya appears as if she has created this universe but Parabrahman created this universe through Mula Maya. Parabrahman remains as a secret like the father. This is told in Gita (Mayadhyakshena, Beejam mam, Aham Beejapradah, Tasmim garbham). Therefore Parabrahman is the cause of the creation of every item in this creation. It appears as if the items of the creation are forming the chain of cause and effect. For e.g.: If a tree has produced a flower, the actual cause of the production is Parabrahman and is like the hidden father. The tree is like the exposed mother appearing as if it is the cause of the flower. When Veda says Aatmana Aakasah, it means the pure awareness has produced space. The pure awareness (Mula Maya) is like the exposed mother generating space. But actually the hidden Parabrahman in the pure awareness has produced the space. Similarly Parabrahman is the cause of any work. When the Brahman desired to create, it is the Parabrahman hidden in Brahman desired so. Brahman means the pure awareness in which the Parabrahman is hidden.

When we say that Parabrahman desired to create, we will immediately assume that Parabrahman must be awareness. It is the logic of the nature that whichever desires, must be awareness. But Parabrahman is beyond this logic, and therefore Parabrahman desires and at the same time He need not be awareness. Veda says that Parabrahman runs without feet and catches without hands (Apani Pado Javano). This means that ParaBrahman does every thing but cannot be detected through its action. By this, you will avoid indicating the Parabrahman by the word ‘awareness’. Thus Parabrahman is the cause of every work but at the same time, it gives fame to the items of its creation. The fire burns anything and it appears as if the fire has the power to burn and convert anything into ash. But the same fire could not even heat a blade of dry grass thrown by Parabrahman. This is explained in Kenopanishat. It means that the burning power of the fire is the very power of the Parabrahman. But the fire is given the fame. Thus Parabrahman is the real hidden cause of this world and everything that happens in this world.

To fulfil the validity of the statements of the divine scriptures for which He Himself is the author, He comes down to preach the true knowledge of the scripture and also proves the validity of every statement. Jesus told the same. Thus every statement of Veda and Gita is the constitution for any spiritual argument. The scientist is taking the universe containing the human beings for the validity of the knowledge. His basic argument is that the perception followed by practical experience associated with logical analysis alone can result in the valid knowledge. But why he is denying the superman who is visible and giving the wonderful knowledge and doing the miracles? The Lord is donating the supernatural powers to several representatives to prove the existence of the unimaginability called Maya (Yadyat Vibhutimat—Gita).

If the existence of Maya is established, the existence of possessor of Maya is also simultaneously established. However to give the proof for His possession of Maya, the Human Incarnation is appearing as the superman. If the Human Incarnation does not come, people may end with the existence of Maya only, which is the power. The power requires the necessity of the existence of the possessor or the source of power. Otherwise every demon will claim himself as the possessor of the power. In fact, they claimed so. Such demons were rejected by sages due to absence of the divine wonderful knowledge, which is a part (Sattvam) of His identity Science is playing a very important role in the spiritual knowledge. Science is the logical analysis, which is present in the analysis of this world as well as in the analysis of the divine knowledge. In fact, sages have analysed the items of the creation with the logical analysis and finally concluded that no item is God. In fact there is no direct way to indicate the God.

The only way left over is the elimination of all the items of the creation through logical analysis as said in Veda (Neti neti). Thus the entire spiritual knowledge is filled with science only because you cannot analyse God who is beyond creation. Thus the Jnana Yoga, which is the identification of the Lord in human form, requires the elimination of fraud human incarnations through logical analysis only. Gita says that the constant association of spiritual knowledge (Jnana) with the science (Vijnana) always continues (Jnanam teham savijnanam, Jnanavijnana truptama). The knowledge ends when the Lord in human form is recognized. Up to this point there is every possibility to slip and therefore science should be in your hand like a glowing torchlight. When you reach the house, the torch light is put off and now the next step is to please the Lord in human form, you require the blind faith and blind love on Him. Therefore the logical analysis should be shut down because the Lord is beyond logic.

From this point onwards, the devotion (Bhakti) starts. For e.g.: In selecting a girl for marriage, you can examine several alliances with logical analysis. But once you marry a girl, you should not still continue to see the alliances and go on continuing with logical analysis. This devotion leads to service finally. In both the stages of devotion and service, the scientific analysis must stop. Thus science is the torchlight that helps you to examine yourself and conclude that you are not God already. The science also acts as torchlight in detecting the true path to reach the Lord. Science or Vijnana is also called as Buddhi or Vijnanamayakosa. This is the driver who leads you in your car up to the place of God. Therefore Gita starts with this driver only (Buddhi Yoga). This torchlight is also useful to eliminate the wrong house. That means you can distinguish the real human form of God from other fraud incarnations. But once you enter the house after deciding that it is the correct house, there is no need of torchlight because the house is full with lights. The Satguru is with full knowledge and logical analysis.

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Thank you, Mr. Buttons. Sir.

Logic is used to reject and imaginable item claimed to be an unimaginable item

Adi Shankara ( a previous human incarnation of God) made certain assumptions, which are hypothetical to preach the spiritual knowledge to the devotees at various levels. Generally the devotees are trained in the logic pertaining to the imaginable items in the world. The development of a concept by them is from a worldly example and also its application is to another worldly example. For example since the black color of the mud (cause) is entering into pot (its effect), the conclusion is that the nature of cause enters its effect. This conclusion is applied to another worldly example and they say that the bright color of the gold lump (cause) must also enter the chain (its effect).

Here, mud, pot, gold lump and chain are imaginable items and are worldly examples. Hence, all their logic is limited to the imaginable items only and that cannot be extended to the unimaginable God and His link with creation is also unimaginable because it is a link between unimaginable God and imaginable creation. This does not mean that logic is useless. It is useful in denying an imaginable item claimed to be unimaginable.

For example in the ancient time the awareness is thought to be independent energy like a free electromagnetic wave in space. But today due to advancement of science and analytical faculty it is clearly proved that awareness is not an independent item but it is completely dependent on the co-existence of functioning nervous system and the inert heat energy produced by the oxidation of food. It is only a special work form of energy appearing through a complicated special technology of brain and nervous system. It is not independent even like the electromagnetic radiation traveling in the space. That which was wonderful yesterday is clear today. It was unimaginable but now is imaginable. Therefore, there is a knowable region extending up to space in the creation.

In this knowable region there are certain layers of attained knowledge and certain layers of unimaginable nature. But the layers of unimaginable nature will certainly be analyzed by logic and science in the course of time. But there is a dead limit of this logic and analysis of science, which is the space beyond which the region of eternal unimaginable nature exists. Therefore, by conquering the unimaginable layers within the knowable region, it does not mean that one day or other the logic or science will cross the dead limit of space also and capture the unimaginable God existing beyond space. That is impossible.

You may try and try and one day you may touch the roof of your house by the constant practice of high jumps. But this does not mean that one day or other you will also touch the sky by the continuous practice of high jumps. Today the unimaginable layers within the knowable region may appear wonderful and these layers can be called as Maya. The word Maya comes from root meaning “wonder” (Maya vaichitrye). The word wonder does not mean that it will be always unimaginable. The temporarily unimaginable systems also look wonderful before the analysis. The magic show looks wonderful but it can be analyzed and the wonder may disappear after analysis. Hence, wonder need not mean the permanently unimaginable item only.

The deeper layers of this universe are wonderful without analysis but may be realized in future. These layers are temporarily unimaginable and the word wonder is used in the case of these also. Therefore, Gita says that you will find the universe as wonderful (Mayamtu Prakrutim…..).

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

I see youve returned dattaswami.

Firstly, I hope you wont be posting 8 topics every day like this.

Second, how can logic regect an imaginable item claimed to be a unimaginable item? If you can give the unimaginable item a definition, then it needs someone to concieve it in order for it to exist.

In other words, if you can percieve an item existing, it can be imagined. This goes along with the thought that nothing cannot be defined. Most people think of a black void when they think of nothing, but that black void is still something - thus its impossible to percieve nothing.

Let Me even say that the unimaginable limits of space are God. The scientist agrees the existence of these unimaginable limits of space and therefore the scientists is agreeing to the existence of God. Even the common man is experiencing the existence of these unimaginable limits of space by seeing the space with his naked eyes. The scientists see the space through the telescope and arrive at the same conclusion. The human intelligence cannot cross the four-dimensional space-time model at any cost on any day. The beginning and the end of the space (limits of boundary) are always untouchable and unimaginable for the intelligence of even top most scientists.

If he crosses the limits of this space, certainly he can touch (Know) God who is beyond the space or exists in the limits of space. The unlimited space stands forever reminding the scientist regarding this eternal truth. Thus, the Universe is visible to all human beings in all times exhibiting the unimaginable item through its unimaginable limits. This Universe is a practical proof and the clear miracle of God available to all to declare this basic concept for every human being on this earth. Nobody needs the demonstration of any miracle other than this to indicate the unimaginable God. The miracles are not available to all in all times. Even if some miracle is demonstrated, people may conclude it as illusion or coincidence of events. But in this demonstrated example of unimaginable limits of space, there is no such controversy. Moreover, in this miracle there is no hope to disprove the unimaginable limits of space in future even according to the opinion of scientists.

There cannot be two or more than two unimaginable items. Hence, the unimaginable limits of the Universe are showing only one unimaginable God directly to every human being. Since, you do not perceive the limits of the Universe, you have not perceived God. The existence of unperceivable limits establishes the unimaginable limits. The Universe is exhibiting its unperceivable and unimaginable limits. This means that you have not seen these limits. Hence, you have not seen the unimaginable limits, which are God.

But the existence of unimaginable and unperceivable limits is exhibited. This means that the unperceivable and unimaginable God exists and His existence is clearly exhibited. This Universe itself exhibits the existence of such God. From this, the conclusion is that you have understood only the existence of unperceivable and unimaginable God but this does not mean that you have seen or imagined God. Veda says “Asteetyeva Upalabdhavyah” which means that you can know only the existence of the unknowable God. Veda says that God is unperceivable and unimaginable (Na Chakshusha…, Yasyaamatam…..). Gita also confirms that God is unimaginable (Mamtuveda Nakaschana…).

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

I dont think it requires posts like these to force the point that the idea of "God" is unimaginable... You could just as easily post the lyrics to "What if God was one of us" by Joan Osborne i think. lol