Anyone got any ideas of what the philosphy behind V is?

Seems to invlove the Quran/Koran, maybe as a back story or as the plot structure?

Brilliant film all the same :0)

I'll have to see that

Is that the title "V for Vendetta"?

I too.

Yes, it's an odd title. As it's all based in the UK and around english politics I think its a play on the world war two V for victory phrase.

I haven't seen it, but based on reviews and discussion, it seems the philosophy underlying the film is that the fight against totalitarianism justifies many lesser sins.

mm i saw it, it deals heavily with the common use of fear tactics amongst governments. It also seeks to show what the new homeland security is really for, keeping citizens doing what the government wants. It plays at the idea that 911 was a sham by the government to help "convince" the people that going to war with iraq is a good thing. By the way generals have been faking attacks on their own people for centuries and every history buff knows that it is one of the oldest tricks in the book. The emergency broadcast system is also a real thing in almost every tv as long as it is resonably new, id guess 1998+. The english politics plays deeply with north american politics, if you look at the flag they show it has england and the us together because thats the sort of bullshit that goes on now adays. The V for Vendetta is trying to show that history is once again repeating itself right now, the increased security measures are usually in violation of human rights but they are passed off as being essential through concentrated crap. It is now legal for the gov to do wiretaps on anyone, anytime without consent of the courts. As you can see in V the english also use heavy securities on their citizens, now onto the tests and the cruel experiments you see in movie.. well im not going to go to heavily into it but the cia has been conducting 'tests' almost since its creation, it has admitted to the MKULTRA crimes as well as so many other ones. What V for Vendetta shows is how a few men control everything through fear and bullshit. The level of deception spreads farther than most people care to ever believe, V for Vendetta has many, many hidden hints as to what goes on in todays government, just pay close attention and you should be able to understand.

V for Vagina

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This eerily sounds like alot of the conspiracy conversations that once occured around here intermingled through various threads.

That damn eye in the sky!

yeah? maybe history is repeating again haha. There is tons o bullsh*t out there, I rely on most of my info from professors, government documents, lawyers, FOIA ect. I dont simply go google something on the internet and find info, most of my knowlege about the government comes from books, some by the political leaders themselves like the biography mein kampf. The rest of my knowlege is from other people, the reason why I believe the government does some of this shit is because ive seen some of them work.. I dont just search for something and assume it is correct, I go out and verify it through researching the subject, if im looking at using elf waves then I will find papers and articles by neuroscientists about the effects that elf waves have. You cannot believe everything you read, hear or even say, but simply assuming that something is correct because it seems that way or assuming something is incorrect because it seems to be, is foolish in my opinion .

As Hitler once said, "How fortunate for the leaders of the world that the masses do not think"

The film also has a great personal awakaning side, which is something i'm more interested in than the obvious iraq metaphors and the idea of bird flu being a manufactured virus.

Its shows the transition of a sheltered life into a real one free of fear and greif, it shows people that they have the right to stand up to say NO to all the shit going on around them. Its very much a teacher/student kind of film and shows how good people with the best intentions can become bad and vice versa.

The casting of John Hurt as the high chancelor was woven into the deep philosophical background of the plot as he metaphorically plays himself from 1984. The film shows that after he was beaten by the system and suffered in room 101 he became the system and went on to be the next big brother. Evey (spelling?) also has her own transition through the anti room 101 with the equally opposite result and she becomes free of the system.

The whole fear/grief/awakening/facing death thing is definately part of the Quran as i have now started reading it, and i'm looking forward to finding out what else relates; the scarlet carson rose, the salt flats film. These are things that don't exist and are clues but i'm not sure to what.

It should have been called: B for boring. I felt asleep twice watching this silly movie. I guess I would have been better off finding out the secret phylosophical or political message. Because I sure felt like I was watching an old black and white Batman-for-tv movie.

Does Neo make a cameo appearance in the movie?

Who is Neo?

Neo of the Matrix movies, played by Keanu Reeves. The question is a natural because V is played by Hugo Weaving who played the Agent in the Matrix movies.

You're a spoiler Rick.

Argh!!! I'm going to kill you Rick! Now I don't want to see the movie!




just j/k. I'll probably see it this weekend.

Watch out for canoey in the film, the very last shot is of hundreds of people and he may be among them? you know what the wachowski brother, and sister, are like with hidden things.

I must admit that i didn't see any sign of him or anyone else from the Matrix in the film, you don't even see Hugo!

Don't any body go see "Inside Man". It's dissapointing

why disappointing?

I was expecting a smart action flick and it didn't even come close to my expectations. Could have been I didn't do enough research about the subject before I went to see it.

I am so glad people are recognizing these connections to the real world.
This movie couldn't have come at a better time, and couldn't have compaired the real world to this movie any better without actully SAYING the exact issues it was portraying.
Concidering you have brought up the relation between the two, and mentioned 9/11 you should go to google.com, search videos, and type in Loose Change, then click on the second edition movie, it will play through the browser.
It's a very interesting, informative movie, and something the entire country(US) should watch.
Take a look.

That's public information, generally stated in all written movie reviews. I got it from Time magazine.