Full Version: Frequency Effects
well I dono about you guys but I think we should start off with something easier then developing our own TMS', cause their is a sh*t load we gotta do, dont forget even if we precisely wrap the coil we still need to make a continous cooling system for it. I twas thinking if the EEG could be developed first than the effects that the TMS has could also be measured...
Holy sh*t dude... I think this is right up your alley... what do you think?
f course, what I'm really interested in are the effects of RF-
modulated plasma on the human nervous system. The die-off of
pathogens will have a definite effect, but the RF itself (a certain
frequency band) will have an effect of it's own. Some Rife users
report mental effects, especially with tubes that are doped with
mercury. I won't be using mercury, but an element that has a similar
light output (in one of the tubes).
ne of the reasons I'm interested in this is
the discovery that plasma tubes acts as RF antennas without a
relationship between the wavelength of the output and the length of
the tube, unlike metal antennas. They're investigating plasma
antennas for use on submarines for communications. I'm interested in
the VLF band, because it is the band of natural signals on earth.
Metal VLF antennas are, normally, monstrously large, sometimes
antenna arrays are required, because the wavelength is so long.
The exposure times will be limited.
This device will be different as to how it is ionized, and modulated,
which will be accomplished by two separate means. Not with a CB radio
and amplifier, as in the Rife-Bare device. As the wavelengths, except
for higher harmonics, will be well below the megahertz range, I
suspect it will be safer as to RF output.
well I dono about you guys but I think we should start off with something easier then developing our own TMS', cause their is a sh*t load we gotta do, dont forget even if we precisely wrap the coil we still need to make a continous cooling system for it. I twas thinking if the EEG could be developed first than the effects that the TMS has could also be measured...
Speak for yourself, mister, 'cause I have the 'trodes on my head already... I do understand the measurement part. What about the soundcardEEG? That looked a lot easier.
I would like to build an openEEG some day, maybe, but I don't have a lot of cash to spend for building so TMS will be my next investment.
Oh and you're right about the cooling system. I don't know even know if they use fans in modern computers anymore, I'm that much behind in the tech department (sad...).
It will use a more compact tube than most Rife
devices, while maintaining a high output. The electronics involved
will also be very simple. The tube itself will be, well, complex.
f course, what I'm really interested in are the effects of RF-
modulated plasma on the human nervous system. The die-off of
pathogens will have a definite effect, but the RF itself (a certain
frequency band) will have an effect of it's own. Some Rife users
report mental effects, especially with tubes that are doped with
mercury. I won't be using mercury, but an element that has a similar
light output (in one of the tubes).
ne of the reasons I'm interested in this is
the discovery that plasma tubes acts as RF antennas without a
relationship between the wavelength of the output and the length of
the tube, unlike metal antennas. They're investigating plasma
antennas for use on submarines for communications. I'm interested in
the VLF band, because it is the band of natural signals on earth.
Metal VLF antennas are, normally, monstrously large, sometimes
antenna arrays are required, because the wavelength is so long.
The exposure times will be limited.
This device will be different as to how it is ionized, and modulated,
which will be accomplished by two separate means. Not with a CB radio
and amplifier, as in the Rife-Bare device. As the wavelengths, except
for higher harmonics, will be well below the megahertz range, I
suspect it will be safer as to RF output.
QUOTE(maximus242 @ Feb 13, 03:12 AM) 
well I dono about you guys but I think we should start off with something easier then developing our own TMS', cause their is a sh*t load we gotta do, dont forget even if we precisely wrap the coil we still need to make a continous cooling system for it. I twas thinking if the EEG could be developed first than the effects that the TMS has could also be measured...
Speak for yourself, mister, 'cause I have the 'trodes on my head already... I do understand the measurement part. What about the soundcardEEG? That looked a lot easier.
I would like to build an openEEG some day, maybe, but I don't have a lot of cash to spend for building so TMS will be my next investment.
Oh and you're right about the cooling system. I don't know even know if they use fans in modern computers anymore, I'm that much behind in the tech department (sad...).
It will use a more compact tube than most Rife
devices, while maintaining a high output. The electronics involved
will also be very simple. The tube itself will be, well, complex.
well they use either a air cooled or water cooled system for the coils, depends on the manufacturer. And the TMS will probably cost more than the EEG, with the TMS you will also have 10x the work to do because no one has done any work on making a cheap TMS. If you wanna start up it on sourceforge or get a project going then let me know cause I am up for it. However if your truely commited to making a TMS it is gonna take a lot of time and research.
On the subject of patent offices, I found the below patent
concerning plasma antennas quite some time ago, and it inspired me to
simplify the design of Rife-type devices. The tube can be lit with
HV, like a neon sign, and modulated with separate means. This
eliminates the most troublesome and costly aspect of most Rife
devices, impedance matching, using RF as an ionizing force, balun
transformers, expensive RF amplifiers, standing wave calculations,
etc. I won't be using an audio transducer to modulate my plasma
device, as the audio level has to be 100 decibels (loud). Toroids or
permanent-magnet-core electromagnets (or other means) are simpler,
easier, and cheaper.
I also recently found a page on Rife devices that indicates the tube
acts as a speaker, producing high levels of ultrasound. However, the
author of the page discounted any contribution of ultrasound to Rife
effects, as in tests, people and microorganism cultures were too
distant from the tube, or shielded from ultrasound, for it to be a
factor. But who knows for sure?
James
United States Patent 6,087,992
Acoustically driven plasma antenna
A plasma antenna with an acoustic modulator is provided. An ionizer
produ a plasma in a horizontal tube to form a bounded plasma column
extending along a longitudinal axis. An amplitude-, phase- or
frequency-modulated signal is applied to an acoustic transducer that
directs an acoustic wave along the longitudinal axis into the plasma.
The acoustic wave acts as an ion acoustic wave to oscillate ions
parallel to the axis. This movement radiates an amplitude-, phase- or
frequency-modulated electromagnetic field from the plasma column....
An ionizer and power supply provide a mechanism for maintaining a
plasma within the tube. The ionizer may comprise a laser, a rf
generator or an arc discharge device or any other device capable of
producing the plasma within the closed volume defined by the tube....
well they use either a air cooled or water cooled system for the coils, depends on the manufacturer. And the TMS will probably cost more than the EEG, with the TMS you will also have 10x the work to do because no one has done any work on making a cheap TMS. If you wanna start up it on sourceforge or get a project going then let me know cause I am up for it. However if your truely commited to making a TMS it is gonna take a lot of time and research.
A TMS will definitely cost more than openEEG, no doubt, but I'm willing to explore some alternative routes first (like the coil gun circuit) just to see if I can get _something_ done in relatively little time.
Besides, in the TMS text I pasted here there was mention of "online groups of DIY TMS'ers.". I translate that to mean we are not the first? The groups are just not public or just not on Google.
Some time ago, I had Bill Cheb make me a custom tube with an
iodine/neon mix. It is four inches long by one inch diameter.
This morning, I experimented with a few different kinds of modulation.
First, I connected an electromagnet to a CD player headphone jack.
The electromagnet was composed of a supermagnet (curved rectangle)
wrapped with one layer of medium gauge magnet wire, then covered in
heat-shrink tubing.
Interestingly, the supermagnet coil acted as a speaker, although at
low volume. I'm assuming this was not a form of electromagnetic
hearing. The idea with this coil was to modulate the extremely strong
field of the supermagnet. This produced lines in the plasma
perpendicular to the tube. The lines visibly vibrated when I heard
the signal.
The second method involved a toroid, a doughnut-shaped coil. Toroids
concentrate their field in the center. My idea was to "pinch" the
plasma in sync with the signals on the CD. This produced variations
in the appearance of the plasma also.
With both methods, I felt something just below the right ear. Hard to
describe.
Of course, the next tube will be much longer (25 inches), and I will
also be adding a mini audio amplifier between the electrromagnet and
the CD player. That should get the VLF radio waves going.
When a finger or conductor is touched to the center of the tube, an
imperfect separation in color occurs, yellow towards the positive
pole, purple towards the negative. The tube was, by the way, ionized
(lit) by a standard small neon transformer made for automotive use.
concerning plasma antennas quite some time ago, and it inspired me to
simplify the design of Rife-type devices. The tube can be lit with
HV, like a neon sign, and modulated with separate means. This
eliminates the most troublesome and costly aspect of most Rife
devices, impedance matching, using RF as an ionizing force, balun
transformers, expensive RF amplifiers, standing wave calculations,
etc. I won't be using an audio transducer to modulate my plasma
device, as the audio level has to be 100 decibels (loud). Toroids or
permanent-magnet-core electromagnets (or other means) are simpler,
easier, and cheaper.
I also recently found a page on Rife devices that indicates the tube
acts as a speaker, producing high levels of ultrasound. However, the
author of the page discounted any contribution of ultrasound to Rife
effects, as in tests, people and microorganism cultures were too
distant from the tube, or shielded from ultrasound, for it to be a
factor. But who knows for sure?
James
United States Patent 6,087,992
Acoustically driven plasma antenna
A plasma antenna with an acoustic modulator is provided. An ionizer
produ a plasma in a horizontal tube to form a bounded plasma column
extending along a longitudinal axis. An amplitude-, phase- or
frequency-modulated signal is applied to an acoustic transducer that
directs an acoustic wave along the longitudinal axis into the plasma.
The acoustic wave acts as an ion acoustic wave to oscillate ions
parallel to the axis. This movement radiates an amplitude-, phase- or
frequency-modulated electromagnetic field from the plasma column....
An ionizer and power supply provide a mechanism for maintaining a
plasma within the tube. The ionizer may comprise a laser, a rf
generator or an arc discharge device or any other device capable of
producing the plasma within the closed volume defined by the tube....
QUOTE(maximus242 @ Feb 13, 03:27 AM)
well they use either a air cooled or water cooled system for the coils, depends on the manufacturer. And the TMS will probably cost more than the EEG, with the TMS you will also have 10x the work to do because no one has done any work on making a cheap TMS. If you wanna start up it on sourceforge or get a project going then let me know cause I am up for it. However if your truely commited to making a TMS it is gonna take a lot of time and research.
A TMS will definitely cost more than openEEG, no doubt, but I'm willing to explore some alternative routes first (like the coil gun circuit) just to see if I can get _something_ done in relatively little time.
Besides, in the TMS text I pasted here there was mention of "online groups of DIY TMS'ers.". I translate that to mean we are not the first? The groups are just not public or just not on Google.
Some time ago, I had Bill Cheb make me a custom tube with an
iodine/neon mix. It is four inches long by one inch diameter.
This morning, I experimented with a few different kinds of modulation.
First, I connected an electromagnet to a CD player headphone jack.
The electromagnet was composed of a supermagnet (curved rectangle)
wrapped with one layer of medium gauge magnet wire, then covered in
heat-shrink tubing.
Interestingly, the supermagnet coil acted as a speaker, although at
low volume. I'm assuming this was not a form of electromagnetic
hearing. The idea with this coil was to modulate the extremely strong
field of the supermagnet. This produced lines in the plasma
perpendicular to the tube. The lines visibly vibrated when I heard
the signal.
The second method involved a toroid, a doughnut-shaped coil. Toroids
concentrate their field in the center. My idea was to "pinch" the
plasma in sync with the signals on the CD. This produced variations
in the appearance of the plasma also.
With both methods, I felt something just below the right ear. Hard to
describe.
Of course, the next tube will be much longer (25 inches), and I will
also be adding a mini audio amplifier between the electrromagnet and
the CD player. That should get the VLF radio waves going.
When a finger or conductor is touched to the center of the tube, an
imperfect separation in color occurs, yellow towards the positive
pole, purple towards the negative. The tube was, by the way, ionized
(lit) by a standard small neon transformer made for automotive use.
-.- magnets are what are used to produce soundwaves in speakers, of course it is going to act as a speaker..
? "I'm assuming this was not a form of electromagnetic
hearing."
hearing."
mayonaise did you find your info regarding the Silent Sound Spread Spectrum?
If you roll back or search for "goldwave", you will find the link to the formula I have (that's all).
um I couldnt find it, alls I found was this goldwave software program used for modifying audio. If you do have SSSS forumal it is much appreciated 
.
Oh and since we have been talking about influence through electromagnetic stimulation I thought youd like this.
Dr Persinger wrote an article a few years ago, titled "On the
Possibility of Directly Accessing Every Human Brain by
Electromagnetic Induction of Fundamental Algorithms".[18] The
abstract reads:
"Contemporary neuroscience suggests the existence of fundamental
algorithms by which all sensory transduction is translated into an
intrinsic, brain-specific code. Direct stimulation of these codes
within the human temporal or limbic cortices by applied
electromagnetic patterns may require energy levels which are within
the range of both geomagnetic activity and contemporary
communication networks. A process which is coupled to the narrow
band of brain temperature could allow all normal human brains to
be. affected by a subharmonic whose frequency range at about 10 Hz
would only vary by 0. 1 Hz."
He concludes the article with this:
"Within the last two decades a potential has emerged which was
improbable, but which is now marginally feasible. This potential is
the technical capability to influence directly the major portion of
the approximately six billion brains of the human species, without
mediation through classical sensory modalities, by generating
neural information within a physical medium within which all
members of the species are immersed.
"The historical emergence of such possibilities, which have ranged
from gunpowder to atomic fission, have resulted in major changes in
the social evolution that occurred inordinately quickly after the
implementation. Reduction of the risk of the inappropriate
application of these technologies requires the continued and open
discussion of their realistic feasibility and implications within
the scientific and public domain."
.Oh and since we have been talking about influence through electromagnetic stimulation I thought youd like this.
Dr Persinger wrote an article a few years ago, titled "On the
Possibility of Directly Accessing Every Human Brain by
Electromagnetic Induction of Fundamental Algorithms".[18] The
abstract reads:
"Contemporary neuroscience suggests the existence of fundamental
algorithms by which all sensory transduction is translated into an
intrinsic, brain-specific code. Direct stimulation of these codes
within the human temporal or limbic cortices by applied
electromagnetic patterns may require energy levels which are within
the range of both geomagnetic activity and contemporary
communication networks. A process which is coupled to the narrow
band of brain temperature could allow all normal human brains to
be. affected by a subharmonic whose frequency range at about 10 Hz
would only vary by 0. 1 Hz."
He concludes the article with this:
"Within the last two decades a potential has emerged which was
improbable, but which is now marginally feasible. This potential is
the technical capability to influence directly the major portion of
the approximately six billion brains of the human species, without
mediation through classical sensory modalities, by generating
neural information within a physical medium within which all
members of the species are immersed.
"The historical emergence of such possibilities, which have ranged
from gunpowder to atomic fission, have resulted in major changes in
the social evolution that occurred inordinately quickly after the
implementation. Reduction of the risk of the inappropriate
application of these technologies requires the continued and open
discussion of their realistic feasibility and implications within
the scientific and public domain."
I have just read through these posts and decided to google on "low frequency brain stimulation" to see how much there might be on the web.
Over one and a half million hits !!!!!
So, it is already a very popular research area.
Over one and a half million hits !!!!!
So, it is already a very popular research area.
There is a relevant article at http://www.loft8.com/word /
entitled Binaural Beats - 5.5 Hz
entitled Binaural Beats - 5.5 Hz
Ryhmer if you have read through our posts then I will assume for a minute you already know what binaural beats are. However their are many possiblities of how to stimulate the brain through low frequency waves:
1. Binaural Beats
2. TMS
2. TES
3. rTMS
4. EEG frequencies
5. Electromagnetic Frequencies
6. Microwave induced frequency to skull
7. Neurophone
8. the russian "LIDA"
9. Shakti
Also, doesnt Shakti seem like a poor mans TMS with limited capablilities lol? It could be a good starting point for the fundamentals without causing 100db+ of noise.. + its cheaper haha
1. Binaural Beats
2. TMS
2. TES
3. rTMS
4. EEG frequencies
5. Electromagnetic Frequencies
6. Microwave induced frequency to skull
7. Neurophone
8. the russian "LIDA"
9. Shakti
Also, doesnt Shakti seem like a poor mans TMS with limited capablilities lol? It could be a good starting point for the fundamentals without causing 100db+ of noise.. + its cheaper haha
Maximus, I don't get your humor on Shakti because if you want one, buy one, but otherwise Shakti = TMS bit like saying a shovel is as useful as one of those big vehicles they use for digging at construction sites, you see... maybe this is too far but you get the point.
Very interesting article you found (Persinger). I should ask Todd or Persinger what exactly he means here (unless you know). Why is the frequency of the brain's temperature important, for example.
Silent Sound is patented technology. When I came across the formula I use (the one above), I never bothered to search further because James said this works as well.
Very interesting article you found (Persinger). I should ask Todd or Persinger what exactly he means here (unless you know). Why is the frequency of the brain's temperature important, for example.
Silent Sound is patented technology. When I came across the formula I use (the one above), I never bothered to search further because James said this works as well.
Mayonaise the reason for the temperature band is "may require energy levels which are within the range of both geomagnetic activity and contemporary communication networks". I believe that you need to use the temperature band so that you can achieve the required energy levels within the brain. If you are intrested in this technology I believe we will require the "codes" then all is needed is to stimulate the cortices and we should be able to achive the desired effect. I believe what we should explore is making a electro magnetic field, this is a very feasible project and if we can make the field programmable enough we should be able to use it for a variety of purposes.
As I previously stated mayonaise I could not find the algorithm using a search for "goldwave" alls I came up with is a audio program used for recording ect. Anyways I was just wondering if the SSSS algorithm you have is based upon math (if so I gotta see this) or if it is based off of the known information. I also know that SSSS is patented and their is also a trademark on Silent Sound, anyways if you have an algorithm either pm or post it cause I cant find it. I do know how to construct a SSSS but a specific formula doesnt hurt. The concept is actually quite simple but it is not easy to come across anything besides the patent, I should have a digital version up and running soon.
Anyways the reason why I said a shakti is like a poor mans TMS is because a. it sends off electromagnetic stimulation b. It has the interchanging of magnetic waves to stimulate both hemispheres c. It can create some of the calming effects of TMS. So whats the diffrence? well obviously the TMS uses masses of power to create much stronger electromagnetic waves, in fact so powerful that they can pull earings through your ears and braces off your teeth, the TMS also uses a single or double coil where as the Shakti uses 2-8 low power DTA coils. The TMS also has a better ability to target specific areas of the brain ect, where as the Shakti is more of a general purpose altered state of conciousness. It should be noted that the Shakti was created by a neuroresearch scientist so it does have desirable neurostimulation properties.
Again Shakti is more just a look at how we can do something related to TMS, it is by far not perfect but it gives us ideas as to how we can create our own EMF ect. We need to look into coils, they seem to be our ticket to magnetic fields and stimulation, the large scale of TMS might be to much to start with but what if we do a low power TMS or a EMF? I say this because their is a lot of risks involed with TMS, especially if you are building one without formal training or experience. If we could make a EMF that is easily manipulated then we can do a broad range of applications with one device.
Finally I found some information related to the EEG pattern matching we were talking about earlier. It seems that the U.S. government is now using EEG's (these ones require no direct connection to the person, lol I forget how it works but it does exist) to find out the EEG wavelength a person or group of people is on, they then input this information into a supercomputer which calculates a new EEG pattern and outputs it. Although it is possible to use more crude versions that do not untilize the full EEG, with these super computers it is now possible to match the complexities of the EEG.
As I previously stated mayonaise I could not find the algorithm using a search for "goldwave" alls I came up with is a audio program used for recording ect. Anyways I was just wondering if the SSSS algorithm you have is based upon math (if so I gotta see this) or if it is based off of the known information. I also know that SSSS is patented and their is also a trademark on Silent Sound, anyways if you have an algorithm either pm or post it cause I cant find it. I do know how to construct a SSSS but a specific formula doesnt hurt. The concept is actually quite simple but it is not easy to come across anything besides the patent, I should have a digital version up and running soon.
Anyways the reason why I said a shakti is like a poor mans TMS is because a. it sends off electromagnetic stimulation b. It has the interchanging of magnetic waves to stimulate both hemispheres c. It can create some of the calming effects of TMS. So whats the diffrence? well obviously the TMS uses masses of power to create much stronger electromagnetic waves, in fact so powerful that they can pull earings through your ears and braces off your teeth, the TMS also uses a single or double coil where as the Shakti uses 2-8 low power DTA coils. The TMS also has a better ability to target specific areas of the brain ect, where as the Shakti is more of a general purpose altered state of conciousness. It should be noted that the Shakti was created by a neuroresearch scientist so it does have desirable neurostimulation properties.
Again Shakti is more just a look at how we can do something related to TMS, it is by far not perfect but it gives us ideas as to how we can create our own EMF ect. We need to look into coils, they seem to be our ticket to magnetic fields and stimulation, the large scale of TMS might be to much to start with but what if we do a low power TMS or a EMF? I say this because their is a lot of risks involed with TMS, especially if you are building one without formal training or experience. If we could make a EMF that is easily manipulated then we can do a broad range of applications with one device.
Finally I found some information related to the EEG pattern matching we were talking about earlier. It seems that the U.S. government is now using EEG's (these ones require no direct connection to the person, lol I forget how it works but it does exist) to find out the EEG wavelength a person or group of people is on, they then input this information into a supercomputer which calculates a new EEG pattern and outputs it. Although it is possible to use more crude versions that do not untilize the full EEG, with these super computers it is now possible to match the complexities of the EEG.
Dude, is it rude to say that I found your last post very clear to understand? :-) And also helpful. However, there are some things you can try explaining to me.
I didn't understand that sentence of his. It seems to me he talks about energy _levels_, not frequencies or bands, there.
My first idea was if he was talking about something like Schumann's resonance (that is one major geomagnetic frequency AFAIK). But I'm not sure. I did ask Todd about this so maybe he can explain this at length.
Also what is the temperature band? The brain's temperature varies between different parts of one person's brain. So how do you tune in to something that changes... Also, without any proof or even a theory, I fail to see how the brain temperature could be such a large contributor to our experiences. Blood flow yes, but not experiences... but I'm all ears for more information.
How would somehow "coupling the codes with the temperature band" create more energy? We need to know the biological mechanism behind this phenomenon. If such a phenomenon exists, there has to be some evidence out there for it already (I doubt Persinger has come up with such a discovery all by himself).
Yet, besides the codes, we need to know the exact details to create the type of machine described by Persinger.
It's math, a very simple formula.
I wonder if you googled for goldwave or something because had you downloaded the rapidshare link I posted (not the TMS-one) in _this thread_, you would have the formula by now.
Yes it works
I'm glad to hear you agree with me
I don't believe they can remotely influence brains.
There are people on the web saying there are perpetrators and some of these people seem quite sane but nah, I don't think so.
I think I'll look if I can find testimonials about the CD's on the market claiming to do the same thing - somewhere else than the site selling them that is. That might give some clues whether the idea is worth investigating in detail.
Btw, I'm looking into an idea of compressing your sleep cycle in half the time, that means speeding it up, leaving you many more waking hours. It uses magnets and EEG recording. I want to test it but I haven't yet figured out a way to do the splicing of the recording with the software I have. 6,978,179 if you want to search US patent office.
QUOTE
Mayonaise the reason for the temperature band is "may require energy levels which are within the range of both geomagnetic activity and contemporary communication networks".
I didn't understand that sentence of his. It seems to me he talks about energy _levels_, not frequencies or bands, there.
My first idea was if he was talking about something like Schumann's resonance (that is one major geomagnetic frequency AFAIK). But I'm not sure. I did ask Todd about this so maybe he can explain this at length.
Also what is the temperature band? The brain's temperature varies between different parts of one person's brain. So how do you tune in to something that changes... Also, without any proof or even a theory, I fail to see how the brain temperature could be such a large contributor to our experiences. Blood flow yes, but not experiences... but I'm all ears for more information.
QUOTE
I believe that you need to use the temperature band so that you can achieve the required energy levels within the brain.
How would somehow "coupling the codes with the temperature band" create more energy? We need to know the biological mechanism behind this phenomenon. If such a phenomenon exists, there has to be some evidence out there for it already (I doubt Persinger has come up with such a discovery all by himself).
QUOTE
I believe what we should explore is making a electro magnetic field, this is a very feasible project
Yet, besides the codes, we need to know the exact details to create the type of machine described by Persinger.
QUOTE
As I previously stated mayonaise I could not find the algorithm using a search for "goldwave" alls I came up with is a audio program used for recording ect. Anyways I was just wondering if the SSSS algorithm you have is based upon math (if so I gotta see this) or if it is based off of the known information.
It's math, a very simple formula.
I wonder if you googled for goldwave or something because had you downloaded the rapidshare link I posted (not the TMS-one) in _this thread_, you would have the formula by now.
QUOTE
Anyways the reason why I said a shakti is like a poor mans TMS is because a. it sends off electromagnetic stimulation b. It has the interchanging of magnetic waves to stimulate both hemispheres c. It can create some of the calming effects of TMS. So whats the diffrence? well obviously the TMS uses masses of power to create much stronger electromagnetic waves, in fact so powerful that they can pull earings through your ears and braces off your teeth, the TMS also uses a single or double coil where as the Shakti uses 2-8 low power DTA coils. The TMS also has a better ability to target specific areas of the brain ect, where as the Shakti is more of a general purpose altered state of conciousness. It should be noted that the Shakti was created by a neuroresearch scientist so it does have desirable neurostimulation properties.
Yes it works
QUOTE
We need to look into coils, they seem to be our ticket to magnetic fields and stimulation, the large scale of TMS might be to much to start with but what if we do a low power TMS or a EMF?
I'm glad to hear you agree with me
QUOTE
Finally I found some information related to the EEG pattern matching we were talking about earlier. It seems that the U.S. government is now using EEG's (these ones require no direct connection to the person, lol I forget how it works but it does exist) to find out the EEG wavelength a person or group of people is on, they then input this information into a supercomputer which calculates a new EEG pattern and outputs it. Although it is possible to use more crude versions that do not untilize the full EEG, with these super computers it is now possible to match the complexities of the EEG.
I don't believe they can remotely influence brains.
There are people on the web saying there are perpetrators and some of these people seem quite sane but nah, I don't think so.
I think I'll look if I can find testimonials about the CD's on the market claiming to do the same thing - somewhere else than the site selling them that is. That might give some clues whether the idea is worth investigating in detail.
Btw, I'm looking into an idea of compressing your sleep cycle in half the time, that means speeding it up, leaving you many more waking hours. It uses magnets and EEG recording. I want to test it but I haven't yet figured out a way to do the splicing of the recording with the software I have. 6,978,179 if you want to search US patent office.
OH well you coulda told me I had to dl another file, lol hell i didnt even know you posted a second one until rereading through... Whoah thanks dude
As far as the narrow temperature band, I dont think you stimulate the band, you stimulate the cortices. Their appears to be a certain temperature within the brain that is required in order to input the codes? we should find the full article (that was only the abstract) and maybe it will go into more detail + if it is patented then we can get the schematics.
why does he choose 44,500 hz? that is 24,000hz outside of human hearing. The SSSS calls for 14,500..
Okay I dont know if these will help but their is some intresting stuff
http://www.angelfire.com/80s/sixmhz/coolstuff2.html -Electrogmagnetic Coil Gun
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/c_controlOfCh...act.html#effelf -Effects of ELF EMF's
http://www.magnepress.com/emi_safety_standards.htm -EMF Safety
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs205/en/ -Explanation of ELF EMF's
I have also found a book on ELF and VLF EMF effects (for inducing states of mind ect.) I will read up on it and try to get some more useful information.
Things Founds so far:
-Narrow Band Frequencies are more effective in 20hz and under
-To find ELF EMF effects our best bet is to hook someone up to a EEG and then measure the effects
Here is the link for the patent to remotly monitor and change brainwave patterns
http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US0039...26RS=PN/3951134
As far as the narrow temperature band, I dont think you stimulate the band, you stimulate the cortices. Their appears to be a certain temperature within the brain that is required in order to input the codes? we should find the full article (that was only the abstract) and maybe it will go into more detail + if it is patented then we can get the schematics.
why does he choose 44,500 hz? that is 24,000hz outside of human hearing. The SSSS calls for 14,500..
Okay I dont know if these will help but their is some intresting stuff
http://www.angelfire.com/80s/sixmhz/coolstuff2.html -Electrogmagnetic Coil Gun
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/c_controlOfCh...act.html#effelf -Effects of ELF EMF's
http://www.magnepress.com/emi_safety_standards.htm -EMF Safety
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs205/en/ -Explanation of ELF EMF's
I have also found a book on ELF and VLF EMF effects (for inducing states of mind ect.) I will read up on it and try to get some more useful information.
Things Founds so far:
-Narrow Band Frequencies are more effective in 20hz and under
-To find ELF EMF effects our best bet is to hook someone up to a EEG and then measure the effects
Here is the link for the patent to remotly monitor and change brainwave patterns
http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US0039...26RS=PN/3951134
I asked Todd and here's what he said:
> Why and is the "narrow band of brain temperature" so
> important?
Of course, temperature relects the amount of energy in a system, and
the stimulation would have to be able to excite the system within it's own
ranges - not too much or too little.
> Does this mean that the required amount of electricity
> is so high that it is likely to interfere with
> communication systems or does it simply suggest the
> frequency of operation (megahertz scale for example):
No, it suggests that existing communication systems might be
sufficient.
> If you were able to answer those, do you know of any
> pointers I could research this subject further?
Not really. This is not a subject of inquiry that much interests me,
so I haven't tried to follow up on it.
Like Persinger I am opposed to the development of any such system.
------------
So I will drop the matter for now. For one thing, I don't know if Todd is telling the whole story because he is opposed to the idea. So if we want to know more, we'll have to find the information ourselves.
Dude, in the instructions 14Khz is used for the highpass filter. The file is sampled at 44100 but that's another thing.
I will check the links.
QUOTE
> Why and is the "narrow band of brain temperature" so
> important?
Of course, temperature relects the amount of energy in a system, and
the stimulation would have to be able to excite the system within it's own
ranges - not too much or too little.
> Does this mean that the required amount of electricity
> is so high that it is likely to interfere with
> communication systems or does it simply suggest the
> frequency of operation (megahertz scale for example):
No, it suggests that existing communication systems might be
sufficient.
> If you were able to answer those, do you know of any
> pointers I could research this subject further?
Not really. This is not a subject of inquiry that much interests me,
so I haven't tried to follow up on it.
Like Persinger I am opposed to the development of any such system.
------------
So I will drop the matter for now. For one thing, I don't know if Todd is telling the whole story because he is opposed to the idea. So if we want to know more, we'll have to find the information ourselves.
Dude, in the instructions 14Khz is used for the highpass filter. The file is sampled at 44100 but that's another thing.
I will check the links.
lol yeah I posted to quickly bout the 44khz, i think the major requirements for the EMF would be changing the frequency, band width and power level.
here is an intresting Idea (literatly have voices in your head)
http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US0048...RS=PN/4,877,027
http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=059350...ey=25C1966D9112
^^^ Uses electromagnets to stimulate the nervous system patent #05935054 this one might be the key we need for EMS
here is an intresting Idea (literatly have voices in your head)
http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=US0048...RS=PN/4,877,027
http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=059350...ey=25C1966D9112
^^^ Uses electromagnets to stimulate the nervous system patent #05935054 this one might be the key we need for EMS
Here's one too. This one is said to induce drowsiness in a subject up to a distance of 300 meters.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?...5054&RS=5935054
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?...5054&RS=5935054
oo yeah that ones pretty cool, I like how small + low powered it is but it can have profound effects hundreds of feet away, impressive stuff, hehe it might be fun to make..
Report: Silent Sound Spread Spectrum With Goldwave
Okay I got my SSSS up and running on the computer and alls I can say is IT WORKS! yay, although I knew it would their is nothing like the satisfaction of seeing a new toy work. I do have to note that if you use the formula you need to change the x's to * or else you will get a syntax error. But all in all it works well but I do have a few things to comment about. Firstly the mixing of music files with the SSSS is the exact oposite of the original purpose for building the Silent Sound. The reason why Silent Sound was invented was to eliminate the need for music because their is evidence that music interfers with the subliminal message and it is much more effective alone than it is with music. If you wanted to make subliminals with music you could just play music at a normal level and then play the subliminals at a lower level and the subliminal messaging would still occur. I did however try the Silent Sound with music and it worked fine, however I found that if you listen to the music or even the regular recording through headphones you can hear the high pitched sound (cant tell what is being said, I did keep this at the recommended low volume and I definatly wouldnt recommend turning it up), but if played through a speaker it is nearly impossible to notice. If I do recall correctly Silent Sound inc. does sell cd's that have music coupled with them, the purpose for this is also explained in the goldwave file, if you are going for less noticable and easier listening the music mixing is best but if you are going for effectiveness and quicker results the Silent Sound alone is better. I am very happy with the results and I would recommend trying it out.
Also note that Silent Sound with music is more effective and covert than the music with subliminals at a lower volume.
lol mayonaise now onto magnetic stimulation! Il see how feasible it is for us to build it
Update:
Okay this looks very resonable for us to build, it takes two magnets with a ferromagnetic spacer to hold them together or one magnet with a hol through it lol. We also require a shaft and a bearing along with a driver to turn the device, the drivers cirutry is included in the patent Fig.4, I think we can get a working version up and running in no time (note their is also a second device meant for close application that involves multiple coils, this one looks a bit harder to construct Fig.6).
Materials:
-Clock
-Counter
-Display
-Push Button x2
-Driver
-Stepper Motor
-Shaft
-Bearing
Bar magnet
OR
2 Magnets seperated by a Ferromagnetic Spacer
Note: I will check out the close range EMS device too as well as the other close range EMS's (check my last two posts) and I will try to determine which is easiest but still effective and safe.
http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=059350...ey=25C1966D9112
Provides some good information on the details of the close range EMS, luckly it talks about coil specifics too
http://emlib.jpl.nasa.gov/EMLIB/files.html
Tons of EM software, some useful, some not lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil
Types of EM coils, how each one works ect.
http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magelect.htm
Tutorial on constructing a electromagnet
Okay we want to make a electromagnet that has a controlled frequency, to do this we need a bit of math here is the formula for frequency, f = 1/t where f is frequency and t is time. Now to measure time it is the time it takes for one ocillation, now to create or control a frequency we can simply get a ocillatior or a timer (google for 555 timer) and then control the number of cycles per second. Tada! so if we build a electromagnet with a ocillatior we can achieve our desired results, I will look into what exactly is needed for the electromagnet, materials and how to build it, then we have our EMF ELF waves
another meathod for measuring frequency is f = c/y where c is the speed of light and y is the wavelength.
Report: Silent Sound Spread Spectrum With Goldwave
Okay I got my SSSS up and running on the computer and alls I can say is IT WORKS! yay, although I knew it would their is nothing like the satisfaction of seeing a new toy work
. I do have to note that if you use the formula you need to change the x's to * or else you will get a syntax error. But all in all it works well but I do have a few things to comment about. Firstly the mixing of music files with the SSSS is the exact oposite of the original purpose for building the Silent Sound. The reason why Silent Sound was invented was to eliminate the need for music because their is evidence that music interfers with the subliminal message and it is much more effective alone than it is with music. If you wanted to make subliminals with music you could just play music at a normal level and then play the subliminals at a lower level and the subliminal messaging would still occur. I did however try the Silent Sound with music and it worked fine, however I found that if you listen to the music or even the regular recording through headphones you can hear the high pitched sound (cant tell what is being said, I did keep this at the recommended low volume and I definatly wouldnt recommend turning it up), but if played through a speaker it is nearly impossible to notice. If I do recall correctly Silent Sound inc. does sell cd's that have music coupled with them, the purpose for this is also explained in the goldwave file, if you are going for less noticable and easier listening the music mixing is best but if you are going for effectiveness and quicker results the Silent Sound alone is better. I am very happy with the results and I would recommend trying it out. Also note that Silent Sound with music is more effective and covert than the music with subliminals at a lower volume.
lol mayonaise now onto magnetic stimulation! Il see how feasible it is for us to build it
Update:
Okay this looks very resonable for us to build, it takes two magnets with a ferromagnetic spacer to hold them together or one magnet with a hol through it lol. We also require a shaft and a bearing along with a driver to turn the device, the drivers cirutry is included in the patent Fig.4, I think we can get a working version up and running in no time (note their is also a second device meant for close application that involves multiple coils, this one looks a bit harder to construct Fig.6).
Materials:
-Clock
-Counter
-Display
-Push Button x2
-Driver
-Stepper Motor
-Shaft
-Bearing
Bar magnet
OR
2 Magnets seperated by a Ferromagnetic Spacer
Note: I will check out the close range EMS device too as well as the other close range EMS's (check my last two posts) and I will try to determine which is easiest but still effective and safe.
http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=059350...ey=25C1966D9112
Provides some good information on the details of the close range EMS, luckly it talks about coil specifics too
http://emlib.jpl.nasa.gov/EMLIB/files.html
Tons of EM software, some useful, some not lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil
Types of EM coils, how each one works ect.
http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magelect.htm
Tutorial on constructing a electromagnet
Okay we want to make a electromagnet that has a controlled frequency, to do this we need a bit of math here is the formula for frequency, f = 1/t where f is frequency and t is time. Now to measure time it is the time it takes for one ocillation, now to create or control a frequency we can simply get a ocillatior or a timer (google for 555 timer) and then control the number of cycles per second. Tada! so if we build a electromagnet with a ocillatior we can achieve our desired results, I will look into what exactly is needed for the electromagnet, materials and how to build it, then we have our EMF ELF waves
another meathod for measuring frequency is f = c/y where c is the speed of light and y is the wavelength.
So where are we in terms of building this thing? What components do we need, where can we get them, and how much is it going to cost? Where are the schematics?
Max's Guide to building a Electromagnet with controlled frequency
First off this tutorial is still in the works, I still need to do more math for pin pointing the exact dimensions for optimum preformance. You can however try out what is written here, or just give me some feedback, suggestions ect, I will keep working on this throughout the weekend and hopefully by the end of it we will have a mockup of a TMS but I am designing this one so it does not need to be in psychical contact with the person (more safety issues are created the closer you get). Okay this does involve a little math at times but when we are through we should have ourselves a electromagnet. First we have several options on how to go about building one so you will have to choose based on what you want.
Coils:
Okay you need to choose whether you want a powerful electromagnet or one for close range. Electromagnetic fields can be generated by any electricity. In other words your lamp is generating a electromagnetic field, although weak it is creating one. Coil design is another important factor, their are many possibilities but we will be focusing on two mainly.
1. Garrett Type Coil
2. Iron core wrapped with magnetic wire
Now for the record magnetic wire is thin copper wire with a enamel coating and can be bought at radioshack ect. The Garrett Style of coil is basically having magnetic wire that goes around in a circular coil, this may only have one revolution or more, each revolution increases field strength but requires more voltage. Now you can easily change the style of the coil to a figure 8 or whatever you think will work best (the 8 design is the one often employed by TMS). Now the other method is to use a iron core with magnetic wire wrapped around it, this will create a electromagnetic field when electricity is run though it. The iron core method wil produce a much more powerful field and is more suitable for ranged stimulation rather than the close up method. For the most part I will look at the coil method because it is based off of TMS and theirfore has desiarble capabilities (please note garrett only entails the way of generating the field, it is used mostly for metal detectors and we will be straying away from this).
Close Range Coil
Now TMS details coils could have 200 wraps, this isnt something out of the ordinary, to create a electromagnet your coil or coils will have to be well wrapped uniformly. Now one electromagnet guide suggests the use of electrical tape or paper after every wrap or every three wraps, this is done to ensure you have a smooth even surface to put your next wrap on, when wrapping a coil remember to take your time. Now once you have bought your copper wire with enamel coating (should be a fairly thin wire, havent calculated the optimum size yet) and if you have already picked out your coil design then you are ready to begin wrapping, for a good field you will need a lot of wraps (again lots more math to do before I give a solid number, I suggest starting lower and work your way up). Dont forget to check the amount of voltage your wire can take or else things wont be going correctly. Now you start wrapping, try to keep things uniform and wrap consistently in the shape you want, also note that if you wish to just test out the wire and make a electromagnetic field, a single wrap or simply a straight wire will generate a field.
Iron Core Coil:
To make a iron core coil you will need to buy a iron core (anything from bolts to nails, whatevers iron and wrappable works) then you will need to buy some magnetic wire (again its actually thin copper wire with a enamel coating). Once you have these parts you need to wrap the wire around the iron core, for specific tips on how many wraps, exact coil size ect, this can be found at: http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magelect.htm as well as http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Workshop/advice/coils/index.html.
Now that you have your coil made it is time to move on to controlling the frequency of the coil. Firstly you will need a AC power source, this should be a battery, again I do not know the specifics but if you know the max voltage of your wire obviously dont go over that, as a starting point I recommend between 15v - 5v, you can always regulate the amount of power your battery sends if you buy a more poweful one. If you have a lot of wraps you will need a higher voltage for the more wraps you make. Now we have another two options, they are to make a square wave or a sine wave. I am not going into the specifics of diffrent wave formations right now, if you have been active in this forum you probably already know and if not try google. The square wave specifics look better although the sine wave can be more advantageous. Overall I would recommend the square wave circuit simply because it seems a bit easier and manuverable
Square Wave Ciruit:
This circuit uses a 555 timer (usually about $1-$2), we will probably need to replace the 0.01uF capacitor with a higher one to get our ELF's, anyways here is our formula.
Frequency
1/f = 0.69 * C * ( R1 + 2*R2)
Duty Cycle
% duty cycle = 100*(R1+R2)/(R1+ 2*R2)
In order to ensure a 50% (approx.) duty ratio, R1 should be very small when compared to R2. But R1 should be no smaller than 1K. A good choice would be, R1 in kilohms and R2 in megaohms. You can then select C to fix the range of frequencies.
Credits go to http://www.electronic-circuits-diagrams.co...atorsckt1.shtml
Once I have built one (prolly have to wait till monday to get the circuitry) I will post the exact details.
Sine Wave Circuit:
In case of C=C1=C2, R=R1=R2, the oscillation frequency can be calculated by the following formula.
f = 1 / 2piC*R
The example of the circuit which was made this time is shown below.
f = 1/(2 x 3.14 x 0.01 x 10-6 x 15 x 103)
= 1/(0.942 x 10-3)
= 1.062 x 103
= 1,062 Hz
The frequency in the actual circuit was to 900 Hz.
You can change the frequency when you change C1, C2, R1 and R2 of the circuit diagram. In the relation of the balance at the bridge, you had better make C1=C2, R1=R2. Even if it is different little, it is possible to oscillate. I believe this circuit calls for DC voltage so you will have to check on modifying it unless you intend to use DC for your coil, for the long range (iron core) coil this is easily done but I am unsure about the short range one.
Credits go to http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt18.htm for the equation and diagram
Now once you have completed your circuit and have made your coil you need to connect your battery (square wave accepts 5v - 15v, il check about modifying for a higher voltage) and then one of your wires to the NE 555 timer # 3. The other wire connects to the - of the battery and then you have your entire EMF. If you want to have your frequency more easily changed, try using variable resistors.
This is of course not a finished tutorial, it gives you all the info you need to get started on building a electromagnet with frequency controls, I will try to get one up and running soon. Their is a lot of options for what to build your coil out of ect. I would recommend starting with a garrett style coil with a square wave circuit, you can even buy circuit boards where you dont need to sauder them on, just insert and ur done lol (known as a breadboard). I would recommend not putting in to many wraps to start off, simply because it takes more voltage and we are limited to 15v's until I figure out how to change the circuit to take more. Finally once you are done building everything how do you tell the magnet strength? TADA you need to build a guass meter and it is fairly cheap to do so http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magmeter.htm
First off this tutorial is still in the works, I still need to do more math for pin pointing the exact dimensions for optimum preformance. You can however try out what is written here, or just give me some feedback, suggestions ect, I will keep working on this throughout the weekend and hopefully by the end of it we will have a mockup of a TMS but I am designing this one so it does not need to be in psychical contact with the person (more safety issues are created the closer you get). Okay this does involve a little math at times but when we are through we should have ourselves a electromagnet. First we have several options on how to go about building one so you will have to choose based on what you want.
Coils:
Okay you need to choose whether you want a powerful electromagnet or one for close range. Electromagnetic fields can be generated by any electricity. In other words your lamp is generating a electromagnetic field, although weak it is creating one. Coil design is another important factor, their are many possibilities but we will be focusing on two mainly.
1. Garrett Type Coil
2. Iron core wrapped with magnetic wire
Now for the record magnetic wire is thin copper wire with a enamel coating and can be bought at radioshack ect. The Garrett Style of coil is basically having magnetic wire that goes around in a circular coil, this may only have one revolution or more, each revolution increases field strength but requires more voltage. Now you can easily change the style of the coil to a figure 8 or whatever you think will work best (the 8 design is the one often employed by TMS). Now the other method is to use a iron core with magnetic wire wrapped around it, this will create a electromagnetic field when electricity is run though it. The iron core method wil produce a much more powerful field and is more suitable for ranged stimulation rather than the close up method. For the most part I will look at the coil method because it is based off of TMS and theirfore has desiarble capabilities (please note garrett only entails the way of generating the field, it is used mostly for metal detectors and we will be straying away from this).
Close Range Coil
Now TMS details coils could have 200 wraps, this isnt something out of the ordinary, to create a electromagnet your coil or coils will have to be well wrapped uniformly. Now one electromagnet guide suggests the use of electrical tape or paper after every wrap or every three wraps, this is done to ensure you have a smooth even surface to put your next wrap on, when wrapping a coil remember to take your time. Now once you have bought your copper wire with enamel coating (should be a fairly thin wire, havent calculated the optimum size yet) and if you have already picked out your coil design then you are ready to begin wrapping, for a good field you will need a lot of wraps (again lots more math to do before I give a solid number, I suggest starting lower and work your way up). Dont forget to check the amount of voltage your wire can take or else things wont be going correctly. Now you start wrapping, try to keep things uniform and wrap consistently in the shape you want, also note that if you wish to just test out the wire and make a electromagnetic field, a single wrap or simply a straight wire will generate a field.
Iron Core Coil:
To make a iron core coil you will need to buy a iron core (anything from bolts to nails, whatevers iron and wrappable works) then you will need to buy some magnetic wire (again its actually thin copper wire with a enamel coating). Once you have these parts you need to wrap the wire around the iron core, for specific tips on how many wraps, exact coil size ect, this can be found at: http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magelect.htm as well as http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Workshop/advice/coils/index.html.
Now that you have your coil made it is time to move on to controlling the frequency of the coil. Firstly you will need a AC power source, this should be a battery, again I do not know the specifics but if you know the max voltage of your wire obviously dont go over that, as a starting point I recommend between 15v - 5v, you can always regulate the amount of power your battery sends if you buy a more poweful one. If you have a lot of wraps you will need a higher voltage for the more wraps you make. Now we have another two options, they are to make a square wave or a sine wave. I am not going into the specifics of diffrent wave formations right now, if you have been active in this forum you probably already know and if not try google. The square wave specifics look better although the sine wave can be more advantageous. Overall I would recommend the square wave circuit simply because it seems a bit easier and manuverable
Square Wave Ciruit:
This circuit uses a 555 timer (usually about $1-$2), we will probably need to replace the 0.01uF capacitor with a higher one to get our ELF's, anyways here is our formula.
Frequency
1/f = 0.69 * C * ( R1 + 2*R2)
Duty Cycle
% duty cycle = 100*(R1+R2)/(R1+ 2*R2)
In order to ensure a 50% (approx.) duty ratio, R1 should be very small when compared to R2. But R1 should be no smaller than 1K. A good choice would be, R1 in kilohms and R2 in megaohms. You can then select C to fix the range of frequencies.
Credits go to http://www.electronic-circuits-diagrams.co...atorsckt1.shtml
Once I have built one (prolly have to wait till monday to get the circuitry) I will post the exact details.
Sine Wave Circuit:
In case of C=C1=C2, R=R1=R2, the oscillation frequency can be calculated by the following formula.
f = 1 / 2piC*R
The example of the circuit which was made this time is shown below.
f = 1/(2 x 3.14 x 0.01 x 10-6 x 15 x 103)
= 1/(0.942 x 10-3)
= 1.062 x 103
= 1,062 Hz
The frequency in the actual circuit was to 900 Hz.
You can change the frequency when you change C1, C2, R1 and R2 of the circuit diagram. In the relation of the balance at the bridge, you had better make C1=C2, R1=R2. Even if it is different little, it is possible to oscillate. I believe this circuit calls for DC voltage so you will have to check on modifying it unless you intend to use DC for your coil, for the long range (iron core) coil this is easily done but I am unsure about the short range one.
Credits go to http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt18.htm for the equation and diagram
Now once you have completed your circuit and have made your coil you need to connect your battery (square wave accepts 5v - 15v, il check about modifying for a higher voltage) and then one of your wires to the NE 555 timer # 3. The other wire connects to the - of the battery and then you have your entire EMF. If you want to have your frequency more easily changed, try using variable resistors.
This is of course not a finished tutorial, it gives you all the info you need to get started on building a electromagnet with frequency controls, I will try to get one up and running soon. Their is a lot of options for what to build your coil out of ect. I would recommend starting with a garrett style coil with a square wave circuit, you can even buy circuit boards where you dont need to sauder them on, just insert and ur done lol (known as a breadboard). I would recommend not putting in to many wraps to start off, simply because it takes more voltage and we are limited to 15v's until I figure out how to change the circuit to take more. Finally once you are done building everything how do you tell the magnet strength? TADA you need to build a guass meter and it is fairly cheap to do so http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magmeter.htm
This is great. Now we're getting somewhere. Any ideas on how much all of this will cost, in total?
umm well lemme think here, if you go for the garrett style coil I am guessing the coil will be about $4 (it really depends on how much you get, usually comes in small spools) the breadboard may cost about $7, its cheaper to buy a breadboard than a sauder, if you have a sauder itl cost $1-2 for the board. Then you need to buy the parts, the 555 timer is about $2 and for the rest of the circuity I would guess about $5. The battery should be about $3? so all in all typically it will cost: $21
Thats my best guess anyways good luck with constructing it, I will get shopping for parts once im done here also note that stores specifically selling electronics (capacitors, resistors, specialty cabling) will have better quality and selection than places like radioshack
Also if your looking for electronic supplier I usually just google: electronic supply "insert city here"
If you build a Guass Meter from the tutorial http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magmeter.htm It should cost about $42 if you dont have a digi volt meter and $17 if you do. However the Gauss meter isnt nessecary until doing some advanced shiznak like TMS or long range stimulation to calculate your range
Thats my best guess anyways good luck with constructing it, I will get shopping for parts once im done here
also note that stores specifically selling electronics (capacitors, resistors, specialty cabling) will have better quality and selection than places like radioshackAlso if your looking for electronic supplier I usually just google: electronic supply "insert city here"
If you build a Guass Meter from the tutorial http://my.execpc.com/~rhoadley/magmeter.htm It should cost about $42 if you dont have a digi volt meter and $17 if you do. However the Gauss meter isnt nessecary until doing some advanced shiznak like TMS or long range stimulation to calculate your range
Great. that's pocket change. I was thinking it might cost several hundred.
lol well thats more of the beta version dont forget, once we get into a more powerful version we will need to add things like cooling systems for the unit if we start creating more powerful waves, if we do a TMS system then their will be very LOUD noises. I dont know about going that far though, a good website about the ELF EMF effects is here http://www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/elf.htm also note that with a close range system the closer you get generally the more powerful the effects are. I am still looking into the long range system and it could produce very intresting results. Anyways once you build the system dont forget to post a report here Hopefully by the time a final version of the EMF is built I will have gotten a EEG to see the exact changes
If you come across anyways of enhancing the EMF effects be sure to post it so we can improve the system ^^. Anyways I have to get going in about 1/2 an hour so il research what I can until then as far as the cooling system goes we will only need it if the wires start heating up because of the voltage.
For the second version I am looking at a patent which has something similar to the beta design which is listed in post #70. try checking page 10 in the patent images for a good description of the close range device.. patent # 5935054
Hopefully by the time a final version of the EMF is built I will have gotten a EEG to see the exact changesIf you come across anyways of enhancing the EMF effects be sure to post it so we can improve the system ^^. Anyways I have to get going in about 1/2 an hour so il research what I can until then as far as the cooling system goes we will only need it if the wires start heating up because of the voltage.
For the second version I am looking at a patent which has something similar to the beta design which is listed in post #70. try checking page 10 in the patent images for a good description of the close range device.. patent # 5935054
Great job with the tutorial.
I wish I had my brain working well enough to start putting up one myself but now I'll just try to help where I can.
Some thoughts: if you know enough about electronics, then a gauss meter may not be necessary in the beginning. But if you don't, then it might be a good precaution to check the field strength before testing it on your brain.
I wonder what is the difference between an LM 555 and the NE 555 you mention (the LM555 is said to be a very old chip). One engineer said that the LM555 is not very accurate but it may be hard to tell if it's performance is adequate for this purpose. Also the 555 gives 1.7 volts less than the power supply so take that into account when you calculate. There are plenty of 555 material out there.
I wish I had my brain working well enough to start putting up one myself but now I'll just try to help where I can.
Some thoughts: if you know enough about electronics, then a gauss meter may not be necessary in the beginning. But if you don't, then it might be a good precaution to check the field strength before testing it on your brain.
I wonder what is the difference between an LM 555 and the NE 555 you mention (the LM555 is said to be a very old chip). One engineer said that the LM555 is not very accurate but it may be hard to tell if it's performance is adequate for this purpose. Also the 555 gives 1.7 volts less than the power supply so take that into account when you calculate. There are plenty of 555 material out there.
hehe well im taking a short break from my research cause I went all out last weekend and I have to catch up on some other sh*t so I should have updates soon enough
^.^ I found a patent for TMS, looks like were in buisness guys.. patent# 6,132,361 and the key to finding it was "neotonus"..
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?...=%22neotonus%22
http://www.ists.unibe.ch/ here is the international society for transcranial stimulation
http://www.magstim.com/index.html intresting site for another stimulation manufactuer
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?...=%22neotonus%22
http://www.ists.unibe.ch/ here is the international society for transcranial stimulation
http://www.magstim.com/index.html intresting site for another stimulation manufactuer
First impressions: good find. "the present inventions are much smaller, quieter, and more efficient, requiring no special cooling."
yeah which is a plus so we dont blow our ear drums or sineg our scalps lol.
....hmmm, the 'affect' of repitition and the time frame between each occurence/appearance.
amplitude and wavelength
amplitude and wavelength
QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Feb 27, 04:11 PM)
....hmmm, the 'affect' of repitition and the time frame between each occurence/appearance.
amplitude and wavelength
well trip TMS relies on extremly precise timing last a few seconds at the most, during this time massive amounts of electromagnetic energy is released which in turn stimulates a targeted area. rTMS relies on repetetive bursts of electromagnetic energy used to due things like increase creativity (while under the rTMS) or change the state of mind.. now with the old TMS' during these times their used to be 100db + of noise generates although this will not blow eardrums it can be heard for blocks and before the coil required a cooling system for the appropriate energy cause a lot of heat in the coils..
However you are correct with the notion that amplitude and wavelength are important, the waves must be powerful enought to enter the brain and the frequency is tuned dependant on the desired efffect (positioning of the coils is also very important)
sweet,
....now that's what I'm talking about. Although I usually go about things (planting seeds) in an abstract manner.
....however, the human perceptual aperati are only capable of tuning in certain frequecies and only between certain levels of those frequencies.
That means that there are many realities occuring under the levels of human awareness....and yes, of course, we have been steadily developing mechanical extensions of the sensorial organs (visual, auditory, tactile, scent, taste) so as to tap into those frequencies (through amplification and magnification), but many,many, many still remain.
"...the closer you get generally the more powerful the effects are..."
....now that's what I'm talking about. Although I usually go about things (planting seeds) in an abstract manner.
....however, the human perceptual aperati are only capable of tuning in certain frequecies and only between certain levels of those frequencies.
That means that there are many realities occuring under the levels of human awareness....and yes, of course, we have been steadily developing mechanical extensions of the sensorial organs (visual, auditory, tactile, scent, taste) so as to tap into those frequencies (through amplification and magnification), but many,many, many still remain.
"...the closer you get generally the more powerful the effects are..."
mm I have to agree it would be foolish to assume the senses we have now are the only ones we are capable of, the frequencies for tms are usually measured very preciesly, their a set frequency that has effects on one thing and so on and so on lol. It is usually very low like 1hz, 1/2 hz ect. But its effects work quite well
Visually, I think we are attuned from 300 mhz(?) to 800 mhz(?)....and the levels of awareness vary from individual to individual (relative and subjective).
What intrigues me is what is occuring beneath the surface of our sensorial capacities.
What intrigues me is what is occuring beneath the surface of our sensorial capacities.
mm that sounds fairly close to the range trip, well what we were discussing in their are no gods or gurus to save you, was that everyone interprets the same thing diffrently due to the diffrent filters in our brain, so what you see is not what actually exists but what your brain created through a variety of variables. So maybe that will give you a good insight into what happens once a person uses any of their senses, also a good place to look is a NLP book they usually go into depth about sensory filters ect. If you are intrested in learning more il post some more detailed info for you ...
...
Democritus (460-362 BC), a Greek philosopher, stated that since knowledge is based on perception, all truths are relative and subjective.
· He guessed that all matter is composed of invisible particles (atoms) of different shapes linked together in different combinations (String Theory?).
· Every object gives off or imprints on the atoms of the air images of itself, which travel through the air, reach the eye of the beholder, and there interact with its atoms. The product of that interaction passes to the mind and, in turn, interacts with its atoms.
Perception
· It is the selection, organization, and interpretation of sensory input and translating it into something meaningful.
· Sensory organs absorb energy from physical stimuli in the environment and convert them into neural impulses, which are sent to the brain, which organizes and translates info into something meaningful.
· Sensation is the stimulus of sense organs.
Alcmaeon – said that the sense organs send perceptions to the brain, where, by means of thinking, we interpret them and derive ideas from them.
· His emphasis on perception as the source of knowledge was the beginning of epistemology – the study of how we acquire knowledge.
Protagoras (485-411 BC) was best known of the Sophists – a term that meant ‘teachers of wisdom’.
· He stated that since perception was the only source of knowledge, there could be no absolute truth.
· Man is the measure of all things – any given thing is to me as it appears to me to be, and, if it appears different to you, is what it seems to you to be. Each perception is true for each perceiver
· He guessed that all matter is composed of invisible particles (atoms) of different shapes linked together in different combinations (String Theory?).
· Every object gives off or imprints on the atoms of the air images of itself, which travel through the air, reach the eye of the beholder, and there interact with its atoms. The product of that interaction passes to the mind and, in turn, interacts with its atoms.
Perception
· It is the selection, organization, and interpretation of sensory input and translating it into something meaningful.
· Sensory organs absorb energy from physical stimuli in the environment and convert them into neural impulses, which are sent to the brain, which organizes and translates info into something meaningful.
· Sensation is the stimulus of sense organs.
Alcmaeon – said that the sense organs send perceptions to the brain, where, by means of thinking, we interpret them and derive ideas from them.
· His emphasis on perception as the source of knowledge was the beginning of epistemology – the study of how we acquire knowledge.
Protagoras (485-411 BC) was best known of the Sophists – a term that meant ‘teachers of wisdom’.
· He stated that since perception was the only source of knowledge, there could be no absolute truth.
· Man is the measure of all things – any given thing is to me as it appears to me to be, and, if it appears different to you, is what it seems to you to be. Each perception is true for each perceiver
Relative Temporal Coding - the relative time elapsed between spikes or the sequencing of spikes encodes information regarding the relationship between events or objects
QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Feb 28, 03:20 AM)
....however, the human perceptual aperati are only capable of tuning in certain frequecies and only between certain levels of those frequencies.
That means that there are many realities occuring under the levels of human awareness....
That means that there are many realities occuring under the levels of human awareness....
Umm, how does this follow? Please explain. And what do you mean by "realities"?
Hi everybody,
very interesting place you have here, dudes...
A little precision though, it seems that the source of the text in the following post:
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) uses pulses of electromagnetic field that induce an electric field...
has been unfortunately omitted...
Since it's a part of chapter 17 in Alex Ramonsky's book: "I've Changed My Mind", and since I've read it...
Aside that, I wondered if anyone here knew about a way to use other software / other signals than Todd Murphy's ones, with the (I know... NMS...) Shakti helmet?
Keep up the good work,
Scalino
very interesting place you have here, dudes...
A little precision though, it seems that the source of the text in the following post:
QUOTE(mayonaise @ Feb 12, 03:24 PM)
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) uses pulses of electromagnetic field that induce an electric field...
has been unfortunately omitted...
Since it's a part of chapter 17 in Alex Ramonsky's book: "I've Changed My Mind", and since I've read it...
Aside that, I wondered if anyone here knew about a way to use other software / other signals than Todd Murphy's ones, with the (I know... NMS...) Shakti helmet?
Keep up the good work,
Scalino
QUOTE(mayonaise @ Feb 28, 12:57 AM)
QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Feb 28, 03:20 AM)
....however, the human perceptual aperati are only capable of tuning in certain frequecies and only between certain levels of those frequencies.
That means that there are many realities occuring under the levels of human awareness....
That means that there are many realities occuring under the levels of human awareness....
Umm, how does this follow? Please explain. And what do you mean by "realities"?
that is your challenge dude, if you really want to know you'll figure it out.
you know what I like about mayonaise, is how easily it spreads.
Remember, only 1% ever actually achieve higher dimensional illumination and self-actualize!
QUOTE(Scalino Corleone @ Feb 28, 10:48 AM)
Hi everybody,
very interesting place you have here, dudes...
A little precision though, it seems that the source of the text in the following post:
QUOTE(mayonaise @ Feb 12, 03:24 PM)
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) uses pulses of electromagnetic field that induce an electric field...
has been unfortunately omitted...
Since it's a part of chapter 17 in Alex Ramonsky's book: "I've Changed My Mind", and since I've read it...
Aside that, I wondered if anyone here knew about a way to use other software / other signals than Todd Murphy's ones, with the (I know... NMS...) Shakti helmet?
Keep up the good work,
Scalino
Hi, well the possibilities are almost endless for achieving neural stimulation, the old way is of course electrical stimulation but the unfortunate side effects is why is is being replaced by magnetic stimulation which is wayy safer. Now their are some problems with the Shakti helmet, it is used mostly by people trying to achieve astral projection, psychic abilities ect. So their is very little work being done on fighting depression, improving memory ect. It is mostly seen as another device used to connect you with other demensions, although the creator has a degree concerning neurology their is only about 120 people who use Shakti. The nice thing about TMS is that it is widely studied by both psychologists and neurobiologists ect. This allows us to see some accurate documentation of TMS, its effects and the proper use of it. However their is also a lot of other good MS techniques that should not be discounted, their is a wide array of patents for Magnetic stimulation, many of which have been posted in this topic.. Also you could check out my Magnetic Stimulation guide, as far as software is concerned unfortunatly I have not found alot, unless you know low level programming on a very deep level then you could manipulate the computers own hardware to generate a powerful magnetic field, the chances of making a magnetic field through JUST a software program are slim. Some TMS does use software programs integrated with it so you can control the field very accuratly, but the only ones I know of are commercial, unless someone was nice enough to copy write their entire source code for the program you might be able to get it that way. Their is really a great range of things you can do for magnetic stimulation, I would recommend deciding exactly what your needs are and your budget because MS varies from $20 to tens of thousands. But if you are looking for some MS ideas the first place I look is the patent website, it is said that 80% of technology is patented...and again if you search back through the topic you will find quite a few of them posted already. Also sometimes it is easier to just make your own software too, if you have trouble finding anything learning a low level language and then connecting your hardware to your computer isnt too difficult.
QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Feb 28, 11:13 AM)
QUOTE(mayonaise @ Feb 28, 12:57 AM)
QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Feb 28, 03:20 AM)
....however, the human perceptual aperati are only capable of tuning in certain frequecies and only between certain levels of those frequencies.
That means that there are many realities occuring under the levels of human awareness....
That means that there are many realities occuring under the levels of human awareness....
Umm, how does this follow? Please explain. And what do you mean by "realities"?
that is your challenge dude, if you really want to know you'll figure it out.
you know what I like about mayonaise, is how easily it spreads.
Remember, only 1% ever actually achieve higher dimensional illumination and self-actualize!
hmm 1% is still actually a fairly large amount trip, 1% of 7 billion.. 70 million people self actualize. Although this does not seem like much out of the 7 billion you also need to consider a number of variables. If we even loosely follow the hiechary table I listed in z other topic we can remember that you need to at least not be starving in order to self actualize. Now absolute poverty is aprrox 1.1 billion as of 2001, that cuts out a huge percentage of eligable self actualizers, (note absolute poverty is earning less than $1 a day). Now about 50% live on less than $2 a day.. I still think that is low enough to at least make it more than normally difficult for self actualization. So now we have sliced the number of eligable people in half with about 3 or so billion people eligable for self actualization. Now lets combine that with the % of children (it is resonable to assume most children under 14 are not going to be on a self actualization mission) so approx 20%, lets divide that figure in half since we divide the eligable people in half and we get somewhere around 10% are under 14 out of our eligable 3 or so billion. So lets say 3.3 billion - 10% = 297 billion people now lets take that figure and think about the amount of people who know what self actualization is + the number who seek it out and you get a much better chance than originally appears.. even if we keep the 297 billion number we get a 1 in 42 people self actualize, or 2.38% which is actually higher cause I am not adding in the people who know what self actualization is & the number who attempt to self actualize which I specualte would cause the percent to be much higher. Tell me what you think trip I am trying to gain perspective on this so if I missed something feel free to add it..
....yes, gradually we are collectively crawling out from the turbid depts of our universal ignorance and establishing cosmic consciousness, a quantum paradigm (a grand unified theory or a theory of everything).
....and through engagement particles become eternally entagled.
It takes visionaries and revolutionaries to help facilite growth towards the universal potentiality of hyperrealized spatio/temporal states.
....and through engagement particles become eternally entagled.
It takes visionaries and revolutionaries to help facilite growth towards the universal potentiality of hyperrealized spatio/temporal states.
haha yeah you make a good point though, I hardly see most people being able to self actualize sheerly from their ignorance, but never the less their are those who can go past arbitrary notions and ideals and enter into a diffrent level of thinking..
[quote name='maximus242' date='Feb 27, 10:19 PM' post='59964']
....due to the diffrent filters in our brain....
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....can you explain what angle your taking here and expand on 'filters'?
....due to the diffrent filters in our brain....
[quote]
....can you explain what angle your taking here and expand on 'filters'?
Sure Trip, we each have a mental map which is comprised of billions of recorded sensory stimuli, otherwise known as experience. Now this of course means that our maps are all diffrent due to the diffrent experiences we have. This includes everything from upbringing, backgrounds and even values. Now on a sub-consciouss level we vary even more greatly, because we interpret these stimuli and give all of these senses diffrent meanings. These meanings translate into our beliefs, attitudes and transient feelings. Now these maps are often refered to as filters all of our sensory stimuli has to pass through these filters, anything we smell, touch ect. This is what happens before the stimuli is translated into understanding and experience.. So in other words before we see, feel ect. in our brain it first has to go through a filter which interprets the stimuli, it can also put emphasis on diffrent stimuli which all results in changing our reality..
QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Feb 28, 08:13 PM)
Remember, only 1% ever actually achieve higher dimensional illumination and self-actualize!
:-) That reminds me of Josh Winks "h i g h e r s t a t e s o f c o n s c i o u s n e s s "
QUOTE(Trip like I do @ Feb 28, 08:13 PM)
that is your challenge dude, if you really want to know you'll figure it out.
you know what I like about mayonaise, is how easily it spreads.
Ha. This is really sad, because if you google "spirituality higher realities" you get like a million pages and I don't have time to shift them all through so that's why when a person you think is one of those with a scientific mindset then it's a rare gem actually and a pointer may spark the enthusiasm even in a somewhat depressed mind. Otherwise it will probably end up like a tear in rain or time and maybe it'll moisten my nose the next time it rains but not necessarily.
Oh and btw Scalino, welcome, it's your comfy pillow from the land of cyclers here - hence the ICMM quote
umm mayonaise I dont think Trip is focusing on looking for other plains of reality, you need to look inwardly for self actualization, googling for spiritual plains will only get you one thing.. a giant pile of elephant sh*t lol, for achieving diffrent levels of consiousness it requires you to look at yourself and then change your own reality and your perception of it rather than searching from guru to guru on achieving a higher plane.
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