Okay after doing an exhastive amount of research into the truth here are my findings (and I do mean ALOT of time), anyways on with the topic.

People have searched for the truth since the dawn of realization that things are not always that which they appear to be. Since then their have been many people who have stepped forward with ideologies about one or more aspects of life (religions obviously are geared towards the "truth" about what happens when you die). As most of us can agree no one is without fault, even the mighty science has been proven wrong and wrong again (scientists are obviously not always right, just like the rest of us). I think the reason why science is given more weight throughout the world is because its statements and ideas can be tested in this reality, we do not need to die before we can find out if their is a heaven. So in this almighty search for the truth their is a obvious diffrence of opinion of who is right and who is wrong. But how does one go about finding out who is ultimatly correct? Their in lies the problem, after considering all the possibilities I hit a bit of a wall.

The problem is that no matter how right a person might *appear* to be it does not nessecarily make them correct, think for a moment about what this life could really be? We could be in a psychical world, a giant computer, a childs dream, the possibilities are literally endless. So how do you determine what is correct? their is no solid method of determining who is truely right or wrong. The reason why is because first of all we all have diffrent views about reality, within these views lie diffrences of opinion. These diffrent opinions about what reality even is causes a major problem with determining correctness about any situation. For example: Your dog see's a box, since your dog only see's in black and white he determines that this box is grey. You on the other hand see this box and since you see in 2 million diffrent colors you determine this box is red. How do you tell who is right? how do you know your brain is not simply interpreting the diffrent shades of grey and turning them into colors according to the color spectrum? This is exactly the kind of problem that makes truth more of a fantasy then fact. I have determined that truth is in fact an opinion, a interpretation of ones own perception. Who is right or wrong seems almost petty when you think about it, why are we constantly battling over arbritrary facts which cannot be more proven to be correct than anything else? Hell for all we know all of our memories (i discussed this further in the who am i? thread) could just be false and we may of lived completly diffrent lives until a short time ago. In truth nothing is true, and I realize that if nothing is true and everything is an opinion then according to myself even the statement truth is an opinion is also an opinon and of course may be wrong.

Anyways I am intrested in what you guys think so drop a reply n let me know ^.=

There are many truths but one that has resonated throughout the years for me is, "You are your deepest desire".

In many psychological studies it has shown that we are attracted to those who are most similar to us, it is also the reasoning behind the effectiveness of "mirroring". But with that said does "You are your deepest desire" go against the notion that "opposites attract"? It has been shown that a women (through scent) will seek out a man with a diffrent immune system than her own so that they will have a more disease immune child. So again this can often be the problem of what is "true", on one hand if we like ourselves then it is natural that we would enjoy the company of others similar to us, but on the other hand if we are attracted to people who are similar to us then we do not gain the full benifit of using other peoples skills, talents, DNA est. So are we attracted most to people the opposite of us or most similar to us? or neither?

What I said has nothing to do with opposites attracting and mating rituals. What I meant was that our essence is our deepest desire that defines us. I do not know how prevalent these deepest desires are. It's possible some people go through life aimlessly without a deepest desire. Such people are of no consequence. Our deepest desire is something that goes beyond the individual. By remaining faithful to your deepest desire, you will go beyond yourself. Such is one of the the ways in which individuals evoke changes much greater than themselves.

Our deepest desire is that thing that forms your core and defines and directs your life. Your life should be subservient to your deepest desire. Your deepest desire is primary; it goes beyond the individual. By becoming our deepest desire, we transcend ourselves.

Correct me if I am wrong but it sounds like you are speaking more about metaphysical existance rather than the limited existance in this form. It seems like you are talking about a deep uncontrolable desire that bypasses counciouss thought and is more of a basic need like food or water. If I am reading your reply correctly you are saying that this deep desire is more used to define the soul rather than the individual. One part that I am a tad unclear about is about remaining faithful to the deepest desire, if you are your own deepest desire and you need to remain faithful to it than do you not accomplish that by simply existing? i.e I am my own deepest desire, I am myself and therefore I remain faithful to my deepest desire. I am a bit unclear how one actually does not remain faithful to their own deepest desire? I mean it is common knowlege that throughout ones life span changes in personality and physical make up do occur, therefore if a person is constantly changing and ones deepest desire is ones own self than even if you change you are still accomplishing the task of remaining faithful to ones own deepest desire. Now if you are talking about defining ones self in a more metaphysical sense how do you find what your own deepest desire is except by looking inwardly?

>>Correct me if I am wrong but it sounds like you are speaking more about metaphysical existance rather than the limited existance in this form.

What is metaphysical about it? I am talking about things we can directly experience.

>>It seems like you are talking about a deep uncontrolable desire that bypasses counciouss thought and is more of a basic need like food or water.

No. There is nothing uncontrollable about desires. Desires fuel our activity. When we become conscious of them, which I think we often do, we can choose whether to allow them to fuel our activity or not. We can consciously choose whether to catch the wave or not.

>>If I am reading your reply correctly you are saying that this deep desire is more used to define the soul rather than the individual.

please, no talk of 'souls' lest we evoke images of angels and the holy moley mother virgin mary too. There is too much baggage associated with that term.

>>One part that I am a tad unclear about is about remaining faithful to the deepest desire, if you are your own deepest desire and you need to remain faithful to it than do you not accomplish that by simply existing? i.e I am my own deepest desire, I am myself and therefore I remain faithful to my deepest desire.

No. simply existing is not an option. That is not what life is about. That is not why you are here. Our deepest desires are those massive waves from within our depths that we choose to ride to different places and to elevate us to different levels. These deepest desires allow us to accomplish what otherwise we could not. These deepest desires transcend the individual. Many people can ride the same wave.

>>I am a bit unclear how one actually does not remain faithful to their own deepest desire?

One does not remain faithful by choosing not to ride the wave of their deepest desire to the end.

>>Now if you are talking about defining ones self in a more metaphysical sense how do you find what your own deepest desire is except by looking inwardly?

Looking inwardly has its uses, but I don't think your deepest desire is hiding under a rock. It will present itself to your consciousness, and you will have a choice.

>>One part that I am a tad unclear about is about remaining faithful to the deepest desire, if you are your own deepest desire and you need to remain faithful to it than do you not accomplish that by simply existing? i.e I am my own deepest desire, I am myself and therefore I remain faithful to my deepest desire.

No. simply existing is not an option. That is not what life is about. That is not why you are here. Our deepest desires are those massive waves from within our depths that we choose to ride to different places and to elevate us to different levels. These deepest desires allow us to accomplish what otherwise we could not. These deepest desires transcend the individual. Many people can ride the same wave.

I think your being a tad bit cryptic, I was not trying to state that existing is an opinion. Although what it means to exist is open to interpretation. Now you said "That is not what life is about. That is not why you are here." are you claiming to know the meaning of life? Also can you even define what life is? their is such a broad range of definitions of what life actually is. Now you said "These deepest desires allow us to accomplish what otherwise we could not." what proof do you have that without these desires we would not be able to accomplish the same goals? Now you say that "these desires trancend the individual" if they trancend the individual and "many people can ride the same wave" then you are doing a depersonalization of the individual. I also have a question regarding your deep desires idea, are you claiming these desires are static or dynamic? and who decides what these desires are? I will assume for a moment it is the individual, if the individual does decide these desires or like you said they have to choose, wouldnt the individual choose the option more desirable to ones self? In other words if a man is given the choice between being stabbed or sleeping wouldnt he choose the one MORE desirable to him and theirfore the one he chooses would be the deeper of the desires?

Maximus, your post suggests that you are coming at this from the wrong angle and that the best way for me to provide answers to your questions is by offering some advice: Live your next decade or so of life very intensely, as if you only had that decade to live. At the end of that time, retrospect on your last decade of life. How did you accomplish what you did? How did you get to where you are? What is the nature of what motivated you? Do this, and you will better understand what I posted.

Hmm my life has been more of a shakespearian tragedy. In a sense I tried so very hard to do things the right and just way, but in the end I did not recieve anything but pain and suffering. Now I am simply trying to get back the life I once had, after five years of trying I am getting tired but still I keep going on. I will continue not because I need to but because I choose to, regardless of what pains I have had I am still the person who accomplishes what others claim impossible. I do what I do because I desire to have more than what is given before me or what I am told I can do, whether or not I manage to succed seems irrelivant because in the end I will know that I tried my hardest for what I wanted most instead of settling for what I was given.

what did you once have?

umm well.. it was something important to me.

sometimes it's better to move forward to something new than to recapture something you once had.

Yeah I suppose you are speaking wisely lucid but for now even if I am grasping at straws at least I have something to hang onto lol. It is of course foolish to assume that things can go back to the same way and I do not intend for such a thing to happen I am actually trying to look towards making the future into what I hope to be.

I'm not speaking wisely, but I am trying to speak honestly