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Enki
QUOTE(Rick @ Jul 31, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 30, 12:59 AM) *
I guess Rick, you should not discard possibility of existence of the "virtual things" from your ontology.
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Have you read my Enki’s Experiments description related with Red, Blue and Green Pillows described in one of the two mirror threads about magic mushrooms in this forum?

The "virtual things" like numbers, as I explained, don't have existence in the sense that matter and consciousness do, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't consider them. The virtual things are very important in our lives, but they don't rate inclusion in my ontology. It's an anti-idealism ontology that is, of course, anti-Platonic.

As for the colored pillow experiment, I read what you wrote. What were your results? I don't take dreams very seriously.


Under "virtual things" you can understand quite many things. Even a virtual intellectual being.

Results of a pure experiment of Enki, when a person sleeps with black sleeping velvet glasses and does not see the colors of the pillows and does not know about the colors and the pillows anything, show that the dreams he sees, can be parted on three different topics by their mood and feeling experienced.
Inductive studies show that the experiment is reproducible. Thus, one can conclude that something related with Light affects on brain functionality: light parameters modulation somehow affects on human brain. Thus, you can somehow input information (even if it has a chaotic character) into human brain from outside.
This simple experiment does not require any funding to conduct an independent study. Any small group of enthusiasts even in Burkina-Faso can make that experiment of Enki.

Certainly another experiment should be conducted to check out that human brain can transmit information to others brains. If you wish, I can provide extremely simple experimental scheme which can prove that supposition in a day.

Thus if one can experimentally show that human brain can wirelessly, somehow receive information from outside and transmit some sort of info to other terminals (human brains) even in a chaotic and uncertain form, then taking into account that the number of the terminals (human brains) on our planet is very high, then there is a great probability that in that chaotic cybernetic reality associated with human brains some "virtual things" can exist with some probability.

I can suggest you series of experiments, not requiring any funding, which can somehow exhibit interesting phenomena, which analysis may incline to a hypothesis that the "virtual things" possibly can exist.

Certainly, those "virtual things" (if their exist) can affect on world politics, human life and quite many things as well and cannot be ignored like me.

I understand that you do not take dreams seriously. But I am not a dream and I do exist definitely. And I do not work on secret governmental project as it was joked here. I am just an Enki from far away country whom you will forget after few days if I start one day not to post anything here .
Enki
Who knows, maybe political conglomerates of the "Virtual things" (if they exist) can declare wars against some governments of the Earth. Some sort of Invisible War. They can inspire terrorists, control dictators, cast spell over presidents. Incline airplane captains to make vital mistakes. E.g. kill the Patriarch of Alexandria I was writing about in my earliest posts, when I have registered on this forum. Inspire terrorists to conduct 911 terror acts. Use Words Matrixes. laugh.gif And who knows, they may even have supporters on earth. And maybe another Good political conglomerate of the "Virtual things" tries to let people to know about the danger of loosing the Free Will. And quite many other things.

Do you understand what I mean Rick? ...
rhymer
Hi Enki,

Have you read about the Luscher colour test.
I can't remember the details, but when I did my thesis on parapsychology (circa 1969) I did reaqd about the supposed relationships between colours and emotional feelings.
I still have the book on it.
Enki
QUOTE(rhymer @ Aug 01, 01:55 PM) *

Hi Enki,

Have you read about the Luscher colour test.
I can't remember the details, but when I did my thesis on parapsychology (circa 1969) I did reaqd about the supposed relationships between colours and emotional feelings.
I still have the book on it.


Thank you for reminding.
I am living (surviving) in a shit country and unfortunately do not have time neither opportunity to read all the papers of the respected gentlemen in details.
If you noted I recommended the experiment to be conducted with black velvet sleeping glasses and the person who should sleep on those Pillows should not know about the conditions of the experiments, but should make multi-optional records of his dreams in great details.
rhymer
Hi Enki,

sorry to hear about your disatisfying situation!

The only reason I have not followed up your offer is that whilst I do recall a few details of my dreams occasionally, I generally find that the more I try to recall them the less I am able to remember!

I often have 'fantasy' dreams which are most enjoyable, even fantastic, but they disappear as soon as I try to 'relive' them.
Enki
QUOTE(rhymer @ Aug 01, 02:30 PM) *

Hi Enki,

sorry to hear about your disatisfying situation!

The only reason I have not followed up your offer is that whilst I do recall a few details of my dreams occasionally, I generally find that the more I try to recall them the less I am able to remember!

I often have 'fantasy' dreams which are most enjoyable, even fantastic, but they disappear as soon as I try to 'relive' them.


Yap, I am in constant fight with stupid reality. But I shall not flag or fail. smile.gif I shall fight in air, on land, in and on waters and in dreams and we shall win.

It is because your reality is much more interesting than your dreams.

I think it depends on your predisposition.

In my dreams I percept that I am in a dream and start to investigate the places I appear. That helps to make interesting geographic discoveries in the dreamsworld.

In dreams people can study physics in the Invisible College of the Royal Society and magic in the Hogword like Harry Potter. wink.gif
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