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Guest
Truth is our innermost being, our pure being and pure consciousness -- SATCHITANAND
lucid_dream
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 13, 08:00 PM) *

Truth is our innermost being, our pure being and pure consciousness -- SATCHITANAND


This is as vacuous as saying God is our innermost being, or alternatively, our innermost being is a mystery. *yawn*
Can you be anymore vague?
Guest
Humanity can absorb only a minute grain of Truth. Unknown are the causes of actions on the earthly plane; only adepts know the essential nature of all occurrences.
Avatar, or the Mahatma energy, the energy of synthesis, is the highest possible light energy... When the Higher Ones call a disciple Mahatma, they affirm a great potentiality.
Guest
A little hematite could help one to balance the exalted realms with the earthly plane of existence. Or an occasional hamburger.
Guest
The Time of Global Shift -- Cosmic Evolution of Humanity

http://www.scottmandelker.com/TGS/Science/cosmevol.html
guest
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 15, 09:56 AM) *

The Time of Global Shift -- Cosmic Evolution of Humanity

http://www.scottmandelker.com/TGS/Science/cosmevol.html


I give the site above 10 out of 10 for drama.
0 out of 10 for reasoned causal effects for 'believed' changes.

In other words, it is advertising jargon to sell something (in my opinion)!
Guest
The changes are taking place -- READ "Planetophysical State of The Earth and Life" by Dr. Alexey N. Dmitriev

http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/global/planetophysical.html

It is much better to be informed and prepared.
Joesus
The subject is relative to the projections of each individual. One might build a shelter to prepare for global destruction hoping to make his own life safe with out giving thought to possibley changing anything to prevent the global changes. Others may see the change as inevitable, possibly evolutionary as were some of the past earth changes and choose to allow the change to come.

I'm not sure what you are projecting by the importance you seem to place on broadcasting the message, but perhaps you could unload what's on your mind and see how many people are like minded and support your opinion of the drama you are laying out for the world.
The information is subject to criticism and preparedness a personal point of view.
There have been a few before you walking the streets with signs prophesying the end of the world.
What exactly are you recommending or doing to prepare yourself?
Plato
Joesus I think question "of God" here in this thread was more about the "conspiracy theory" that the "family" of newspaper men rule the fate of people on the planet. Some order? smile.gif That they guide humanities thinking by what is "preferred print" in reality of the world? To change the way society thinks?

Economic policies and the G8?

In terms of democracies(dialogue), somehow they have been perverted from the original inherencies towards rights and dignities afforded to any human being?

That's my guess anyway of what Enki was referring too? You'll notice the question marks? smile.gif
Joesus
QUOTE(Plato @ Jul 17, 01:31 PM) *

Joesus I think question "of God" here in this thread was more about the "conspiracy theory" that the "family" of newspaper men rule the fate of people on the planet. Some order? smile.gif That they guide humanities thinking by what is "preferred print" in reality of the world? To change the way society thinks?

Economic policies and the G8?

In terms of democracies(dialogue), somehow they have been perverted from the original inherencies towards rights and dignities afforded to any human being?

That's my guess anyway of what Enki was referring too? You'll notice the question marks? smile.gif

Could be. But then I'm not Enki and I probably don't view the topic in the same way. Or maybe I do but you understand us both, differently.
code buttons
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 13, 11:05 PM) *

Or an occasional hamburger.

lol!
Enki
QUOTE(project -2501 @ Jul 12, 01:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 09, 09:19 PM) *


Preachers claim that they spread the words of God.

In true they linguistically Install into human brain self-unzipping Installation package of some specific program designed for very certain purposes by very certain parties for extremely practical means having ABSOLUTLY no relation with salvation of human soul!


I am very interested in what you are saying here, could you possible elaborate? smile.gif


I am sorry for returning to the forum with delay, but I had serious problems with logging on starting from 13 July 2006. Some primitive virus was downloading automatically along with the forum protocols. Moreover, I was very surprised when it turned out that the virus gets downloaded automatically when the forum is being accessed from other computers of the city. I really do wonder that someone is insane enough to try to dare to declare war against such a modest being like me. Whatsoever, they will be eventually somehow punished, I do promise as I do strongly believe that it will be so! laugh.gif

Now about the preachers. The subject itself is a quite complex. I better to go via direct examples. Does such elaboration OK? I can present extremely non-standard approaches to the subject. If elaboration via examples is not OK, then I can suggest structural approach.
Guest
The ongoing solar system changes have to do with solar evolution and activation of higher frequency energies.
When the Earthīs higher energy fields are fully activated, they will no longer support 3D bodies. Weīll have to upgrade our own energy fields accordingly.
Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 17, 08:04 PM) *

The ongoing solar system changes have to do with solar evolution and activation of higher frequency energies.
When the Earthīs higher energy fields are fully activated, they will no longer support 3D bodies. Weīll have to upgrade our own energy fields accordingly.

I see... and so the evolutionary process of the solar system upgrade isn't in sync with humanity and its evolutionary process?
How is the solar system preparing itself so that we can follow its example?
Guest
How is the solar system preparing itself ? Read about solar system changes on the websites suggested above.

One cannot attain the fifth dimensional frequency in a state of stress, fear or hate, for that frequency supports Love and Light of creation. If we wish to free ourselves from the bondage of negative emotions, the first thing we must do is change our breathing.
Breath holds the key to mastering the electronic force of the universe and the power of manifestation in the fifth dimension. One cannot breathe deeply and still channel fear or hate.
For those who conquer this understanding, the Earth will be theirs to inherit; for those who do not, the Earth will be theirs to leave. We can make the choice before the portal of time into this new dimensional frequency closes and makes the choice for us.
guest
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 18, 03:42 PM) *

How is the solar system preparing itself ? Read about solar system changes on the websites suggested above.

One cannot attain the fifth dimensional frequency in a state of stress, fear or hate, for that frequency supports Love and Light of creation. If we wish to free ourselves from the bondage of negative emotions, the first thing we must do is change our breathing.
Breath holds the key to mastering the electronic force of the universe and the power of manifestation in the fifth dimension. One cannot breathe deeply and still channel fear or hate.
For those who conquer this understanding, the Earth will be theirs to inherit; for those who do not, the Earth will be theirs to leave. We can make the choice before the portal of time into this new dimensional frequency closes and makes the choice for us.


The fifth dimensional frequency is a concept from the brain of someone and does not exist!
If it did exist and you could make use of it, you would have realised by now that the Universe is feminine and, therefore, a tad tetchy.

It comes and it goes, and it has been there before.
There, includes the death of all known life-forms, which obligingly restart again in the same manner as they did before.
There is nothing magic about homo sapiens!
We depend on all the viruses to form before we can make a start.
Information is the key and fundamental property that is the precursor to life in any form.

This also is a human concept and more realistic than yours!
Guest
The evolution of man is the evolution of his consciousness, and consciousness cannot evolve unconsciously.
The evolution of man is the evolution of his will, and will cannot evolve involuntarily.
The choice is ours: to remain as we are, or to realize our highest potential.
Transcendence is a vertical inner journey into the higher dimensions of Being, into the higher states of consciousness.

The luminous body of Being (ancient Egypt), the golden body(The Emerald Tablet),the diamond body(Taoism), the body of bliss (Kriya Yoga), the divine body (Old Persia), the seamless robe of light, the body of light -- they all refer to the most exalted stage of human development.
Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 18, 03:42 PM) *

How is the solar system preparing itself ? Read about solar system changes on the websites suggested above.

One cannot attain the fifth dimensional frequency in a state of stress, fear or hate, for that frequency supports Love and Light of creation. If we wish to free ourselves from the bondage of negative emotions, the first thing we must do is change our breathing.
Breath holds the key to mastering the electronic force of the universe and the power of manifestation in the fifth dimension. One cannot breathe deeply and still channel fear or hate.
For those who conquer this understanding, the Earth will be theirs to inherit; for those who do not, the Earth will be theirs to leave. We can make the choice before the portal of time into this new dimensional frequency closes and makes the choice for us.

I was hoping for an intelligent answer from your own experience rather than the continuous quotes, links, and other second hand information.
So Chicken little, do you think trying to move a mountain is really something you can achieve?
Guest
Beware and Behold
The time is running out!
The old cycle is closing up
And a new cycle is coming
There will be a quantum leap
From time into no-time ~
Weīve crawled and pained long enough
Weīve struggled and strived and strayed
Now we are given the last chance
To die and to Live ~
And die we must to our beliefs
And to a wrong sense of ourselves
Life is not what we think
Nor what weīve been taught to believe

Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 20, 04:02 AM) *

Beware and Behold
The time is running out!
The old cycle is closing up
And a new cycle is coming
There will be a quantum leap
From time into no-time ~
Weīve crawled and pained long enough
Weīve struggled and strived and strayed
Now we are given the last chance
To die and to Live ~
And die we must to our beliefs
And to a wrong sense of ourselves
Life is not what we think
Nor what weīve been taught to believe

How do you know this is true and when exactly is this change taking place?
How many are going to make it and how many are not?
Are you sure you are in the right place?
Dont you think there is somewhere else you could be gathering a more receptive bunch to fill your quota, and the need to herd the flock?
maximus242
tongue.gif sounds like more preaching bullshit to me
maximus242
Makes me sleepy zZZzzZZZzzzzZzzZzzzzZZZZz
Trip like I do
QUOTE(maximus242 @ Jul 21, 04:07 PM) *

Makes me sleepy zZZzzZZZzzzzZzzZzzzzZZZZz

ditto....as noted on another thread. Take a long hike, quack!
Sapientia
QUOTE(Besus @ Dec 18, 08:21 AM) *

Hi all, and once again thank you for the wonderful freedom which allows me at times to rant so eloquently, this time to introduce the father.

Long ago there was 0, infinite, the level plateau. 0 exists as nothing, everything in a dormant state, but because it is dormant does not mean it ceases to exist all is still contained within 0, 0 is everything focused to the same point.

0 can only exist for so long before it needs to confirm it's own infinity, and just by questioning 1 is created. 0 looks at 1 and duality is created, when 0 becomes 1 and one becomes 2 what happens then?

Everything exists as it has always existed and always will exist, the same light that’s in me is in you, is in all life, all matter all creation no matter how insignificant.

Each of us has our own sphere of consciousness, we all know this it's our space. We're not human, we're not spirit we're not anything except I AM. All things see life in the beginning and say I AM, I AM Human, I AM Bird, when really we should see that I AM light, the reflection we see is an illusion created for our own benefit.

Nothing is hidden from those who want to see, enlightenment, peace of mind, understanding and infinite love are all things any of us can have simply by having them. We need to stop reacting from the ego and start reacting by seeing all things as equal and using the gifts we have been given to keep that sacred balance.

A flock of birds operate as a single bird, one consciousness, as do dolphins whales and many many more creatures. There is a collective consciousness we have long forgotten and it seems that now once again it is coming to the forefront of our psyches.

We must see that for all of our advances as a race that we are still the most primitive form of life because we are the only form of life that engages in acts of atrocity and justifies them at such a large scale. We think wholesale slaughter of animals, mining of essential resources, destroying continents of forests is okay because there must be progress.

From this train of logic progress will only ultimately lead to death. It is the path of darkness because it is not in balance with the universe in which we live. This path is trying to improve on the Gods perfection by covering his with our ideal of it.

I’m not talking about tree hugging or becoming a communal hippie, I’m talking about people being able to look at the bigger picture and see whats going on. People want to understand God, to the majority of people religion is a tremendously important part of life, so why can’t they see that the life they live is in direct opposition with the beliefs they supposedly follow.

How many people can still claim to love thy neighbor as thyself ?
How many of us covet everything including the neighbors wife?

We’ve created a society where once again sin can be justified by mass opinion.

God to truly be God is neither good nor evil. Good and evil are the names of duality, opposite names of the same emotion. When you hate someone or love someone there is no difference in the emotion your feeling, the difference is in your perception of that person. So even though we perceive these to be different emotions they are both the same. God is good and evil, light and darkness, God is creation free of ego.

In our case as metaphors for God our duality is the separation of left and right, male and female, life and death. They’re all symbols for the same thing, duality the balance of opposites. Our goal should be to re-unite, let the scientists paint and sing let the musicians know the mystery of 3, all people should be well versed in all things, because all things are the same. Our names for them are different.

To see God is to be able to see beyond duality, with the excitement of a child and through the eyes of a child you will see the father.


That's true what you say as a statement and as some preaching, but in real life they are unapplicable. In human relationships, there are invisible walls which separate people and condemn a vast majority of persons to discrimination and so hatred displays itself and becomes a rule between different categories of people. Henceforth, loving the neighbor like ourself sounds a bit ridiculous.
Guest
Last warning.

Edited by LifeMirage.

maximus242
Alright thats one to many times ive seen that link, I was trying to be nice but your clearly advertising, time to report every last damn ad.
Guest
Are you against Freedom of expression. maximus ? Are you afraid of something ?
Why are you reacting so angrily to the suggested article ?
Is it not allowed on this forum to freely express oneself !? Or to suggest some article or a website ?
Or to reiterate oneīs view point, if one considers it relevant or important ?
Why are you so tyranical and repressive ? You should seriously examine your state of consciousness.
Besides, if you donīt like the suggested article or a website, just skip it -- donīt be so paranoid !
LifeMirage
We don't like spammers.....so post carefully.
Enki
QUOTE(maximus242 @ Jul 20, 11:42 AM) *

tongue.gif sounds like more preaching bullshit to me


Quite right!

It looks like that some gentlemen intentionally are overcrowding this topic by garbage.
But that will not help them.
rhymer
I find it hard to believe that god is spamming us, but......(in reality she is).
Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 21, 03:06 PM) *

Are you against Freedom of expression. maximus ? Are you afraid of something ?
Why are you reacting so angrily to the suggested article ?
Is it not allowed on this forum to freely express oneself !? Or to suggest some article or a website ?
Or to reiterate oneīs view point, if one considers it relevant or important ?
Why are you so tyranical and repressive ? You should seriously examine your state of consciousness.
Besides, if you donīt like the suggested article or a website, just skip it -- donīt be so paranoid !

Perhaps its time to surrender to a greater force than your own and I aint talkin about the moderator.
You assume your choice is everyone elses choice, your beliefs everyone elses mandate, your will to bring your personal messages to everyone the will of the almighty. If the last part is true by virtue of everyone being connected to God then take heed of the messages coming to you for God aint no closer to you 'cause you say it is.
Someone suggested to you that your ego was extremely active and your excuses to cover your ass and counter were pure ego. There is enlightenment and then there are enlightened egos. You push your identification with your enlightenment hoping it will make it so. It would be more real if you weren't needing to convince yourself and everyone else
Enki
QUOTE(rhymer @ Jul 23, 08:16 AM) *

I find it hard to believe that god is spamming us, but......(in reality she is).


Haha, God's (or Statan's) revelation dwells in the Spam letters: in the closing texts at the end of each Spam letter. laugh.gif

Do not read those texts, they are encoding you with the Words Matrixes. Boooooooooo. laugh.gif
They put keys in your minds and then use them to controll you. You should beLIEve me. laugh.gif

Verry funny.
Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 21, 03:06 PM) *

Are you against Freedom of expression. maximus ? Are you afraid of something ?
Why are you reacting so angrily to the suggested article ?
Is it not allowed on this forum to freely express oneself !? Or to suggest some article or a website ?
Or to reiterate oneīs view point, if one considers it relevant or important ?
Why are you so tyranical and repressive ? You should seriously examine your state of consciousness.
Besides, if you donīt like the suggested article or a website, just skip it -- donīt be so paranoid !

Seems to me that you are fighting free expression guest. The freedom maximus has to make his choices. Why don't you give him the same courtesy that you demand for yourself. Say what you want and let it go rather than hanging on to it hoping others would cling to it as much as you do.
That way you won't lose yourself in all of this.
Enki
Let me add this link http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=67790
as a good addition to this topic about God. wink.gif
Guest
LifeMirage: "We donīt like spammers..."
In the first place, "We" is a generalization, and all generalizations are empty and meaningless.
As we all know, "Tastes differ", or "One manīs meat is another manīs poison".
In the second place, is Enki a spammer because he suggested a website ?

Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 24, 05:06 PM) *

LifeMirage: "We donīt like spammers..."
In the first place, "We" is a generalization, and all generalizations are empty and meaningless.
As we all know, "Tastes differ", or "One manīs meat is another manīs poison".
In the second place, is Enki a spammer because he suggested a website ?

Victimized again.
lucid_dream
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 24, 09:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 24, 05:06 PM) *

LifeMirage: "We donīt like spammers..."
In the first place, "We" is a generalization, and all generalizations are empty and meaningless.
As we all know, "Tastes differ", or "One manīs meat is another manīs poison".
In the second place, is Enki a spammer because he suggested a website ?

Victimized again.


don't you just love God's sense of humor?

Enki
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 24, 05:06 PM) *

LifeMirage: "We donīt like spammers..."
In the first place, "We" is a generalization, and all generalizations are empty and meaningless.
As we all know, "Tastes differ", or "One manīs meat is another manīs poison".
In the second place, is Enki a spammer because he suggested a website ?


What?! I am just going to sell the truth! laugh.gif Besides I did not indicate the site name yet.
maximus242
QUOTE(lucid_dream @ Jul 24, 11:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 24, 09:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 24, 05:06 PM) *

LifeMirage: "We donīt like spammers..."
In the first place, "We" is a generalization, and all generalizations are empty and meaningless.
As we all know, "Tastes differ", or "One manīs meat is another manīs poison".
In the second place, is Enki a spammer because he suggested a website ?

Victimized again.


don't you just love God's sense of humor?


haha your too much fun LD.
OnlyNow
QUOTE(maximus242 @ Jul 25, 12:50 PM) *

QUOTE(lucid_dream @ Jul 24, 11:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 24, 09:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 24, 05:06 PM) *

LifeMirage: "We donīt like spammers..."
In the first place, "We" is a generalization, and all generalizations are empty and meaningless.
As we all know, "Tastes differ", or "One manīs meat is another manīs poison".
In the second place, is Enki a spammer because he suggested a website ?

Victimized again.


don't you just love God's sense of humor?


haha your too much fun LD.

LOL, at first I thought you said, "You've had too much LSD."
Enki
QUOTE(Rick @ Dec 21, 02:31 PM) *

I agree about the evil of dogmatism. My philosophy, while considering those who went before, contains many original elements. For more on my approach, see

http://teamster.usc.edu/~fixture/Robotics/...ophy/philo.html


Dear Rick,

I have carefully considered your ontology.

Please consider the following criticism of mine:

QUOTE
The physical things include space-time and mass-energy: all of the subjects of physics, all of space, matter, and energy"


And what about virtual things (I mean the things having cybernetic nature). If the virtual things exist (even in determined chaos) then they also should be taken into account. From that point of view, the phrase "physical things" is not correct to be used in this context if not to add "virtual things" as a separate category.

QUOTE
"The mental things include thoughts, emotions, sensations, unconscious mental processes, and consciousness.2 The set of ideas includes form, mathematics, software, and what is now called intellectual property. The ideas in themselves do not exist. In order for us to know an idea it must have either a physical representation (like the text on a page) or a mental construct."


If the "virtual things" do exist, then they can be a source of ideas generation as well, thus they can be an agent modifying the "physical things" as well. From that point of view man can be viewed as an intermediate Tool who (which [I am sorry]) can be used by the "virtual things" to affect "physical things". If you remember I was writing about the "inborn ideas" of Descartes. It looks like that Descartes noted that some ideas get born from within like they are inborn, and wrongly supposed that they are inborn indeed, in true it may turn that the some ideas are "tuned" by the brain. Thus the "virtual things" affect "physical things". And maybe, if the brain contains necessary "keys", then the tuning process can be quite successful. As a scientist you should not discard the possibility of existence of the "virtual things" (I mean the things having cybernetic nature), especially when there is a number of unexplained experimental studies which pose questions which stay unanswered in available to public observance refereed scientific publications.

To make my point a little bit interesting for such a smart Atheist as you are, let me to bring you description of the appearance of Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz (the description was provided by Leibnitz himself and his friend Eckhart). Fingers of legs and hands disproportionally long and thin, the body cold and never perspire, shoulders are wide, while walking he always keeps head a little bit down, at the top of his head he has a swelling of small egg size.
Leibnitz had an interesting project of organizing "scientific" expedition to Egypt, he wanted Ludovic IV to fund that expedition. Later his idea was realized by Napoleon Bonaparte - the small man so well being manipulated by another interesting gentleman Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord, Prince de Benevente, who in his turn was acquainted with Alexander Hamilton (another artillerist) from US as well.

As far as I know, the present religious leader of Iran Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has very long and thin hand fingers as well. That can be extremely well observed while he was embracing in congratulations the president of Iran during his inauguration. wink.gif

I guess Rick, you should not discard possibility of existence of the "virtual things" from your ontology.

Maybe the "good" tuning requires some minor structural modifications of human body. Who knows? laugh.gif
Or when the tuning intensifies the body gets a little bit modified itself. And who knows maybe all people tune in different extent?
Have you read my Enki’s Experiments description related with Red, Blue and Green Pillows described in one of the two mirror threads about magic mushrooms in this forum?
project-2501
QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 17, 06:36 PM) *

QUOTE(project -2501 @ Jul 12, 01:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 09, 09:19 PM) *


Preachers claim that they spread the words of God.

In true they linguistically Install into human brain self-unzipping Installation package of some specific program designed for very certain purposes by very certain parties for extremely practical means having ABSOLUTLY no relation with salvation of human soul!


I am very interested in what you are saying here, could you possible elaborate? smile.gif


I am sorry for returning to the forum with delay, but I had serious problems with logging on starting from 13 July 2006. Some primitive virus was downloading automatically along with the forum protocols. Moreover, I was very surprised when it turned out that the virus gets downloaded automatically when the forum is being accessed from other computers of the city. I really do wonder that someone is insane enough to try to dare to declare war against such a modest being like me. Whatsoever, they will be eventually somehow punished, I do promise as I do strongly believe that it will be so! laugh.gif

Now about the preachers. The subject itself is a quite complex. I better to go via direct examples. Does such elaboration OK? I can present extremely non-standard approaches to the subject. If elaboration via examples is not OK, then I can suggest structural approach.



Tell me all you know smile.gif
Enki
QUOTE(project-2501 @ Jul 30, 01:17 AM) *

Tell me all you know smile.gif


You know boy, you are a canning one, you want to know too much.
project-2501
QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 31, 02:55 AM) *

QUOTE(project-2501 @ Jul 30, 01:17 AM) *

Tell me all you know smile.gif


You know boy, you are a canning one, you want to know too much.


biggrin.gif
code buttons
QUOTE(project-2501 @ Jul 30, 01:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 17, 06:36 PM) *

QUOTE(project -2501 @ Jul 12, 01:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 09, 09:19 PM) *

Preachers claim that they spread the words of God.
In true they linguistically Install into human brain self-unzipping Installation package of some specific program designed for very certain purposes by very certain parties for extremely practical means having ABSOLUTLY no relation with salvation of human soul!

I am very interested in what you are saying here, could you possible elaborate? smile.gif

I am sorry for returning to the forum with delay, but I had serious problems with logging on starting from 13 July 2006. Some primitive virus was downloading automatically along with the forum protocols. Moreover, I was very surprised when it turned out that the virus gets downloaded automatically when the forum is being accessed from other computers of the city. I really do wonder that someone is insane enough to try to dare to declare war against such a modest being like me. Whatsoever, they will be eventually somehow punished, I do promise as I do strongly believe that it will be so! laugh.gif
Now about the preachers. The subject itself is a quite complex. I better to go via direct examples. Does such elaboration OK? I can present extremely non-standard approaches to the subject. If elaboration via examples is not OK, then I can suggest structural approach.

Tell me all you know smile.gif

Forget it project. Enki has teased us all in the past with this concept before, but just that, teased us. It's quite an exciting idea he talks about, let me tell you: fragmentation and de-fragmentation (zipping and un-zipping) of a meaning somehow embedded in a simple language expression or in just a simple word. Maybe he's talking about viral memes. Ir maybe he works on some government secret project. Good luck getting more information out Enki regarding the subject!
Rick
QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 30, 12:59 AM) *
I guess Rick, you should not discard possibility of existence of the "virtual things" from your ontology.
...
Have you read my Enki’s Experiments description related with Red, Blue and Green Pillows described in one of the two mirror threads about magic mushrooms in this forum?

The "virtual things" like numbers, as I explained, don't have existence in the sense that matter and consciousness do, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't consider them. The virtual things are very important in our lives, but they don't rate inclusion in my ontology. It's an anti-idealism ontology that is, of course, anti-Platonic.

As for the colored pillow experiment, I read what you wrote. What were your results? I don't take dreams very seriously.
maximus242
QUOTE(Rick @ Jul 31, 02:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Enki @ Jul 30, 12:59 AM) *
I guess Rick, you should not discard possibility of existence of the "virtual things" from your ontology.
...
Have you read my Enki’s Experiments description related with Red, Blue and Green Pillows described in one of the two mirror threads about magic mushrooms in this forum?

The "virtual things" like numbers, as I explained, don't have existence in the sense that matter and consciousness do, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't consider them. The virtual things are very important in our lives, but they don't rate inclusion in my ontology. It's an anti-idealism ontology that is, of course, anti-Platonic.

As for the colored pillow experiment, I read what you wrote. What were your results? I don't take dreams very seriously.


The virtual thing does have technical substance, if you can think of it, describe it or even give it a name it theirfore has substance, even if only within the thresholds of human perception. Thus everything one can think of exists, prehaps not viewed as existance in the conventional manner, it does never the less exist.
rhymer
Just a slight modification or your wording is required maximus (I think).

The thoughts or concepts (only) exist, not the 'things' themselves.
Lindsay
"Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit!"
Translation, please.
rhymer
QUOTE(Lindsay @ Aug 01, 12:47 AM) *

"Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit!"
Translation, please.



Look at the time! My wife will kill me!
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