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This is one of the funniest clips I've ever seen; it's from "trading spouses" and features a Christian lunatic nutjob having a psychotic episode.

http://www.foundrymusic.com/braincandy/dis...freaks_out.html

What is scary is that people like Marguerite actually exist in the U.S. and maintain such strange beliefs. And what's more, all her friends hold similar warped Christian beliefs. It's like they have their own little insular community devoted to nutty ideas. It's like a community of Christian psychos. I strongly feel that such Christian freaks should be admitted to a nuthouse, jailed, or shipped to Cuba.

I think anyone who watches this video will feel as strongly as I do that Christianity in the U.S. has gotten so warped and extreme that it poses a danger to everyone. We must take action now to prevent the spread of this disease that resulted in the re-election of Bush. If these are the types of people who are Bush supporters, then the U.S. has become a very scary and ignorant place to live indeed.





Unknown
this site has a good discussion and also the video:
http://www.nearlygood.com/video/crazytradingspouse.html

Unknown
Everyone who considers themselves a 'Christian' should watch this video.
Unknown
also see discussion at http://comments.big-boys.com/?id=4228
Unknown
let's see how long this Topic stays open!
http://www.christianwebsite.com/talk/showthread.php?t=18781
Unknown
Christianity is turning into a scary culture that emphasizes ignorance and intolerance. There are some really nutty christians in the middle parts of the U.S. You don't see this sort of nutty christianity in more civilized and educated regions on the east or west coasts of the U.S.
concerned for our mental health
This person is a spammer and just out to bash Christians. I say ban him, lol
code buttons
The best way to fight this form of re-packaged ancient astrology called “Christianity” is with the truth, scientific facts. And even then: good luck. As this form of organized religion have tentacles in probably every imaginable aspect of present-day American society. That’s why I celebrate and admire pioneer scientist like Acharya S, who, knowing the risk at which she has put her self over the years, has dedicated her life to trumpeting the truth about Christianity and exposing these narrow-minded extremist for what they are: social parasites. See her on a live interview here, as she discusses in detail some of her findings, and talks about her work and what let her to this path of enlightenment (to the benefit of all humankind). Also look for Dr. Michiu Kaku’s interview under “Science and Conciusness”
Unknown
nicely put, code buttons
concerned for our mental health
This so-called self-appointed scientist called Acharya S is nothing but a cheap charlatan. Jesus Christ, my lord and savior, really did exist. And he is the true son of God. Who came to earth out of pitty and compassion for all of man-kind; incluiding you, code buttons. I deplore the way in which you treat God-fearing citizens like my self, whose only interest is the benefit of human-kind through the enlightening path of He who walked the earth 2000 years ago.
Unknown
Find Truth @

http://www.covenantpeoplesministry.org/

Leave the pretenders alone,
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 04, 06:00 AM)
Find Truth @

http://www.covenantpeoplesministry.org/

Leave the pretenders alone,

Just out of curiosity, what is your definition of truth?
Rick
Truth: that which is the case. The main religious question is:

"Is it really the case that there exists any supernatural being?"

Secondary questions are:

1. If so, what is the evidence for this?

2. Is the evidence compelling or merely the result of wishful thinking?
Unknown
QUOTE (Rick @ Nov 04, 08:12 AM)
Truth: that which is the case. The main religious question is:

"Is it really the case that there exists any supernatural being?"

Secondary questions are:

1. If so, what is the evidence for this?

2. Is the evidence compelling or merely the result of wishful thinking?

The truth is relative. The proper definition of truth is so far beyond human understanding. Why are you so quick to bash interpretations of the truth, when even scientific truth is uncertain?! Who are you to tell me which is the real truth? Let me remind you that regardless of the laser-beam precision with which science looks at reality, reality is still an elusive concept. Just look at the concept of reality according to quantum physics, the darling of all scientific “truths”: You are all stuck on the “Schrödinger’s cat” paradigm! All your twenty-first century science and all of human progress up to this point is stuck on a sand castle built over a puff of air: Is the cat dead or alive? And who is observing you, the observer?

And what about the mystery of ‘the missing link’ regarding man’s alleged evolution from a form of primate?

Science and Religion are just interpretations of reality! Religion, in fact, was the only science known to the ancient man, before he knew any better. OK, so religious extremist got it all wrong! Their ignorance is the culprit of a lot of things gone wrong throughout history. Yet, Religion has been a vital ingredient in the outcome of history, for good or for bad. Only history itself, when it’s all said and done, will judge the true consequences of religion and religion-driven actions throughout history.

Religion as a dogma is not so bad, when you look at the core intent of all religions: The pursuit of progress, the wellness of mankind, impartial justice. Isn’t this what we all want, anyway?

No one knows what lies at the other side of death. So the real question to you is, if I live my life blissfully pegged to an “ignorant” religious dogma, am I better-off than my scientist neighbor who spent his life worried about pursuing a truth that he could never reach?

Living a life pursuing a better living for one’s self and one’s neighbor is not so bad, in my opinion. And if one does this out of the conviction that one is doing the right thing, I don’t care if the ideal that fuel that fire came out of a book, a believe system or the teachings learned at the local church or synagogue, or musk. My question to you then becomes, will you still hate me if I ‘walk the walk’ instead of ‘talking the talk’?

Rick
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 04, 12:39 PM)
... will you still hate me ...

Persecution complex? The only thing I hate is cruelty.

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... the core intent of all religions: The pursuit of progress, the wellness of mankind, impartial justice. ...


Religion is not a requirement for these things, these noble goals. Religion can get in their way sometimes too: witness the atrocities committed in the name of Allah currently and remember that Christians burned heretics in the middle ages.

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... man’s alleged evolution ...


Recently President Bush committed billions of dollars to creating a vaccine for bird flu which has not yet mutated to a human-communicable form, but it is anticipated to. Bush, a believer, spends money in anticipation of predicted evolution!

Every year new forms of antibiotic-resistent bacteria are reported to have evolved. Sixty years ago, when nylon was first invented, it was used for rope on ships and there was no organism that could rot it. Amazing. Today, nylon rot is common due to evolution. Counterexamples to the assertion of non-evolution abound. It's just not debatable by informed people.
Unknown
If you prefer to accept religious beliefs rather than scientific facts, that is ok, but some people really do seek the truth of things.

We already know many truths, and in areas where there is still confusion we each have to choose what we individually think is acceptable to us, based on our own experience.

Some people are better equipped than others to delve into all the possibilities that may exist for a particular truth, and as you have realised happiness yourself, they realise happiness in their quest for the truth. Just as you don't want to keep delving, they don't want to just accept what cannot be proven.

Both types can live together happily only so long as they are preared to accept that eother methodology is both acceptable and in my opinion desireable.

And don't confuse hatred of a person with dissatisfaction of someones elses ideas!
I try to abide these 'rules' or observations myself so please don't feel that I am 'getting at you personally'.
Unknown
QUOTE (Rick @ Nov 04, 12:45 PM)
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 04, 12:39 PM)
... will you still hate me ...

Persecution complex? The only thing I hate is cruelty.

QUOTE
... the core intent of all religions: The pursuit of progress, the wellness of mankind, impartial justice. ...


Religion is not a requirement for these things, these noble goals. Religion can get in their way sometimes too: witness the atrocities committed in the name of Allah currently and remember that Christians burned heretics in the middle ages.

QUOTE
... man’s alleged evolution ...


Recently President Bush committed billions of dollars to creating a vaccine for bird flu which has not yet mutated to a human-communicable form, but it is anticipated to. Bush, a believer, spends money in anticipation of predicted evolution!

Every year new forms of antibiotic-resistent bacteria are reported to have evolved. Sixty years ago, when nylon was first invented, it was used for rope on ships and there was no organism that could rot it. Amazing. Today, nylon rot is common due to evolution. Counterexamples to the assertion of non-evolution abound. It's just not debatable by informed people.

You still didn't answear my questions!
rhymer
Unknown,

You will not accept any answers because you have a strong belief based on Faith rather than truth!!

No answers will rock your beliefs.
Live with them, and enjoy your life.
Unknown
I am not farsighted. I've seen the answer. I am one of you. I was just playing incognito, so I could 'stir the pot' a little bit. And I already live happily. I love this website! Hee! Hee! Where's Hey Hey?!
Unknown
Hey Hey is out looking for Dan.
Unknown
Ha! Ha! Please don't say that! One M.I.A. is all I can handle!
Friar Brad
QUOTE (Rick @ Nov 04, 08:12 AM)
Truth: that which is the case. The main religious question is:

"Is it really the case that there exists any supernatural being?"

Secondary questions are:

1. If so, what is the evidence for this?

2. Is the evidence compelling or merely the result of wishful thinking?

Romans 1:20-22; "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."

Tit 1:13-15; "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled."
Unknown
bible contradictions

despite the hysterical claims by mindless bible-cheerleaders, the judeo-christian bible is not "god's word" but is riddled with errors and contradictions. there are some 150,000 errors, contradictions and/or variations in the new testament alone, estimated by a number of biblical scholars, including griesbach. the following are some of these countless contradictions, brought to us by, and with comments from, rhianwen.


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on the sabbath day

"remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy." -- exodus 20:8

"one man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." -- romans 14:5

on the permanency of the earth

"... the earth abideth for ever." -- ecclesiastes1:4

"... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." -- 2 peter 3:10

on seeing god

"... i have seen god face to face ..." -- genesis 32:30

"no man hath seen god at any time..."-- john 1:18

on human sacrifice

"... thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy god..." -- leviticus 18:21

[in judges, though, the tale of jephthah, who led the israelites against the ammonites, is being told. being fearful of defeat, this good religious man sought to guarantee victory by getting god firmly on his side. so he prayed to god]

"... if thou shalt without fail deliver the children of ammon into mine hands, then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when i return in peace from the children of ammon, shall surely be the lord's, and i will offer it up for a burnt offering" -- judges 11:30-31

[the terms were acceptable to god -- remember, he is supposed to be omniscient and know the future -- so he gave victory to jephthah, and the first whatsoever that greeted him upon his glorious return was his daughter, as god surelyknew would happen, if god is god. true to his vow, the general made a human sacrifice of his only child to god! -- judges 11:29-34]

on the power of god

"... with god all things are possible." -- matthew 19:26

"...the lord was with judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- judges 1:19

on dealing with personal injury

"...thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. " -- exodus 21:23-25

"...ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." -- matthew 5:39

on circumcision

"this is my covenant, which ye shall keep,between me and you and thy seed after thee; every man child among you shall be circumcised." -- genesis 17:10

"...if ye be circumcised, christ shall profit you nothing." -- galatians 5:2

on incest

"cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother..." -- deuteronomy 27:22

"and if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter...it is a wicked thing...." -- leviticus 20:17

[but what was god's reaction to abraham, who married his sister -- his father's daughter? see genesis 20:11-12.]

"and god said unto abraham, as for sara thy wife...i bless her, and give thee a son also of her..." -- genesis 17:15-16

on trusting god

"a good man obtaineth favour of the lord..." -- proverbs 12:2

now consider the case of job. after commissioning satan to ruin job financially and to slaughter his shepherds and children to win a petty bet with satan. god asked satan: "hast thou considered my servant job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth god, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause." -- job 2:3

on the holy life-style

"go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart..." -- ecclesiastes 9:7

"...they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not..." -- 1 corinthians 7:30

on punishing crime

"the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father..." -- ezekiel 18:20

"i the lord thy god am a jealous god, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation..."-- exodus 20:5

on temptation

"let no man say when he is tempted, i am tempted of god: for god cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." -- james 1:13

"and it came to pass after these things, that god did tempt abraham..." -- genesis 22:1

on family relationships

"honor thy father and thy mother..."-- exodus 20:12

"if any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also,he cannot be my disciple. " -- luke 14:26

on resurrection of the dead

"...he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. " -- job 7:9

"...the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth...." -- john 5:28-29

on the end of the world

"verily i say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom. " -- matthew 16:28

"verily i say unto you, this generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not passaway. " -- luke 21:32-33

"and that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. the night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light." -- romans 13:11-12

"be ye also patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the lord draweth nigh." -- james 5:8

"little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." -- 1 john 2:18

"but the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer." -- 1peter 4:7

[these words were written between 1800 and 1900 years ago and were meant to warn and prepare the first christians for the immediate end of the world. some words are those supposedly straight out of the mouth of the "son of god." the world did not end 1800 or 1900 years ago. all that generation passed away without any of the things foretold coming to pass. no amount of prayer brought it about; nor ever so much patience and belief and sober living. the world went on, as usual, indifferent to the spoutings of yet another batch of doomsday prophets with visions of messiahs dancing in their deluded brains. the world, by surviving, makes the above passages contradictions.]
end of quote

quote taken from: www.truthbeknown.com
Unknown
It amazes me that some people still take the bible seriously and literally. It amazes me that some people can be so gullible and weak-minded. It amazes me, embarrasses me (since these people belong to the same race as me), and humors me (since such people are modern-day buffoons caught up in the fantasies of the ancient past), all at the same time!
Unknown
What's even more amazing is that these people have college degrees, run our goverment, and probably outnumber the rest of us. They wake-up every morning with a tall chin and run their daily routine according to their concious effort to make the world a better place for our children to live in!

We're in a pickle! We're standing at the edge of the abyss and looking down on it. and it's really dark down there.
Unknown
It amazes me that godless heathen wouldn't take the Word of God seriously, especially since it speaks of their demise:

2Ti 3:13; "Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived."

Ah! But at least the talMUDic TV says Jesus isn't real -- better side with God's so-called 'chosen' who still deny Jesus Christ, lol.

2Jo 1:7; "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."

But hey -- if you want to base your beliefs on the errors of others, be my guest.
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 09:18 AM)
What's even more amazing is that these people have college degrees, run our goverment, and probably outnumber the rest of us. They wake-up every morning with a tall chin and run their daily routine according to their concious effort to make the world a better place for our children to live in!

We're in a pickle! We're standing at the edge of the abyss and looking down on it. and it's really dark down there.

You're an idiot if you think there's any Christians in our ZOG government.

Maybe you're just one of these dorks who feels the abortion-loving Mason George Bush is somehow a 'Christian.' In which case -- you've been fooled already and wouldn't even count in God's Kingdom since you're so gullible and refuse to study.

I'm sure you'll be in line to watch The Davinci Code or The Beast since you've already been dupped by Christ-hating jews as it is, lol.
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 09:34 AM)
You're an idiot if you think there's any Christians in our ZOG government.

Maybe you're just one of these dorks who feels the abortion-loving Mason George Bush is somehow a 'Christian.' In which case -- you've been fooled already and wouldn't even count in God's Kingdom since you're so gullible and refuse to study.

I'm sure you'll be in line to watch The Davinci Code or The Beast since you've already been dupped by Christ-hating jews as it is, lol.

I'll be glad to admit that I'm an "iditio" and a "dork" if you prove it to me by way of the information you have which apparently I don't . So, please, by all means: Elighten me!
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 09:28 AM)
It amazes me that godless heathen wouldn't take the Word of God seriously, especially since it speaks of their demise:

As I've said before, not accepting the authority of the bible does not imply godlessness. The bible is utter crap; poorly written, full of inconsistencies and primitive beliefs. But that does not imply I'm godless. I think you need to recognize your faulty logic, and remedy it.

And here you say, "if you want to base your beliefs on the errors of others, be my guest." But who said anything about basing beliefs on what others think? How about basing beliefs on personal experience and reason? Evidently you do not do this since you take the bible to be the word of god, when in truth, it's the word of a bunch of dirty old men who had very primitive conceptions and experiences of god.

I can only conclude that you're a child, since you write like one. Some day, hopefully, you will wake up from your spiritual naivety, and the child will grow up.
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 09:58 AM)

As I've said before, not accepting the authority of the bible does not imply godlessness.  The bible is utter crap; poorly written, full of inconsistencies and primitive beliefs.  But that does not imply I'm godless.  I think you need to recognize your faulty logic, and remedy it.

And here you say, "if you want to base your beliefs on the errors of others, be my guest."  But who said anything about basing beliefs on what others think?  How about basing beliefs on personal experience and reason?  Evidently you do not do this since you take the bible to be the word of god, when in truth, it's the word of a bunch of dirty old men who had very primitive conceptions and experiences of god.

I can only conclude that you're a child, since you write like one.  Some day, hopefully, you will wake up from your spiritual naivety, and the child will grow up.

lol! Only someone who's never read the Bible could say such a thing and considering you matter little to God (who is the Word you're attacking / John 1:1, 14), you matter even less to me.

I'm not the one saying that 85% of Christian Saxon history is wrong -- you are.

btw, I am a child who hasn't 'studied myself retarded' like those who do Satan's bidding by denying the God of Israel. Take heed:

Mat 18:3; "[Jesus says] Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

Wah! Says the godless meant to be taken and destroyed (II Peter 2:1-10).

You have no excuse -- only hatred.
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 10:06 AM)
btw, I am a child

Well tell your mommy for me that I think she's being very irresponsible for letting you on the internet when you don't know how to behave
David Duke
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 10:12 AM)

Well tell your mommy for me that I think she's being very irresponsible for letting you on the internet when you don't know how to behave

2Ti 2:12; "If we deny him, he also will deny us."

The fact that you feel God doesn't exist matters little -- just you thinking something doesn't make it so (as much as I'm sure you're HOPING you're right).

Heathen, how 'outdated' are these:

Do not kill.
Do not covet.
Do not steal.
Do not commit adultery.
Love Thy Neighbor.
Repent.
Be wise as serpents.

???

Ah! Only the wicked say the essence of all our morals is anything but perfect.
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 10:06 AM)
lol! Only someone who's never read the Bible could say such a thing

I've read, studied, and experienced much. The bible is a small part of that. Your rigid adherence to it is symptomatic of closed-mindedness and ignorance. I suggest you broaden your horizons, unless your god preaches ignorance as a virtue.

In your stupidity, you are closer to the beasts and dull animals that you despise than anyone else here in this forum. How does that make you feel?
David Duke
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 09:41 AM)
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 09:34 AM)
You're an idiot if you think there's any Christians in our ZOG government.

Maybe you're just one of these dorks who feels the abortion-loving Mason George Bush is somehow a 'Christian.' In which case -- you've been fooled already and wouldn't even count in God's Kingdom since you're so gullible and refuse to study.

I'm sure you'll be in line to watch The Davinci Code or The Beast since you've already been dupped by Christ-hating jews as it is, lol.

I'll be glad to admit that I'm an "iditio" and a "dork" if you prove it to me by way of the information you have which apparently I don't . So, please, by all means: Elighten me!
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 10:22 AM)
I've read, studied, and experienced much.  The bible is a small part of that.  Your rigid adherence to it is symptomatic of closed-mindedness and ignorance.  I suggest you broaden your horizons, unless your god preaches ignorance as a virtue. 

In your stupidity, you are closer to the beasts and dull animals that you despise than anyone else here in this forum.  How does that make you feel?

I see. I guess you read it so well you missed this part:

Mat 7:13-14; "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

An open-mind is not necessarily a good thing as it also allows for godless activities to be entertained (faggotry, race-mixing, judaism, etc.) -- no thanks. I'll bet your "open mind" has helped make you the godless schmuck you are now.

You might enjoy this:

Psalm 14:1; "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."

That means you.
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 10:32 AM)
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 10:22 AM)
I've read, studied, and experienced much.  The bible is a small part of that.  Your rigid adherence to it is symptomatic of closed-mindedness and ignorance.  I suggest you broaden your horizons, unless your god preaches ignorance as a virtue. 

In your stupidity, you are closer to the beasts and dull animals that you despise than anyone else here in this forum.  How does that make you feel?

I see. I guess you read it so well you missed this part:

Mat 7:13-14; "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

An open-mind is not necessarily a good thing as it also allows for godless activities to be entertained (faggotry, race-mixing, judaism, etc.) -- no thanks. I'll bet your "open mind" has helped make you the godless schmuck you are now.

You might enjoy this:

Psalm 14:1; "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."

That means you.

you are beyond help, bible-thumping, racist bumpkin. You are trapped in the past. Good thing you and your kind are inconsequential.
David Duke
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 10:32 AM)

you are beyond help, bible-thumping, racist bumpkin. You are trapped in the past. Good thing you and your kind are inconsequential.

LOL! Is that your professional opinion or did you learn that by TV 'programming' with the rest of your bleeding-heart outlook? Is it a package deal? So you equate yourself below queers, sodomites, darkies, etc -- I'll bet you're really proud.

Only a fool says there's no God -- until man can miracle a tree or planet into existence, I'll choose God. Man can't create, only pervert.

Sadly, you're such a ZOG mouthpiece you even spout their rhetoric -- redneck, bible-thumper, ignorant, etc.

You really need study. The hater destroys the races through mixing, the one with respect keeps them intact so 'culture' is preserved and respected.

I can't get too mad -- you're a self-correcting flaw in the white race (even though your a hateful jew).

Save it for your gray and souless children, hippie.
Unknown
It is wonderful to behold sweet people totally unprepared to listen to anothers point of view.
It is also tragic that so many people seem to fail to understand that no-one can prove there is a God, and no-one can prove there isn't a God.

Why not just allow others to have their own beliefs and stop throwing insults which have absolutely no effect, except the potential of leading up to inflationary statements - certainly no winner or loser?
Unknown
I find it somewhat amusing that the bible-thumping bigot groundlessly presumes me to be a liberal, godless, and a jew. The attacks have completely missed their intended target. Not surprising, I suppose, given that such people are not known for their intelligence or wisdom, but rather for their ignorance and closed-mindedness.
David Duke
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 11:31 AM)
I find it somewhat amusing that the bible-thumping bigot groundlessly presumes me to be a liberal,  godless, and a jew.  The attacks have completely missed their intended target.  Not surprising, I suppose, given that such people are not known for their intelligence or wisdom, but rather for their ignorance and closed-mindedness.

Uh, huh -- "my god is older, I'm a non-traditional pagan, I'm not gay, etc. etc."

If it's not of Jesus -- it does NOT matter, period:

Joh 14:6; "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Heathens justify themselves over and over...

By their 'fruits' you know them -- you seek the destruction of the races through mixing and hate those who have pride in racial accomplishments -- that makes you the ignorant one.

Not to mention, it's you who are attacking Christians in a thread about Christianity not the other way around. Go cry about 'equal rights' when you're intolerant of views your disagree with (racism, anti-homosexual, anti-witch). That makes you the one who 'picks and chooses' what you feel is morality.

Equal is equal -- I won't kid you and tell you the jews seek your destruction nor that Negroes are racist. I choose to live outside the bubble of the media, lol.

Cease with the smears, jewboy -- if I "thumped" you you'd still be in the dirt.
Unknown
bible boy: Aren't you missing sunday school? The wealth of knowlegde you're missing out on!
Unknown
idiot: The Sabbath is and has always been the seventh day, not the first, lol.
Unknown
Thank you for the clarification, bible boy. Now I can rest my case
Unknown
QUOTE (David Duke @ Nov 06, 11:40 AM)
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 11:31 AM)
given that such people are not known for their intelligence or wisdom, but rather for their ignorance and closed-mindedness.


If it's not of Jesus -- it does NOT matter, period:

Need I say more?

You know, Buddha preceded Jesus by at least a hundred years, so for all we know, Jesus may have stolen some ideas from Buddha.

For all we know, Jesus may even be a myth. In any event, Jesus is hardly relevant today. Maybe if you lived in the Dark Ages, but we are so far beyond that. To have faith in Jesus today is equivalent to having faith in Zeus or other superstitions. If you need to have faith in superstitions (such as afterlife and heaven) to justify life, and to make meaning of your life, then I think that says a lot about the quality of your life.

Someday you may wake up. Pray to your god that you do.

Unknown
QUOTE (David Duke @ Nov 06, 11:40 AM)
By their 'fruits' you know them

And what are your fruits? If anything, you come across as a rotten apple. I believe you are devoid of accomplishments, which is why you have low self-esteem and feel the need to attack others for beliefs which differ from yours. And you make a very weak case indeed for winning anyone over to your racist, bible-thumping beliefs. No doubt a loser in real life, you revel in the fantasy that you belong to a superior race; how comically pathetic! You are the epitome of the modern-day buffoon. So by all means, humor us all some more with your buffoonery.
Unknown
btw, you may enjoy this site:

http://www.jesusdressup.com/

Unknown
" Each of us is here for a brief sojourn; for what purpose he knows not, though he sometimes thinks he senses it. "
-Einstein
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 02:16 PM)



For all we know, Jesus may even be a myth. In any event, Jesus is hardly relevant today. Maybe if you lived in the Dark Ages, but we are so far beyond that.
Someday you may wake up. Pray to your god that you do.

I don't know about Jesus being a myth. But what I do know is that Jesus was an invention. A forgery by the dictionary definition of forgery.
A group of people actually sat down around a table and invented this character Jesus Christ. It was a conspiracy by a few to keep the ignorant that way. What they didn't count on was that there would still be deluded morons eating from their servings 2000 years later.
And what I didn't cound on was that these morons are the ones making all the relevant decisions concerning the future of humankind.
Unknown
QUOTE (Unknown @ Nov 06, 01:00 AM)
bible contradictions

despite the hysterical claims by mindless bible-cheerleaders, the judeo-christian bible is not "god's word" but is riddled with errors and contradictions. there are some 150,000 errors, contradictions and/or variations in the new testament alone, estimated by a number of biblical scholars, including griesbach. the following are some of these countless contradictions, brought to us by, and with comments from, rhianwen.


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on the sabbath day

"remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy." -- exodus 20:8

"one man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." -- romans 14:5

on the permanency of the earth

"... the earth abideth for ever." -- ecclesiastes1:4

"... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." -- 2 peter 3:10

on seeing god

"... i have seen god face to face ..." -- genesis 32:30

"no man hath seen god at any time..."-- john 1:18

on human sacrifice

"... thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy god..." -- leviticus 18:21

[in judges, though, the tale of jephthah, who led the israelites against the ammonites, is being told. being fearful of defeat, this good religious man sought to guarantee victory by getting god firmly on his side. so he prayed to god]

"... if thou shalt without fail deliver the children of ammon into mine hands, then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when i return in peace from the children of ammon, shall surely be the lord's, and i will offer it up for a burnt offering" -- judges 11:30-31

[the terms were acceptable to god -- remember, he is supposed to be omniscient and know the future -- so he gave victory to jephthah, and the first whatsoever that greeted him upon his glorious return was his daughter, as god surelyknew would happen, if god is god. true to his vow, the general made a human sacrifice of his only child to god! -- judges 11:29-34]

on the power of god

"... with god all things are possible." -- matthew 19:26

"...the lord was with judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- judges 1:19

on dealing with personal injury

"...thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. " -- exodus 21:23-25

"...ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." -- matthew 5:39

on circumcision

"this is my covenant, which ye shall keep,between me and you and thy seed after thee; every man child among you shall be circumcised." -- genesis 17:10

"...if ye be circumcised, christ shall profit you nothing." -- galatians 5:2

on incest

"cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother..." -- deuteronomy 27:22

"and if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter...it is a wicked thing...." -- leviticus 20:17

[but what was god's reaction to abraham, who married his sister -- his father's daughter? see genesis 20:11-12.]

"and god said unto abraham, as for sara thy wife...i bless her, and give thee a son also of her..." -- genesis 17:15-16

on trusting god

"a good man obtaineth favour of the lord..." -- proverbs 12:2

now consider the case of job. after commissioning satan to ruin job financially and to slaughter his shepherds and children to win a petty bet with satan. god asked satan: "hast thou considered my servant job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth god, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause." -- job 2:3

on the holy life-style

"go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart..." -- ecclesiastes 9:7

"...they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not..." -- 1 corinthians 7:30

on punishing crime

"the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father..." -- ezekiel 18:20

"i the lord thy god am a jealous god, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation..."-- exodus 20:5

on temptation

"let no man say when he is tempted, i am tempted of god: for god cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." -- james 1:13

"and it came to pass after these things, that god did tempt abraham..." -- genesis 22:1

on family relationships

"honor thy father and thy mother..."-- exodus 20:12

"if any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also,he cannot be my disciple. " -- luke 14:26

on resurrection of the dead

"...he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. " -- job 7:9

"...the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth...." -- john 5:28-29

on the end of the world

"verily i say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom. " -- matthew 16:28

"verily i say unto you, this generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not passaway. " -- luke 21:32-33

"and that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. the night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light." -- romans 13:11-12

"be ye also patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the lord draweth nigh." -- james 5:8

"little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." -- 1 john 2:18

"but the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer." -- 1peter 4:7

[these words were written between 1800 and 1900 years ago and were meant to warn and prepare the first christians for the immediate end of the world. some words are those supposedly straight out of the mouth of the "son of god." the world did not end 1800 or 1900 years ago. all that generation passed away without any of the things foretold coming to pass. no amount of prayer brought it about; nor ever so much patience and belief and sober living. the world went on, as usual, indifferent to the spoutings of yet another batch of doomsday prophets with visions of messiahs dancing in their deluded brains. the world, by surviving, makes the above passages contradictions.]
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