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maximus242
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Buddhism's philosophies are strictly logical, as it encourages careful and logical reasoning over blind faith. Its epistemology (a strict phenomenalism) applies philosophical doubt in quantities that would intoxicate even the most devout follower of Descartes....
...The problem was, and continues to be, a lack of circumspection in reading and research. What has followed in the West is an unwarranted skepticism of eastern thought, whose philosophical integrity equals and in many cases surpasses any philosophy found in the west....


.. HA! I find it most difficult to believe that any person or thinking has shown a strict adherance to logic, much less a religion, I would be suprised if you could even define logic because lab studies in a split of functioning brain lobes showed that the logical side would come up with lies to explain its own pseudo logic. Although I must agree that buddhists are against blindly following, I do wonder why they all have to shave their heads, I mean if they were truely philosophical would they not be open to their members having hair?
nornerator
Buddhism can be taken two different ways.

Most people in the world that "practice buddhism" treat it as a religion, and in many places around the world buddhism is about as dogmatic as any other religion. Buddhist philosophy on the other hand is not religion, and is certainly atheistic. Buddhist philosophy is essentially "Quiet your mind, pay attention to what is actually going on in your head and around you and base your opinions of reality on what is actually happening and not the construct that you have already created."

On science and religion.

Science certainly destroys religion. Science looks at the world, records what is happening, and then attempts to find out how it is happening. A person who looks for evidence to base their beliefs about the world is not going to buy into a religion, and so the exponentially expanding scientific knowledge about the world is either A) Going to marginalize religion into a small fraction of the undereducated class, or cool.gif If science does not marginalize religion, the scientifically knowledgeable will become the elite rulers of the religious because our knowledge of science is reaching a turning point where unprecedented power of technology, biotech, and nanotech are becoming available. Those who understand these technologies will rule the world.

Religion is just a lazy mindset, or wishful thinking. There is nothing to be gained from religion that couldn't be gained from an ounce of introspection.

I mean, the idea of Jesus, Mohammad, or some other person coming to earth, sent by an invisible sky man, to teach us about the world has exactly as much evidence as say, Believing that the earth is inside of a giant space donkey, who telepathically communicates with the fishes of the sea, and that these fish are actually the true rulers of humanity and they want us to worship them.
Lindsay
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Religion is just a lazy mindset, or wishful thinking. There is nothing to be gained from religion that couldn't be gained from an ounce of introspection.

I mean, the idea of Jesus, Mohammad, or some other person coming to earth, sent by an invisible sky man, to teach us about the world has exactly as much evidence as say, Believing that the earth is inside of a giant space donkey, who telepathically communicates with the fishes of the sea, and that these fish are actually the true rulers of humanity and they want us to worship them.
So you think that, "Religion is just a lazy mindset, or wishful thinking."; that God is, "an invisible sky man."

Nornerator, if this is what you sincerely feel that religion is all about I certainly have no difficulty understanding why you reject it. If I were you, I would too.

BTW, I do not judge all science as evil, psychopathic, soul-less and cruel just because some scientists--for example, those who served the Nazi regime--have been, and some still are evil, etc. Science is a tool which can be used for good or evil. So is religion.

Was Martin Luther King, among countless other faithful and loving people like him, guilty of having a "lazy mindset" when he went up against racism? Was his dream of justice for all human beings just so much "wishful thinking"?

Sure some evil and dumb religionists used to own slaves, but who freed the slaves, atheists? No. It seems to me that the anti-slavery movement was led by healthy-minded religionists like Wilberforce, Wesley, Lincoln and others. I realize that there are a few moral, ethical and good atheists, but how many schools, universities, hospitals and the like have been founded by atheists? Name a few.

When loving atheists get together and do a better job than loving religionists, I will join them. BTW, I belong to a--let's call it a spiritually based fellowship, Pathways Church (part of the United Church of Canada), which welcomes loving agnostics and atheists.
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