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mikal

All events and objects that we encounter in real life-buildings, people, cities, cars, places-in fact, everything we see, hold, touch, smell, taste and hear-come into existence as visions and feelings in our brains.

We are taught to think that these images and feelings are caused by a solid world outside of our brains, where material things exist. However, in reality we never see real existing materials and we never touch real materials. In other words, every material entity which we believe exists in our lives, is, in fact, only a vision which is created in our brains.

This is not a philosophical speculation. It is an empirical fact that has been proven by modern science. Today, any scientist who is a specialist in medicine, biology, neurology or any other field related to brain research would say, when asked how and where we see the world, that we see the whole world in the vision center located in our brains.

This fact has been scientifically proven in the twentieth century, and although it may seem surprising, it necessarily implies answers to two questions; "If our lives are visions created in our brains, then who is it that creates these visions? And who is it that sees these visions in our brains without having eyes and enjoys them, gets excited and happy?"

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Rick
That physical objects "come into existence ... in our brains" does not mean that they do not also have independent objective existence.

The above URL is incorrect. The right one is http://www.secretbeyondmatter.com/.
rhymer
mikal,

your words are in a sense correct, but also give the impression that what we model mentally, internally, as symbolic of the 'external world' is ALL that exists!

Whilst our models may differ considerably from the truth of the external world, the external world does exist.

And, our models are pretty good in many respects - I don't walk into too many things.
Rick
Rhymer, if you read the linked site, you will see that it's an advertisement for a particular monotheism.

The trouble with invoking "god" in the solution to a philosophical problem is that it short-circuits all critical thinking, just as "god" hypotheses don't have effective roles in scientific problems.
rhymer
I'm afraid I am not prepared to read any further than this at the web site indicated, and I quote,

"The things that will be explained in due course will show you that the people, computers and the publishers in every stages of the production of this book are only visions that appear in your brain, and you will never know whether or not they exist outside of your brain."

I can accept that my perception of external 'things' are only symbolic to a greater or lesser extent of reality, and that they occur within my brain, but to claim that 'something may not exist at all' is rubbish (phantoms, ghosts, hallucinations etc., excluded).

The experience of walking into a wall myself and watching another 50 people do the same and end up with bruises is pretty conclusive for me that there is an immovable object at a certain place in space in front of us all (which we happen to call a wall).

Walls (and books) do exist outside of our brains and anyone who claims otherwise is deluded. They may not actually be as we perceive them but they exist, nonetheless.
Rick
Repeatability is indeed one of the hallmarks of science.
Dan
QUOTE (rhymer @ Mar 08, 03:45 PM)
... the people, computers and the publishers in every stages of the production of this book are only visions that appear in your brain, and you will never know whether or not they exist outside of your brain.

as this quote stands, the word 'brain' ought to be replaced with 'mind' as this religion implies that matter is a mental image and the brain is matter
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